To me I think on the video is for the public, remember we bet againt pub.
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Let me clarify this once again.. When I do the video.. it is without the benefit of my complete research and simulator projections. If you watch the one we filmed today, I state it time and time again to make certain that there is no confusion and that these are only things to look forward too then and now.
The basic thing to remember is that what I print here is the final say. These plays count and are well researched and come with reinforcing systems, angles, and game situations (fundamentals). These are the foundational releases for the entire methodology. Ok? good , not they we go that out of the way.
Also, I started a College Hoops thread tonight. Here is the link;
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Nice job here man. That Packers pick was too easy and with that crazy trend you posted about them when they score 28 or more, it is hard to bet against them.
Only thing though when you were explainging to that guy why you took the Bengals over the Steelers, there was no "first matchup" because they hadn't played each other this year up until yesterday. It looked like you were talking about Baltimore, with the revenge and all.
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why would it make any difference(timing) when your sim projection came out, ???? anytime after last weeks games, when you input the last piece of data......should have given you the play.......what would change between your video ...and the play on the packers ????
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Why is that waffling around? I've liked a team before and felt as if I would of played them. Then as the week goes on and I do more research I go entirely the opposite way. He posted his play here before the game so I don't consider that waffling.
I wasn't even online to see it since I was at a convention in A.C. but earlier in the day I was considering getting Minn + the points. Before the end of the night without following anyone's picks since I wasn't online I decided to go the other way and went GB ATS. So if I can change my mind the same exact day I don't see why he can't post a video one day and then a couple days later decide to go a different route.
I normally make my decisions shortly before game time to make sure I covered everything. Anything before that is just speculation.
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Thanks for the winner!NCAA Basketball
'08-'09 (12-8) 60%
'09-'10 (63-46) 58%
WNBA
'10 (45-29) 64%
CFL
'10 (20-18)
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What do you have against John Ryan anyhow?? You've been trolling the sh#t outta this thread for a solid week now. He gave us Sea this week. He gave us Dal this week. He gave us GB last night. And oh btw none of them were even close. Had no worries in any of those games from the get go. In fact his only loser was Cin & they very easily could have & probably should have covered. W/ the exception of last week he's been solid as fukk yet you continue to troll the sh#t outta him?? What exactly do you want from the man??
If you can do any better than him @ giving out winners I'm all ears??Comment -
Looking at the early lines this week, I can't believe the NYJ are only -4.5, ATL is only -6, and BUFF is +1.5. Really like those three teams this week, especially NYJ. Tebow is no threat to pass and as good as the Jets corners are, they can put 9 in the box to stop Tebow and the run game.Comment -
It's a broken record every week. People just auto fade Tebow & go all in on the Eagles
Give me everything against Tebow & the rest of it on the Eagles....
Give me everything against Tebow & the rest of it on the Eagles....
Give me everything against Tebow & the rest of it on the Eagles....
At some point in time people are just going to have to accept that Tebow may not be conventional but he wins. And the Eagles, well they're just hopeless. But I'm sure it will be the same this week??
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I don't run the sim until Wednesday, we record the NFL video Mondays. Peter and I do state that these are just opening discussions and talking about how the betting flows will move throughout the week. Again, what I put in print HERE is what the plays are. I painfully state that this week in the NFL video. I hope this clarifies your concern.Comment -
Actually, Denver barely beat Oakland and KC, who rank #25 and 26 in rushing yards allowed per game, respectively. Not to mention, if you caught the Jets postgame press conference you could see how utterly disappointed Rex Ryan was in his teams performance. I expect the Jets to come out very focused against Denver as a result.It's a broken record every week. People just auto fade Tebow & go all in on the Eagles
Give me everything against Tebow & the rest of it on the Eagles....
Give me everything against Tebow & the rest of it on the Eagles....
Give me everything against Tebow & the rest of it on the Eagles....
At some point in time people are just going to have to accept that Tebow may not be conventional but he wins. And the Eagles, well they're just hopeless. But I'm sure it will be the same this week??
