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  • Andy3568
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-17-10
    • 615

    #2066
    Originally posted by Aroostika
    I really wish I would have known about Carmelo Anthony's injury a bit sooner. What a bummer. I have 2 questions: since Anthony was out today, will be bet on tomorrow's game, if he is back in? My second question: how long before a game begins do books begin to lock up?
    I would say yes to the first question. If you bet on this and it was indeed a "B" loss, if Anthony is playing against the Raptors, I would bet them. But that's just me.

    As for when the books close out bets, I would say that it depends on the books. I would guess that some books keep them open right up until the start of the game.
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    • JW Cash
      SBR MVP
      • 12-31-08
      • 4453

      #2067
      Originally posted by mattd83
      So do we quadruple up on a c bet for the pistons?



      Yea ...thats it....

      Bet your ENTIRE bankroll on the C BET for the Pistons...

      Shoot for the moon.......go for the gusto......

      ...if not NOW......then WHEN........

      Sell everything you have and put it on the C BET....

      And make sure you put your wager in at BetUS...........





      But beware....a word of caution.....

      Andy says " the entire system is falling apart "........
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      • stevex
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 05-02-10
        • 5122

        #2068
        The [C] bets will come through folks, no worries.
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        • luzviminda
          SBR Rookie
          • 12-05-10
          • 32

          #2069
          Originally posted by Andy3568
          Of course Denver lost. And Detroit is playing like crap too. The entire system is falling apart. And I don't want to hear that the Denver game was a no-play. Anthony wasn't listed as injured until an hour before the game.

          Denver will probably be a no-play on Friday if Anthony is still out, so at least there will only be one "C" bet.

          I bet you that the Association of Bookies informed them that there are so many
          bet for the Nuggets and ask Anthony to not play.
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          • jmjj
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-17-10
            • 172

            #2070
            Originally posted by luzviminda
            I bet you that the Association of Bookies informed them that there are so many
            bet for the Nuggets and ask Anthony to not play.
            LOL that was pretty funny but whats going to be even funnier is the email John sends out tonight explaining how he will tell us what the next time is in the system bets for this it ought to be semi epic one thats for sure lol
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            • rustycapps
              SBR High Roller
              • 08-25-10
              • 122

              #2071
              STUPID IS, WHAT STUPID DOES !!!!!!!!!! The "boys" at this forum never cease to amaze me !!!!!!!! Pardon me,carry on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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              • mattd83
                SBR Hustler
                • 01-22-09
                • 84

                #2072
                Originally posted by JW Cash
                Yea ...thats it....

                Bet your ENTIRE bankroll on the C BET for the Pistons...

                Shoot for the moon.......go for the gusto......

                ...if not NOW......then WHEN........

                Sell everything you have and put it on the C BET....

                And make sure you put your wager in at BetUS...........





                But beware....a word of caution.....

                Andy says " the entire system is falling apart "........
                funny guy
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                • Aroostika
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 12-04-10
                  • 13

                  #2073
                  Originally posted by JW Cash
                  Yea ...thats it....

                  Bet your ENTIRE bankroll on the C BET for the Pistons...

                  Shoot for the moon.......go for the gusto......

                  ...if not NOW......then WHEN........

                  Sell everything you have and put it on the C BET....

                  And make sure you put your wager in at BetUS...........





                  But beware....a word of caution.....

                  Andy says " the entire system is falling apart "........
                  I completely agree. I will be taking out a second mortgage tomorrow so that I can go nuts on the pistons tomorrow.
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                  • luzviminda
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 12-05-10
                    • 32

                    #2074
                    Denver (+7) vs Boston loss 89-105 V1-B fool of me betting 3 hours before knowing that Anthony is not playing.
                    Detroit (+9) vs New Orleans loss 74-93 V1-B
                    Miami (+1) vs Utah won 94-85 V1-A consider a loss because somebody here encourage me not to bet because he said
                    it is not play.
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                    • Mashaka
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 06-03-09
                      • 237

                      #2075
                      Originally posted by Aroostika
                      I completely agree. I will be taking out a second mortgage tomorrow so that I can go nuts on the pistons tomorrow.
                      i can guarantee detroit wont lose tomorrow. In fact I'm willing to cover all your loses if detroit loses tomorrow. No questions asked. I promise.
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                      • jmjj
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 11-17-10
                        • 172

                        #2076
                        Originally posted by Mashaka
                        i can guarantee detroit wont lose tomorrow. In fact I'm willing to cover all your loses if detroit loses tomorrow. No questions asked. I promise.
                        I agree the Pistons will not lose tomm considering they do not play so I will take that as a system play good job lol
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                        • Wilba
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-29-10
                          • 702

                          #2077
                          Originally posted by BettingTime
                          Hey Wilba. I'm interested in the numbers of it all just like you are.

