WNBA Dating Tips

**cocknocker** · 06-29-09, 03:22 AM

I still luv ya Houlihans!

**Vreston** · 06-29-09, 04:44 AM

Thanks again for yesterday's pick! Good show of discipline keeping the project play to just that one game.
With that and the Conferations Cup final it was a great way to end the weekend!

**sweetjones55** · 06-29-09, 08:19 AM

Thanks for the picks this weekend CK/SM. Nothing better than vacationing in the Bahamas, living it up and still making money on the WNBA going on my iphone for 2 minutes every night.

**HoulihansTX** · 06-29-09, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by cocknocker;1981689 [I

Telling me about what happened with OTHER TEAMS in this situation in OTHER YEARS won't cut it over here.[/I]

UMMMMMM??? I only did the backtracking for this season, and the situation I researched can't be found on any website. I looked at all the records and noticed the trend.

Ok here you go... Sacramento has already been in this situation and lost to Detroit.

Other that teams have been in this situation.... Sparks lose to Indiana / Minnesota lose to seattle / Seattle lose to Chicago. These are better teams with better records, and have not pulled it off.

Now the Sparks situation is even more important, b/c they went on to lose their following game to Phoenix on the road. Which was their 4th game in 10 days. This is the exact same situation Sacramento is in Tuesday, 4th game in ten days having lost all games on road trip. I understand you saying Chicago is a marginal team, but not at home where they are undefeated, and winning by an avg. of 6pts.

This speaks to how much WNBA teams hate this road scheduling, and don't like the time spent away from families. WNBA is a part time job for most of the players, who are putting their other careers on hold, or play full-time in Europe.

And trust me CK, I have no animosity. Rather I apppreciate you sharing your thought process, and I will be stealing that for future reference. HAhaha. Besides the line hasn't come out yet. I was more apalled by the fact that you would put money on Sacramento on the road in any situation. Yall kepp making money over here. Put your kids through college, buy some fly gear(me), or just keep your pockets fat.

**RoagBettor** · 06-29-09, 08:43 AM

Folks, if you ever pay a service for picks you're crazy. Just the free talent in this thread (CK, SM, jgb, Hou, me (lol just kidding about me!) is worth more than you will ever spend with a service.

And it doesn't stop here. Baseball, football, soccer, etc. - you'll find better info at SBR than with any paid bullshitter.

*Disclaimer: I have no relationship with SBR other than my membership. Heck, I didn't even know who they were until I got burned by a paid service earlier this year*

**cocknocker** · 06-29-09, 09:07 AM

Houli, the Sparks weren't a huge underdog when their situation came up. Matter of fact based upon the consensus for that game against Indiana, the public felt that the Sparks were the Fever's equal. To go further, as you stated, the teams that fell into this category were (Seattle, Sparks, Minnesota)all better teams than Sacramento and thus the number for them wasn't as high for them as the number we will see for Sacramento. The better the team the less help you get from the linemaker. Compare the numbers for those games to what you will get on this line. Little numbers....

You won't get that with this game. What you're gonna get is an inflated line for a mediocre team on a home winning streak playing a team with identical talent because the linemaker knows what YOU know. He thinks that WE don't know what HE knows. But I do. The Monarchs are the call whether anyone likes it or not. Watch in amazement as they keep the score within 4 points at the end of this game.

Keeping an eye out for chicken dinner plays is my specialty. And trust me you will start to see what I mean when the consensus numbers come out. Sexymit says you can't follow the crowd if you want to make money in the WNBA.

This will be a BIG payday for only a select few sharps and Las Vegas as a whole. You either line up with us and get the money or ride with the Joes and either not capitalize on this game or end up on the wrong side. It's that simple. I have been doing this for a long time, and this game is a 3 star pick due to the blindsided nature of it.

**HoulihansTX** · 06-29-09, 09:40 AM

Make money.

**SexyMit** · 06-29-09, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by cocknocker

Houli, the Sparks weren't a huge underdog when their situation came up. Matter of fact based upon the consensus for that game against Indiana, the public felt that the Sparks were the Fever's equal. To go further, as you stated, the teams that fell into this category were (Seattle, Sparks, Minnesota)all better teams than Sacramento and thus the number for them wasn't as high for them as the number we will see for Sacramento. The better the team the less help you get from the linemaker. Compare the numbers for those games to what you will get on this line. Little numbers....