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what about this gem : you stated in a earlier post( opinion) that turnovers are a deathknell in the redzone.....sounds good, makes sense, right ...well here is a( study) that refutes your opinion, this is all about credibility, ......it would be" healthy "if we had some, post an accurate record..with spreadsheet.to back it up.....respect comes with credibility....do not see a problem asking for this
"First, we describe Carter and Machol's [study on NFL football done in 1971) use of their results to evaluate the football wisdom that says turnovers (losing the ball to your opponent by making a gross error) near one's own goal are more costly than turnovers elsewhere on the field. A turnover at one's own 15-yard-line (85 yards from the target goal) changes a team from having expected value -0.64 to -4.57 (the opponent's value after taking possession is 4:57), a drop of 3.93 expected points. The same turnover at the opponent's 45-yard-line changes the expected points from 2:39 to -1:54, a drop of 3.93 expected points! Turnovers are worth about 4 points and this value doesn't seem to depend on the location at which the turnover occurs.”
dude says he worked on Wall Street, spot on, as a member of "occupy wall street"Last edited by JR007; 11-15-11, 01:19 PM.Comment -
Then go back & do it yourself....all documented plays are in this thread.....I have been tailing & am UP a pretty solid number. he's not hiding anything all his plays are here. You do the math & report back. You're so interested in an accurate record, all I can tell you is he is considerably over .500......If not you can keep trolling & refute about red zone opinions & I'll keep tailing & cashing.Comment -
I hope you're joking?? Denver didn't "barely" beat Oakland?? They won 38-24 while getting a TD
They also bet KC 17-7 as a 3 point dog. I guess your idea of barely & my idea of barely is completely different??
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always the same theme on these websites, people come in touting their skills as cappers, but when asked for proof, on their so-called
expertise, the proof never comes, with the exception of a few in here, .....one post,........I quoted) did not know which side he was on
c'mon.....if his record is the truth, what is the big deal ????? in asking for itLast edited by JR007; 11-15-11, 01:27 PM.Comment -
The proof is there. It's in this thread. What part of that do u not understand?? I challenge you to go through this thread & add UP the documented plays. if it's over .500 you leave & stop trolling ok?? If it's not you pm me your address & I will send you 10 thousand??
Is that sufficient enough for you??
WTF do you want from the guy?? He's giving you winners for 10 strait weeks??
the proof is right here in this tread troll!!!Comment -
college and pros ???think he combined this record?, I will try to decipher the winners from the losers in both threads, might take me a little time ,I think you will win that bet...,over(.500) how about over .600 ???( ie 60%) .as he stated...........I will let you know, then you can send me the ten grand
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I don't know about college. This is the Pro thread & all I follow. The 5* 10* & 20* documented plays are 100% guaranteed over .500 I know because i have been tailing. I don't know about .600 though cause I don't keep track of %'s I keep track of my bankroll. John say's it's over .600 I doubt he's lying.... if he's even keeping an accurate record. I can't speak for college.Comment -
I misread the Oakland score, but they only beat kc 17-10, and kc is weak. I just think the jets matchup well against Denver and think Ryan feels embarrassed so he'll have his guys ready to play this week.Comment -
I can respect your opinion on liking the Jets in this game but I don't care how bad KC is they were favored by 3 over Den & Den beat them outright by 10 on the road I might add.....that is not "barely"
My point is people are simply auto fading Tebow every week yet Tebow continues to find a way to get the job done. At least you have made valid points for actually liking things the Jets have going for them rather than simply hating on & auto fading Tebow.
