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  • suicidekings
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-23-09
    • 9962

    #596
    One more NCAAB game tonight.

    Creighton -4 (-108) x1
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    • suicidekings
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-23-09
      • 9962

      #597
      2/19

      Mavs -2 (-110) x2
      Nets ML (+120) x2
      Last edited by suicidekings; 02-19-12, 11:56 AM.
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      • Dexter
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-24-08
        • 25829

        #598
        Originally posted by suicidekings
        One more NCAAB game tonight.

        Creighton -4 (-108) x1
        oh no....see pm i just sent you.
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        • suicidekings
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-23-09
          • 9962

          #599
          Originally posted by Dexter
          oh no....see pm i just sent you.
          Yup, my bad. I've gone against LBS a couple of times this year and regretted it. The Jays were VERY lucky to win that game at all. Basically a breakeven day with NCAAB. No harm, no foul. I've got to educate myself a bit more in the next month in preparation for the tournament.
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          • suicidekings
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-23-09
            • 9962

            #600
            Originally posted by suicidekings
            2/19 Mavs -2 (-110) x2 Nets ML (+120) x2
            LIVE (End of 1Q, 32-20 Knicks): Mavs ML (+212) x2
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            • Pauulzcappin
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-23-10
              • 20295

              #601
              Missed that. Don't think I'll get a line this good anymore during the game.

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              • suicidekings
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 03-23-09
                • 9962

                #602
                Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                Missed that. Don't think I'll get a line this good anymore during the game.
                For the last 4 minutes of the 1Q I was sitting here watching the Knicks make shot after shot while the Mavs couldn't hit anything, saying to myself "No WAY does this continue all game". NY has had a nice run recently against mostly poor teams, but let's see how they do in this final 4 games before the ASB against the Mavs/Hawks/Heat.
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                • suicidekings
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-09
                  • 9962

                  #603
                  I don't normally blame the refs, but there were some bullshit calls down the stretch, tipping the scale in this game... Dirk denied a couple of FTs with no-calls on blatant fouls, and the Knicks awarded an extra pair on a loose ball foul. True, Lin and others came up big down the stretch, but they definitely got some favourable hometown calls today.
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                  • Pauulzcappin
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-23-10
                    • 20295

                    #604
                    Totally agreed. That loose ball call was blatantly stupid. Mavs were a bit careless and Novak went on a crazy streak down the stretch but I think Mavs would have won without ref interference.
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                    • No coincidences
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #605
                      Originally posted by suicidekings
                      I don't normally blame the refs, but there were some bullshit calls down the stretch, tipping the scale in this game... Dirk denied a couple of FTs with no-calls on blatant fouls, and the Knicks awarded an extra pair on a loose ball foul. True, Lin and others came up big down the stretch, but they definitely got some favourable hometown calls today.
                      I honestly feel more and more like I'm watching the WWF.
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                      • Pauulzcappin
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-23-10
                        • 20295

                        #606
                        I think I'm going to stop betting national televised reg season games. Refs were flawless on the Hornets/Knicks game and New Orleans just ran over them.
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                        • demens
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-22-10
                          • 2785

                          #607
                          Originally posted by suicidekings
                          I don't normally blame the refs, but there were some bullshit calls down the stretch, tipping the scale in this game... Dirk denied a couple of FTs with no-calls on blatant fouls, and the Knicks awarded an extra pair on a loose ball foul. True, Lin and others came up big down the stretch, but they definitely got some favourable hometown calls today.
                          I thought Jason Terry got clobbered on his rebound when the Mavs down 3 with less then a min to go. Terry went for the 3, missed and Lin got JR Smith for a fastbreak layup pretty much killing off the game.

                          Not the refs fault though, just 1 play, Mavs should have played better. Credit Lin and NYK i guess. I still think the kid is hype and will be back on the bench eventually but maybe i'm wrong.
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                          • No coincidences
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-18-10
                            • 76300

                            #608
                            Originally posted by demens
                            I thought Jason Terry got clobbered on his rebound when the Mavs down 3 with less then a min to go. Terry went for the 3, missed and Lin got JR Smith for a fastbreak layup pretty much killing off the game.

