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  • Sandwich
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-21-12
    • 117

    #491
    Thanks for the vote of confidence Wallco.... (next time you can create the schedule). As I mentioned before, someone should double check it to ensure the abundance of plays are accurate. It took quite a bit of time to gather all the system plays and there is always room for error.
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    • J.M. Disciple
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-16-10
      • 5154

      #492
      Wallco, not trying to start anything new, but are you really advising people to handle things via PM after all the shit you gave people on the thread? There are probably 20-30 post of yours that could be deleted because it only criticizes others. If you have not noticed, a lot of the clutter in this thread is criticizing others or talking trash. As soon as you say some thing it seems like 5 others jump on board. I hate to single you out on this, but only including your name because of your recent post. I do direct this to all others as well who try to jump in and talk trash to someone who was not even referring to them. Let people handle their own beef. I doubt anyone in this thread needs someone else to wipe their noses. I do agree with you these things would be handled better via PM, I just find it ironic that you would be the one addressing it. All is well, onto tomorrow.

      @sandwhich
      You did an excellent job on the spread sheet and thankful you posted it. Don't let anyone discourage you from trying to help others out. Yes, a couple mistakes, but not a big deal. If people genuinely cared, then they would double check themselves.
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      • Wallco99
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-01-11
        • 7261

        #493
        Originally posted by Sandwich
        Thanks for the vote of confidence Wallco.... (next time you can create the schedule). As I mentioned before, someone should double check it to ensure the abundance of plays are accurate. It took quite a bit of time to gather all the system plays and there is always room for error.
        I wasn't taking a shot at you at all, I appreciate you putting it up. But I also remember you asking people to double check it for accuracy, I was just asking if anyone has done that, especially since everybody is being directed to that post as our official play post. I remember you stating you didn't include these series that turn into v1 after starting in another version, was just wondering if anyone did the double check to include them.
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        • thelimit0310
          SBR MVP
          • 01-24-11
          • 1233

          #494
          Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
          Well, maybe the spread sheet needs to be updated in post #107 then.
          I stated I believe the exact same day the spreadsheet was posted that Miami today would not be a play.

          I agree with you Wallco, every year the JM NBA thread turns into a clusterfuck, we need some changes.

          Sandwich I appreciate the spreadsheet, like JMD said don't let others get you down. You're a good guy and you do what you can to contribute, can't ask for anything more than that.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #495
            Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
            Wallco, not trying to start anything new, but are you really advising people to handle things via PM after all the shit you gave people on the thread? There are probably 20-30 post of yours that could be deleted because it only criticizes others. If you have not noticed, a lot of the clutter in this thread is criticizing others or talking trash. As soon as you say some thing it seems like 5 others jump on board. I hate to single you out on this, but only including your name because of your recent post. I do direct this to all others as well who try to jump in and talk trash to someone who was not even referring to them. Let people handle their own beef. I doubt anyone in this thread needs someone else to wipe their noses. I do agree with you these things would be handled better via PM, I just find it ironic that you would be the one addressing it. All is well, onto tomorrow.

            @sandwhich
            You did an excellent job on the spread sheet and thankful you posted it. Don't let anyone discourage you from trying to help others out. Yes, a couple mistakes, but not a big deal. If people genuinely cared, then they would double check themselves.
            You spelled sandwich wrong!
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            • thelimit0310
              SBR MVP
              • 01-24-11
              • 1233

              #496
              The plays aren't that hard to double check. Look at the spreadsheet and see if it correlates to the official schedule. I already went through a few months and it all looked good. Though, before I even post my plays I make sure to check the team in questions schedule - something all the play posters here should do.
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              • Wallco99
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-01-11
                • 7261