                          I was wondering how you did your research aka how did you find the pointspreads offered by online betting sites for the last 5 years?

                          Also, do you any documents to backup your research? I would love the excel file, or whatever type of file it is.

                          Thanks Wilba - You're making this a better forum. And I want to help.
                          Well thanks for your kind comments. I use covers.com for NBA backtesting, it is a very good site and you can backtest many other sports with this also. It allows you to backtest every game in NBA plus other sports for the past 20 years. The link for the NBA tems backtest part of the page is covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/teams.html

                          and yes of course I have a documents with all my research, just an excel document, and yes I am happy to send this to you if you PM me your email address. I warn you though that it is a massive document that I have compiled over 4 years, and I would estimate 2000 hours work have gone into it. As well as NBA it has MLB, NHL, AFL, NRL (australian rugby league) and soccer research in it.

                          In terms of NHL and NBA the most valuable things I have ever turned up is that double digit underdogs win close to 60% of the time in NBA (buying no points! just playing the spread) and hence I play every double digit dog in NBA, regardless of how bad the team is/how good the team they are facing, for 2% of my bankroll. Makes good money every single season with no chase or excessive risk. Another of the most valuable things I found is that playing every NHL team which is plus 0.500 after 3 losses is very profitable. Again no chase or capping just flat bet every time this situation comes up. For MLB an absolute goldmine is playing the under on every MLB team for which their last 5 games have gone under. If/When an MLB reaches 8 consecutive games on the under, the under is an even better play from there (off the top of my head it hits close to 70% after 8 consecutive unders but I would have to confirm that.) At least 1-2 times a season you get MLB teams hitting 15-16 straight unders. Again no capping or chasing for either of these three, I just play every time the situation occurs and all 3 are brilliant money makers. They are the best 3 for those 3 sports that I have ever found.
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                          • Wilba
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-29-10
                            • 702

                            #2078
                            Originally posted by jmjj
                            no bro wrong I cant go back and look at unreasonable timeframes I go back to when I bought it and first started playing it so my research as you say is not ill found or anything you supposedly say and especially dont know anything about so if you bought the v1 system back in 2008 like I did and started to follow it from there and u bought the others as he released them last yr v1.0 (there champion of info that you think you are) is the only one that HAS NOT lost PERIOD you understand?

                            geez I dont care about what happened in 2004 or 2005 most people on this thread didnt have the system then or know who the hell John was so that data or supposed backtracking is pointless true last yr v2 didnt lose but I dont know how many times v3 lost last season but I know when I bought it within a mos it lost at the end of the season and thats enough for me if you wanna keep on losing and throwing out pointless propaganda thats up to you but dont think many will bite especially those who just recently bought and only concerned about the now not 6 yrs ago

                            remember kids John is only trying to squeeze as much milk out of the tit as possible to sell you on things that may or may not work yr after yr so if it looks cool then maybe not so much just like all of his v2 and beyond stuff on all sports such as nhl v2.0?

                            for those of you who bought that know what Im talking about so I dont need to say anything on that system just to make sure wilbo that u understand what I am talking about and saying before you try to criticize an older post of mine that u had to go backtrack and read to do so b/c that is simply unfair to me especially right after I just complimented and agreed with you on a previous post where u pointed out another morons comments on here and then u try to bash me? like really? and then some clown gives you pts for it not happening bro not on my watch it wont
                            Well I don't understand parts of what you say as some of it does not make sense to me. But I can say that my intention was definitely not to 'bash' you and Im sorry if you feel that's what I was trying to do, I wasnt. All I was trying to do was to help people by providing them with very relevant information which may affect the decisions that they made.

