John Morrison 2010 NBA

[jphil]

i find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone would need to ask others to clarify system bets, all you have to do is look them up on the teams webpage. Why are you asking for clarification on system bets if you already know what they are?

I have had a lot of people tell me that they really appreciated the posts that I have made, but in light of you apparently not liking me posting, from this point onwards I will not post unless specifically requested by someone else. If I am specifically requested by someone else to post I will respond, apart from that I will not post at all.

Well, you, & the few credible, experienced, & knowledgeable others, are now officially, specifically, being requested by someone else to post/respond whenever & however ya choose(while always being friendly & respectful in the process, of course).

If need be, I may just have to post on a daily basis(20 posts per page if need be) the updated, upcoming, plays(w/filters), along w/ the very latest e-mails from GOD himself, in order for others to have the very latest & greatest up to date info, & never again have their comfort zones disrupted, by ever having to leave the page they're on.

HERE'S A TIP FOR THOSE IN CRISIS: I'ts easy as pie. While scrolling QUICKLY through each page, one is immediately able to distinguish between the extra long, boring, paragraphs that may happen to contain one's pretty experienced, & tested, knowledge; COMPARED to the short, dinky, 4 lines of upcoming plays(filters)/e-mails for the day/days ahead. At this pt. you scroll QUICKLY through the extra long paragraphs, in order to get to the little info. that you may need(believe me, if i can do it, anyone can). And also remember to set your scroller on FAST mode. If at any pt. in time, one may get stuck, no problem, just go back to pg. 1, & start all over again. This may give ya the extra practice that you'll need to accomplish this feat.


P.S. Here's a test! Are the lakers an off. v1 (B bet) tomorrow at 1 pm (est)?

[atari5200]

alright. let's talk about the plays.

orlando -265. -6.5 on pinny. how many people would consider the bulshit official method of betting the ML on favs and keeping it safe?

lakers should come in around -7-8. Both MLs will be close.

please don't state the obvious that it's a lot of juice. I just want to know your choice and other insights on these games in front of us.

[ghislaine]

Well Boston cleared okay, for me Minnesota and Cleveland are B bets...
Buuuuut, at least another series did not go to C.
Could this be a sign of things looking up

[jphil]

alright. let's talk about the plays.

orlando -265. -6.5 on pinny. how many people would consider the bulshit official method of betting the ML on favs and keeping it safe?

lakers should come in around -7-8. Both MLs will be close.

please don't state the obvious that it's a lot of juice. I just want to know your choice and other insights on these games in front of us.

that's a tough call vs. the clipps although considering the way things have been going lately, it wouldn't kill me to play ml, on a C bet, even w/ it being a B bet for me. my ml isn't avail. currently on betf'us, so i'll have to see if that's at -650 tomorrow or not. i'll then buy 3 if it is.

i'm on the lakers the next 2 gms. regardless. and those lines aren't up at all yet.


no other insights on the games(i'll use den. as an example w/ the 1 man team thingy).

[jmjj]

alright. let's talk about the plays.

orlando -265. -6.5 on pinny. how many people would consider the bulshit official method of betting the ML on favs and keeping it safe?

lakers should come in around -7-8. Both MLs will be close.

please don't state the obvious that it's a lot of juice. I just want to know your choice and other insights on these games in front of us.

according to what Johns says to do is to take the ML but he also says u can take the spreads but if we win by 2 and u get hosed by taking spread he will say its a win and u will lose just be weary of that is all atari as Im sure u remember what happened a yr ago nearly exactly

[jphil]

Play the first four games of a team playing on a road series of at least 4 games. The bets are only A, B, C, and D. No E, F, G, H, etc. But as I said, I only play the C bets on teams playing exactly 3 road games and the D bets on teams playing at least 4 road games.