                #497
                Originally posted by thelimit0310
                The plays aren't that hard to double check. Look at the spreadsheet and see if it correlates to the official schedule. I already went through a few months and it all looked good. Though, before I even post my plays I make sure to check the team in questions schedule - something all the play posters here should do.
                Yes, I totally agree with you. The problem is, people are not doing this BEFORE they come in here and start asking, "Shouldn't this be a play", or "Shouldn't that be a play"? A lot can be avoided if they would just double check before posting. Then if still unsure, ask via PM vs. posting the question. This will stop the barage of replies of whether or not the play in question is actually a play or not, which after 20 replies to the original post, the question still won't be answered. This is what I was trying to say in my last post, but JMD wished to twist it around and use it as an excuse to take a shot at me, so be it. People are OK to criticize on here if criticism is warranted, however, every small detail and missed plays that weren't missed plays at all, are not grounds in my opinion.
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                • MARCUS
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 06-19-09
                  • 358

                  #498
                  11/11 Atlanta [A]
                  LA Clippers
                  11/11 Miami [A]
                  Memphis
                  ...the email from the good dr. morrison..??
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                  • NZT-48
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-29-11
                    • 522

                    #499
                    soo like wow Miami was or was not a play?.....JM emails said they were but this thread has blown up b/c of it so didnt know what was up officially


                    Originally posted by thelimit0310
                    The plays aren't that hard to double check. Look at the spreadsheet and see if it correlates to the official schedule. I already went through a few months and it all looked good. Though, before I even post my plays I make sure to check the team in questions schedule - something all the play posters here should do.
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                    • J.M. Disciple
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-16-10
                      • 5154

                      #500
                      It was MIA's 2nd game of their road trip, there for not a play.

                      ATL becomes a B bet
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                      • Wallco99
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-01-11
                        • 7261

                        #501
                        Originally posted by MARCUS
                        11/11 Atlanta [A]
                        LA Clippers
                        11/11 Miami [A]
                        Memphis
                        ...the email from the good dr. morrison..??
                        As I stated earlier, JM spends so much time bullshitting that he doesn't even remember his own rules. For the past few seasons, these threads in here for JM NBA and JM MLB have been much more accurate and thorough than Sir Morrison himself.
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                        • Wallco99
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-01-11
                          • 7261

                          #502
                          Originally posted by NZT-48
                          soo like wow Miami was or was not a play?.....JM emails said they were but this thread has blown up b/c of it so didnt know what was up officially
                          Don't ask stupid questions if you supposedly "block" everyone who have already answered these questions several times.
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #503
                            Wallco NBA Chase 110
                            2012-13 System to date: 4-0 (fin. series)
                            System profit/loss: +4.00 units (fin. series)
                            Current open series: 0


                            v1 Plays
                            (A) 4-0
                            (B) 0-0

                            (C) 0-0
                            (D) 0-0


                            There are no system plays for (11/12/12)


                            We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. System rules and backtest can be found in post #226.
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                            • Nino7
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-11-09
                              • 798

                              #504
                              is it possible to receive an email whenever something new is posted?
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                              • alexknyc
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-22-11
                                • 861

                                #505
                                Originally posted by Nino7
                                is it possible to receive an email whenever something new is posted?
                                Yes. SBR has a set up where you can be alerted to the first new post. They will not send you another notice until after you visit the thread again on SBR.

                                Unfortunately, that often means the idiots "checking in," asking questions that have been answered several times already, newbies and/or trolls will prevent you from receiving the updates you really want-- like notification of plays being posted.
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                                • Nino7
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 07-11-09
                                  • 798

                                  #506
                                  alright ty do you know how to do it?
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                                  • Nino7
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 07-11-09
                                    • 798

                                    #507
                                    test
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                                    • Nino7
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-11-09
                                      • 798

                                      #508
                                      retest
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                                      • alexknyc
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 03-22-11
                                        • 861

                                        #509
                                        Originally posted by Nino7
                                        alright ty do you know how to do it?
                                        Subscribe to the thread under "thread tools" and choose your method of notification.
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                                        • Nino7
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 07-11-09
                                          • 798

