Testing my modification of JM and reverse

[sportsbetwin]

Reverse and V1.0 hit together Toronto v Kings

[Seth]

OK I'm back...that was a ridiculous and miserable trip from the states back to Afghanistan....5 days. Anyways, needless to say I missed out on some bets and some easy money, which sucks. But it's time to push forward. Can someone tell me what happened with the Portland play? Did it ever go to a B bet? What other plays have there been so far? If someone could give me an updated record I'll post it, if not I'll just start with the next series.

Skiv, are you sure that v2 is still solid on reverse? If so I'll implement that back into the system. I just remember that one of them performed terribly, but that was probably v3 like you said.

Minnesota plays Miami tonight, which would be an eligible play IF the first game of the series counted, but it did not due to the fact that both teams hadn't played 3 games in the season at that point.

Denver plays on Nov 6, we will watch that game and from there choose the B bet.
Boston and GS both start series on Nov 7, same applies to these both.

[Seth]

Here is what will be done for the Minnesota play:

Minnesota lost ATS+3 to Memphis which would have been the first game of the series but it didn't count, which I explained earlier. Watch the Minnesota vs Miami game. If Minnesota doesn't cover vs Miami ATS+3, then we have a play for the third game. This will be a one and done play should it occur.

[isg2010]

Glad you made it back safely.

[Pavv4]

Good to see that you are back!

[SkivChef]

Seth,
Glad to have you back! I just checked thru last yrs records and i have the following:
v1-54-1
v2-26-2
v3- got tired of counting losses, very bad!


Like i said i'm playin both. Portland pushed A bet, lost B bet. I played minnesota and they lost on A. Toronto covered last night.
Current record so far for me is 2-0 with 1 series pending.

[SkivChef]

At $100 a play, last yr v1= +$4573.90 and v2= +947.80
This is without buying any pts!

[Seth]

Thanks guys. Alright Minnesota couldn't cover last night even with the 3 extra points. So, as I stated before, I'll be playing tonight on Minnesota +3. The line's at +18 at one of my books and +17.5 at the other. Going to wait to see if it goes any higher, then buy the 3 on top of that.

Play: Minnesota +21 or higher (Risk 1.7 to win 1) Final Play of Series

[Seth]

My unit size will be $250. Largest unit I've ever wagered with on a consistent basis, but since a series loss is only 6.29 units and not 18, I can handle it. Tonight's play: Min +21 (Risk 425 to win 250). My goals this season are as follows: +40 units. If I hit this goal I will stop betting the system, can't get too greedy. My stop loss will be -12.58 units. So, supposing I lose 2 straight series right at the beginning and have made no profit before these losses, I will call it quits. I know when to cut my losses. A 40 unit take profit to a 12.5 unit stop loss doesn't look too bad to me as far as risk to reward ratio goes.

Good luck to those who play Minny tonight!

[soldier1047]

Good luck!

[Wilba]

Seth,
Glad to have you back! I just checked thru last yrs records and i have the following:
v1-54-1
v2-26-2
v3- got tired of counting losses, very bad!


Like i said i'm playin both. Portland pushed A bet, lost B bet. I played minnesota and they lost on A. Toronto covered last night.
Current record so far for me is 2-0 with 1 series pending.

Hey SkivChef, these results you post above are for the reverse system right? (ie home team covering at least one)

Also in your next post, the results are very interesting.. So (for reverse), did not buying points at all end up being more profitable than buying the points? Because the results you posted for not buying the points are very impressive. Also can you tell me what the series W/L would have been for not buying any points? (I assume the 54-1 you posted was for buying the 3 points each series)

Thanks a lot for your research!

ps by 'your next post' I meant this one:

At $100 a play, last yr v1= +$4573.90 and v2= +947.80
This is without buying any pts!

[SkivChef]

Wilba, thes records are without buying any points at all.

[Pavv4]

Steh,

Minesota does not play today!