                            Not the refs fault though, just 1 play, Mavs should have played better. Credit Lin and NYK i guess. I still think the kid is hype and will be back on the bench eventually but maybe i'm wrong.
                            Any time you get a deep reserve scoring 14 points in a four-minute stretch of a close game, you're going to win. Period. Novak was today's MVP.
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                            • demens
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-22-10
                              • 2785

                              #609
                              Its the Mavs fault for leaving him open. They dont need 4 guys to collapse on Lin when he drives, this isn't Michael Jordan. I didn't like how Carlise was trying to trap him all game long as it was. I still can't believe teams have not figured out how to guard this guy. Its not like he is fast, he just changes speed fast. A good defender should be able to stop his penetration and get around those picknrolls. Teams are lagging behind on the scouring reports on this guy and letting the hype go on for way longer then it needs to.
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                              • suicidekings
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-23-09
                                • 9962

                                #610
                                Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                                Totally agreed. That loose ball call was blatantly stupid. Mavs were a bit careless and Novak went on a crazy streak down the stretch but I think Mavs would have won without ref interference.
                                Maybe. I would call it a 6 FT differential in the last ~2:30 that was caused by the refs, with 4 of those going to Dirk, and 2 awarded to Chandler on the LBF. Chandler made both, Dirk would likely have made 3+. Take away the meaningless 2 at the end with 5 seconds left, and we would have been looking at a game decided in the final seconds and probably ending in a margin of no more than 2 points, either way. Or overtime.
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #611
                                  Originally posted by demens
                                  Its the Mavs fault for leaving him open. They dont need 4 guys to collapse on Lin when he drives, this isn't Michael Jordan. I didn't like how Carlise was trying to trap him all game long as it was. I still can't believe teams have not figured out how to guard this guy. Its not like he is fast, he just changes speed fast. A good defender should be able to stop his penetration and get around those picknrolls. Teams are lagging behind on the scouring reports on this guy and letting the hype go on for way longer then it needs to.
                                  That's what I'm most surprised by -- that it's taken teams so long to adjust and expose his weaknesses even further. Especially Carlisle, who is supposedly an outstanding bench coach. What an awful gameplan today.
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                                  • Pauulzcappin
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-23-10
                                    • 20295

                                    #612
                                    Unfortunately it's a risk we run when betting the NBA. Gotta hope for better luck next time. Lamar Odom also played like shit tonight. He absolutely buried me on the Mavs-Nuggets game.
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                                    • suicidekings
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-23-09
                                      • 9962

                                      #613
                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                      That's what I'm most surprised by -- that it's taken teams so long to adjust and expose his weaknesses even further. Especially Carlisle, who is supposedly an outstanding bench coach. What an awful gameplan today.
                                      The Mavs may have started out the game defending him poorly, but they adjusted their approach in the 2Q, trapping him on virtually every possession that he was working off the screen. The reason he's hard to adapt to is because he's a distributor first, and a shooter second. But he's skilled & confident enough that he can take the tough shot as well. He made some unbelievably tough shots today, including two of those 3 pointers made shooting over the top of Dirk at the end of the 24 second clock. I couldn't believe it.

                                      So really, all the Mavs were able to do was take away his dribble penetration, but the extra emphasis on him left Novak and JR with several wide open looks and they capitalized. A tough PG on a team featuring as least 2 high-level 3 point shooters is REALLY tough to defend. Add a top 5 centre in Chandler for rebounding and the Knicks have a complete team for the first time in a long time.
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #614
                                        Originally posted by suicidekings
                                        The Mavs may have started out the game defending him poorly, but they adjusted their approach in the 2Q, trapping him on virtually every possession that he was working off the screen. The reason he's hard to adapt to is because he's a distributor first, and a shooter second. But he's skilled & confident enough that he can take the tough shot as well. He made some unbelievably tough shots today, including two of those 3 pointers made shooting over the top of Dirk at the end of the 24 second clock. I couldn't believe it.

                                        So really, all the Mavs were able to do was take away his dribble penetration, but the extra emphasis on him left Novak and JR with several wide open looks and they capitalized. A tough PG on a team featuring as least 2 high-level 3 point shooters is REALLY tough to defend. Add a top 5 centre in Chandler for rebounding and the Knicks have a complete team for the first time in a long time.
                                        Why not at least force him to his left?
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                                        • suicidekings
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-23-09
                                          • 9962