You won't get that with this game. What you're gonna get is an inflated line for a mediocre team on a home winning streak playing a team with identical talent because the linemaker knows what YOU know. He thinks that WE don't know what HE knows. But I do. The Monarchs are the call whether anyone likes it or not. Watch in amazement as they keep the score within 4 points at the end of this game.

Keeping an eye out for chicken dinner plays is my specialty. And trust me you will start to see what I mean when the consensus numbers come out. Sexymit says you can't follow the crowd if you want to make money in the WNBA.

This will be a BIG payday for only a select few sharps and Las Vegas as a whole. You either line up with us and get the money or ride with the Joes and either not capitalize on this game or end up on the wrong side. It's that simple. I have been doing this for a long time, and this game is a 3 star pick due to the blindsided nature of it.

**Marvinj** · 06-29-09, 09:59 AM

Chaching

**sportsguy04** · 06-29-09, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by danrman

whats ridiculous is your spelling of ridiculous

Glad I am getting a english lesson on a gambling forum.

**sweetjones55** · 06-29-09, 11:07 AM

Monarchs opened at +8.5 on Pinnacle and are at +7.5 now.

**azn624** · 06-29-09, 11:22 AM

imma follow this n love your picks so far

**cocknocker** · 06-29-09, 11:46 AM

Monarchs have reverse movement right outta the gate! And then to further illustrate what I was talking about with respect to Minnesota..after they blow out Phoenix they are a 3.5 point dog at opening and a 4 point dog now to Atlanta. And you know what? Atlanta is going to get it done as precribed.

San Antonio has had incredible movement on the side as well as the total. They opened as a 3 point favorite, then the line went to -6.5. Then if that's not enough for ya, the over/under goes from an opening of 148 all the way down to 139.5 WOW! Now that's steam. naturally it has me thinking the over is the right call, and that Washington is also the correct call as well as crazy as it seems. The linemaker knows what happened at the opening number. Everyone jumped on the wrong side (San Antonio) when they saw the short number. The number is getting bigger now to match the public money. I will probably be on the side of the books on that one and pound Washington now. Never go in the direction of a three point or more movement. It is only public money being collected.

**MarkHammond** · 06-29-09, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by cocknocker

Monarchs have reverse movement right outta the gate! And then to further illustrate what I was talking about with respect to Minnesota..after they blow out Phoenix they are a 3.5 point dog at opening and a 4 point dog now to Atlanta. And you know what? Atlanta is going to get it done as prescribed.

San Antonio has had incredible movement on the side as well as the total. They opened as a 3 point favorite, then the line went to -6.5. Then if that's not enough for ya, the over/under goes from an opening of 148 all the way down to 139.5 WOW! Now that's steam. naturally it has me thinking the over is the right call, and that Washington is also the correct call as well as crazy as it seems. The linemaker knows what happened at the opening number. Everyone jumped on the wrong side (San Antonio) when they saw the short number. The number is getting bigger now to match the public money. I will probably be on the side of the books on that one and pound Washington now. Never go in the direction of a three point or more movement. It is only public money being collected.

public will pile on minnesota

**cocknocker** · 06-29-09, 12:16 PM

Sexymit here's the proposal on my end.

Atlanta-3.5 (if it's 4 get it to 3.5)
Sacramento+8.5 or 8 (That's the number that we want)

Those two are my firm ones

Washington+8 This is the target number. Either we take the points or else move out of the way-I'm not drunk on this one despite liking the situation. I just can't line up with the Joes, Sexymit...it's not in my DNA makeup.

**Biff Webster** · 06-29-09, 01:04 PM

CK,

I noticed about 2/3 of the games were won ATS by the home team. Is it logical to start with the frame of mind that the home team will win and watch line movement for anything funny. The games with odd movement, bet the appropriate side, otherwise stick with the home team?

I hope that makes sense.

**cocknocker** · 06-29-09, 01:26 PM

Biff Webster

Noobs think that because the season is going one way that it will continue to go the same way. I saw that some other guy alluded to this thought process too. It's just simply not true. Before the end of the year teams will ALL be close to .500 ats both on the road and at home

**Biff Webster** · 06-29-09, 01:42 PM

Thats what I figured. This is the first year to follow wnba and I havent been able to find stats from previous years.

**jellobiafra** · 06-29-09, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by RoagBettor

Folks, if you ever pay a service for picks you're crazy....
Baseball, football, soccer, etc. - you'll find better info at SBR than with any paid bullshitter.

