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  • Sport_Fish
    SBR MVP
    • 12-06-10
    • 4079

    #5741
    Originally posted by mcduggly
    That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Giving the winner of the DUNK CONTEST a car and a million bucks? Yeah right.
    Why is that stupid...u do realize a car and a million bucks is pocket change compared to what kind of money this shit generates.
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    • absolutkaos
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-29-11
      • 213

      #5742
      well it looks like the U is starting to steam now....down to 283.5...

      East all the way to -4.0 now though
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      • Speedy88
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-19-11
        • 11717

        #5743
        Lol at ppl trying to analyze and cap this game.

        I'm thinking of taking the 1H over just because if the game gets close near the end we may just see some defense.
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        • apurvaas
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-09-12
          • 586

          #5744
          Originally posted by Speedy88
          Lol at ppl trying to analyze and cap this game.

          I'm thinking of taking the 1H over just because if the game gets close near the end we may just see some defense.
          It was a tweet from b Leonard from pre game lol
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          • MrXYZ
            SBR MVP
            • 02-18-11
            • 2342

            #5745
            I got a small action play (x0.25) on the under 283.5.
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            • Love The Action
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-08-10
              • 10952

              #5746
              Originally posted by Love The Action
              NBA 2011-2012 All Star Game Weekend

              ALL ACTION PLAYS AND NOT FOR RECORDS WIN OR LOSE (recommended 1/4 of normal 1x)

              Play #1

              Rising Star Challenge over (271)(-120) (Locked)


              This one is going to move. Great chance for a middle if you so choose. More to come. Good luck.

              Play #2

              Dunk Contest

              Derrick Williams (+300)
              (Recommended 1/8th of your normal 1x)

              Chase Buddinger (+200)
              (Recommended 1/8th of your normal 1x)

              Our goal is to make profit and I think we accomplish that by playing both Williams and Buddinger. This dunk contest will be decided by fans on twitter so we have to put ourselves in their mindset. I think they vote for name value in Williams and novelty value in Buddinger. Williams is known from the NCAA tournament run last year and Buddinger will identify with many of pimply faced 12 year old suburban-born fans that will be voting. Williams is just as athletic as George and Evans, but may be able to have more dunking options because of his advantage in height. Buddinger is an athletic white-guy and that novelty always sparks some interest. At odds of +300 and +200, the books are giving us the ability to play both and still come out with a nice profit. I am rolling with Williams and Buddinger and I expect one of them to win and ensure us a profitable Saturday. Good luck.
              Play #3

              All-Star Game

              Western Conference ML (+160)
              (Recommended 1/4 of your normal 1x)

              For my third action play of All-Star Weekend, I am going to tail Suicidekings and play the Western Conference on the moneyline. I have been out all day with the fam having a great time and don't feel like looking into this game. I agree with SK that there is value at +160 in a game neither team will want to lose because of pride. SK is one of the best at spotting ML value in the NBA and I trust his perspective, so I am rolling with the Western Conference for 1x. Good luck.
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              • chief42
                SBR Sharp
                • 01-06-10
                • 315

                #5747
                What was that performance before tip off? Nikki Minaj is supposed to be entertainment?-was scary
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                • mikea33
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-14-11
                  • 2149

                  #5748
                  I feel so smart I locked this in before you did.

                  Makes me feel accomplished
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                  • Love The Action
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-08-10
                    • 10952

                    #5749
                    Originally posted by chief42
                    What was that performance before tip off-was scary
                    I don't know...turned on for Mary J. Blige's national anthem and it was great. I really love that she did in a traditional manner rather than trying to butcher it by changing it up. I abhor singers that destroy our national anthem by trying to deviate too much from the way it was meant to be performed. There's a few songs you stick to the script with and the national anthem is one of them.

                    Say what you want about Whitney Houston, but her version in the 92 super bowl was definitely one of the best I ever heard.

                    However, there is no doubt that the the best national anthem can be heard in Chicago at Blackhawks games where Jim Corelison's version gives you goose-bumps.