                                          #615
                                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                                          Why not at least force him to his left?
                                          They tried to. Both of those 3 pointers made over Dirk were the result of him getting caught with nowhere to go on a short 24s clock. When he had the time, he pulled out and reset the offense, but the Mavs aren't built to handle explosive PGs as Kidd has lost a step, Terry is much more of an offensive player than a defender, and Beaubois is on leave from the team right now. They have a lot of length in their perimeter defenders as a whole, but not much speed. When a fast PG starts attacking them, they tend to get beaten on the first step a lot, forcing them to foul and/or allowing him to drive and kick it out. That's bad news when Lin's best shot is the short runner in the paint. SO tough to defend without giving him too much room to take open 3s.
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                                          • suicidekings
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 03-23-09
                                            • 9962

                                            #616
                                            Originally posted by suicidekings
                                            2/19

                                            Mavs -2 (-110) x2
                                            Mavs ML (+212) x2
                                            Nets ML (+120) x2

                                            2/19: 0-3 (-6.2u)
                                            YTD: 60-61-2 (+32.24u)
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                                            • suicidekings
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 03-23-09
                                              • 9962

                                              #617
                                              2/20

                                              Clippers ML (-130) x1


                                              I think the popular side is the right side tonight.
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                                              • No coincidences
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-18-10
                                                • 76300

                                                #618
                                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                2/20

                                                Clippers ML (-130) x1


                                                I think the popular side is the right side tonight.
                                                What do you think about the Blazers/Lakers?
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                                                • suicidekings
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                  • 9962

                                                  #619
                                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                  What do you think about the Blazers/Lakers?
                                                  I think the Lakers let the Blazers hang around all game and then take the 4Q and the game, but that's just a raw opinion that's not really backed up by anything substantial. Not a good spot to play either team, in my opinion.
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                                                  • suicidekings
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                    • 9962

                                                    #620
                                                    Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                    2/20 Clippers ML (-130) x1 I think the popular side is the right side tonight.

                                                    LIVE (End of 1Q, 29-23 Warriors): Clippers ML (+128) x1


                                                    Composite line: Clippers ML (-101) x2.28
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                                                    • suicidekings
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 03-23-09
                                                      • 9962

                                                      #621
                                                      Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                      2/20

                                                      Clippers ML (-101) x2.28

                                                      2/20: 0-1 (-2.30u)
                                                      YTD: 60-62-2 (+29.94u)
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                                                      • suicidekings
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-23-09
                                                        • 9962

                                                        #622
                                                        I just can't say No to the West at +160 today. People say All Star games don't matter at all, but considering how much ego there is in the modern day NBA, I think there's a lot to motivate these players today...

                                                        West ML (+160) x2
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                                                        • Love The Action
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-08-10
                                                          • 10952

                                                          #623
                                                          Originally posted by suicidekings

                                                          2/20: 0-1 (-2.30u)
                                                          YTD: 60-62-2 (+29.94u)
                                                          Great season so far.

                                                          I didn't have time to look into the all star game, so I am going to tail your Western Conference ML play. Thanks and good luck.
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                                                          • alamo
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-21-09
                                                            • 7131

                                                            #624
                                                            Great call SK. Was with yourself and LTA on this. Also cashed a load of inrunning bets on both teams and O/U and middled them all.
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                                                            • parlayin
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-03-07
                                                              • 1091

                                                              #625
                                                              Good call
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                                                              • Love The Action
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-08-10
                                                                • 10952

                                                                #626
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                                                                • bmur714
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 02-10-12
                                                                  • 189

                                                                  #627
                                                                  Thanks SK
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                                                                  • suicidekings
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                                    • 9962

                                                                    #628
                                                                    Originally posted by alamo
                                                                    Great call SK. Was with yourself and LTA on this. Also cashed a load of inrunning bets on both teams and O/U and middled them all.
                                                                    Originally posted by parlayin
                                                                    Good call
                                                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                    Originally posted by bmur714
                                                                    Thanks SK


                                                                    301 total points scored... Madness, but I guess we can't complain Bring on the second half.
                                                                    Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                                    West ML (+160) x2

                                                                    2/26: 1-0 (+3.2u)

                                                                    YTD: 61-62-2 (+33.14u)
                                                                    Last edited by suicidekings; 02-26-12, 11:51 PM.
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                                                                    • MidgetTossers
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-06-09
                                                                      • 13376

                                                                      #629
                                                                      nice call bud
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                                                                      • parlayin
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-03-07
                                                                        • 1091

                                                                        #630
                                                                        SK, where do you play your in-game bets? Do use a particular approach or methodology for those or if a a team you already liked before the game gets down early you find added value there? Also, do you try to find the lowest point for that team or do you just check the lines during the game and see if anything jumps out?
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