John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

**adidas-b 88** · 02-10-12, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by alexknyc

Back when I used BetUS, buying 3 points was -170, which sucks but not as badly as -200.

Did you have issues with betus? I'm using that currently

**DollarBill10** · 02-10-12, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

+47 units here.

THIS IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE YOU SAID TO MY +19 UNITS...LOL.

Playing the 1/3/5 right?

**Nino7** · 02-10-12, 05:40 PM

u dont buy points wallco?

**alexknyc** · 02-10-12, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by adidas-b 88

Did you have issues with betus? I'm using that currently

Just that the lines would change on me when I signed in. And never in my favor.

**Nino7** · 02-10-12, 05:52 PM

dont use betus ever when u win they are like "oh u are not a recreationnal player so we will confiscate ur winnings"

**casdio** · 02-10-12, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by petters72

This is the response from pinnacle....

Dear Sir,

We remind you to include your client ID number in every query.

The "buy points" menu option on the site was removed as of 9 February 2012.* We found this option was rarely used by our clients and was in some cases more expensive.

You may now either buy or sell points by clicking the down arrow located next to the Handicap and Total Points box.

When buying or selling points, the price*of the wager is changed according to the bet.

Please be sure to review both the points you buy or sell and the price before confirming your wager.

Kind regards,

Customer Service Department

Pinnacle Sports

Idiots...what other sportbook can I use instead? I live in Sweden...

I use bet365.com and I like it. Don't know if it is ok in your country though...

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Nino7

u dont buy points wallco?

No sir, don't believe in point buying.

**Wilba** · 02-10-12, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Maybe this year, but not backtested over many years (I do not have the numbers in front of me, but I am pretty sure I remember seeing backtested results showing it to be more profitable not buying points... anyone have this data? Since you are so bored these days Wallco and Limit, maybe you guys have it

)

Other way around man.. But only if you played the system traditionally (or chased B/C). Can't speak for labbying etc as it is impossible to backtest

**Wilba** · 02-10-12, 06:16 PM

wow can't believe Pinnacle removed 3 point buy... They are my fav book

**Wilba** · 02-10-12, 06:17 PM

dlunc you can look up the info in last years thread if you like. Sorry but I can't be bothered looking up my stats I just moved house and they are buried somewhere

**dlunc3** · 02-10-12, 06:19 PM

no prob man.. i dont really play the systems.. just jump in with flat bets when i feel a win % is high.. just tryin to help some of the other guys out that are struggling with not being able to buy points. BOL with the house

**J.M. Disciple** · 02-10-12, 06:50 PM

If you bet to win 1 unit using a chase system with out buying points it is NOT more profitable then buying 3 points over the past 10 years. Buying 3 points is a must unless you are a labby player.

Wallco has proven 1-3-5 with out buying points is more profitable because your losses are recovered faster.

Overall, you must buy points unless you are playing 1-3-5 or using a labby.

Thanks
JMD

**1gamer** · 02-10-12, 09:25 PM

CASH THE HEAT!

(System +32 Units Since Feb 4th) (Open series 0)

I love it when a plan comes together.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by 1gamer

CASH THE HEAT!

(System +32 Units Since Feb 4th) (Open series 0)

I love it when a plan comes together.

What plan, your parlays are losing, and you are wagering more on the B and C bets then anyone else in this thread has to in order to attain the same profit. You call that a plan???

**1gamer** · 02-10-12, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

What plan, your parlays are losing, and you are wagering more on the B and C bets then anyone else in this thread has to in order to attain the same profit. You call that a plan???

I'll take that over getting locked into a inept series anyday.

I'm 1-3 for the week on parlays. Let's CASH

the upcoming Denver play

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by DollarBill10

THIS IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE YOU SAID TO MY +19 UNITS...LOL.

Playing the 1/3/5 right?

No, actually I was agreeing with you that you can make more money by not buying points if you play it right. I was playing 1-3-5, but since I agree with Wilba that B/C method is much more profitable than starting at A, I began 7/5 a few weeks back. Doing very well thus far. And I was wrong, it is +54 units...Miami just got me 7 more.

**knugen** · 02-10-12, 10:34 PM

Hornets are not true, how bad can they end à game, 1 point

**thelimit0310** · 02-10-12, 11:18 PM

The 7/5 method is just about finished. Findings will be posted tomorrow. There were a couple snags along the way but I've worked out most of the kinks and I think all of you will be pleased

**COBRA31** · 02-11-12, 12:51 AM

I'm going to take the Clippers over the Bobcats tomorrow...try and get back my Bobcats lost units.