The allure of the "professional" handicapper is strong, but there's none out there that are going to give you any better insights than you will find on these message boards for free. Besides, handicapping your own games isn't that hard in the first place. People act like it's rocket science. They have a little bit of struggle right out the gate and just give up on themselves. Then they follow a capper who has the same type of struggle down the road and kick themselves for trusting someone else with their money.

I trust these guys with my money on WNBA because they are a proven commodity and I know even if I had the desire to work at this sport I could never do any better than they do. I couldn't even match it, so why do all that work when they are offering free money in this thread out of the kindness of their hearts?

**RoagBettor** · 06-29-09, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by jellobiafra

The allure of the "professional" handicapper is strong, but there's none out there that are going to give you any better insights than you will find on these message boards for free. Besides, handicapping your own games isn't that hard in the first place. People act like it's rocket science. They have a little bit of struggle right out the gate and just give up on themselves. Then they follow a capper who has the same type of struggle down the road and kick themselves for trusting someone else with their money.

I trust these guys with my money on WNBA because they are a proven commodity and I know even if I had the desire to work at this sport I could never do any better than they do. I couldn't even match it, so why do all that work when they are offering free money in this thread out of the kindness of their hearts?

**Biff Webster** · 06-29-09, 02:06 PM

That is exactly why I tail their picks, but I like to learn about stuff I do. I am new to capping games and other than NBA and NCAAF Im not consistent.

**gilbert91016** · 06-29-09, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by jellobiafra

The allure of the "professional" handicapper is strong, but there's none out there that are going to give you any better insights than you will find on these message boards for free. Besides, handicapping your own games isn't that hard in the first place. People act like it's rocket science. They have a little bit of struggle right out the gate and just give up on themselves. Then they follow a capper who has the same type of struggle down the road and kick themselves for trusting someone else with their money.

I trust these guys with my money on WNBA because they are a proven commodity and I know even if I had the desire to work at this sport I could never do any better than they do. I couldn't even match it, so why do all that work when they are offering free money in this thread out of the kindness of their hearts?

**RoagBettor** · 06-29-09, 02:18 PM

I'll definitely be playing a 3 Team/8 Pt teaser in addition to the project plays. Right now I'm looking at:

Sacramento +15.5
San Antonio +2
Minnesota +12.5 or Atlanta +3.5

I'll wait until tomorrow since I think these lines will move in my favor. I will also play a 3 or 4 team parlay.

**SexyMit** · 06-29-09, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

Sexymit here's the proposal on my end.

Atlanta-3.5 (if it's 4 get it to 3.5)
Sacramento+8.5 or 8 (That's the number that we want)

Those two are my firm ones

Washington+8 This is the target number. Either we take the points or else move out of the way-I'm not drunk on this one despite liking the situation. I just can't line up with the Joes, Sexymit...it's not in my DNA makeup.

Well Sacramento we can't pass up! I hope they play better then they did against Detroit! Atlanta I was already liking them as well, Minnesota blew Phoenix away on Saturday night! I would have to take the SA over with the way the line dropped 10 points from what you are saying! You have to go the opposite of a huge line movement.

Most of the time when you see something like this, there is an oppertunity for the big guys to get a middle with a 10 point drop, and Vegas doesn't give away free money. Especaially when there is an oppertunity to win both sides on something like this! That is a big chance to middle the total!

With Washington I think we have some good prospect plays and I don't like playing a whole lot of games in one night! 2 or 3 at the most I don't like to do many more then that! We have a nice thing going when we come down to a few games there is no reason to puch our luck, just stick with our strong plays!

**Samson15** · 06-29-09, 05:39 PM

So tonight plays are ATL and SACRAMENTO ?

**linglingfool** · 06-29-09, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Samson15

So tonight plays are ATL and SACRAMENTO ?

Those are plays for Tuesday; no games tonight. Also, they're not official until both CK and Sexy agree on a line, any buys, and the number of units.

**Samson15** · 06-29-09, 05:55 PM

Thank you fool..lol..

**MIAMIHURRICANE** · 06-29-09, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by jellobiafra

The allure of the "professional" handicapper is strong, but there's none out there that are going to give you any better insights than you will find on these message boards for free. Besides, handicapping your own games isn't that hard in the first place. People act like it's rocket science. They have a little bit of struggle right out the gate and just give up on themselves. Then they follow a capper who has the same type of struggle down the road and kick themselves for trusting someone else with their money.