                    Oh well, enough about that, God Bless America and let's make some money
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                    • WalkingLuckCharm
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-07-10
                      • 4192

                      #5750
                      Is it just me or do they look more competitive than the past couple of seasons ?
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                      • mikea33
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-14-11
                        • 2149

                        #5751
                        They do and dont. in the halfcourt set they seem to be playing defense, but on the break no one is getting back. i think the Under should hit
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                        • Roto97
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-30-12
                          • 166

                          #5752
                          Originally posted by mikea33
                          They do and dont. in the halfcourt set they seem to be playing defense, but on the break no one is getting back. i think the Under should hit

                          Damn it...Nope. Oh well only had a small amount on it.
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                          • Love The Action
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-08-10
                            • 10952

                            #5753
                            Originally posted by Love The Action
                            NBA 2011-2012 All Star Game Weekend

                            ALL ACTION PLAYS AND NOT FOR RECORDS WIN OR LOSE (recommended 1/4 of normal 1x)

                            Play #1

                            Rising Star Challenge over (271)(-120) (Locked) WINNER


                            This one is going to move. Great chance for a middle if you so choose. More to come. Good luck.

                            Play #2

                            Dunk Contest LOSS

                            Derrick Williams (+300)
                            (Recommended 1/8th of your normal 1x)

                            Chase Buddinger (+200)
                            (Recommended 1/8th of your normal 1x)

                            Our goal is to make profit and I think we accomplish that by playing both Williams and Buddinger. This dunk contest will be decided by fans on twitter so we have to put ourselves in their mindset. I think they vote for name value in Williams and novelty value in Buddinger. Williams is known from the NCAA tournament run last year and Buddinger will identify with many of pimply faced 12 year old suburban-born fans that will be voting. Williams is just as athletic as George and Evans, but may be able to have more dunking options because of his advantage in height. Buddinger is an athletic white-guy and that novelty always sparks some interest. At odds of +300 and +200, the books are giving us the ability to play both and still come out with a nice profit. I am rolling with Williams and Buddinger and I expect one of them to win and ensure us a profitable Saturday. Good luck.

                            Play #3

                            All-Star Game

                            Western Conference ML (+160)
                            (Recommended 1/4 of your normal 1x)WINNER

                            For my third action play of All-Star Weekend, I am going to tail Suicidekings and play the Western Conference on the moneyline. I have been out all day with the fam having a great time and don't feel like looking into this game. I agree with SK that there is value at +160 in a game neither team will want to lose because of pride. SK is one of the best at spotting ML value in the NBA and I trust his perspective, so I am rolling with the Western Conference for 1x. Good luck.
                            Here's to another profitable weekend. Time to get to work on Tuesday's card. GL
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                            • BluexBlue
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-21-12
                              • 32

                              #5754
                              Thank you, LTA
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                              • suicidekings
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-23-09
                                • 9962

                                #5755
                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                Here's to another profitable weekend. Time to get to work on Tuesday's card. GL
                                It was actually so scary back in the summer when it was really looking like we might lose the entire season to the lockout. Now to apply everything we learned in the first half to making money in the second half. I'm going to be going light for the first couple of days back though. Really weird things happen in those first two or three games back after the players have had a few days off.

                                Best of luck in the second half, LTA
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                                • WVU9494
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-14-11
                                  • 333

                                  #5756
                                  What's the record for the nba season on lta's picks?
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                                  • bmur714
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 02-10-12
                                    • 189

                                    #5757
                                    Originally posted by WVU9494
                                    What's the record for the nba season on lta's picks?
                                    NBA 2011-2012 Regular Season 2/23/2012 Recap

                                    1 - 0 = +1x

                                    NBA 2011-2012 Season

                                    84 - 67 = +17.95x

                                    He did not count All Star weekend towards his record but he was 2-2 = +.25x
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                                    • jas19illini
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-27-10
                                      • 682

                                      #5758
                                      Originally posted by Love The Action
                                      However, there is no doubt that the the best national anthem can be heard in Chicago at Blackhawks games where Jim Corelison's version gives you goose-bumps.
                                      That is the God darn truth. He is amazing, especially in person.
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                                      • Trivial
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-22-09
                                        • 1328

                                        #5759
                                        LTA : just got my copy of Conquering Risk - used SBR points to buy a copy so it was "free". Great book. Thanks for the recommendation. Learning so much from the book and yourself. Really appreciate it.