                            And Im sorry as I really am not trying to be a dick but your above comment about how V1 is better coz the 'now' is the only relevant thing - well V1 is actually the WORST system 'in the now'. Last year V1 went 47-2, but V2 went 26-0 and V3 went 67-2. (that was only last year though, V1 better than V3 in ling run) So as I said Im really not trying to be a dick but to help you. Dont you find this info useful? You clearly had a misguided opinion about the effectiveness of the system variants, and the info that I just provided clearly shows otherwise. It is people like you that I was trying to help with my post. I mean, it is not like I get anything out of spending my time posting info I already have on this forum. And I know that at least some people do really appreciate it, coz I have had PM's saying that they do. If I came across as a dick in my other post again im sorry as that was not what I was trying to do.

                            and ps I felt really bad after I posted my post and saw that you had done a nice post to me in the process of when I was writing my post. If I could write it again I still would post the info but I would try to do it more nicely. Hope no hard feelings thats not what i wanted
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                            • Wilba
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-29-10
                              • 702

                              #2079
                              Originally posted by SolidDala
                              Wilba,

                              Weren't OKC a V2 loss in 05-06 season. Yes it has been solid last 5y, but in 02/03 season it suffered 4 losses. I think the best one is hands down V1, my reasoning:

                              It suffers 1-2 losses each season and you pretty much know what to except. You also have way more plays then the rest given you time to recoup a loss. Furthermore V2 maybe sounds like the best one, but one can not ignore that 02/03 season, and you then have the fact that its just around 25 plays a season.
                              yes absolutely you are right that V2 had one loss in 05-06. I posted 0 loss since 5 years ago which to me meant 06/07/08/09/10 (5 years). Thats what I meant by 'last 5 years' when I said it. (2004 was 6 years ago the way I see it)

                              And yes I absolutely agree with everything that you are saying - IMO V1 definitely the best, and I play V1 for more than I play any of the other versions for, I play V2 for 75% of what I play V1 for, and V3 for half of what I play V1 for. I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that V1 is the best system out of the three - off the top of my head there has never been a year with more than 2 V1 losses, and as you say V2 in 02/03 has quite a few losses, and V3 in 2005/2006 went a horrible 63-7! So yes I could not agree more - I never implied that V1 was not the best system, I only said that V2 and V3 are also profitable. 1/10 years they lose, but 9/10 years they win, and long term profitability is really all that matters to me, and all 3 systems make good money over last ten years, so to me all 3 worth playing!
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                              • Wilba
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-29-10
                                • 702

                                #2080
                                Originally posted by dlunc3
                                Thanks this is great info!
                                Is this research based on V1, V2, and V3? Or just V1?
                                why thankyou, and it was for all versions (although V1 by itself is very close to these results also)
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                                • Wilba
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-29-10
                                  • 702

                                  #2081
                                  Originally posted by jmjj
                                  there it is someone already stepped up and agreed before my previous response back was officially posted good job sir

                                  theres someone who gets it
                                  the post you were referring to did not agree with your previous post. Your previous post said that V2 and V3 were shit and that they were not worth playing, which is untrue

                                  the post that you refer to in this quote said that V1 was BETTER than V2/V3 (not that V2/V3 were shit and not worth playing). which is completely true

                                  I completely agree that V1 is the best one of the three. How does this mean that V2/V3 do not make money long run also?
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                                  • dukipl
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 04-08-09
                                    • 376

                                    #2082
                                    Miami [a bet] win

                                    Next JM V1 bets:
                                    Detroit [c bet] vs. Minnesota
                                    Orlando [a bet] vs. Portland (tonight)
                                    Denver [c bet] vs. Toronto

                                    Note: C.Anthony wasn't playing against Boston, so that means this was a no play, unlucky for me i placed my bet earlier on that one... If Melo won't play against Toronto than I am skipping this play!
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                                    • JW Cash
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-31-08
                                      • 4453

                                      #2083
                                      Originally posted by Wilba
                                      Well thanks for your kind comments. I use covers.com for NBA backtesting, it is a very good site and you can backtest many other sports with this also. It allows you to backtest every game in NBA plus other sports for the past 20 years. The link for the NBA tems backtest part of the page is covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/teams.html

                                      and yes of course I have a documents with all my research, just an excel document, and yes I am happy to send this to you if you PM me your email address. I warn you though that it is a massive document that I have compiled over 4 years, and I would estimate 2000 hours work have gone into it. As well as NBA it has MLB, NHL, AFL, NRL (australian rugby league) and soccer research in it.

