-110 is the way to go especially if you're labbying. Did it all last year and had a good year. We did start off with a couple of C bet losses if you where playing -110 earlier, but no worries. Will get it all back and more!
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Are you sure that Phoenix is a V1 A since they were suppose to lose ATS by MORE than 3 points to their in conference opponent, and I also think that's with 3 points added to the spread making it the +11.5 so they needed to lose by at least 15? Even if you were going by the original +8.5 they still only lost by 2.5 points.Comment -
Post #809 is officially the first time I have ever seen points given to points. Thank you so much.Comment -
Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 12-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +12.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-5.61 units)
(1/16/12):
#11 Boston (+2½) (B) - Loss
#14 Washington (+5½) (A) - Loss
#15 Portland (M/L) (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 10-5
(B) 1-2
(C) 0-1
(D) 1-0
V2 Plays
In production
Games for (1/17/12):
#11 Resumes (C) on 1/18/12
#13 Phoenix (+9) @ Chicago (B) (8:05 pm EST)
#14 Resumes (B) on 1/18/12
#16 San Antonio @ Miami (M/L) (A) (7:35 pm EST)
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.Comment -
Miami M/L? Wonder what it's going to be.Comment -
JM January 16
V3 PORTLAND -2.5 @ New Orleans (C) WIN
V1 OKLAHOMA +0.5 @ Boston (A) WIN
V3 DALLAS +7 @ LA Lakers (A) WIN
RESULTS PER VERSION
Version 1
A: 6-3
B: 1-2
C: 2-0
Version 2
A: 1-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0
Version 3
A: 7-7
B: 5-2
C: 2-0
Totals
A: 14-12
B: 8-4
C: 4-0Comment -
JM January 17
V1 DENVER pk @ Milwaukee (A)
V3 CHARLOTTE +15 @ Orlando (A)
All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.Comment -
love the plays tonight, BOL allComment -
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Correct phoenix is unofficial b bet for those who didnt buy 3 pointsDO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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Last 4 A bet won. Talk about missing the A bet.Comment -
PHX going to an unofficial C tomorrow, gonna be a nervous one for us -110 playersComment -
Boston and Phoenix both meet head to head January 20th, which could both be potentially Chase -110 (D) bet. What happens in this senerio?
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We hope one team wins before that. That may have been an oversight on my part. I am constantly looking at series to make sure there is no head-head (D) bet possibilities, if there is, we won't start the second series until the first one has concluded. This one got by me. Even though there is the possibility of winning both sides, since one will be on the money line, the rules state that we shouldn't have started the Phoenix series until Boston won, provided Phoenix continued to lose S/U and ATS. Just have to hope for the best on this one and know that usually I am looking for that.Comment -
Boston better take care of business against the raptors.. Or they might as well throw away their seasonDO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 13-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +13.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-7.92 units)
(1/17/12):
#13 Phoenix (+9.5) (B) - Loss
#16 Miami (M/L) (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 11-5
(B) 1-2
(C) 0-1
(D) 1-0
V2 Plays
In production
Games for (1/18/12):
#11 Toronto @ Boston (**) (C) (7:35 pm EST)
#13 Phoenix (+7½) @ N.Y. Knicks (C) (7:35 pm EST)
#14 Oklahoma City @ Washington (+10½) (B) (7:05 pm EST)
#17 Indiana @ Sacramento (+6) (A) (10:05 pm EST)
#19 Phoenix @ N.Y. Knicks (M/L) (A) (7:35 pm EST)
** Denotes line not available at time of post
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.Comment -
hmmm 2 c bets:X I like that!!!Comment -
If I were you, I would officially delete the Phoenix series from your records, so that your stats reflect your rules, unlike Morrison. The Phoenix series should now become unofficial, whatever happens with the impending C & D bets.
The practicality of this minor incident with Phoenix is that no-one should have lost more than 3.5 units in the series so far. We can each do as we wish with our own money, but my suggestion is that the lost units are temporarily loaned to the bookies and we recover them over the next 3 series. Perhaps starting off by adding 0.5 unit to Boston's C bet tonight. Or, simply let them go...
Although the system is going well we should consider the effect if both teams lose their C Bets tonight. Opposing D bets will most likely result in a minimum of 18.5 unit series loss against one of them. It will become messy if they both lose tonight. I'm dumping Phoenix and adding 0.5 unit to the Boston series as a start to a minor recovery.
Oh, by the way, Wallco, the Chase 110 system is currently 99 undefeated. Best wishes for a successful evening tonight.
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Seems approppriate to paste this onto the board today. Copied from post #5000 in last season's JM NBA thread:
Chase 110 – Official Rules
Find a team that has lost three consecutive games (both S/U and ATS). Play a four game chase on that team to win (A) (B) (C) or (D). If a team is a favorite in any of the games, play the M/L, if the team is a dog in any of the games play the point line (-110). We do not buy points in this system and we do not care if teams were favorites or dogs in the games before the four game chase starts. The only time we would buy points is if your team is a favorite by 1-3 points, and buying down to (-1/2) is cheaper than the M/L. Other than that, we are always playing M/L and (-110). I use covers.com as official play site. If covers.com has the game listed as a win, then the series is over. You may have had a different line then them and lost the game, if this is the case, the decision is yours whether or not to continue, but the game will be deemed a win at that point. ALL PUSHES ARE SEEN AS A NO-PLAY. We will treat those games as if they were never played and just skip them. So if your (B) bet is a push, your next bet will be a (B) bet. This system has not been back tested for pre-season or playoffs, this is for regular season only.