WOW! stanley, i gotta admit, ya just floored me. I thought i was seeing things from your post 2273. About a month ago when ya were last around, i never remember ya mentioning about YOURSELF only playin the last game of either the 3 or 4 gm. series that qualify(C or D). That puts a different light on things. And if i'm wrong then please feel free to go up one side of me & down the other. I now know that's how you play 'em, but my question is, would someone who's chasin' all 3 or 4 gm. series that qualify have any more benefit by playin 'em that way, or your way? I'd like to think that the latter may be true. Otherwise maybe you'd be playin the A & B's(or C's) also, if their wins were more profitable. Yes? And also, now you're saying to wait for a 4 gm. NHL series, & a 3gm. NBA series to pop up when they qualify? fair enough. here's my suggestion, hang around a little more this time, and at least give this yr's. current stats, & maybe slip in a few plays here & there when they happen to come up? Do you by any chance have another thread somewhere that one could participate in, so as not to confuse & irritate others? If not, no big deal, just post on here. nobody seemed to have had a problem the last several times ya posted anyways. It'll be our little secret.


i like your idea w/ waitin for 4 gms. losing straight up & ats in football by the way. I may even stretch it to 5.

[J.M. Disciple]

As wilba Said in another post dont play A but play b and C and D under very special circumstances. A wins 61% of the time and with -170 odds that makes it a losing bet long run and -170 will be the best odds you will get on any site. I'm going to take Wilba's advice and never risk more then 25% of my bankroll on any series. What Wilba Does is bet 6.5% of his BR on B and 18.5 on C wagers. This covers any loss on B and shows a good profit. It is profitable to bet on B wagers still cause they win 67% of the time and C wagers as Wilba said no matter how bad they look are extremely profitable as well winning nearly 81%.

Lakers have been playing some really close games, for example, when they played the clippers Fisher hit a buzzer beater to win by 1pt. Thats why ML is correct play some times. If you choose the spread, buy 3pts, but do not continue with the series if ML wins and Spread loses.

With that said the following bets for tomorrow are:
Cleveland +15.5 B bet vs OKC: I really like this bet 1) it is a "B" bet. 2) It should qualify as a TPS play as well. And sense Double digit underdogs usually cover the spread just adds more to it.

*Lakers are not a played because they covered vs the clippers on A wager. It would be a good bet to make, but it does not count towards the record or the system. NJN may be a TPS paly tomorrow though, so look out for that.

Orlando C bet vs Clippers (ML or -3.5): Lock and load on this one. ML will be around -330 so 1:3 on your money but is very likely to cover. As wilba said C bets win around 80% of the time based on spread not including bets you make on the money line. There for i think long run it will be best to take the spread since ML will only increase the win% by like 1 or 2% and ML will increase the juice a ton, so more +EV to take the spread long run.

ORL -3.5 C bet! Risking 10 units (-170 @ betus)
Cleveland +15.5 B bet. Risking 5 units (-170 @ betus)

[J.M. Disciple]

Also I will like to add to my post you must buy 3pts for those of you who are new to the forum and think the team will likely cover the spread anyways, so risking the extra juice is not necessary. It has already been back tested and buying 3pts confirms it. You will lose money long run if you do not buy 3pts.

[dukipl]

JM bets for tonight:
v1 Orlando [c bet] vs. LAC (ML play, poor odd)
v1 LAL [b bet] vs. NY Nets (probably ML play)
v2 Cleveland [b bet] vs. OCT (cavs +15,5 after buying points)

[J.M. Disciple]

NBA bets:
Philly +1 .............................. NOH is struggling and Philly seems to be playing pretty well, so go for the under dog here.

PHilly / NOH under 187.5 .........Under keeps hitting for NOH, so might as well keep playing it.

Portland +8 ...........................On a winning streak as well as SAS, however Portland has beat the spurs a couple of times in a and play some close games. +8 is a lot of points to give up vs portland.

Portland / sas over 193............Both teams scoring well over 100 pts a game in their last few games.

ML is not up yet, but looking for a ML Parlay with LAL, OKC, and ORL tomorrow. Hopefully we get close to even money on it, but depends on the line.