                                      In terms of NHL and NBA the most valuable things I have ever turned up is that double digit underdogs win close to 60% of the time in NBA (buying no points! just playing the spread) and hence I play every double digit dog in NBA, regardless of how bad the team is/how good the team they are facing, for 2% of my bankroll. Makes good money every single season with no chase or excessive risk. Another of the most valuable things I found is that playing every NHL team which is plus 0.500 after 3 losses is very profitable. Again no chase or capping just flat bet every time this situation comes up. For MLB an absolute goldmine is playing the under on every MLB team for which their last 5 games have gone under. If/When an MLB reaches 8 consecutive games on the under, the under is an even better play from there (off the top of my head it hits close to 70% after 8 consecutive unders but I would have to confirm that.) At least 1-2 times a season you get MLB teams hitting 15-16 straight unders. Again no capping or chasing for either of these three, I just play every time the situation occurs and all 3 are brilliant money makers. They are the best 3 for those 3 sports that I have ever found.


                                      Thats some good stuff Wilba....

                                      I do similiar things.....

                                      ..i.e. A team may start 8 Games that they go UNDER ( after an OVER) but
                                      they do not go UNDER for the 2nd game....

                                      their excel sheet will look like

                                      1 2 3
                                      ----------
                                      8 0 0


                                      Of course I dont have to tell you how to make money with that stat


                                      And there is incredible amount of opportunity available with
                                      similiar stats in the Home Win, Home Loss, Home Over, Home Under
                                      Away Over, Away Under, PS Win, PS Loss. Home PS Win, Home PS loss
                                      Away PS Win, Away PS loss factors...

                                      Ya just gotta do your daily homework with your spreadsheets to find
                                      the opportunity.....

                                      Couple that with Labourchere.....well.....what could be better...

                                      Well.....putting suntan oil on college girls on a sunny Santorini beach
                                      while taking sips of some great Chianti.....well that could be better..


                                      But NOT by much.......
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                                      • Wilba
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-29-10
                                        • 702

                                        #2084
                                        Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                        Wilba:On the face of it, you've presented a solid case for playing from the B bet. With results from over a decade, I couldn't help but wonder why Morrison and others had not picked up on it before now. So, I thought I would check your calculations.

                                        Yep, using odds of -170 we risk losing 18.68 units (you stated 18.51, but its only 0.17, which is not a discrepancy worth discussing, so I'll go with your 18.51 for commonality in our calculations.

                                        HOWEVER, you have stated that we would bet at the B bet to win Sorry, but we don't; not with odds of -170. We bet to win only 2.70 Units (to recover the lost 1.70 unit and win the 1 unit target; I know you know this, but others are reading). Now, this is a discrepancy that is worth discussing, because 2.70 units x 415 winning series is 1120 units, which is 100 units less than you have calculated. 1120 winning units minus 611 lost units is 509 units, which is 10 units less than 519 units overall win when starting from the A Bet. I have checked and re-checked and if I'm wrong please tell me and I'll go to back of the class and take up your system forthwith.

                                        Obviously, if anyone starts betting at the B Bet to win more units than they would have been betting to win if they had lost at the A bet, they will be better off, but thats not a proper comparison.

                                        I think you should look at your figures.

                                        regards
                                        Kev
                                        I dont think you read my post carefully enough - please read this one carefully and you will see why I am right.
                                        Firstly a side note about the the 18.68 units risk as opposed to 18.5, yeah sure, with -170 exactly this is the case. But I used 1.59 decimal odds (instead of 1.588236 or whatever) for ease of calculation. This has no effect whatsoever on the results as it is a common value to both sets of combinations, not even worth bringing up. If you insist I will redo the calculations with 1.588236 decimal odds (instead of rounding off) to prove that it makes no difference.

                                        With your main comment about "if you played from B, you would play to win 2.7 units" Now why would you only play to win 2.7 units if you played from B? that means you are betting less on the series, why would you bet less on the series?