                                          #510
                                          ty alex
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                                          • imotiv8
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 12-28-09
                                            • 892

                                            #511
                                            thanks
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                                            • Nino7
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-11-09
                                              • 798

                                              #512
                                              no play today?
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                                              • thelimit0310
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-24-11
                                                • 1233

                                                #513
                                                7/5 Plays NOV 11

                                                No Plays

                                                7/5 Plays NOV 12

                                                Atlanta +2.5 vs Portland - Bet 1

                                                Results:
                                                Bet 1: 3-2
                                                Bet 2: 1-1
                                                Utah 11/2
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                                                • Mrscofield25
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-23-11
                                                  • 2483

                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by Nino7
                                                  no play today?
                                                  Game schedule is on page 4 post #107. Rules is in post #140.
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                                                  • Nino7
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 07-11-09
                                                    • 798

                                                    #515
                                                    Originally posted by Mrscofield25
                                                    Game schedule is on page 4 post #107. Rules is in post #140.
                                                    i know the plays but i dont place them until thelimit0310 posted them officialy so i dont do any mistake...otherwise whats the point of him posting them?
                                                    Last edited by Nino7; 11-12-12, 04:46 PM.
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                                                    • Mrscofield25
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-23-11
                                                      • 2483

                                                      #516
                                                      Originally posted by Nino7
                                                      i know the plays but i dont place them until thelimit0310 posted them officialy so i dont do any mistake...otherwise whats the point of him posting them?
                                                      Then you just have to wait for him to post them. I believe the plays will be postet when the posters have time to post them. And if you are unsecure on what to bet... Then wait. It's that simple.
                                                      Last edited by Mrscofield25; 11-12-12, 04:56 PM.
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                                                      • NZT-48
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-29-11
                                                        • 522

                                                        #517
                                                        thanks J.M. I wish Morrison would get his crap together u know....puts it out and it shouldnt be according to the thread like wow u know very annoying....has anyone gotten his official yet today?


                                                        Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                        It was MIA's 2nd game of their road trip, there for not a play.

                                                        ATL becomes a B bet
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                                                        • stevex
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-02-10
                                                          • 5122

                                                          #518
                                                          JM Traditional System

                                                          11/12/2012

                                                          V1

                                                          Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 3-0
                                                          Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 3-0
                                                          Current series pending: 1

                                                          1. Atlanta Hawks B Bet +3 @ Portland Trailblazers (Risking 150 TO WIN 136.36)
                                                          Atlanta Hawks B Bet (with buying 3 points) +6 @ Portland Trailblazers



                                                          V2

                                                          Current chase record W/OUT buying point: 3-0
                                                          Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 3-0
                                                          Current series pending: 1


                                                          1. Utah Jazz A Bet -3 @ Toronto Raptors (Risking 110 TO WIN 100)
                                                          Utah Jazz A Bet ML -155 @ Toronto Raptors

                                                          V3

                                                          Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 3-1
                                                          Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 4-0
                                                          Current series pending: 0
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                                                          • J.M. Disciple
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-16-10
                                                            • 5154

                                                            #519
                                                            Steve your posting labby and traditional correct?

                                                            Wallco, don't need exact amount but do you remember how 1-3-5 did on average? 60u?

                                                            Thanks

                                                            currently running my own back test, will take 2 weeks or so but want to compare numbers.
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                                                            • juice050
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 11-19-10
                                                              • 367

                                                              #520
                                                              Originally posted by stevex
                                                              JM Traditional System

                                                              11/12/2012

                                                              V1

                                                              Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 3-0
                                                              Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 3-0
                                                              Current series pending: 1

                                                              1. Atlanta Hawks B Bet +3 @ Portland Trailblazers (Risking 150 TO WIN 136.36)
                                                              Atlanta Hawks B Bet (with buying 3 points) +6 @ Portland Trailblazers