Record only started tracking since yesterday 4w -0 push - 4 loss ( i am well above 50% in none tracked games though)

NFL:
Packers -6.5
ATL -7
PAts -2
Cinci +8.5

NFL Parlay ML: SD, PIts, GB, & ATL (optional if you want to add Saints to the spread but be weary) You get 1.68 : 1 on your money with these 4 teams who are very good going against sub .500 teams besides KC which is 8-4, but their QB is out this game.

[J.M. Disciple]

JM bets for tonight:
v1 Orlando [c bet] vs. LAC (ML play, poor odd)
v1 LAL [b bet] vs. NY Nets (probably ML play)
v2 Cleveland [b bet] vs. OCT (cavs +15,5 after buying points)

As I stated the rules in the system say not to bet on lakers because they covered the A wager with the ML filter. If you want to play it great, but list it as your own bet, not a system bet.

[atari5200]

the only way the ML is gonna make sense or value is by parlaying the magic and lakers together. this is obviously a personal play and wouldn't count towards the system.

otherwise both teams on the spread, magic could hopefully win by a lot but judging their recent effort plus the way the clips are battling close games this spread could be dangerous. Lakers are keeping games too close for comfort. I personally think there will be 2 blowout games regardless. Still thinking about a personal ML parlay.

[Stevier100]

We split on the [C] wagers last time. No worries,
because we are for sure going to cash in on this upcoming one!

Go to the link below to see our upcoming system bet(s):

http://www.sportsbettingchamp.com/286437

[Kev the Brit]

dukipl:

JM bets for tonight:
v1 Orlando [c bet] vs. LAC (ML play, poor odd)
v1 LAL [b bet] vs. NY Nets (probably ML play)
v2 Cleveland [b bet] vs. OCT (cavs +15,5 after buying points)

Note well from JM Disciple:

As I stated the rules in the system say not to bet on lakers because they covered the A wager with the ML filter. If you want to play it great, but list it as your own bet, not a system bet.

Absolutely right. I saw dukipl's post and I then wasted my time checking out the records to find that LAL won on the ML on an A Bet on Wed night. dukipl, get with the programme.

Kev the enforcer

[lawalahmed]

My only problem now is when is John Morrison going to accept system lost because his trying to wave real system lost ( Ver.1 in Detroit series lost) in his last E-mail (today) he did not even mention lost series... I wish i can edit his web site and update lost series....who will help me do that???

[TheBettingMan]

What was the spread on the Denver/Toronto game Friday? It was a C bet on Denver but I don't recall the spread. Denver won by 7 points. Was this one a legitimate C bet system win?

[krzychu78]

What was the spread on the Denver/Toronto game Friday? It was a C bet on Denver but I don't recall the spread. Denver won by 7 points. Was this one a legitimate C bet system win?

Spread on Denver has been changing from early -2.5 to +1.5 before the game has started.
It was not an official C bet because of absence of Melo in B game and C game.

[Kev the Brit]

Denver's best player was taken off the team, due to injury, just before the B bet (a lot of JM players had already commited to the B bet)and he didn't play for the C Bet. Therefore, strictly speaking, Denver was not a system play. However, some of us played the C Bet. I believe the spread was -2

[TheBettingMan]

Spread on Denver has been changing from early -2.5 to +1.5 before the game has started. It was not an official C bet because of absence of Melo in B game and C game.

Denver's best player was taken off the team, due to injury, just before the B bet (a lot of JM players had already commited to the B bet)and he didn't play for the C Bet. Therefore, strictly speaking, Denver was not a system play. However, some of us played the C Bet. I believe the spread was -2

Well, John said "We split on the [C] wagers last time" so he's taking it as a system win. If it was a loss, he'd probably would said that it wasn't a legitimate system bet.

[knugen]

Do u guys play orl on ML? Really bad odds

[Wilba]

Well, you, & the few credible, experienced, & knowledgeable others, are now officially, specifically, being requested by someone else to post/respond whenever & however ya choose(while always being friendly & respectful in the process, of course).