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                                        • ClausensHands
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 04-01-11
                                          • 66

                                          #5760
                                          Kicking myself this morning for not pulling the trigger on the West -1.5 +180. Grats to yall who got on the ml
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                                          • Love The Action
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-08-10
                                            • 10952

                                            #5761
                                            Who are the top 5 nba chmpionship contenders?
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                                            • Love The Action
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-08-10
                                              • 10952

                                              #5762
                                              When your guys' books open up Tuesday's sides and totals, please cut and paste them here so we can get a jump on the rest of the market.

                                              Please also remember to be conservative with the amount of plays immediately following the break as you often see inconsistent play and unpredictable results the first couple days back. GL.
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                                              • BigBurk
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-25-11
                                                • 3785

                                                #5763
                                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                Who are the top 5 nba chmpionship contenders?
                                                Heat, Bulls, Thunder, In no particular order.

                                                Can't even name two others..
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                                                • pokerwhiz90
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-02-10
                                                  • 2618

                                                  #5764
                                                  call me crazy but i think the bulls are going to beat the heat in the ecf - if you guys saw the last game, rip and brewer did a terrific job on wade who went 4/16. mind you deng didn't play this game so lebron was guarded by taj gibson and even noah at times, but mostly by brewer.

                                                  lebron will end up guarding drose, so basically its a tale of two benches - which i tip my cap off to the bulls, defensively and offensively. the best defensive player on the heat bench is battier, who isn't bad, but the bulls are much more superior individually and team bench defense wise
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                                                  • R19
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 10-31-11
                                                    • 433

                                                    #5765
                                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                    Who are the top 5 nba chmpionship contenders?
                                                    Miami, Chicago, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, and Dallas. New York and both LA teams could surge and there should be some trades that stir things up before the playoffs roll around.
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                                                    • Les_Nuts
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-01-12
                                                      • 931

                                                      #5766
                                                      Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                      When your guys' books open up Tuesday's sides and totals, please cut and paste them here so we can get a jump on the rest of the market.

                                                      Please also remember to be conservative with the amount of plays immediately following the break as you often see inconsistent play and unpredictable results the first couple days back. GL.
                                                      Here are the opening sides from Pinnacle:

                                                      Tue 2/28 701 Boston Celtics -3.5 1.971
                                                      04:05 PM 702 Cleveland Cavaliers +3.5 1.935

                                                      Tue 2/28 703 Golden State Warriors +5.5 1.952
                                                      04:05 PM 704 Indiana Pacers -5.5 1.952

                                                      Tue 2/28 705 Philadelphia 76ers -3 2.000
                                                      04:35 PM 706 Detroit Pistons +3 1.909

                                                      Tue 2/28 707 Toronto Raptors +9.5 1.952
                                                      05:05 PM 708 Houston Rockets -9.5 1.952

                                                      Tue 2/28 709 New Orleans Hornets +12.5 1.952
                                                      05:05 PM 710 Chicago Bulls -12.5 1.952

                                                      Tue 2/28 711 Washington Wizards +8 1.909
                                                      05:05 PM 712 Milwaukee Bucks -8 2.000

                                                      Tue 2/28 713 New Jersey Nets +10.5 1.952
                                                      05:35 PM 714 Dallas Mavericks -10.5 1.952

                                                      Tue 2/28 715 Utah Jazz +2 2.000
                                                      07:05 PM 716 Sacramento Kings -2 1.909

                                                      Tue 2/28 717 Minnesota Timberwolves +6.5 1.952
                                                      07:35 PM 718 Los Angeles Clippers -6.5 1.952


                                                      Sorry odds are decimal, 1.952 is equivalent to -105
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                                                      • smarotta09
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-18-12
                                                        • 834

                                                        #5767
                                                        heat bulls knicks OKC spurs ... lakers could jump in there with a move and take over the knicks .. no way the bulls/knicks beat the heat in the finals...to much fire power, lebron shuts down rose, they lose .. heat/spurs in finals
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                                                        • Les_Nuts
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-01-12
                                                          • 931