                                        If you are risking 18.68 units on a JM system series, I am saying you can risk those 18.68 units one of two ways. The first way to risk those 18.68 units is to play to win 1 unit from A bet. The second way to risk the EXACT SAME AMOUNT of 18.68 units, if to play to win a HIGHER UNIT AMOUNT from B. Either way you risk the exact same 18.68 units per series, but the only difference is, if you wait for the B bets, you make more money, as per my calculations. Are you understanding my method now? To make sure you understand I will show you again: (and I will use non-rounded strict -170 odds to show this makes no difference, this actually works in favour of waiting until B anyway)

                                        play from A: you risk 18.68 units to win 1 unit on either A/B/C as follows:
                                        A bet: risk 1.7 to win 1
                                        B bet: risk 4.59 to win 2.7 (1 unit profit overall)
                                        C bet: risk 12.39 to win 7.29 (1 unit profit overall)

                                        TOTAL SERIES RISK = 18.68 UNITS TO WIN 1 UNIT

                                        play from B: you risk 18.68 units to win 2.97 units on either B/C
                                        A bet: risk 5.05 to win 2.97
                                        B bet: risk 13.63 to win 8.02 (2.97 unit profit overall)

                                        TOTAL SERIES RISK = 18.68 UNITS TO WIN 2.97 UNITS

                                        As you can see, either way you risk the same 18.68 units per series. So if more than 100 out of every 297 series goes to B (which will always be true) you will make more money by only playing from B.

                                        I hope that you understand my method now? If you risk less on the series playing from B (as you were inadvertently suggesting), of course you make less money!

                                        When you have re-checked my calculations and confirmed that I am right, please be sure to confirm by post that everything I have posted was correct, as I do not want my integrity to be questioned! Thanks
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                                        • Wilba
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-29-10
                                          • 702

                                          #2085
                                          sorry Kev I will just add this to be completely sure that you understand my method this time - you are saying that if you play from B after sitting out A, that you would play to win 2.7 units from B. But if you play to win 2.7 units from B, then you are only risking 16.98 units on the whole series (as opposed to risking 18.68 units on series when playing to win 1 unit from A)

                                          So of course, if you risk less on the series, you will win less. That goes without saying. What I am talking about is to play with the SAME RISK PER SERIES, only wait til the B before you start playing. And so then yes, all my calculations are definitely correct. I would never post incorrect calculations!

                                          thanks for your feedback though and I hope that you understand the method now? Risk the same from B = win more profit every time
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                                          • Wilba
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-29-10
                                            • 702

                                            #2086
                                            Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

                                            Constructive criticism is always welcome. Just try not to use profanity or name calling. I read a lot of the post over the last few pages that i felt got out of hand. It is very unnecessary.
                                            Im not sure if you were referring to my post with this comment but if you were then I apologise. I have to admit I was a little annoyed when I posted so if I came across as a dick sorry that was not my intention. My bad and I absolutely agree with you that constructive criticism is great but name calling is unnecessary. Sorry mate
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                                            • Wilba
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-29-10
                                              • 702

                                              #2087
                                              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                              i hope your right wilba that "A" doesn't win over 67%... i wouldn't want you to lose your left nut
                                              haha yes I value both of my nuts quite a lot actually! But I am very sure that if you look at the stats at seasons end I will be right. A will not hit 67% over season. Statistical anomalies very, very rarely last as long as a full season.
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                                              • Wilba
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-29-10
                                                • 702

                                                #2088
                                                Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

                                                If anyone else has any back testing on this I would love to see the results of it. I truely believe though betting underdogs is extremely profitable. I will start keeping track starting today to see how often the underdogs cover the spread based on -110 odds and by the end of the week I will see how $100 bettors will do.
                                                Hi again I do not know about betting every underdog, but I do know that if you bet every double digit underdog it will hit nearly 60% of the time (w/ no points) and obviously this is extremely profitable. Buy the points and the win % goes up considerably.

                                                By the way someone was asking about JJ's NBA triple play sys. All it is is to play every double digit underdog after buying 3 points (it simply utilizes the double digit dog stat I mention above)

                                                If the first double digit dog you play w/ 3 pts loses, then double up on the next double digit dog w/ 3 points for B bet, and same for C.

                                                It is a profitable system but I would be wary of believing his 128-0 record from last year. The problem with that record is that you can not properly backtest it, because some days the are multiple double point dogs. So if a C bet is due, and on that day there are 2 double digit dogs tipping off at the same time, when JJ is creating his record he can pick later which one he wants to claim as his C bet (obviously the winning one) and if the other one loses he can just claim it as his A bet of the next series. Make sense?

