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[Wanna Bet On It?]

You know who the worst poster on here is? [you]

[MMAbetMASTA]

I guess it's java or some sh*t, I don't know how it works either, NUnya might know the term for it! It's like if u type "penis" it comes out with "rooster"! If u do this: [ then put "you" then ] it makes the user looking at it see their own user name. So if DirtyX logs in and reads it it will say "Everytime you write a story about me, Dirty X just say I'm too old...." as when I copied the quote by Koscheck the report had this (you) in to show tht Koscheck was referring to the reporters who were interviewing him! Hard to explain!

Ahhhhh, I see now. Haha, that's interesting, so everyone who looks at it will see their user name in it... got it. Cheers.

[Vaughany]

You know who the worst poster on here is? [you]

haha very good

[Beelzebubzy]

You know who the worst poster on here is? [you]

Do you know who the best poster on here is? Beelzebubzy.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Do you know who the best poster on here is? MMAbetMASTA.

Thanks man haha...

[Beelzebubzy]

silly me, i made a typo

[TheCalculator]

You know who the worst poster on here is? [you]

Thank you. Cool to see I'm taking up real estate in your brain.

LOL -- just re-read the older posts and caught up on the joke. lol

[Grabaka]

Oh i get it now
I thought you were pulling my leg foreals

[NunyaBidness]

Somebody may not be in on the joke.

[Beelzebubzy]

I feel like a 5 point fine is required for all of those who did not get the joke after two posts.
Also, I am fining Chandler 5 points as well. Please pay our resident sheriff, Nunya, the fine.

[fosho14]

Wasn't Hendricks outwrestled by Story?

I watched that fight and it was razor thin, and hendricks definitely did not get outwrestled by story (wrestling was about even). Hendricks threw story to the ground a few times and Hendricks was never really kept down by story long at all he quickly got back to his feet every time. I think Hendricks got out struck by story marginally, which is why he dropped the decision. I believe hendricks striking has come a long way since then and he is really putting it together right now.

Are you gonna bet on this fight, or do you think it's a no play. I think hendricks will win, but since it is so competitive it's only gonna be a small play on him.

[Beelzebubzy]

For Hendricks bettors, he spent alot of time training for wrestling for the Fitch fight. I am assuming he did it for thie fight as well.

[Vaughany]

I feel like a 5 point fine is required for all of those who did not get the joke after two posts.
Also, I am fining Chandler 5 points as well. Please pay our resident sheriff, Nunya, the fine.

Blades?

[Vaughany]

Yeah, he said that it was the Story loss tht made him realise he needs to keep working on his wrestling. Apparently he didnt train much wrestling before the Story fight as he got in to his comfort zone. Now he spends a lot of time back at Oklahoma State

[NunyaBidness]

I watched that fight and it was razor thin, and hendricks definitely did not get outwrestled by story (wrestling was about even). Hendricks threw story to the ground a few times and Hendricks was never really kept down by story long at all he quickly got back to his feet every time. I think Hendricks got out struck by story marginally, which is why he dropped the decision. I believe hendricks striking has come a long way since then and he is really putting it together right now.

Are you gonna bet on this fight, or do you think it's a no play. I think hendricks will win, but since it is so competitive it's only gonna be a small play on him.

I bet Hendricks early as a steam play. If line stays where it is I'll let it ride and assume the market knows something. If Koscheck hits +130 range I'll arb through and have exposure on Koscheck.

[fosho14]

However, I disagree with your talk of credentials. Credentials are great but as we've seen throughout mma's history, there is collegiate wrestling and there is mma wrestling.

Sorry ya I totally agree with that, what I meant to say is "I think Hendricks overall mma-wrestling capabilities are strong enough to keep this on the feet." The fact that he is 2 time national champ is icing on the cake, but even ignoring that I actually believe in Hendricks wrestling, and I guess I don't believe its as bad as a lot of ppl on here think it is. A lot of ppl on here aren't really mentioning the fact that koschecks wrestling was somewhat weak against pierce (someone who most believed to be a lower caliber wrestler). At the end of the day I have no idea what is going to happen in this fight, but what I was trying to state in my original post was that the wrestling of both guys will probably cancel each other out, and I see this as a stand up battle with hendricks edging Kos. Koscheck's striking stopped improving a long time ago, I think it's plateaued. Hendricks on the other hand seems to be getting better, and I'm not just saying that because he got a flashy KO against fitch. I don't think very highly of Kos's striking. Maybe I'll look dumb, but those are my thoughts - Hendricks by decison or early KO.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Sorry ya I totally agree with that, what I meant to say is "I think Hendricks overall mma-wrestling capabilities are strong enough to keep this on the feet." The fact that he is 2 time national champ is icing on the cake, but even ignoring that I actually believe in Hendricks wrestling, and I guess I don't believe its as bad as a lot of ppl on here think it is. A lot of ppl on here aren't really mentioning the fact that koschecks wrestling was somewhat weak against pierce (someone who most believed to be a lower caliber wrestler). At the end of the day I have no idea what is going to happen in this fight, but what I was trying to state in my original post was that the wrestling of both guys will probably cancel each other out, and I see this as a stand up battle with hendricks edging Kos. Koscheck's striking stopped improving a long time ago, I think it's plateaued. Hendricks on the other hand seems to be getting better, and I'm not just saying that because he got a flashy KO against fitch. I don't think very highly of Kos's striking. Maybe I'll look dumb, but those are my thoughts - Hendricks by decison or early KO.