                                                          #5768
                                                          A few totals aswell:

                                                          TOTAL POINTS MORE
                                                          Tue 2/28 701 Boston Celtics Over 184.5 1.952
                                                          04:05 PM 702 Cleveland Cavaliers Under 184.5 1.952

                                                          Tue 2/28 703 Golden State Warriors Over 202 1.952
                                                          04:05 PM 704 Indiana Pacers Under 202 1.952

                                                          Tue 2/28 705 Philadelphia 76ers Over 182 1.952
                                                          04:35 PM 706 Detroit Pistons Under 182 1.952

                                                          Tue 2/28 707 Toronto Raptors Over 190 2.000
                                                          05:05 PM 708 Houston Rockets Under 190 1.909

                                                          Tue 2/28 709 New Orleans Hornets Over 179 1.952
                                                          05:05 PM 710 Chicago Bulls Under 179 1.952

                                                          Tue 2/28 711 Washington Wizards Over 200 1.952
                                                          05:05 PM 712 Milwaukee Bucks Under 200 1.952
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                                                          • JM92
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-27-12
                                                            • 1140

                                                            #5769
                                                            Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                            Who are the top 5 nba chmpionship contenders?
                                                            Hmm..

                                                            1. Miami heat
                                                            2. Miami Heat
                                                            3. Miami Heat
                                                            4. Miami Heat
                                                            5... The Mavs?

                                                            Honestly, I just cant see anyone beat the Heat. Not the Bulls for sure, sorry LTA hope you still let me into your picks eheh. They're playing amazing D, runin' everyone off the court and hey, when it comes to their shady half-court sets, they got Lebron, Bosh and Wade, so they will probably be fine just like last year. And guess what, 2 other big names peoples always talk about for a title: Thunder and Bulls. They might be even worse than Miami in what concerns half-court offense, and while the Thunder have 1x1 power with Durant, westbrook and Harden their defense is not good enough. And the Bulls only have Rose.

                                                            I got a couple outsiders in the West, I really feel like the Clippers and the Spurs motivated by last years short-comings might make a big run, but in the end I have it Bulls vs Heat and Mavericks vs Thunder (if possible). Just don't see it any other way. I've actually guessed right the 08, 09, and 11' champions so. And I had Boston to take it home in 2010 and we all know how that ended up.
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                                                            • pokerwhiz90
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-02-10
                                                              • 2618

                                                              #5770
                                                              under chicago against new orleans looks like the best play on the board - chicago's defense will be rested, drose and rip are both going to play, cj watson is coming back so no more john lucas midget playing defense
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                                                              • pokerwhiz90
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-02-10
                                                                • 2618

                                                                #5771
                                                                Originally posted by JM92
                                                                Hmm..

                                                                1. Miami heat
                                                                2. Miami Heat
                                                                3. Miami Heat
                                                                4. Miami Heat
                                                                5... The Mavs?

                                                                Honestly, I just cant see anyone beat the Heat. Not the Bulls for sure, sorry LTA hope you still let me into your picks eheh. They're playing amazing D, runin' everyone off the court and hey, when it comes to their shady half-court sets, they got Lebron, Bosh and Wade, so they will probably be fine just like last year. And guess what, 2 other big names peoples always talk about for a title: Thunder and Bulls. They might be even worse than Miami in what concerns half-court offense, and while the Thunder have 1x1 power with Durant, westbrook and Harden their defense is not good enough. And the Bulls only have Rose.

                                                                I got a couple outsiders in the West, I really feel like the Clippers and the Spurs motivated by last years short-comings might make a big run, but in the end I have it Bulls vs Heat and Mavericks vs Thunder (if possible). Just don't see it any other way. I've actually guessed right the 08, 09, and 11' champions so. And I had Boston to take it home in 2010 and we all know how that ended up.
                                                                did you even watch the bulls/heat game? luol didn't play and miami had all 3 starters - it was a freakn close game - and lebron was on fire, without arguably the best lebron defender in the league..... come on man, the nba is full of professionals, and the bulls can definitely run with miami
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                                                                • NOREGRETS
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-12-10
                                                                  • 1326