Bet Structure (for 4 game chase)
Chase 110 is definitely profitable. For each series loss in a four game chase @ (-110), you need 18.44 series wins to be even. In a chase system, assuming your initial wager is 1 unit, if you lose your (A) bet, your (B) bet will be your losses of (A) bet + 1 unit. So if (B) wins, your profit will be 1 unit. Same for (C) and (D). Recoup all previous losses + 1 unit. Any time a series wins, you will have profited 1 unit. So, for example, if my system is 70-0, I would be up 70 units, it can't be more than that, because our game odds are always (-110) or lower, unless you are risking more than one unit per bet. If you lose four consecutive bets: (A) (B) (C) and (D), you cumulative loss will be 18.44 units (assuming all four games were played at (-110) and betting to win one unit (slightly more if there was a M/L in one of the games). Another thing, if (A) (B) (C) or (D) wins, the series is over at that point, and system gets a win, the remaining games in the series do not get played. Here are four examples, winning the (A) bet is obvious, so I will skip that one:
Unit size = $100
Win (B) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Win (+210)
Net result: 210 -110 = +100 (+1 unit)
Win (C) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Win (+441)
Net result: 441 - 231 - 110 =+100 (+1 unit)
Win (D) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
(D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Win (+926)
Net result: 926 - 485 - 231 - 110 =+100 (+1 unit)
Lose (D) bet (series loss)
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
(D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Loss (-1018)
Net result: -1018 - 485 - 231 - 110 = -1844 (-18.44 units)
Series Filters
Head to Head Filter: If a team loses three straight games (ATS and S/U), check that team’s schedule to see who their next four opponents are. If one of these teams is a team that is already being played in Chase 110, skip wagering on the new team until the first team has concluded their series. This is to avoid possibly betting on both sides of a game deep in a series (B-D bets). If at that point, the new team has continued their losing streak, you may then pick up your (A) bet on that team, and begin your four game chase. If two teams qualify at the same time, and are scheduled to play each other at some point in their next four games, the team whose potential four game chase would end sooner will be the play. However, if these two teams are scheduled to face each other in their respective (A) bets, this game will be played, taking the (M/L) on the favorite and (-110) on underdog. There is a chance you can win both ends of the bet, and no chance you can lose both, since one team will win. The risk/reward only seems favorable when teams are facing each other in their (A) bets, all other scenarios are just too risky. You may play all teams that qualify, regardless of who their next four opponents are and just take your chances. However, this isn’t recommended. This filter was created to eliminate a possible (D) bet disaster. The wins and losses for the season will be calculated using this filter.
When to play: Chase 110 will be played from day 1 of regular season. As the season winds down, when a team qualifies for a play (three losses ATS and S/U), make sure that team has at least four games remaining on their schedule. If not, that team doesn’t qualify. Results were based on a four game chase, so less than four games to play would lessen your chances of victory. Basic rule of thumb, if the losing streak starts in the last six games of a season, there is no way that team will qualify. If some pushes occur, it may go back a few more games.
System Backtest (2003-2011)
2010-11(63-0) ** This is as of Feb 25, 2011. Still a month and a half to play.**
(A) 31-25
(B) 15-10
(C) 7-3
(D) 3-0
Total profit : +63 units
2009-10 (88-4)
(A) 63-29
(B) 11-18
(C) 10-8
(D) 4-4
Total profit : +11.5 units
2008-09 (86-6) THE BAD SEASON.Three losses involving large M/L. Same couldhappen inJM sys.
(A) 48-44
(B) 20-24
(C) 13-11
(D) 5-6 (four of these won on next bet, too risky to play).
Total loss : -51 units
2007-2008 (86-3)
(A) 58-31
(B) 18-13
(C) 6-7
(D) 4-3
Total Profit : +30 units
2006-07 (101-1)
(A) 64-39
(B) 23-16
(C) 11-5
(D) 4-1
Total Profit : +77.25 units
2005-06 (92-3)
(A) 61-34
(B) 17-17
(C) 10-7
(D) 4-3
Total Profit : +26 units
2004-05 (80-3)
(A) 56-27
(B) 10-17
(C) 7-10
(D) 7-3
Total Profit : +22.5 units
2003-04 (92-4)
(A) 48-48
(B) 30-18
(C) 10-8
(D) 4-4
Total Profit : +14 units
System created by Wallco99
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it was not a part of the rules last season. Just saying. End of story. Not here to argue. Thanks.
or, maybe it was and I missed it. I guess I got lucky b/c I did not lose with this last season and never used the m/l for faves.Comment -
JM January 17
V1 DENVER pk @ Milwaukee (A) WIN
V3 CHARLOTTE +15 @ Orlando (A) WIN
*Unofficial* Phoenix +9.5 @ Chicago (B) LOSS
RESULTS PER VERSION
Version 1
A: 7-3
B: 1-2
C: 2-0
Version 2
A: 1-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0
Version 3
A: 8-7
B: 5-2
C: 2-0
Totals
A: 16-12
B: 8-4
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JM January 18
V1 INDIANA -2.5 @ Sacramento (A)
*Unofficial* Phoenix +7.5 @ NY Knicks (C)
All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.Comment -
opening odds on boston i -550!!!!!!!
are u seriously going to lay that juice, or how do u guys gonna do?
wallco, any idea?Comment -
No ML for me
Probably spread or buy 3 points.Comment