I trust these guys with my money on WNBA because they are a proven commodity and I know even if I had the desire to work at this sport I could never do any better than they do. I couldn't even match it, so why do all that work when they are offering free money in this thread out of the kindness of their hearts?

I AGREE 100 %....ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU TWO(CK/SM) IS

...YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT!

**Marvinj** · 06-29-09, 06:14 PM

When does the season end?

im too lazy to look it up

**HarleyDavids** · 06-29-09, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Marvinj

When does the season end?

im too lazy to look it up

September-October if Im not mistaken.

**sweetjones55** · 06-29-09, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

I think that the person who should let anyone know if they changed their mind about this play it would have to be you. I have heard everything that you have offered, and although I am sure that there are those who buy into trends, I am not one of them. The only trends that are useful are those which are not written. Things like play on a team anyway when they are missing their star player. Telling me about what happened with OTHER TEAMS in this situation in OTHER YEARS won't cut it over here. Pros don't handicap that way, and you shouldn't either. Current numbers/current teams/current situations. That's capping. Despite your research, Sacramento is the play. Want to kno howi know?

All that it would take to bring you over to my side is for the line to start off at Chicago-9.5 and with 90% of bettors on Chicago, the line dip to Chicago-7. I'll bet you wouldn't feel comfortable about taking the Sky then now would you? matter of fact, if you saw 10% of bettors control the line and make it move 2 points I'd say you would be more than ready to pound the hell out of the Monarchs. Nothing beats good old fashioned handicapping.

If your research didn't include teams that have a +/- of -4 and giving up 80 points per game defensively, and undefeated at home facing the team that is winless on the road and giving up close to double digits as the spread, then your research is pointless.

The truth is that Chicago gives up more points than Sacramento does, and although it is slight (79.8 to 80) the teams are evenly matched. Sacramento scores 72.4 Chicago scores 76.0 That's 4 points differential which is about where I capped this game. It will be a squeaker. You'd better stop readin trends and get your money

So there are the numbers. Now, without those trends (from years that have absolutely NOTHING to do with right now) prove to me mathematically where you will get 10 points of differential in this matchup for Chicago based upon the level of performance by these teams.

You may want to drop trend betting and get with situational betting which is what we are doing. It's MUCH more current. Look over all of my posts, and you will see that if i mentioned a trend, it was a CURRENT ONE that I made up, such as the fading the WNBA teams that beat Detroit.

The Joes will be taking the Sky thinking about chicken dinners and how big of a mismatch this game is. It's quite the contrary. I am also taking the Sacramento moneyline as well to prove my point.

See that's what I mean....We started this thread to make money, and now guys are second guessing us and quoting trends as a reference point.

Ain't shit cool until Sexymit says it's cool.

I have to admit, I really love when someone doubts one of CK's plays because of responses like this from CK. You really give the best insights into games when someone states they are thinking that you have the wrong play. I do like the Monarch's tommrow especially if it goes to +8.5 and I can get +10 with a 1.5 point by. Chicago is going to overlook this bad Sacramento team and think that just because they are at home that it will be enough to beat them. Sacramento 1st quarter/1st half could also be great plays considering that Chicago will probably come out flat and unmotivated vs possibly the worst WNBA team. I see Sacramento getting an early lead, building some confidence, and playing tight with Chicago for most of the game.

**RoagBettor** · 06-29-09, 06:39 PM

Current Bookmaker lines:

Atl -4
SA -6
Chi -7

**SexyMit** · 06-29-09, 06:44 PM

Line is still dropping on Sacramento game!

**Flight** · 06-29-09, 07:20 PM

Pinnacle Line Movement thus far:
Atlanta Dream opened at -6 on Pinnacle and dropped down to -4.5 (helps us)
Sacramento Monarchs opened at +8.5 and dropped to +7.5 (with extra -115 vig at some books) (does not help us)

With the kind of late line movement I've seen on WNBA I'll keep smoking for now.

**cocknocker** · 06-29-09, 07:41 PM

The Joes are on the Lynx and Sky heavily as expected. Looks like we will pay our two games and learn from the Washington/San Antonio game as it is one that can go either way. The over looks tasty I must admit, but I wanted to get off 2 units on Sacramento, and one on Atlanta. But with the over play involved we can cover our bets better actually.

Alright so far we're looking at Sacramento, Atlanta, and San Antonio/Washington over 141.5, and a dime risked total...I kind of like it. Let's keep the chips moving...