                                                                  #5772
                                                                  <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" align="center"><tbody><tr><td class="LeagueTitle" colspan="6" align="left">NBA</td><td colspan="2" align="right">Lines From:02-27-2012 14:57:13</td></tr><tr class="GameHeader"><td width="3%">
                                                                  </td><td width="10%" align="left">Date</td><td width="5%">#</td><td colspan="2" width="30%" align="left">Team</td><td align="right">Spread</td><td align="right">Total</td><td align="right">M Line</td></tr><tr class="GameBanner" align="center"><td colspan="8">NBA - Feb 28</td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>701</td><td colspan="2" align="left">CELTICS (BOS)</td><td align="right">-3½-110<input name="text_" value="0_553864_-3.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o184½-110<input name="text_" value="2_553864_-184.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 6:05 PM </td><td>702</td><td colspan="2" align="left">CAVALIERS (CLE)</td><td align="right">+3½-110<input name="text_" value="1_553864_3.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u184½-110<input name="text_" value="3_553864_184.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>703</td><td colspan="2" align="left">WARRIORS (GST)</td><td align="right">+5½-110<input name="text_" value="0_553865_5.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o202-110<input name="text_" value="2_553865_-202_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 6:05 PM </td><td>704</td><td colspan="2" align="left">PACERS (IND)</td><td align="right">-5½-110<input name="text_" value="1_553865_-5.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u202-110<input name="text_" value="3_553865_202_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>705</td><td colspan="2" align="left">76ERS (PHI)</td><td align="right">-3-110<input name="text_" value="0_553866_-3_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o182-110<input name="text_" value="2_553866_-182_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 6:35 PM </td><td>706</td><td colspan="2" align="left">PISTONS (DET)</td><td align="right">+3-110<input name="text_" value="1_553866_3_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u182-110<input name="text_" value="3_553866_182_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>707</td><td colspan="2" align="left">RAPTORS (TOR)</td><td align="right">+9½-110<input name="text_" value="0_553867_9.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o190½-110<input name="text_" value="2_553867_-190.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 7:05 PM </td><td>708</td><td colspan="2" align="left">ROCKETS (HOU)</td><td align="right">-9½-110<input name="text_" value="1_553867_-9.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u190½-110<input name="text_" value="3_553867_190.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>709</td><td colspan="2" align="left">HORNETS (NO)</td><td align="right">+12½-110<input name="text_" value="0_553868_12.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o179-110<input name="text_" value="2_553868_-179_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 7:05 PM </td><td>710</td><td colspan="2" align="left">BULLS (CHI)</td><td align="right">-12½-110<input name="text_" value="1_553868_-12.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u179-110<input name="text_" value="3_553868_179_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>711</td><td colspan="2" align="left">WIZARDS (WAS)</td><td align="right">+8-110<input name="text_" value="0_553869_8_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o200-110<input name="text_" value="2_553869_-200_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 7:05 PM </td><td>712</td><td colspan="2" align="left">BUCKS (MIL)</td><td align="right">-8-110<input name="text_" value="1_553869_-8_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u200-110<input name="text_" value="3_553869_200_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>713</td><td colspan="2" align="left">NETS (NJ)</td><td align="right">+10½-110<input name="text_" value="0_553870_10.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o187½-110<input name="text_" value="2_553870_-187.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 7:35 PM </td><td>714</td><td colspan="2" align="left">MAVERICKS (DAL)</td><td align="right">-10½-110<input name="text_" value="1_553870_-10.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u187½-110<input name="text_" value="3_553870_187.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>715</td><td colspan="2" align="left">JAZZ (UTA)</td><td align="right">+2-110<input name="text_" value="0_553871_2_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o203-110<input name="text_" value="2_553871_-203_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameEven"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 9:05 PM </td><td>716</td><td colspan="2" align="left">KINGS (SAC)</td><td align="right">-2-110<input name="text_" value="1_553871_-2_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u203-110<input name="text_" value="3_553871_203_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="center"></td><td align="left">Feb 28</td><td>717</td><td colspan="2" align="left">TIMBERWOLVES (MIN)</td><td align="right">+6½-110<input name="text_" value="0_553872_6.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">o196½-110<input name="text_" value="2_553872_-196.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
                                                                  </td></tr><tr class="TrGameOdd"><td align="left">
                                                                  </td><td align="left"> 9:35 PM </td><td>718</td><td colspan="2" align="left">CLIPPERS (LAC)</td><td align="right">-6½-110<input name="text_" value="1_553872_-6.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">u196½-110<input name="text_" value="3_553872_196.5_-110" type="checkbox"></td><td align="right">
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                                                                  • bmur714
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 02-10-12
                                                                    • 189

