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  • harthebar
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-09-11
    • 15710

    #4656
    KENTUCKY DERBY REPLAY 5-3-14



    AND CHART
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    • harthebar
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-09-11
      • 15710

      #4657
      Gary Stevens after the race on HRTV said that the jockey on Wicked Strong (Rajiv) slammed into his horse on the first turn and then swerved into Corey's path on DWF as well...he said it was the roughest Derby he had been in and accused Rajiv of not caring about the safety and welfare of the jockeys or the horses.


      Wow...pretty blunt. Sour grapes or legit beef?

      The video is up at HRTV called Jockeys on Losing the Derby.


      WATCH THIS




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      • str
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-12-09
        • 11764

        #4658
        Originally posted by harthebar
        Gary Stevens after the race on HRTV said that the jockey on Wicked Strong (Rajiv) slammed into his horse on the first turn and then swerved into Corey's path on DWF as well...he said it was the roughest Derby he had been in and accused Rajiv of not caring about the safety and welfare of the jockeys or the horses.


        Wow...pretty blunt. Sour grapes or legit beef?

        The video is up at HRTV called Jockeys on Losing the Derby.


        WATCH THIS




        Legit beef IMO.

        Gary was emotional minutes after the race. He had every right too be, but IMO all of that was not the riders fault. Wicked Strong seemed to be ducking around in the post parade as well as while running. He had also done so training the last couple of days but I wrote that off as getting used to the place with all the added activity going on. Seems like he never got totally comfortable with everything.
        Some of the blame has to go to the rider and I don't blame Gary for any of what he said but I think that after the race and in the jocks room, he probably spoke to Wicked's rider and watched the replay and while still holding that jock for some of the blame , he might have seen that it was not necessarily all the riders fault.
        That's how I saw it but what the hell, Gary was out there so ultimately he would know best.
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        • harthebar
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-09-11
          • 15710

          #4659
          i just wrote it your blog , want to ask you something anyway
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          • harthebar
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-09-11
            • 15710

            #4660
            Hey i didnt make that quote, i just copied and paste

            Originally posted by str
            legit beef imo.

            Gary was emotional minutes after the race. He had every right too be, but imo all of that was not the riders fault. Wicked strong seemed to be ducking around in the post parade as well as while running. He had also done so training the last couple of days but i wrote that off as getting used to the place with all the added activity going on. Seems like he never got totally comfortable with everything.
            Some of the blame has to go to the rider and i don't blame gary for any of what he said but i think that after the race and in the jocks room, he probably spoke to wicked's rider and watched the replay and while still holding that jock for some of the blame , he might have seen that it was not necessarily all the riders fault.
            That's how i saw it but what the hell, gary was out there so ultimately he would know best.
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            • harthebar
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-09-11
              • 15710

              #4661
              sammy mandawill winner 5/2


              Originally posted by harthebar
              That 8 horse mike

              mike is 1:11.3 fast ,average or slow for 3/4 IN REF. TO DERBY
              YOU POST ANY HORSES, IF NOT , , YOU SEE ANYTHING YOU LIKE,
              SAMMY MANDVILL SANTA ANITA AND JUSTA GUSTA SANTA ANITA THINK 1ST AND 5TH
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              • harthebar
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-09-11
                • 15710

                #4662
                balmoral
                race 10 kimberly r
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                • harthebar
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-09-11
                  • 15710

                  #4663
                  parx
                  Rugby Road race 6 had a little follow on him excuse last two, ...... rudy's horse im hoping will be over bet, he had another today with ortiz on a c dropping down from 50,000 c to 10,000 c
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                  • harthebar
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-09-11
                    • 15710

                    #4664
                    3rd at 10-1
                    Originally posted by harthebar
                    balmoral
                    race 10 kimberly r
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                    • harthebar
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-09-11
                      • 15710

