John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

**Maxi_EV** · 03-01-12, 07:37 AM

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**knugen** · 03-01-12, 07:44 AM

5 A bet wins in 2 days with JM without buying any points at all, thaaats nice

**stickbit** · 03-01-12, 09:38 AM

Yes the a bets have been on a tear...which means things probably even out soon and we start getting a lot of series going to b and c games.

**thelimit0310** · 03-01-12, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by shinnman

why not run them both, the7/5 method has more total units, but that doesnt mean theres no use for A bets, anything with a 43-21 record is a money maker, i look at them as seperate entities

Not sure how many times we have to say this in this forum, but the A bet's long term will cause you to lose money. Your forgetting to get that record you need to buy 3 points, making higher juice. If you don't believe me check out the 10 years of data on the subject in last years thread. That's why you skip the A bets, not because we "feel like it" but because the A bets bring the system down, they are not profitable. Stevex and everyone else playing the A bets traditionally don't realize this, they are only looking at the week forward not the overall data of the trend.

**thelimit0310** · 03-01-12, 10:00 AM

JM Feb 29

V1 OKC -.5 @ Philadelphia (A) WIN
V3 CHICAGO +5.5 @ San Antonio (A) WIN
V3 MILWAUKEE +9.5 @ Boston (A) WIN

Results Per Version

Version 1
A: 13-5
B: 2-3
C: 3-0

Version 2
A: 6-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 27-14
B: 11-3
C: 2-1
DET 1/28-1/31

Totals
A: 46-21
B: 15-6
C: 5-1

JM Mar 1

V3 LA CLIPPERS -.5 @ Sacramento (A)
V1 MIAMI -2 @ Portland (A)

**shinnman** · 03-01-12, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

Not sure how many times we have to say this in this forum, but the A bet's long term will cause you to lose money. Your forgetting to get that record you need to buy 3 points, making higher juice. If you don't believe me check out the 10 years of data on the subject in last years thread. That's why you skip the A bets, not because we "feel like it" but because the A bets bring the system down, they are not profitable. Stevex and everyone else playing the A bets traditionally don't realize this, they are only looking at the week forward not the overall data of the trend.

your missing my point, im not talkin about playing them the traditional way, if you have something that wins 69% of the time you find a way to bet it, my A bet losses dont effect my B/C bets, they simply effect my next A bet, keeping them totally seperated,

**thelimit0310** · 03-01-12, 12:43 PM

Well then how are you playing them? Regardless of whether they're part of the system or not the A bets, buying 3 points, lose you money by themselves. So your playing without a point buy right? Keep in mind if you play without a point buy the win rate is not 69%. Do you labby?

**Maxi_EV** · 03-01-12, 02:52 PM

Just in the last 3 pages, I counted at least 20 different followers on this thread...

...and so few points are given to those working here....

Shame.

**shinnman** · 03-01-12, 03:06 PM

Ya I labby the A bets by themselves without buying and then the 7/5 , not sure if I like the new layout of this site, what do you guys think

**Sandwich** · 03-01-12, 03:26 PM

Labbying the A bets isn't a bad idea, if you don't buy points. I guess the real question is the record of the A bets this season w/o buying points.

**Wallco99** · 03-01-12, 04:53 PM

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**Wallco99** · 03-01-12, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by shinnman

Ya I labby the A bets by themselves without buying and then the 7/5 , not sure if I like the new layout of this site, what do you guys think

I hate it!

**J.M. Disciple** · 03-01-12, 04:55 PM

Im on Miami tonight for 2 units.

**Maxi_EV** · 03-01-12, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by shinnman

Ya I labby the A bets by themselves without buying and then the 7/5 , not sure if I like the new layout of this site, what do you guys think

**1gamer** · 03-01-12, 05:54 PM

Parlaying both JM's on the ML.

**Win89** · 03-01-12, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

I hate it!

I access the threads from my phone the majority of the time and my question concerning the new layout is how do i get to previous pages? All its showing me is a banner of page #s from 1-12...I can only see those pages and the very last. Anyone having this same problem?