                                                                    #5773
                                                                    <table id="tblBasketballNBAGame" class="lines" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="auto"><tbody><tr><th colspan="3" class="linesHeader" align="LEFT">5 Dimes

                                                                    NBA Basketball </th><th class="linesHeader" align="LEFT">Spread</th><th class="linesHeader" align="LEFT"> </th><th class="linesHeader" align="LEFT">Total Points</th><th colspan="2" class="linesHeader" nowrap="nowrap" align="LEFT"> </th></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>Boston Celtics at Cleveland Cavaliers</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>701 Boston Celtics</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_0" size="4" maxlength="5"> -3½ -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_0" size="4" maxlength="5"> o184½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>7:05PM </td><td> </td><td>702 Cleveland Cavaliers</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_0" size="4" maxlength="5"> +3½ -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_0" size="4" maxlength="5"> u184½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>Golden State Warriors at Indiana Pacers</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>703 Golden State Warriors</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_1" size="4" maxlength="5"> +5½ -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_1" size="4" maxlength="5"> o202 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>7:05PM </td><td> </td><td>704 Indiana Pacers</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_1" size="4" maxlength="5"> -5½ -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_1" size="4" maxlength="5"> u202 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>Philadelphia 76ers at Detroit Pistons</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>705 Philadelphia 76ers</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_2" size="4" maxlength="5"> -3 -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_2" size="4" maxlength="5"> o182 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>7:35PM </td><td> </td><td>706 Detroit Pistons</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_2" size="4" maxlength="5"> +3 -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_2" size="4" maxlength="5"> u182 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>Toronto Raptors at Houston Rockets</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>707 Toronto Raptors</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_3" size="4" maxlength="5"> +9½ -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_3" size="4" maxlength="5"> o190½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>8:05PM </td><td> </td><td>708 Houston Rockets</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_3" size="4" maxlength="5"> -9½ -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_3" size="4" maxlength="5"> u190½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>New Orleans Hornets at Chicago Bulls</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>709 New Orleans Hornets</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_4" size="4" maxlength="5"> +12½ -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_4" size="4" maxlength="5"> o179½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>8:05PM </td><td> </td><td>710 Chicago Bulls</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_4" size="4" maxlength="5"> -12½ -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_4" size="4" maxlength="5"> u179½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>Washington Wizards at Milwaukee Bucks</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>711 Washington Wizards</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_5" size="4" maxlength="5"> +7½ -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_5" size="4" maxlength="5"> o200 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>8:05PM </td><td> </td><td>712 Milwaukee Bucks</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_5" size="4" maxlength="5"> -7½ -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_5" size="4" maxlength="5"> u200 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>New Jersey Nets at Dallas Mavericks</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>713 New Jersey Nets</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_6" size="4" maxlength="5"> +10½ -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_6" size="4" maxlength="5"> o187½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>8:35PM </td><td> </td><td>714 Dallas Mavericks</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_6" size="4" maxlength="5"> -10½ -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_6" size="4" maxlength="5"> u187½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>Utah Jazz at Sacramento Kings</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>715 Utah Jazz</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_7" size="4" maxlength="5"> +2 -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_7" size="4" maxlength="5"> o203 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>10:05PM </td><td> </td><td>716 Sacramento Kings</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_7" size="4" maxlength="5"> -2 -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_7" size="4" maxlength="5"> u203 -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesSubHeader" valign="bottom"><td colspan="8"><small>Minnesota Timberwolves at Los Angeles Clippers</small></td></tr><tr class="linesRow" valign="bottom"><td>Tue 2/28</td><td> </td><td>717 Minnesota Timberwolves</td><td><input id="editx" name="S1_8" size="4" maxlength="5"> +6½ -110</td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L1_8" size="4" maxlength="5"> o196½ -110 </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="linesRowBot" valign="top"><td>10:35PM </td><td> </td><td>718 Los Angeles Clippers</td><td><input id="editx" name="S2_8" size="4" maxlength="5"> -6½ -110 </td><td> </td><td><input id="editx" name="L2_8" size="4" maxlength="5"> u196½ -110 </td><td>
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                                                                    • fitguy67
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-13-11
                                                                      • 5082

                                                                      #5774
                                                                      FWIW...