If need be, I may just have to post on a daily basis(20 posts per page if need be) the updated, upcoming, plays(w/filters), along w/ the very latest e-mails from GOD himself, in order for others to have the very latest & greatest up to date info, & never again have their comfort zones disrupted, by ever having to leave the page they're on.

HERE'S A TIP FOR THOSE IN CRISIS: I'ts easy as pie. While scrolling QUICKLY through each page, one is immediately able to distinguish between the extra long, boring, paragraphs that may happen to contain one's pretty experienced, & tested, knowledge; COMPARED to the short, dinky, 4 lines of upcoming plays(filters)/e-mails for the day/days ahead. At this pt. you scroll QUICKLY through the extra long paragraphs, in order to get to the little info. that you may need(believe me, if i can do it, anyone can). And also remember to set your scroller on FAST mode. If at any pt. in time, one may get stuck, no problem, just go back to pg. 1, & start all over again. This may give ya the extra practice that you'll need to accomplish this feat.


P.S. Here's a test! Are the lakers an off. v1 (B bet) tomorrow at 1 pm (est)?

I believe there is an ignore function too!

good on ya Jphil

[atari5200]

JM set his official bets with the ML on favs less than a year ago. This thread supports the original system because chasing a C bet on the ML is ridiculous.

At least this is what i thought. if people here want to say that the lakers series should not be a play and we should list it as a personal play then i guess you (JM disciple, Kev) will be taking the magic on the ML.

if this reasoning is true then i guess we're chasing MLs favs from now on and the overall value of each those bets will become terrible.

[BigMoney888]

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[GGPLAYER]

alright. let's talk about the plays.

orlando -265. -6.5 on pinny. how many people would consider the bulshit official method of betting the ML on favs and keeping it safe?

lakers should come in around -7-8. Both MLs will be close.

please don't state the obvious that it's a lot of juice. I just want to know your choice and other insights on these games in front of us.

No way I would play the ML. Some people are saying the Lakers series is over...don't agree. Myself, Wilba and others have stated that ML rule was just another way JM covered his ass last year when a series lost. I played Bos last night and they covered with ease. Some people argued that series was over. Not in my eyes. Acutally I see the Lakers a C bet today since they did not cover over the Clips and lost to the Bulls. Start throwing down -300 on B and C bets and you'll be done with these system before it even gets going.

[million2one]

Good luck all,

The line on the Magic is a joke. The books are fukking with this hard.

[krzychu78]

JM's NBA V3 system:
12/11/2010 Minnesota @ Chicago - V3, A bet - LOSS

V3 record so far (finished series): 17-1
(A): 12-6
(B): 5-1
(C): 0-1

Next V3 plays:
12/14/2010 Minnesota @ Golden State - V3, B bet
12/14/2010 Sacramento @ Houston - V3, A bet

[Wilba]

No way I would play the ML. Some people are saying the Lakers series is over...don't agree. Myself, Wilba and others have stated that ML rule was just another way JM covered his ass last year when a series lost. I played Bos last night and they covered with ease. Some people argued that series was over. Not in my eyes. Acutally I see the Lakers a C bet today since they did not cover over the Clips and lost to the Bulls. Start throwing down -300 on B and C bets and you'll be done with these system before it even gets going.

Could not have said it better myself. All of the backtesting had no ML filters taken into account (or any filter at all) so I am confident that those statistics will be replicated (long term) without using a JM loss-cover-up ML filter.

[atari5200]

Could not have said it better myself. All of the backtesting had no ML filters taken into account (or any filter at all) so I am confident that those statistics will be replicated (long term) without using a JM loss-cover-up ML filter.

we're in agreement then. This thread supports the original system. JM disciple and Kev the brit are big contributors to this thread but if they wanna throw the lakers series out and play the spread on the magic, then it doesn't make any sense to me.

good luck everyone.