                                                Whoever it was that was asking for backtest of his system, unfortunately this can not be done reliably for the reason I give above.

                                                However I can say beyond a shadow of doubt that you will make good money using this system, as I have used the same double digit dog theory for many years and it always wins good money. Except I just play every one for the same amount, I do not see the value in weighting some more heavily (B/C bets) the way JJ does with his system, because the B/C bets that he chooses have the exact same win % chance as the A bet that lost. Unlike in JM sys where it is the same team that you back for A/B/C, and after they lose A (or A and B) their motivation goes up and thereby their chance of covering goes up. With JJ sys you just play B/C if the previous double digit dog (very rarely the same team) does not cover.

                                                ps I never signed up for his system, this is 2nd hand info from a reliable source who did sign up to his system.

                                                well i reckon i just did about 6 consecutive posts so im gonna stfu and stop posting! I felt obliged to respond to some posts I saw and dont get a chance to come on here that often so thought i would reply all at once! 2 big C bets coming up on friday woot woot gonna be great
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                                                • Wilba
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-29-10
                                                  • 702

                                                  #2089
                                                  Originally posted by JW Cash
                                                  Thats some good stuff Wilba....

                                                  I do similiar things.....

                                                  ..i.e. A team may start 8 Games that they go UNDER ( after an OVER) but
                                                  they do not go UNDER for the 2nd game....

                                                  their excel sheet will look like

                                                  1 2 3
                                                  ----------
                                                  8 0 0


                                                  Of course I dont have to tell you how to make money with that stat


                                                  And there is incredible amount of opportunity available with
                                                  similiar stats in the Home Win, Home Loss, Home Over, Home Under
                                                  Away Over, Away Under, PS Win, PS Loss. Home PS Win, Home PS loss
                                                  Away PS Win, Away PS loss factors...

                                                  Ya just gotta do your daily homework with your spreadsheets to find
                                                  the opportunity.....

                                                  Couple that with Labourchere.....well.....what could be better...

                                                  Well.....putting suntan oil on college girls on a sunny Santorini beach
                                                  while taking sips of some great Chianti.....well that could be better..


                                                  But NOT by much.......
                                                  absolutely bro! What you are talking about I love doing with MLB teams especially, some of them are incredibly consistent with that type of stuff over the whole season.

                                                  I dont know what Chianti is or where Santorini beach is but I know what suntan and college girls look like.. Count me in!!!

                                                  I think this is my 7th straight post (ill pretend JW didnt post in between some of them) is this an all time record
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                                                  • Aroostika
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 12-04-10
                                                    • 13

                                                    #2090
                                                    Originally posted by jmjj
                                                    I agree the Pistons will not lose tomm considering they do not play so I will take that as a system play good job lol
                                                    I hate you guys.
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                                                    • J.M. Disciple
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-16-10
                                                      • 5154

                                                      #2091
                                                      Great Job Wilba, I will make sure to start following what you posted about betting on unders and the same win % for A as B and C. When you talked about making a C bet and there being 2 double digit underdogs i was asking myself that earlier as well. I was very confused on what time you would bet on. I am going to save myself $97 with this info.

                                                      As for my post about betting every underdog, the response i got from it was only to bet double digit underdogs. The math behind winning $3300 was not from the TPS system, but from this year on betting all the underdogs. The 58% win comes strictly from this year. It was not the winning % of the double digit underdogs. I will back test last years season and see what it comes out to be.

                                                      Thanks for the Info Wilba i got some points coming your way. I have a bunch of spread sheets and i think im just going to delete them all and stick all my bets onto one spread sheet.

                                                      I was thinking about following JM's bets for ABC but no chase and no buying points. I believe there was a post on this way earlier in the thread some where in the first 20 pages and It appears to show a profit as well. So i might not win as big but as people said about using the labby, they might win a little smaller, but their losses are also small. I will have so many bets going on every day from here on out that chasing will be too much of my bankroll. So i will just be flat betting from here on out.

                                                      BOL to Everyone.
                                                      SBR points to wilba.

                                                      ALso I will like to say that my own plays yesterday went 5-4 inclugin a 6 team ML parlay which one. My own plays netted me 5 units where as the system netted me a decent loss.

                                                      sorry for splashing around on different topics from this post.