                                                                      a quik way to convert from decimal (D) to american-style (A) odds

                                                                      If D>=2.000 A=(D-1)*100 [ie. subtract one from the decimal odds and move the decimal two places to the right]

                                                                      If D < 2.000 A= -100/(D-1) [ divide 100 by "one less than the decimal odds" and put a negative sign in front]

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                                                                      Again FWIW, one extremely useful feature of the Decimal format is that

                                                                      1/D ["the reciprocal of the decimal odds"] tell us the implied win% of this bet

                                                                      eg. for plays at -130 --> D=1.7692, so probability of the bet winning, implied by the book is 56.53% [1/(1.7692)]

                                                                      meaning any win percentage above 56.53% on any number of -130 bets would beat the book, any win% less than that would lose.

                                                                      (my two cents...actually 6 sbr-points...worth for the day)

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                                                                      So if you're looking for value, estimate as accurately as possible the % of times the event you like would occur if it could be played many times in identical "parallel universes"....then take the reciprocal of your estimated win%...that's the odds that you'd expect to "break even" with...and look for an "edge" =a book's decimal odds being considerably higher than what you just calculated...

                                                                      <(your perceived win%)/(book's implied win%)-1> or equivalently [(book's decimal odds)/("your" perceived decimal odds) - 1]** tells you your expected yield if you took that bet repeatedly

                                                                      btw, the %-edge that you reckon you have on this play at this odds is roughly (but not exactly...but close enough for my purposes here) equivalent to the full "kelly criterion" optimum bet-size..a bet with a bigger % edge=>a bigger bet...so when someone savvy like LTA puts on a 1.5x or 2x play you can bet his perceived edge is 50% or 100% larger than his usual play (eg. 4.5% or 6% perceived edge vs his usual 3%-ish edge for regular plays)...whether quantified explicitly like this or not, it is such considerations that constitute differing levels of "confidence"

                                                                      Example time... you cap a game to win 60% of the time (ie. "your" implied break-even odds are thus 1/0.60=1.6667 or -150...the book odds are 1.7692 or -130 (ie. the book "figures" the probability to be 56.53%)...your perceived edge can easily be calculated as the ratio of the win% 60/56.53 less 1= a very attractive 6.1% (or alternatively, and even more handily...which is what I like about decimal odds format by 1.7692/1.6667).<you can="" also="" calculate="" this="" conveniently="" using="" decimal="" (but="" not="" american="" odds...thus,="" 1.7692="" 1.6667="" less="" 1="6.1%" again="">

                                                                      side note: a full-kelly bettor would pound this at just about 6% bank (the optimal full-kelly percentage is under most circumstances very nearly the same thing as the edge that can be calculated as a simple ratio (of win%'s or of decimal odds as above)...a more conservative long-term more "crash-resistant" approach is a fraction of this edge...eg. a half-kelly bet would be 3%of bank, quarter-kelly 1.5% of the bank for this bet

                                                                      nuff said for 6 measly sbr points (30c in "street value)...lol
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                                                                      • JM92
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-27-12
                                                                        • 1140

                                                                        #5775
                                                                        Originally posted by pokerwhiz90

                                                                        did you even watch the bulls/heat game? luol didn't play and miami had all 3 starters - it was a freakn close game - and lebron was on fire, without arguably the best lebron defender in the league..... come on man, the nba is full of professionals, and the bulls can definitely run with miami
                                                                        They lost 4-1 last season. Deng didn't play because he's got a bad injury that's not going anywhere soon. Im not saying they can't make it a series, I just don't see how they win it.
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