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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23136

    #8506
    Originally posted by JBEX
    Thursday
    kee R9
    @ 5:16

    #2 world record (6-5)

    perfect spot..speed of speed ,drops in class and cuts back a furlong..will be an underlay so not advocating a bet
    just a reminder since I posted this 2 days ago..since he probably won't offer any value
    constructed some p3 and p4's around him

    R7 .. 249
    R8 .. 37
    R9 .. 2 WR
    R10 .. 29

    $.50 p4 ($6)
    $1p3 ($4) if R7 loses



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    • JBEX
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-02-12
      • 23136

      #8507
      Originally posted by JBEX
      Thursday
      kee R9
      @ 5:16

      #2 world record (6-5)

      perfect spot..speed of speed ,drops in class and cuts back a furlong..will be an underlay so not advocating a bet
      just a reminder since I posted this 2 days ago..since he probably won't offer any value
      constructed some p3 and p4's around him

      R7 .. 249 (4:12 post)
      R8 .. 37
      R9 .. 2 WR
      R10 .. 29

      $.50 p4 ($6)
      $1 p3 ($4) if R7 loses



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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23136

        #8508
        Originally posted by JBEX
        just a reminder since I posted this 2 days ago..since he probably won't offer any value
        constructed some p3 and p4's around him

        R7 .. 249 (4:12 post)
        R8 .. 37
        R9 .. 2 WR
        R10 .. 29

        $.50 p4 ($6)
        $1 p3 ($4) if R7 loses



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        odds hints..morning line of all in first leg and #3 second leg are within 1 +/- of 5-1..#7 second leg 10-1

        world record (6-5)

        final leg 6-1 and 10-1 respectively




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        • JBEX
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 23136

          #8509
          world record

          5 races

          4 straight rail posts

          2 post today and #1 is scratched

          in debut 2 post in 11 horse field..


          amazing
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          • batt33
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-23-16
            • 5981

            #8510
            Originally posted by JBEX
            just a reminder since I posted this 2 days ago..since he probably won't offer any value
            constructed some p3 and p4's around him

            R7 .. 249 (4:12 post)
            R8 .. 37
            R9 .. 2 WR
            R10 .. 29

            $.50 p4 ($6)
            $1 p3 ($4) if R7 loses



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            Good luck ! I'll take a look. I was thinking along those lines to get a little value. Inside post again?? Geezo..
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23136

              #8511
              Originally posted by batt33
              Good luck ! I'll take a look. I was thinking along those lines to get a little value. Inside post again?? Geezo..

              thanks

              4 and 7 scratched as you might have seen already..only 4 combos with what I gave out
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              • batt33
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-23-16
                • 5981

                #8512
                Yeah saw that..
                P-4
                2,5,10,13
                3,10,
                2
                5,6,8
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23136

                  #8513
                  Originally posted by batt33
                  Yeah saw that..
                  P-4
                  2,5,10,13
                  3,10,
                  2
                  5,6,8
                  ok..bol
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                  • batt33
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-23-16
                    • 5981

                    #8514
                    well that wasn't a way to start...
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                    • JBEX
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 23136

                      #8515
                      Originally posted by batt33
                      well that wasn't a way to start...
                      right idea ..bad execution
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                      • batt33
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-23-16
                        • 5981

                        #8516
                        WR showed a new dynamic there!.... able to find some room and close....You could see Prat looking to his right around the far turn.... hoping to find a spot to shift outside.... Not your normal Prat ride.... Paco Lopez yes... Flavien no...
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                        • batt33
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-23-16
                          • 5981

                          #8517
                          [COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Caldera Breeze Report
                          [/COLOR]
                          Caldera turned in a very stellar breeze from the gate this morning at Churchill Downs with jockey Jaime Torres aboard. He worked inside of an unnamed Union Rags colt who he has worked with before. Caldera stumbled a tiny bit in the first few jumps, but quickly recovered and from that point his mate struggled to keep up. Caldera was credited with a half in :49.20, while his workmate was clocked in :49.40. He galloped out very nicely and the barn was very happy with what he showed in his first gate work.
                          While this was not another blazing-fast breeze like Caldera’s prior recorded works, that is of no concern whatsoever. He was not asked to go that fast, and we already know he’s very fast. Learning how to relax and then finish is just as important for a young horse as speed is (if not more so), and it’s just not realistic or even desirable for a horse to fire a bullet every single time they work.
                          This was definitely another positive step in Caldera’s development and preparation.