**bisturis** · 03-01-12, 06:15 PM

I'm having the same problem! I can't access any pages even though it shows the page numbers.

**shinnman** · 03-01-12, 06:30 PM

I had same prob, at the bottom of the page click on full site, it worked for me, hope this helped

**J.M. Disciple** · 03-01-12, 06:34 PM

A = 2 strike
B = 3 strike
C = 4 strike

Easy money

**Kev the Brit** · 03-01-12, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by stevex

shinnman EXACTLY!. The entire point of an A,B,C system is that yes the A bets DO HIT. I love how Kev and whoever says "not to play the A bets." It's absolutely absurd to skip A bets when you can and will make money betting them...

Steve, I suggest not playing the A Bet because I don't know when it will win. Sure enough, in hindsight, the A bets have been very good recently and arguably I have lost money and I will lose more money in the future if I go back to betting to win 1 unit on the A, B and C bets. Don't forget that the B/C bettors will be betting to win 3 or 7 units when the next A bet fails and our total risk, if it goes to a C Bet, will be less than what you will be risking to win 1 unit from the A Bet.

Good luck with your A bets, though.

**Kev the Brit** · 03-01-12, 07:08 PM

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**Kev the Brit** · 03-01-12, 07:17 PM

wtf?

Sorry guys, this new structure is screwing me around. 3 surplus posts now deleted. I hope this edit now saves without duplication, unlike my last attempt to edit....

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**Kev the Brit** · 03-01-12, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by shinnman

your missing my point, im not talkin about playing them the traditional way, if you have something that wins 69% of the time you find a way to bet it, my A bet losses dont effect my B/C bets, they simply effect my next A bet, keeping them totally seperated,

So, are you saying that you chase the A Bets within themselves? Eg, if an A Bet loses on, say, Series 1, you set aside your lost money and add it to your target for the A Bet in Series 2, which then becomes a pseudo "B" bet. In the meantime you start afresh in Series 1 with a B/C strategy?
Chasing A bets would be dangerous, due to the regularity of A bet losing streaks, of course.

Or do you simply flat bet the A bets, hoping that they win more than 65% which, ultimately, they will not do (according to the backtests)

Either way, I don't see betting on the A bets as a robust strategy in the long term.

Anyway, they are doing really well at the moment so good luck to you. While you're winning I'm neither winning nor losing, so I'm quite ambivalent at the moment

**tj_lightning** · 03-02-12, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by Sandwich

Labbying the A bets isn't a bad idea, if you don't buy points. I guess the real question is the record of the A bets this season w/o buying points.

As of March 1st I have the record for A bets at 45-35 without buying points. I have been using the closing lines from 5Dimes because they are the first column for me in the live odds section. The games that I have been tracking are from the schedule that was posted early in this forum. I believe it was post #81.

**knugen** · 03-02-12, 03:06 AM

What a night, 2 more A wins 

**Wallco99** · 03-02-12, 06:25 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 43-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +5.71 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

v1 Plays
(A) 27-18
(B) 7-11
(C) 6-5
(D) 3-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (3/2/12):
#46 Charlotte (+14½) @ San Antonio (A) (8:35 pm EST)
#47 Dallas (M/L) @ New Orleans (A) (8:05 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**Wallco99** · 03-02-12, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by tj_lightning

As of March 1st I have the record for A bets at 45-35 without buying points. I have been using the closing lines from 5Dimes because they are the first column for me in the live odds section. The games that I have been tracking are from the schedule that was posted early in this forum. I believe it was post #81.

Your numbers are off, there have only been 69 series so far, meaning, there can't be 80 (A) bets already. Try again. And the 45 is definitely wrong.

**Maxi_EV** · 03-02-12, 07:36 AM

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**Maxi_EV** · 03-02-12, 09:11 AM

No ******* "last page" button on that new mobile interface!?!?!?
£~**^^<€*#??'r!!!;(

**thelimit0310** · 03-02-12, 10:37 AM

All you guys on mobile should switch to the "full site". Should take care of a lot of problems