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MadisonSBR Hall of Famer
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#8541Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
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#8542The Firster winning at 7/8ths is not that difficult if you have pointed to do that. It’s the combo of Rick not cranking them to the moon, and the 1 post that makes it doubly difficult.
He probably just said screw it and will breeze once more and go 3/4’s in 10 days I will assume.Comment -
JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
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#8544Comment -
JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
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#8545done much on the turf is what I mean..i'll take a shot against the favorite who ran well on it at KD..not a lot of depth in hereComment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
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#8546would have to think the big picture with my racehorse is to get horses who wind up being stallions .. my guess is over time and in the future they will have a pretty good batting avg with this..mean around 20% would be excellent imo .. then imagine when that happens it becomes a huge roiComment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
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#8547Straight No Chaser breezed a half mile in :50.20 this morning at Santa Anita under his usual pilot Juan Landeros. By intention, your colt breezed late in the morning for a quiet environment to keep him slowed down as much as possible. Juan said he felt great and visually he looked good doing it. Back at the barn, it was as if he went out for a stroll around the block. All remains great with your son of Speightster.[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report[/COLOR]
interesting to watch and hard to see.... but around the far turn... probably at the top of the stretch when the grey horse started to catch up along the inside.... STC started to get engaged... juan tried to tug back a little but gave just a little enough rein to let stc say" uhm yeah you are not going bye me"
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JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
- 23109
#8548I don't think that was the driving factor.... I believe it was just a thought? business adventure? love of the game/horses ? to get people involved.... in a sport where maybe people have watched/ bet on.... but didn't even think about having a piece( yes very small shares) of a race horse that they can feel" hey I own a smidge" and root and holler ... share the ups and yes downs .... meet each other at gatherings and share a wonderful experience.....
have a hunch I'm missing something here but can't figure out what it is
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batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
- 5981
#8549oh I think the social aspect and getting people involved for a small amount are both nice things..but on the business side you buy a horse for $400-500k you have a shot not only for big earnings but fees that could be in the 10's of millions or more over a decade or so..I go by a modest fee of $25k and cover 100 mares a year ..I believe that's reasonable (the 100) but possible I could have been making the wrong assumption . never had a real reason to exactly know ..10 years or more..most of time that would dwarf the horses on track earnings
have a hunch I'm missing something here but can't figure out what it is
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JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
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#8550With STG MRH sold 90% of the breeding rights.... so 40 shares sold 4 retain with the racing group.... aka known as " I'm a pimp daddy" lol. It leads me to believe that this is solely about racing and not the breeding side...... With Seize the grey... it just opened up a different avenue to experience...Comment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
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#8551Yes.... In the "offering" it wasn't mentioned about "being a stud" but about the racing aspect....Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11581
#8552Straight No Chaser breezed a half mile in :50.20 this morning at Santa Anita under his usual pilot Juan Landeros. By intention, your colt breezed late in the morning for a quiet environment to keep him slowed down as much as possible. Juan said he felt great and visually he looked good doing it. Back at the barn, it was as if he went out for a stroll around the block. All remains great with your son of Speightster.[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report[/COLOR]
interesting to watch and hard to see.... but around the far turn... probably at the top of the stretch when the grey horse started to catch up along the inside.... STC started to get engaged... juan tried to tug back a little but gave just a little enough rein to let stc say" uhm yeah you are not going bye me"
Thanks Batt.Comment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
- 5981
#8554[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Seize the Grey Breeze Report
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Seize the Grey worked first thing this morning, covering five furlongs in :59.40 under the Twin Spires. He did it easily and didn't seem to be going as fast as he apparently was. He remains in great form as the Breeders' Cup approaches.
Interesting about the 50 second mark you can hear the reins " crack" not sure why? On another note it was so quiet that you could actually hear it!
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JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
- 23109
#8555think I found another follow..want to give some thought and will decide tomorrowComment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
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#8558thanks and glad you made some money..I'm not so sure that FJ couldn't go with SNC..he ran less than 2 ticks off the track record while your's was about 8 ticks although santa anita has that ridiculous sub 1:07 track record .. both won vs g2 company..they're certainly not going to do each other any favors in the pace scenario and sure they'll be some other good speed going ..a race I look forward to watching on bc day
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strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11581
#8561[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Seize the Grey Breeze Report
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Seize the Grey worked first thing this morning, covering five furlongs in :59.40 under the Twin Spires. He did it easily and didn't seem to be going as fast as he apparently was. He remains in great form as the Breeders' Cup approaches.
Interesting about the 50 second mark you can hear the reins " crack" not sure why? On another note it was so quiet that you could actually hear it!
That cracking noise is the rider tapping him on the right shoulder with the stick because he was starting to relax past the finish line and they wanted more from a nice gallop out. Watch the riders right arm and elbow just before the crack.