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Yeah, for me it has nothing to do with auto-fading tebow. I actually root for him. I just don't see how he'll be able to hurt the jets passing the ball, so revis and cromartie can play m2m. And the jets can load the box with 8-9 guys to stop the run. I think this is a very bad matchup for Denver, and the Rex Ryan thing only makes it worse for Denver imo. We shall see...Last edited by jas19illini; 11-15-11, 03:27 PM.Comment -
There too much talk about Tebow winning games. Miami gave one away, Chiefs should've gone 0-3 on their homestand and I agree with upscope - Denver did barely win against the Raiders, the final score does not reflect the game flow accurately enough. On the flip side, Tebow's passing game vs Jets corners is highly irrelevant. He threw the 8 times last Sunday and I don't expect him to test Jets there. Loading the box is dangerous however, this figures to be a low scoring game and Broncos are (rarely but) trying to go for a big play when you bring safeties to the box. I don't like the Jets here at all, but I cannot trust Broncos running here to cover/win. No bet here.Comment -
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gone thru half the posts on the NFL, from the most recent back, so I have him at( 9 wins 7 loses 5 *) (0-1 20 *) (and 0-1 on 10 *)
one 10 * he was talking about posting, but never did officially, so I left it out of the win/lose column, back later with final numbersLast edited by JR007; 11-16-11, 09:00 AM.Comment -
final tally on the 5 stars 23-19, (ok ats
), looks like he had the wins right, but a bit off on the loses , but the juice with the loses, negates even this modest record.......may be off one or two but is what I have........just so you know, boys
1-1 on the 10*, and 1-1 on the 20*, ,
this ain't close to 60%Last edited by JR007; 11-16-11, 11:02 AM.Comment -
Miami has to be a huge play this week IMOComment -
final tally on the 5 stars 23-19, (ok ats), looks like he had the wins right, but a bit off on the loses , but the juice with the loses, negates even this modest record.......may be off one or two but is what I have........just so you know, boys
1-1 on the 10*, and 1-1 on the 20*, ,
this ain't close to 60%
I didn't think his results were accurate but was too lazy to go through the entire thread and check, thanx for verifying my point I made earlier. People just assume every "professional" handicapper has integrity, unfortunately many don't. I just wish he would update his totals after every week in a clear and efficient manner. Regardless GL to all.Comment -
Still wondering how he said he went 3-1 in college football last week when his plays were Penn State which was a push... the over in penn state game which was a loss and the under in the oregon stanford game which was a loss
....I understand this is a thread but dont get coming in on Sunday saying by the way I went 3-1 in college yesterday???
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if you guys don't like his picks for games or his posts just stay out his threads. I like John. Now just leave the guy alone it eats me up every time I come on here to read what he says and I have to skim through so many of your unwanted posts.Comment -
JR0077 I'm Not defending John ryan at all an could care less I usually make my own picks but u said I could be off a game or 2 which makes a huge difference an no one has counted his optional Money line plays an not to mention week 1 he hit a parlay. I questioned him to I'm just sayingComment -
"maybe off one or two" - you might be one or two bottles short of a six pack, and when you make a sweeping statement with no evidence to back it up and then make a hugely glaring error as such to state "1-1 on the 10*" when it is abundantly clear to anyone who reads this thread that John has made THREE 10* plays and is sporting a 2-1 winning record, you do not do yourself any favors. That is a huge statistical error to simply "miss" 33% of the data... no faith in your tally of John's record.. go back, try harder.final tally on the 5 stars 23-19, (ok ats), looks like he had the wins right, but a bit off on the loses , but the juice with the loses, negates even this modest record.......may be off one or two but is what I have........just so you know, boys 1-1 on the 10*, and 1-1 on the 20*, , this ain't close to 60%Comment -
Still wondering how he said he went 3-1 in college football last week when his plays were Penn State which was a push... the over in penn state game which was a loss and the under in the oregon stanford game which was a loss....I understand this is a thread but dont get coming in on Sunday saying by the way I went 3-1 in college yesterday???
John acknowledged a mistake and apologised.Comment -
Did the title of this thread become "attack john's credibility"? Most of us know John provides his picks with us for no other reason than to generously share his knowledge. If you don't like the way he does it, than don't bother reading the thread.
Now back to NFL....Comment