Not dumb at all man, its def possible that either of our proposed scenarios for this fight plays out... Hendricks KO or razor thin decision for one of these two.

And V brought up a good point about john's story loss... In retrospect after that story losss, I'm sure johnny realized he needs to keep his wrestling sharp and continue a focus on it, even despite his great credentials. HIs tdd and defensively grappling seemed to have improved, because I think pierce is a better grinder than story and he had less success with the close quarters grappling. But that fight was damn close and I think kos is a tad bit better than pierce in the wrasslin so who knows!!!!! GL tomorrow.

[Vaughany]

I bet Hendricks early as a steam play. If line stays where it is I'll let it ride and assume the market knows something. If Koscheck hits +130 range I'll arb through and have exposure on Koscheck.

Planning on doing same. Hit Hendricks at +110 and Evens before it changed, tempted to play Kos by decision but will probably just arb. Got Fight starts round 2 in a few parlays so might leave those as a hedge and wait and see if they are still alive just before the Kos fight

[TheCalculator]

Skill trending is what I'm looking at. I think Kos has peaked (not saying he's fading a lot -- but I think he's slowly on the descent). Hendricks is trending UP and still progressing A LOT fight to fight.

[DirtyX]

You know who the worst poster on here is? [you]

Serious.....?

[Vaughany]

Serious.....?

U need to read the previous two pages brah!

[fosho14]

Is there enough value in belcher? his jitz and submission defense are solid but he'll still need to keep this on the feet. he'll have the stand up advantage. How bad is his TDD? What are the chances that Belcher is able to keep this on the feet enough to earn the win? Don't feel like re-watching a bunch of belcher tape lol.

appreciate any answers to these questions from ppl who are aware of his take down defense ability

[NunyaBidness]

Serious.....?

Deposit 5 points here, please.

[Beelzebubzy]

Deposit 5 points here, please.

Please note: This is a serious post. You owe Nunya 5 points as per the new board policy and taxation

[Vaughany]

Is there enough value in belcher? his jitz and submission defense are solid but he'll still need to keep this on the feet. he'll have the stand up advantage. How bad is his TDD? What are the chances that Belcher is able to keep this on the feet enough to earn the win? Don't feel like re-watching a bunch of belcher tape lol.

As far as I remember Belcher has been taken down by whoever has wanted/attempted to take him down! Kang won the first round of there fight through takedowns. Akiyama spent some time on top which probably helped him steal a round and the fight. Jason MacDonald even kind of managed to pull guard on him. And Im not sure where he has shown solid sub defence? He hasnt really faced anybody tht offered a legit threat or at least anywhere near the threat Palhares poses. He got subbed by Kendall Grove years ago, other than tht the most dangerous sub guy he has faced is a fossilized Jason MacDonald who is fighting for a pay check now.

[fosho14]

faced quite a few black belts and only has 1 sub loss (quite awhile ago) and has submitted a lot of ppl himself but based on the quality of opposition I can see your point in that it's not exactly "solid" I guess. It's not looking like there's much value in belcher as he's almost certainly going to be taken down during at least 1 point in the fight and palhares's ground game is so good that he'll most likely capitalize. I just hate the current price of palhares.

[Wanna Bet On It?]

I love how many people keep getting tricked by this brilliant troll script.

Kudos to V for figuring it out.

[GunShard]

You know who the worst poster on here is? [you]

I see it when I edit thread. it says "you" in the html

[v1y]

lol amazing. i was totally had.

[Educ8d Degener8]

I spend a couple of days away from the board, preoccupied watching M.A.S.K. episodes, and come back to this sh*t!

You guys are d*cks.

j/k

If Hendricks gets more steam, I'll be betting Koscheck. Someone raised a good point in V's thread about identifying when a fighter has peaked and has started to decline; and this is critical in mma because it often manifests itself over one or two bouts... but I don't think Kos is falling off that precipice just yet. In saying that, I'm kinda giving him a pass in that Pierce fight though, admittedly.

[fosho14]

palhares needs this badly.

http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/5/3/2997506/rousimar-palhares-says-sports-psychologist-will-make-difference

"My head's right here on my shoulders, thank god." Haha.

[BIGDAY]

Lol, I was going to say that you are correct. I SUK. Lol

[PROFIT MACHINE]

I have one huge bet I feel very good about. Parlay miller and Ferguson.

[DirtyX]

Is anyone paying the price of Ferguson (-260), Barry (-200) or Palhares (-280) straight up?

[Educ8d Degener8]

Is anyone paying the price of Ferguson (-260), Barry (-200) or Palhares (-280) straight up?

I can't stand Michael Johnson, but won't pay that on Ferguson.

Paul Harris is one of my favorite fighters, but I won't fade Belcher at -280.

Might look at the props on those fights...