[Pavv4]

My bad you mean with Orlando!

[Seth]

Bad loss with the Wolves..Brings my record to 0-1. Thank god I only played the last game of that series.

Record: (0-1) -$425

Will be back to post the next play when the time comes.

[Seth]

Watching the Denver vs Dallas game tonight. Whichever team doesn't cover the ATS +3 will be the play on their next game. Off to a bad 0-1 start but hoping to rebound. Be back tomorrow.

[joanapoker]

I'll be on Denver tonight! Good luck for tomorrow seth!

[dvb02]

Watching the Denver vs Dallas game tonight. Whichever team doesn't cover the ATS +3 will be the play on their next game. Off to a bad 0-1 start but hoping to rebound. Be back tomorrow.

Seth, I did this same system last year and ended up +42 units. You say you wait to see who loses then take that team for an A bet and B bet if needed. Did you add 3 points both ways, for instance, tonight i track Denver +9(+6 and buy 3pts) and Dallas -3(-6 and buy 3pts). If the game middles, then I do not play that series out. How do you do it or do you just take the JM team and add the 3 pts.

[joanapoker]

dvb02,

I'm sure that Seth will play DALLAS tomorrow since they didn't cover their spread +3

[Seth]

Seth, I did this same system last year and ended up +42 units. You say you wait to see who loses then take that team for an A bet and B bet if needed. Did you add 3 points both ways, for instance, tonight i track Denver +9(+6 and buy 3pts) and Dallas -3(-6 and buy 3pts). If the game middles, then I do not play that series out. How do you do it or do you just take the JM team and add the 3 pts.

You've got it exactly right man, I look at the first (A) game and add the 3 points to both spreads, straight and reverse. Whichever team doesn't cover, if it didn't happen to middle, will be the play on the next 2 games. So it's a 2 game chase essentially.

[Seth]

I think something wierd is about to happen with my system..My next play is going to be on DALLAS vs boston. But here's the thing; Boston has an A game today, if they don't cover, then I'd be starting a series on them on that game as well. Not sure I'm going to want to play both sides on this one. We'll see what happens in the Boston game, if beantown does cover with the 3 points then there's nothing to worry about, I'll be starting a series on OKC. I'll see how this plays out. The other series starting today that I will watch is GS @ Det, we'll see who covers that one.

[dvb02]

I think something wierd is about to happen with my system..My next play is going to be on DALLAS vs boston. But here's the thing; Boston has an A game today, if they don't cover, then I'd be starting a series on them on that game as well. Not sure I'm going to want to play both sides on this one. We'll see what happens in the Boston game, if beantown does cover with the 3 points then there's nothing to worry about, I'll be starting a series on OKC. I'll see how this plays out. The other series starting today that I will watch is GS @ Det, we'll see who covers that one.

oh, i actually do my system a little different. i would not be taking dallas vs boston. i take the other 2 teams that denver was going to be playing in the JM chase (the 2 home teams) which are chicago and indiana.

[Seth]

oh, i actually do my system a little different. i would not be taking dallas vs boston. i take the other 2 teams that denver was going to be playing in the JM chase (the 2 home teams) which are chicago and indiana.

I got confused for some reason, of course I'll be playing the other two home teams that Denver will be playing, that's what the reverse system is lol, was a bit off there. Thanks for clearing that up dvb.

[dvb02]

I got confused for some reason, of course I'll be playing the other two home teams that Denver will be playing, that's what the reverse system is lol, was a bit off there. Thanks for clearing that up dvb.

Glad to hear we do the same system. Potentially 3 plays for tomorrow!

[stickbit]

Seth - great system modification! Question... Dallas is only on a 2 game homestand so you aren't planning on chasing them at home for 1 more game are you?