[jmjj]

Good luck all,

The line on the Magic is a joke. The books are fukking with this hard.

it opened last night at -275 then jumps to -400 so cute lameo linesmakers have no clue didnt know if u guys know another extra tip for u but since we are all talking about offshore lines that they all use don best to get there lines for the most part they do

[Stanley77]

WOW! stanley, i gotta admit, ya just floored me. I thought i was seeing things from your post 2273. About a month ago when ya were last around, i never remember ya mentioning about YOURSELF only playin the last game of either the 3 or 4 gm. series that qualify(C or D). That puts a different light on things. And if i'm wrong then please feel free to go up one side of me & down the other. I now know that's how you play 'em, but my question is, would someone who's chasin' all 3 or 4 gm. series that qualify have any more benefit by playin 'em that way, or your way? I'd like to think that the latter may be true. Otherwise maybe you'd be playin the A & B's(or C's) also, if their wins were more profitable. Yes? And also, now you're saying to wait for a 4 gm. NHL series, & a 3gm. NBA series to pop up when they qualify? fair enough. here's my suggestion, hang around a little more this time, and at least give this yr's. current stats, & maybe slip in a few plays here & there when they happen to come up? Do you by any chance have another thread somewhere that one could participate in, so as not to confuse & irritate others? If not, no big deal, just post on here. nobody seemed to have had a problem the last several times ya posted anyways. It'll be our little secret.


i like your idea w/ waitin for 4 gms. losing straight up & ats in football by the way. I may even stretch it to 5.

I'm sorry that I didn't mention earlier about playing C bets on a 3-game series and D bets on a 4-game series. I believe it's good to play that way in order to eliminate losses, but the problem is that those types of games don't happen too often.

I also forgot to mention that if a team loses a 3-game series and has another road series for at least 3 games within a month after that, it's better to ride starting on the B bet. This works for both NBA and NHL.

As for NFL betting, it's good to bet against teams that are on a 4-game ATS winning streak and to bet on teams that are on a 4-game ATS losing streak. This is a 4-game progression. I got that idea from Coach Thompson from www.nflbettingsystem.com. I found out that you can lose with the 4-game ATS winning streak strategy if a team is playing their first 8 games before a bye week. The 2007 New England Patriots are an example of a loss using this strategy. As for the 4-game ATS losing streak strategy, you can lose if a team is playing their last 8 games after a bye week. The 2003 New York Giants are an example of a loss using this strategy.

[mattd83]

damn...barely won that laker game. nice way to start the day though

[J.M. Disciple]

I think you misunderstood what i said Atari. i said if the ML covers! which it did for the lakers on A the series is over! If you want to continue with the series because you lost A after buying 3pts you can, but you should not count it towards the system.

I agree that you should play the spread, but dont count it as a loss for the system because of the ML filter. I believe if you lose at the spread and ML covers the rest of your series gets canceled or becomes a personal chase.

I am playing ORL at -3.5 cause i got my bet in earlier when it was -6.5.

*I added a last minute parlay to my own bets after GB loss of Chargers, Patriots, Saints, Thunder, Magic. Hopefully this wins and covers my GB loss. Arron rodgers got a concusion so GB lost.

My bets are 3-3 so far
*also i missed out of my NBA parlay i said i was going to do because i woke up late. ill update my record tonight.

GL all on ORL -3.5 and Cleveland +15.5 tonight.

[mtbaker]

good luck

[dukipl]

YO!

Yo dude don't tell me what is wrong and what is wright cause I know better!
I stated what the plays is. It was a V1 play on LAL and thats it. They won on B bet.
What you played was the v2 version. If you dont like my post so dont read them simple

dukipl:
Note well from JM Disciple:


Absolutely right. I saw dukipl's post and I then wasted my time checking out the records to find that LAL won on the ML on an A Bet on Wed night. dukipl, get with the programme.

Kev the enforcer

[ghislaine]

play nice boys

(haha just like at the office... )