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                          • batt33
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-23-16
                            • 5981

                            #8518
                            Found this interesting STR! Did you have those back in the day
                            [COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Real Savvy Workout Report
                            [/COLOR]
                            Real Savvy had a solid work this morning according to assistant trainer Miguel Clement, covering five furlongs in 1:03.99 over the Oklahoma dirt track at Saratoga. He breezed in company with multiple stakes-winning stablemate and champion New York-bred female turf horse Silver Skillet.
                            Equipped this morning with an Arioneo device, which collects cardio, locomotion, and GPS data during the work, your son of Authentic reached a max speed of 38.8 MPH and max heart rate of 208. He completed his quickest three furlongs in :36.50 and half in :50.25.
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                            • str
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 11598

                              #8519
                              Nice to see that World Record was able to rate, albeit inside which is tough for a horse like him. Excellent effort overall.

                              Hard to believe this horse has drawn inside for every race. If he had drawn outside for every race, he would be a stalker. The post makes you do certain things but give credit to the horse for being able to follow instructions from the rider and keep his composure.
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                              • str
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-12-09
                                • 11598

                                #8520
                                Originally posted by batt33
                                [COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Caldera Breeze Report
                                [/COLOR]
                                Caldera turned in a very stellar breeze from the gate this morning at Churchill Downs with jockey Jaime Torres aboard. He worked inside of an unnamed Union Rags colt who he has worked with before. Caldera stumbled a tiny bit in the first few jumps, but quickly recovered and from that point his mate struggled to keep up. Caldera was credited with a half in :49.20, while his workmate was clocked in :49.40. He galloped out very nicely and the barn was very happy with what he showed in his first gate work.
                                While this was not another blazing-fast breeze like Caldera’s prior recorded works, that is of no concern whatsoever. He was not asked to go that fast, and we already know he’s very fast. Learning how to relax and then finish is just as important for a young horse as speed is (if not more so), and it’s just not realistic or even desirable for a horse to fire a bullet every single time they work.
                                This was definitely another positive step in Caldera’s development and preparation.


                                Oh man Batt. You are killing me with these memory flash backs. Just kidding, they are very much appreciated. Never did that at Pimlico as it was dangerous and difficult to be back at the gate where it was positioned when on foot.
                                But Bowie ? God yes ! I learned so very much from my travels back there early in my carrier. I did not know anything about the gate process when I started training. Those guys especially Danny Fitchett and Donnie Willingham, two of the very best I ever saw, taught me sooooo much about gate work and what THEY wished trainers would do to help their horses be better prepared. I followed their advise to the letter with great results. I won more than just a few races because of their expertise. So fun to drive up to the gate area and be standing right there just feet from the gate. Another heart squeeze.

                                100% agree with the bold type. You work for the show but you run for the dough. Most races start at the 1/4 pole.
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                                • str
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-12-09
                                  • 11598

                                  #8521
                                  Originally posted by batt33
                                  Found this interesting STR! Did you have those back in the day
                                  [COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Real Savvy Workout Report
                                  [/COLOR]
                                  Real Savvy had a solid work this morning according to assistant trainer Miguel Clement, covering five furlongs in 1:03.99 over the Oklahoma dirt track at Saratoga. He breezed in company with multiple stakes-winning stablemate and champion New York-bred female turf horse Silver Skillet.
                                  Equipped this morning with an Arioneo device, which collects cardio, locomotion, and GPS data during the work, your son of Authentic reached a max speed of 38.8 MPH and max heart rate of 208. He completed his quickest three furlongs in :36.50 and half in :50.25.
                                  Nope. One Mississippi, Two Mississippi was the fad back in the stone age.


                                  Horse went 48 Mississippi's and a Mississip.
                                  Last edited by str; 10-11-24, 10:23 AM.
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23136

                                    #8522
                                    Originally posted by str
                                    Nice to see that World Record was able to rate, albeit inside which is tough for a horse like him. Excellent effort overall.

                                    Hard to believe this horse has drawn inside for every race. If he had drawn outside for every race, he would be a stalker. The post makes you do certain things but give credit to the horse for being able to follow instructions from the rider and keep his composure.
                                    yeah it was nice to see him able to do that under normal circumstances..i'm excluding his debut where not liking the kickback forced the issue


                                    looked like in about the first 10 or 11 seconds of the race prat gave up on the idea of getting the lead..do you think the energy put in to trying might have taken a little something out of him late in the race ? it's different than just settling in from the beginning and knowing that's the strategy

                                    agree with you if his average post was around the middle there would have probably been more stalking efforts in his races

                                    side note .. churchill has an amazing opening day card on 10/27 featuring ALL 2yo races !!
                                    sprints,routes,turf (for restricted and open msw) allowance and of course stakes ..maybe we'll see "caldera" then batt .. many other spots later in the meet of course

                                    excited to see him run batt .. I think the liam's map and understanding the name reference combined is really amazing! .. "witchcraft" lol