This horse always looks good working in the AM.Comment -
JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
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#8562"fully subscribed"
R1 baq yesterday
2yo filly
won debut by 4+ lengths from rail @ 7f
very professional effort ..not a wire job
meets my pedigree requirements
realize I said at one point I would only do colts so breaking that for this one..headline numbers the other filly ..both trained by chad brown who also has chancer mcpatrick
current list
colts
deterministic ..3yo
world record ..3yo
chancer mcpatrick ..2yo
fillies
headline numbers..3yo
fully subscribed .. 2yo
if interested see on 10/13 "america's day at the races" YT broadcast ..maggie positive comments about 5:00 mark and race itself at 13:00 minute mark
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strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11581
#8563"fully subscribed"
R1 baq yesterday
2yo filly
won debut by 4+ lengths from rail @ 7f
very professional effort ..not a wire job
meets my pedigree requirements
realize I said at one point I would only do colts so breaking that for this one..headline numbers the other filly ..both trained by chad brown who also has chancer mcpatrick
current list
colts
deterministic ..3yo
world record ..3yo
chancer mcpatrick ..2yo
fillies
headline numbers..3yo
fully subscribed .. 2yo
if interested see on 10/13 "america's day at the races" YT broadcast ..maggie positive comments about 5:00 mark and race itself at 13:00 minute mark
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The 1 post presented no problems whatsoever.Comment -
JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
- 23109
#8564
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strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
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JBEXSBR Posting Legend
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#8566Comment -
JBEXSBR Posting Legend
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JBEXSBR Posting Legend
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JBEXSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
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#8570if you missed in my thread thought you'd find interesting
" jose ortiz at horseshoe rides two races and neither one's a stakes race ?? about 175 miles from keeneland
R6 #3 dona witch (8-1)
@ 4:45
R8 #4 storm the streets (4-1)
@ 5:47
parlay or p3 ? "Comment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
- 5981
#8572[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Real Savvy Race Preview
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Real Savvy looks to draw in off the also-eligible list this Saturday in the seventh race at Belmont at the Big A, scheduled for 1 1/16 miles on the turf. With such a large field, we will be keeping our fingers crossed for someone in the main body of the race to scratch so that we can draw into the race.
Your son of Authentic will look to graduate the maiden ranks, following a second-place finish at Saratoga where he was beaten a head by a filly who won her next start in the G3 Miss Grillo S.. Even though that runner’s a filly, that result certainly flattered Real Savvy’s form. Joel Rosario is set to ride your colt, who if able to draw in has a major chance to best this bunch.
We will update you once scratches come out on Saturday morning as to whether or not Real Savvy will be racing. Fingers crossed and best of luck to all owners!
Click here for past performances. Here’s more on the rest of the field:
#1 Bigfoot Sighting: A first time starter going out for the Atras barn, which strikes at 19% with the kind, this son of Bernardini will be ridden by Joel Rosario should we not draw in. If we are lucky enough to get into the race, Rosario will ride our horse and this one will be in search of a new jockey.
#2 Iron Max: Most recently sixth by 11 1/4 in the same race as Real Savvy, this Jeremiah Englehart trainee will have to step up to compete with this bunch.
#3 Firebreathingbrown: Newcomer for a barn that only wins at a 5% clip with firsters. This stat combined with average morning workout times indicate this one might need a race and some experience. Should not be a threat in here.
#4 George Briggs: By first-crop sire Fog of War, who was a Grade 1 winner on turf at two for this same Peter Brant/Chad Brown team, but who has been quiet thus far with his first runners. This colt has had a solid work tab going all the way back to June. Has to be respected in here against this group of juveniles given the connections.
#5 Powered by Coal: Seventh at 50-1 in his last start, the same race where Real Savvy finished second. Will have to improve to be competitive.
#6 Deemer: Son of Slumber was nailed at the wire first time out, earning a 58 Beyer Speed Figure. This one should show improvement here with a race under his belt, and could be a threat in this spot.
#7 Calling Card: Mike Maker trainee stretches out from 5 1/2 furlongs, and if his pedigree is any indication, he should appreciate the added distance. Red-hot rider Dylan Davis has the call on this son of Complexity.
#8 Trinity River: Nearly took the field wire to wire on debut, ultimately getting a bit tired and finishing third, beaten two lengths. With that race under his belt, he should have a bit more stamina for his second start. Coming in off of a bullet half-mile work, look for this Linda Rice trainee to be on the lead.
#9 Sounds Like A Plan: Blinkers go on here for a barn that strikes at an 18% clip with that equipment change. Ran well first time out in a race that came off the turf. Trainer Horacio De Paz elects to run back on the grass, which is a strong indication that it is this son of Twirling Candy’s preferred surface.
#10 Twohonestmischief: This one makes his third start following two races where he earned Beyer Speed Figures in the twenties. Extremely outclassed against this group unless the turf really wakes him up.
#11 Gunner’s Gold: Debuting for a barn that typically specializes more with older claiming horses, this Gunnevera colt is an oddball.
#12 Just Clarity: Not a very strong trainer jockey combo—they’ve won at just 4% since 2023 from 161 starters. Was beaten nearly 20 lengths first out sprinting on the dirt. His pedigree suggests he will like the added distance, and it wouldn’t be a shocker to see him take to the turf.
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batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
- 5981
#8573[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]The Shedrow (Phase 5)
Your son of Not This Time continues the breaking process at Wavertree as he ventures outside of his stall with a rider on for the first time. In this step, your colt can be seen jogging in the shedrow. Here he is getting used to having a rider on his back in a space not as confined as his stall. It is also the first time he has come out of his walk gait with a rider on his back. Enjoy the video above.
Video is in post below
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batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
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batt33SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-23-16
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#8575It was quiet. You could even hear him switch leads back to the left after the wire.
That cracking noise is the rider tapping him on the right shoulder with the stick because he was starting to relax past the finish line and they wanted more from a nice gallop out. Watch the riders right arm and elbow just before the crack.
This horse always looks good working in the AM.Comment
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