[scottel]

try this as I tweaked it myself........bet ON +500 at time of opp conf rd trip....if lose gm1 bet gm2 ....if both 1 and 2 lose then stop and take the loss...3 units...1 unit on gm1 and 2 on gm2.....do NOT buy points...also play AGAINST under 500 on rd trip, oppp conf.....Im 2-1 this yr so far with GST a gm1 play tonight over DET....has done well the last 2 yrs..gm1 79-45 -2 gm2 32-15 are last 2 yrs results....
the road trip must be 3 game also minimum

[Seth]

Seth - great system modification! Question... Dallas is only on a 2 game homestand so you aren't planning on chasing them at home for 1 more game are you?

Not playing on Dallas man, I'll be playing on the team Against Denver, that is what the reverse system is. Hopefully I cleared that up for you.

[Seth]

try this as I tweaked it myself........bet ON +500 at time of opp conf rd trip....if lose gm1 bet gm2 ....if both 1 and 2 lose then stop and take the loss...3 units...1 unit on gm1 and 2 on gm2.....do NOT buy points...also play AGAINST under 500 on rd trip, oppp conf.....Im 2-1 this yr so far with GST a gm1 play tonight over DET....has done well the last 2 yrs..gm1 79-45 -2 gm2 32-15 are last 2 yrs results....
the road trip must be 3 game also minimum

Hey appreciate the system man, looks like it netted you about 66 units last year, and a 3 unit loss isn't bad at all for a series loss. Think I might start doing this along with the system I've got going, you have a thread for this?

[Seth]

OK, I'm deciding to run 2 systems now, day by day I will post the qualifying plays under the system they fall under. Both systems are 2 game chases. My modified system is a 3 point buy, and the one Scottel introduced is a no buy system. So, here they are for November 8:

System 1:
(B)GS +5 (-170)
(A)CHI ML (No line yet) **Against Denver**
(A) DAL ML (No line yet) **Against Boston** (I'm sure the ML will be cheaper than -170, that's why I put ML)

System 2:
(B)GS +2 (-110)

[Seth]

Side note, I'm dropping my unit to $200 from $250, just cuz I'll have 2 systems running from here on out.

[dvb02]

try this as I tweaked it myself........bet ON +500 at time of opp conf rd trip....if lose gm1 bet gm2 ....if both 1 and 2 lose then stop and take the loss...3 units...1 unit on gm1 and 2 on gm2.....do NOT buy points...also play AGAINST under 500 on rd trip, oppp conf.....Im 2-1 this yr so far with GST a gm1 play tonight over DET....has done well the last 2 yrs..gm1 79-45 -2 gm2 32-15 are last 2 yrs results.... the road trip must be 3 game also minimum

Scottel (or Seth), if I understand correctly, you are using JM's Version 1 schedule, except that you only play the A and possibly B bets, buy no points, and go against JM's team if there record is under 500% at the time of the series. Is that correct?

If so, then I assume you won the Portland A bet, Lost the Sacramento A bet(against Toronto b/c less than 500%), then won the Utah B bet(against Toronto) thereby making your record 2-1. Is this also correct. I may follow this system also.

[makemerich]

pau gasol is so sick..

[Seth]

Scottel (or Seth), if I understand correctly, you are using JM's Version 1 schedule, except that you only play the A and possibly B bets, buy no points, and go against JM's team if there record is under 500% at the time of the series. Is that correct?

If so, then I assume you won the Portland A bet, Lost the Sacramento A bet(against Toronto b/c less than 500%), then won the Utah B bet(against Toronto) thereby making your record 2-1. Is this also correct. I may follow this system also.

To my knowledge, you've got it correct. That's the way I will be playing it. Those plays will be listed under system 2 when I post them.

[dvb02]

To my knowledge, you've got it correct. That's the way I will be playing it. Those plays will be listed under system 2 when I post them.

OK, I am with you on system 2 also.

[dvb02]

To my knowledge, you've got it correct. That's the way I will be playing it. Those plays will be listed under system 2 when I post them.

Out of curiosity, what are you going to do when the team is exactly 500% like Utah tomorrow night?