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                                    • JBEX
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 23136

                                      #8523
                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                      yeah it was nice to see him able to do that under normal circumstances..i'm excluding his debut where not liking the kickback forced the issue


                                      looked like in about the first 10 or 11 seconds of the race prat gave up on the idea of getting the lead..do you think the energy put in to trying might have taken a little something out of him late in the race ? it's different than just settling in from the beginning and knowing that's the strategy

                                      agree with you if his average post was around the middle there would have probably been more stalking efforts in his races

                                      side note .. churchill has an amazing opening day card on 10/27 featuring ALL 2yo races !!
                                      sprints,routes,turf (for restricted and open msw) allowance and of course stakes ..maybe we'll see "caldera" then batt .. many other spots later in the meet of course

                                      excited to see him run batt .. I think the liam's map and understanding the name reference combined is really amazing! .. "witchcraft" lol





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                                      actually it was from a horse shutting him off going into the turn




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                                      • JBEX
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 23136

                                        #8524
                                        R3 meadowlands
                                        @ 7:56

                                        clm 5000n1y (6 months) or n3l
                                        ..that's what meadowlands has a lot of ..conditions for turf near or at the bottom on the east coast ..maybe CT or penn national ?

                                        both an army mule and liam's map going..if it were just one wouldn't mention it

                                        #6 velikiy (15-1) AM
                                        #11 liplock (8-1) LM
                                        Last edited by JBEX; 10-11-24, 04:43 PM.
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23136

                                          #8525
                                          Originally posted by JBEX
                                          R3 meadowlands
                                          @ 7:56

                                          clm 5000n1y (6 months) or n3l
                                          ..that's what meadowlands has a lot of ..conditions for turf near or at the bottom on the east coast ..maybe CT or penn national ?

                                          both an army mule and liam's map going..if it were just one wouldn't mention it

                                          #6 velikiy (15-1) AM
                                          #11 liplock (8-1) LM
                                          another AM in R4

                                          #2 molly's a bullet (9-2)






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                                          • batt33
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-23-16
                                            • 5981

                                            #8526
                                            Originally posted by JBEX
                                            another AM in R4

                                            #2 molly's a bullet (9-2)






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                                            I wasn't paying much attention.... until too late....Army Mule first race at Fresno.... and of course he won.....
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                                            • batt33
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-23-16
                                              • 5981

                                              #8527
                                              Originally posted by str
                                              Oh man Batt. You are killing me with these memory flash backs. Just kidding, they are very much appreciated. Never did that at Pimlico as it was dangerous and difficult to be back at the gate where it was positioned when on foot.
                                              But Bowie ? God yes ! I learned so very much from my travels back there early in my carrier. I did not know anything about the gate process when I started training. Those guys especially Danny Fitchett and Donnie Willingham, two of the very best I ever saw, taught me sooooo much about gate work and what THEY wished trainers would do to help their horses be better prepared. I followed their advise to the letter with great results. I won more than just a few races because of their expertise. So fun to drive up to the gate area and be standing right there just feet from the gate. Another heart squeeze.

                                              100% agree with the bold type. You work for the show but you run for the dough. Most races start at the 1/4 pole.
                                              I enjoy sharing the video's! and I appreciate that MRH does all these different ones.... Just to show different aspects of what goes on "behind the scenes" . Even better is you having stories to share along with them and pointing out small things about the horse!

                                              I will have to give a shout out to "Michael Behrens " CEO of MRH... in the Facebook blogs he has been real active in answering questions ,sharing things with people just getting into the "game" and understanding the financials... especially with STG with what he is doing. He could easily shut down with the 1000's of owners constantly asking basic questions( even though we try to jump in first and sometimes it works) and he has a life ....lol
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                                              • batt33
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 12-23-16
                                                • 5981

                                                #8528
                                                Originally posted by str
                                                Nope. One Mississippi, Two Mississippi was the fad back in the stone age.


                                                Horse went 48 Mississippi's and a Mississip.
                                                HAHA STR that was a strictly "Tongue in cheek "comment! with the arioneo device! figured I would get a chuckle from you
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                                                • JBEX
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 23136

                                                  #8529
                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                  another AM in R4

                                                  #2 molly's a bullet (9-2)






                                                  .

                                                  2nd @ 10-1..$44 horse won

                                                  R3 (cheapie race) last and 2nd to last .. both at big odds




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                                                  • str
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                    • 11598

                                                    #8530
                                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                                    R3 meadowlands
                                                    @ 7:56

                                                    clm 5000n1y (6 months) or n3l
                                                    ..that's what meadowlands has a lot of ..conditions for turf near or at the bottom on the east coast ..maybe CT or penn national ?