                                                              V2

                                                              Current chase record W/OUT buying point: 3-0
                                                              Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 3-0
                                                              Current series pending: 1


                                                              1. Utah Jazz A Bet -3 @ Toronto Raptors (Risking 110 TO WIN 100)
                                                              Utah Jazz A Bet ML -155 @ Toronto Raptors

                                                              V3

                                                              Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 3-1
                                                              Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 4-0
                                                              Current series pending: 0



                                                              hey stevex can you post with each system the records for a,b,c sorta like wallco does? last year thelimit was posting it like that. its actually a good indication to see how a b and c levels are hitting for each system. thanks
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                                                              • Wallco99
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-01-11
                                                                • 7261

                                                                #521
                                                                Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                                Steve your posting labby and traditional correct?

                                                                Wallco, don't need exact amount but do you remember how 1-3-5 did on average? 60u?

                                                                Thanks

                                                                currently running my own back test, will take 2 weeks or so but want to compare numbers.
                                                                I believe limit has that data, I don't recall the exact amounts. I stopped playing when we came up with 7/5.
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                                                                • sipdawg7
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 07-12-11
                                                                  • 16

                                                                  #522
                                                                  If you wanted to start with 100 as your A bet, and the team were an underdog, would you bet 100 or bet 110 to win 100? Or does the system say to buy 3 points, then would u bet 100 or have 100 "to win" (lets say bet 160 to win 100 after buying 3 points).

                                                                  Also if it were a favorite, and you were to bet the ML, would you bet 100 OR bet 100 "to win"?
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                                                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-16-10
                                                                    • 5154

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Hey steve, might have to reupdate your records. Based on the spread sheet these are the records I have:

                                                                    A: 7 - 5
                                                                    B: 3 - 2
                                                                    C: 2 - 0

                                                                    There was one discrepancy earlier with UTah covering the spread, but with 3 points bought it covered by 1/2 a point. I only count 10 wins on your posting.

                                                                    1-3-5 profit: +7.72units
                                                                    Traditional buying 3 points: +12units
                                                                    1 series pending

                                                                    Maybe were not including the games on the 31st?
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                                                                    • Kev the Brit
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-25-09
                                                                      • 2027

                                                                      #524
                                                                      Hi Limit,
                                                                      Your JM 7/5 (no points buy) plus your 2 filters is an excellent system, well done. As you probably know I'm very familiar with the concept of comparing staking strategies within the total risk of a series failure when trying to win a single unit. ie total risk is approx 21 units to win 1 unit and betting to win 7 on B and then 12 on C provides the greatest return against the same total risk.

                                                                      So, having proven the case for 7/5, why do we not now simply make it a "1.4/1" system, thus simplifying staking strategies? The standard betting unit proved the case for your system, but now you can make the target unit one 5th of the comparitive unit. Its only a case of scale, but publishing a system whereby the player bets to win 7 units (B) then 12 units (C) will invite a lot of questions from the noobies. Telling them to bet to win 1 unit then 1.75 units aligns better with the standard concept of betting to win 1 unit. The absolute value of the bettor's unit is, of course, irrelevant to the system.

                                                                      Thoughts?

                                                                      Kev
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                                                                      • Nino7
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 07-11-09
                                                                        • 798

                                                                        #525
                                                                        Originally posted by Mrscofield25
                                                                        Then you just have to wait for him to post them. I believe the plays will be postet when the posters have time to post them. And if you are unsecure on what to bet... Then wait. It's that simple.
                                                                        Yeah but the thing is thelimit0310 used to post earlyer so i was suspecting Atlanta was not a play and the limit0310 might not post at all tonight so I prefered to make sure and asked about it before refreshing the thread 300 times for 2 hours..Otherwise thanks for your interest and for telling me what I have or not to do but I don't really care about you and what you think and if you are not willing to answer me then you have to let an other eventual follower doing it and shut the f.uck up...It's even simpler.
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