                                                      ALso wilba i appreciate the apology, but i was not necessarily refering to your post. There were multiple post in front of yours with all the name calling and profanity and just a bunch of stuff that is uncalled for. As they said we are on the internet and there is no point in argueing. It just makes both parties lets say... not look good.

                                                      Constructive critism is the way to go.
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                                                      • apbim2010
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 12-09-10
                                                        • 2

                                                        #2092
                                                        Hi,

                                                        I'm following this forum for sometime now.
                                                        I find this JM system very interesting.

                                                        Being this my 1st reply in this forum do you think it is possible to have an excel file with all the system versions. V1, V2 and V3?

                                                        I see that everyday it seems to be very confuse what someone thinks is a bet and others no.

                                                        Thanks in advance for the file.
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                                                        • BettingTime
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 12-05-10
                                                          • 6

                                                          #2093
                                                          Thank You Wilba for all your posts. I wish I had more SBR points to give.
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                                                          • J.M. Disciple
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-16-10
                                                            • 5154

                                                            #2094
                                                            I was completely wrong about betting every underdog in the nba. I just back tested it and most of the under dogs slightly lose going something like 25 wins 31 losses or 21 losses 28 wins and other teams go 14 wins 12 losses. There for betting every under dog in the season will not be profitable. All though it did appear that way for this season.

                                                            If you are new to this thread I suggest you follow how Wilba bets and the different strategies he uses. He has a lot of stats to back up his bets.

                                                            I know someone already tested it, but I do not know what the results were or where to find it.
                                                            What were the results of betting the system with out points and with out chasing? Actually ill go back in look it couldn't of been posted too far back.

                                                            Sorry for cluttering the thread with my useless info. I obviously do not know what i am talking about and will follow Wilba's advice. Its way too hard to make my own system. After back testing under dogs and favorites the sports bets just seem to make most people look dumb.

                                                            Props to those who actually develop systems.

                                                            For those of you who have purchased the Tripple play System involving chasing teams that are double digit underdogs.

                                                            Could you answer me two questions?
                                                            1) What is the winning % of A B and C?
                                                            2) What happens when your "B bet" fails and the next day there are two teams that are double digit underdogs. Which team do you bet on for your "C wager" and what team becomes your new "A wager?"
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                                                            • Stevier100
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 11-19-10
                                                              • 42

                                                              #2095
                                                              Originally posted by apbim2010
                                                              Hi,

                                                              I'm following this forum for sometime now.
                                                              I find this JM system very interesting.

                                                              Being this my 1st reply in this forum do you think it is possible to have an excel file with all the system versions. V1, V2 and V3?

                                                              I see that everyday it seems to be very confuse what someone thinks is a bet and others no.

                                                              Thanks in advance for the file.
                                                              You are fortunate to have found this forum before ever betting on this system so i suggest anyone looking for the 1st time take a bit of time and read this thread from start to finish where along the way you will find great info and spreadsheets to download and learn about all 3 versions & selections (V1, V2 & V3).

                                                              BOL 2 U All

                                                              Steve
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                                                              • apbim2010
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 12-09-10
                                                                • 2

                                                                #2096
                                                                Originally posted by Stevier100
                                                                You are fortunate to have found this forum before ever betting on this system so i suggest anyone looking for the 1st time take a bit of time and read this thread from start to finish where along the way you will find great info and spreadsheets to download and learn about all 3 versions & selections (V1, V2 & V3).

                                                                BOL 2 U All

                                                                Steve
                                                                Already did that, and i saw two excel files, one with v1 system and other with v1 and v2, but there are some differences between both...what makes me a little confusion. Didn't saw any V3.

                                                                Thanks anyway.
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                                                                • teecee
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-18-09
                                                                  • 6298

                                                                  #2097
                                                                  dude, check out the daily nba schedule. click on the road teams and see which road team is beginning or in the midst of at least a three-game roadie. then proceed playing these teams and buying three points. how fvcking hard is it to understand?
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                                                                  • teecee
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-18-09
                                                                    • 6298

                                                                    #2098
                                                                    why the F is orlando favored at portland!?
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                                                                    • knugen
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-09-09
                                                                      • 2612

                                                                      #2099
                                                                      so boston is a play tonight also?
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                                                                      • teecee
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-18-09
                                                                        • 6298

                                                                        #2100
                                                                        looks as though boston is play. they start a three-game road trip this evening. v.19 series, i believe.
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