                      #4665
                      Venetian Mask race 5 first time starter chad brown will be 4/5

                      with Rock Scene
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                      • TonyP
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-20-09
                        • 8478

                        #4666
                        Thistle Downs race 6 #6 Sweet Heat
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                        • Seastriper
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-28-14
                          • 237

                          #4667
                          Originally posted by TonyP
                          Thistle Downs race 6 #6 Sweet Heat

                          Scratched
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                          • harthebar
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-09-11
                            • 15710

                            #4668
                            BELMONT 5-7-14.pdf
                            BELMONT 5-8-14.pdf
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                            • harthebar
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-09-11
                              • 15710

                              #4669
                              NT
                              RACE 1 Tapulous
                              RACE 2BELMO
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                              • harthebar
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-09-11
                                • 15710

                                #4670
                                BELMONT
                                Bad To The RoanRACE 4
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                                • harthebar
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-09-11
                                  • 15710

                                  #4671
                                  BELMONT
                                  Bad To The RoanRACE 4
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23440

                                    #4672
                                    tdn

                                    R6 #9 abiding love (5-1)probably odds on
                                    R7 #1 sonny's memory (8-1) half that I'm guessing
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                                    • Heppy10
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 05-15-09
                                      • 654

                                      #4673
                                      Belmont race 4
                                      7-5-8 tri box
                                      7-5-8 ex box
                                      7 w 1,5,8 ex
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                                      • harthebar
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-09-11
                                        • 15710

                                        #4674

                                        ark Timbers is scheduled to run on 5/8/2014 in Race 8 at Santa Anita.






                                        Tasha's Courage is scheduled to run on 5/8/2014 in Race 8 at Santa Anita.


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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23440

                                          #4675
                                          CD

                                          R9 #5 major lady

                                          SA

                                          R5 #4 jennyway.. (3-1)
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23440

                                            #4676
                                            Lad

                                            R8 #2 old rome (4-1)
                                            R9 #4 feedmeto.. (8-5)
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                                            • JBEX
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 23440

                                              #4677
                                              AP

                                              R9 #3 scholar boy (4-1)

                                              Cheap Illinois bred so not concerned with the drop. Trainer has tremendous numbers across the board with moves being done today. Only time jock rode for him 52.40 winner. Dam sire above average on poly according to my sire ratings
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23440

                                                #4678
                                                SA R8 #4 dark timbers (10-1)

                                                I know he's a 6yo gelding who's 0/17 with an 0/25 trainer.. gets best pilot he's had in while, good post and he ran my even fade line in a good figure race last out . think he'll offer some value cause of the obvious negatives
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                                                • harthebar
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-09-11
                                                  • 15710

                                                  #4679
                                                  dark timbers got 3rd at 50-1
                                                  Originally posted by harthebar

                                                  ark Timbers is scheduled to run on 5/8/2014 in Race 8 at Santa Anita.






                                                  Tasha's Courage is scheduled to run on 5/8/2014 in Race 8 at Santa Anita.


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                                                  • JBEX
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 23440

                                                    #4680
                                                    Originally posted by harthebar
                                                    dark timbers got 3rd at 50-1
                                                    could easily see a horse like the 3 not running at all and then
                                                    you have something decent. 14 months off and some of the best
                                                    beyers on display at double digit odds.. not for me
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                                                    • harthebar
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-09-11
                                                      • 15710

                                                      #4681
                                                      May. 8, 2014 07:45 PM 907004D0F92B Santa Anita 8 $1.00 TR 3 / 3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11 / 4 $6.00 $432.90
                                                      May. 8, 2014 07:45 PM 806FFA8AF92B Santa Anita 8 $1.00 TR 3 / 4 / 3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,13 $7.00 $0.00
                                                      I LOOKED AT THE 3 I HAD THE 4 AS A GREAT PLAY TODAY, THOUGHT THE 3 HAD SOME SPEED GOT LUCKY........BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE 4 WAS REALLY GOOD, HE HAD A ROUGH TRIP, COMING OFF THE PACE, ,,FOLLOW UP ON HIM NEXT OUT
                                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                                      could easily see a horse like the 3 not running at all and then
                                                      you have something decent. 14 months off and some of the best
                                                      beyers on display at double digit odds.. not for me
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                                                      • harthebar
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-09-11
                                                        • 15710