                                                    both an army mule and liam's map going..if it were just one wouldn't mention it

                                                    #6 velikiy (15-1) AM
                                                    #11 liplock (8-1) LM
                                                    No C.T. turf but yes, Penn. Nat. used to have some but it is rare to find and a great idea.
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                                                    • str
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                      • 11598

                                                      #8531
                                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                                      another AM in R4

                                                      #2 molly's a bullet (9-2)






                                                      .
                                                      Originally posted by batt33
                                                      I wasn't paying much attention.... until too late....Army Mule first race at Fresno.... and of course he won.....
                                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                                      2nd @ 10-1..$44 horse won

                                                      R3 (cheapie race) last and 2nd to last .. both at big odds




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                                                      If someone just wants some action, you can darn near bet the Army Mules blind to win. And place if the price is right.

                                                      They are so game.
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                                                      • str
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                        • 11598

                                                        #8532
                                                        Originally posted by batt33
                                                        I enjoy sharing the video's! and I appreciate that MRH does all these different ones.... Just to show different aspects of what goes on "behind the scenes" . Even better is you having stories to share along with them and pointing out small things about the horse!

                                                        I will have to give a shout out to "Michael Behrens " CEO of MRH... in the Facebook blogs he has been real active in answering questions ,sharing things with people just getting into the "game" and understanding the financials... especially with STG with what he is doing. He could easily shut down with the 1000's of owners constantly asking basic questions( even though we try to jump in first and sometimes it works) and he has a life ....lol
                                                        Owner participation in this type of thing is so important. Taking the time to answer questions is vital in this type of setup.
                                                        Glad to see they do it. It makes a difference I would imagine. Nobody wants to put up money and have no idea what's going on. That gets boring quickly.
                                                        It's a very smart business model IMO.
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                                                        • JBEX
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23136

                                                          #8533
                                                          Originally posted by str
                                                          No C.T. turf but yes, Penn. Nat. used to have some but it is rare to find and a great idea.
                                                          yes I meant mountaineer park ..confused because of same state ..often full fields and are fun races to bet ..shows it's a good spot for a lot of horses
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                                                          • JBEX
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 23136

                                                            #8534
                                                            would have to think the big picture with my racehorse is to get horses who wind up being stallions .. my guess is over time and in the future they will have a pretty good batting avg with this..mean around 20% would be excellent imo .. then imagine when that happens it becomes a huge roi
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23136

                                                              #8535
                                                              rick dutrow has a first time starter at baq by liam's map #1 take home the cup (20-1)..7f and a 2yo ..breaking from the rail and a bad jock doesn't help matters..he probably would be happy to get a good effort out of him..anyway thought you'd find interesting
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23136

                                                                #8536
                                                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                rick dutrow has a first time starter at baq by liam's map #1 take home the cup (20-1)..7f and a 2yo ..breaking from the rail and a bad jock doesn't help matters..he probably would be happy to get a good effort out of him..anyway thought you'd find interesting
                                                                race 6
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                                                                • str
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 11598

                                                                  #8537
                                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                  rick dutrow has a first time starter at baq by liam's map #1 take home the cup (20-1)..7f and a 2yo ..breaking from the rail and a bad jock doesn't help matters..he probably would be happy to get a good effort out of him..anyway thought you'd find interesting
                                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                  race 6
                                                                  Thanks JBEX.

                                                                  1 post going 7/8ths is real tough especially for a firster. Rick does not crank them up to the moon as you know so probably a good one to watch for subtle signs knowing no mater today's result , this horse will be better in race 2 and better still in race 3.
                                                                  The Dutrow way.
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                                                                  • JBEX
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23136

                                                                    #8538
                                                                    Originally posted by str
                                                                    Thanks JBEX.

                                                                    1 post going 7/8ths is real tough especially for a firster. Rick does not crank them up to the moon as you know so probably a good one to watch for subtle signs knowing no mater today's result , this horse will be better in race 2 and better still in race 3.
                                                                    The Dutrow way.
                                                                    no problem str..deterministic won first out @ 7f but this one much different..other pedigree credentials (including cost..this a homebred) nowhere near DM
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                                                                    • JBEX
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23136

                                                                      #8539
                                                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                      no problem str..deterministic won first out @ 7f but this one much different..other pedigree credentials (including cost..this a homebred) nowhere near DM
                                                                      the first time LM at kee in my thread more interesting at a price ..fts going 2 turns on turf .. not cheap at auction either
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23136

                                                                        #8540
                                                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                        the first time LM at kee in my thread more interesting at a price ..fts going 2 turns on turf .. not cheap at auction either
                                                                        apologize..2nd time starter
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