Bulls killed them tonight....I need them to remain nice and pathetic one more night.

I think Clippers should easily cover...but what do I know. I am going to buy down 3 pts. to -7.

Not an official system play...but wanted to point out in case anyone wants to gamble with me. I know not to clog up the thread with non system crap...so forgive me for anyone annoyed. Just thought some others might like the play.

**djluvr** · 02-11-12, 03:05 AM

Betus know the Morrison plays, I found when I was using them the lines would adjust as well as the price. Gave them the flick they are useless

**Riceboi** · 02-11-12, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

The 7/5 method is just about finished. Findings will be posted tomorrow. There were a couple snags along the way but I've worked out most of the kinks and I think all of you will be pleased

nice! can't wait

**Wilba** · 02-11-12, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

No, actually I was agreeing with you that you can make more money by not buying points if you play it right. I was playing 1-3-5, but since I agree with Wilba that B/C method is much more profitable than starting at A, I began 7/5 a few weeks back. Doing very well thus far. And I was wrong, it is +54 units...Miami just got me 7 more.

Good stuff Wallco, congrats.

Thanks to you and the limit for your hard work backtesting. Looking forward to seeing the results (hopefully) tomorrow

**Wilba** · 02-11-12, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

What plan, your parlays are losing, and you are wagering more on the B and C bets then anyone else in this thread has to in order to attain the same profit. You call that a plan???

**million2one** · 02-11-12, 08:55 AM

Upcoming sixers series should be a max bet, especially that now they are coming off of 2 losses.

**hagball52** · 02-11-12, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by djluvr

Betus know the Morrison plays, I found when I was using them the lines would adjust as well as the price. Gave them the flick they are useless

Yeah, I had the same problem with BetUS. I signed up with them through Morrison. It is an automatic curse. They change the lines once they know you are with Morrison. They wanted me to fund my account again and I said "take me off the Morrison list and I will". They said they couldn't do that so I closed my account.

**1gamer** · 02-11-12, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by 1gamer

I'll take that over getting locked into a inept series anyday.

I'm 1-3 for the week on parlays. Let's CASH

the upcoming Denver play

**Wilba** · 02-11-12, 10:47 AM

Ok... Laughing at and mocking his own post

**1gamer** · 02-11-12, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Wilba

Ok... Laughing at and mocking his own post

**Wallco99** · 02-11-12, 11:26 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 32-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -5.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-8.20 units)

(2/10/12):
#36 New Jersey (+3) (A) - Loss
#37 New Orleans (+7) (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 25-12
(B) 3-7
(C) 2-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/11/12):
#34 Denver (+3) @ Indiana (C) (7:05 pm EST)
#36 San Antonio @ New Jersey (+9½) (B) (8:05 pm EST)
#37 Resumes (B) on 2/13/12

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**Douchebag50** · 02-11-12, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Wilba

Good stuff Wallco, congrats.

Thanks to you and the limit for your hard work backtesting. Looking forward to seeing the results (hopefully) tomorrow

Ok....but do we need to buy points with the 7/5 method on JM' B/C plays? Sorry to ask, tryed to find the answer on past thread but unable to find it

**ChiLLx** · 02-11-12, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Douchebag50

Ok....but do we need to buy points with the 7/5 method on JM' B/C plays? Sorry to ask, tryed to find the answer on past thread but unable to find it

They are going to post the results today, just be patient and they will answer your questions.

**thelimit0310** · 02-11-12, 12:20 PM

JM Feb 10

V3 MIAMI -9.5 @ Washington (B) WIN

RESULTS PER VERSION

Version 1
A: 9-5
B: 2-3
C: 3-0

Version 2
A: 3-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 17-13
B: 10-3
C: 2-1
DET 1/28-1/31

Totals
A: 29-20
B: 14-6
C: 5-1

JM Feb 11

V3 PHILADELPHIA -4 @ Cleveland (A)
V3 PHOENIX +5 @ Sacramento (A)

All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

**1gamer** · 02-11-12, 12:39 PM

FYI For those of you betting both V3 (A) Pho and C1 (C) Denver today: These two teams have the potential to collide on 2/14, on a V3 Pho (C) bet and C1 Denver (D) bet.

**ChiLLx** · 02-11-12, 12:49 PM

Then let's hope they win tonight.

**petters72** · 02-11-12, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by 1gamer

FYI For those of you betting both V3 (A) Pho and C1 (C) Denver today: These two teams have the potential to collide on 2/14, on a V3 Pho (C) bet and C1 Denver (D) bet.

Is Denver really à c-bet???