                                                        #4682
                                                        JBEX BELMONT 5-8-14.pdf OPEN THAT UP, WHAT NUMBERS DO THEY USE INSTEAD OF BEYERS, AND HOW OFF ARE THEY, COMPARED TO BEYER... IM GUESSING YOU HAVE THE DRF, LIKE WHATS THE 2 HORSE IN THE 8TH RACE BEYERS COMPARED TO THE 2 HORSE IN THESE PP'S
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                                                        • harthebar
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-09-11
                                                          • 15710

                                                          #4683
                                                          I was a little dissapointed with tri payout 11-1 on top of 7/5 and 45-1
                                                          Originally posted by jbex
                                                          sa r8 #4 dark timbers (10-1)

                                                          i know he's a 6yo gelding who's 0/17 with an 0/25 trainer.. Gets best pilot he's had in while, good post and he ran my even fade line in a good figure race last out . Think he'll offer some value cause of the obvious negatives
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                                                          • harthebar
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-09-11
                                                            • 15710

                                                            #4684
                                                            Are you still following the harness ,like these at maywood
                                                            cuatro cinco 10th really good last week,
                                                            the other ran
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23440

                                                              #4685
                                                              nice hit on the tri Har.. By the formula that Crist uses (drf)
                                                              to determine tri payoffs that number was about right, maybe
                                                              just a little low
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23440

                                                                #4686
                                                                Originally posted by harthebar
                                                                JBEX BELMONT 5-8-14.pdf OPEN THAT UP, WHAT NUMBERS DO THEY USE INSTEAD OF BEYERS, AND HOW OFF ARE THEY, COMPARED TO BEYER... IM GUESSING YOU HAVE THE DRF, LIKE WHATS THE 2 HORSE IN THE 8TH RACE BEYERS COMPARED TO THE 2 HORSE IN THESE PP'S
                                                                I'm assuming they are equibase numbers (pace and speed figures)..
                                                                I've noticed that on scale which is the only way you can compare they
                                                                often differ significantly more often than I would think is reasonable. I'll
                                                                look tomorrow at the 8th race at Belmont and see how they line up or don't
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                                                                • JBEX
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 23440

                                                                  #4687
                                                                  Originally posted by harthebar
                                                                  Are you still following the harness ,like these at maywood
                                                                  cuatro cinco 10th really good last week,
                                                                  the other ran
                                                                  All I do in harness is check for those fade lines when you occasionally post the PP'S..
                                                                  They work better there than with the t'breds IMO because of the regularity with which
                                                                  they run, same distance, surface and small changes in class if any at all
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                                                                  • harthebar
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-09-11
                                                                    • 15710

                                                                    #4688
                                                                    What formula is that
                                                                    Originally posted by jbex
                                                                    nice hit on the tri har.. By the formula that crist uses (drf)
                                                                    to determine tri payoffs that number was about right, maybe
                                                                    just a little low
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                                                                    • harthebar
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-09-11
                                                                      • 15710

                                                                      #4689
                                                                      Jbex
                                                                      here you go PP'S

                                                                      [ATTACH]68405[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68407[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68409[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68411[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68413[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68415[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68417[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68419[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68421[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68423[/ATTACH]
                                                                      [ATTACH]68425[/ATTACH]
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                                                                      • harthebar
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-09-11
                                                                        • 15710

                                                                        #4690
                                                                        He won east only paid 4,80

                                                                        Originally posted by harthebar
                                                                        are you still following the harness ,like these at maywood
                                                                        cuatro cinco 10th really good last week,
                                                                        the other ran
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