UFC on Versus 4

[Kaladarus]

Do they alert only when a line changes, or when new lines are up? Cuz man...Story at +140 would have been sweet.

You pick the event and the fight or fights that you're interested in and they send you an alert as soon as the line is up for your particular sportsbook or for all sportsbooks.. They don't notify you on the line movement they just tell you when the new lines are up. It's very easy you should check it out.

[NickBaragona]

Thanks, thats awesome. Wish I would have known about that before. I thought it just notified you when the line changed, which would be annoying lol.

[poopoo333]

I really like Brenneman to beat Grant. Anybody agree/disagree?

[Hannibal]

Will morecraft be able to get mitrione down and do it before he eats too many strikes?
Meatthead is particularly weak in the realm of wrestling, and he hasn't shown the ability to get up from the bottom.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

wow, Marquardt opens at -180 now at even money on 5Dimes, people are on Story here

[Vaughany]

I really like Brenneman to beat Grant. Anybody agree/disagree?

Brenneman by decision for me

[Nick The Greek]

Morecraft is all the way up to +220 right now!

[poopoo333]

Brenneman by decision for me

I agree...but I doubt 5 dimes or Bookmaker get props for the facebook prelim fights.


Matt Brown is +200 now too. I think the line is off on that one.

[Hannibal]

I agree...but I doubt 5 dimes or Bookmaker get props for the facebook prelim fights. Matt Brown is +200 now too. I think the line is off on that one.

i agree
howard hasnt impressed me at all

[robotralph]

All in on pat barry right now. Kongo is way too 1 dimensional. Barry by leg kicks.

[NunyaBidness]

All in on pat barry right now. Kongo is way too 1 dimensional. Barry by leg kicks.

Have you ever watched either of them fight? If Kongo is too 1 dimensional, Barry is asymptotical.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

yea if anyone is gonna take this to the ground its gonna be Kongo

[Ladle]

I really like Brenneman to beat Grant. Anybody agree/disagree?

I also favour Brenneman, in spite of how one dimensional he is. Grant's a lot better on the feet, but his takedown defense isn't good. Grant will probably use his butterfly guard to consistently get back up, but I imagine he'll just be taken down again. It's a shame, really; Grant would be awesome if he developed some decent defensive wrestling.

Matt Brown is +200 now too. I think the line is off on that one.

Yup, it is.

[Johan_Haas_]

I really like to pick Morecraft at +200, he is big with a lot of weight, heavy hands and is hard to get down too, als his cardio is decent. Only downside to him is that his striking isn't that technical. Mittrione hasn't impressed me that much

[NickBaragona]

How do you guys determine when to place your bet? I got Story at -130 because I figured it would fall more,a and now he is +110! Ugh...

[rocky mattioli]

How do you guys determine when to place your bet? I got Story at -130 because I figured it would fall more,a and now he is +110! Ugh...

i wouldn`t beat myself up...this is one of the crazier opening line moves i`ve seen....this line`s gone up and down more than a bungee jumper with adhd....

went from -180 marquardt to -130 story and is now back up to -150 nate....
i don`t know how anyone can read this one...

[urge2kill]

-160 Story now. Crazy.

[NickBaragona]

Now my -130 doesn't seem so bad after all.

[scofflaw]

I really like to pick Morecraft at +200, he is big with a lot of weight, heavy hands and is hard to get down too, als his cardio is decent. Only downside to him is that his striking isn't that technical. Mittrione hasn't impressed me that much

I put a decent play on him because I think this fight should valued much closer. If Morecraft is able to close the distance I think he wins the fight. He's got a solid top game, heavy gnp and good grappling. I think he has more ways to win than Mitrione does. The guy is huge too, 6'6 265lbs. He's also younger and comes into every fight in better physical condition.

Mitrione looks good too. Superior on the feet with great foot work. I can see Matt drop a slick counter punch to Morecraft's jaw to end this fight quickly. I'm not that impressed with who he's beaten, but he looked great against Hague.

Morecraft > Mitrione
Story > Marquardt
Howard > Brown
Kongo > Barry

[Educ8d Degener8]

John Howard -270...

[sirchadwick1]

People are seriously going to pay that for john freaking Howard?

[thesox0311]

Still cant believe Nate is at +105 at my book. I really thought this fight would open around -200 considering Story just fought, and hes not in the same class as Nate. So confused why anyone would take Story in this fight at that line.

[Joweman]

I love the value on morecraft in thia fight. ALtho meathead impressed me to no end last fight :S

[snake11eyes]

People are seriously going to pay that for john freaking Howard?

No way I'm liking Brown even more now.

[koscheckbaby]

Surprised so many are on Morecraft, although I can understand, since Mitrione has been taken down a lot in his short career. However, Morecraft got TKO'd by friggin piece of shit Struve. Just don't think he's gonna like getting hit by Meat's straight punches and nasty leg kicks. At HW, Meat just has to hit Morecraft coming in once or twice to end this. And we've seen Morecraft be finished by Struve, so he doesn't have an iron chin or anything.

I think Meat by TKO/KO is the play for this fight. My guess is Meat's lack of wrestling will cost him sooner than later, but Morecraft isn't good enough to be the one. Perhaps Mitrione gets Kongo after they both win.

[Lusty_Argonian]

4units on a Marquadt, Kongo, Wanderlei, DHK parlay

10units on a Kongo/Morecraft parlay



Thanks for the line, Story and Barry bandwagoners!

[scofflaw]

However, Morecraft got TKO'd by friggin piece of shit Struve. Just don't think he's gonna like getting hit by Meat's straight punches and nasty leg kicks. At HW, Meat just has to hit Morecraft coming in once or twice to end this. And we've seen Morecraft be finished by Struve, so he doesn't have an iron chin or anything.

I don't think you actually watched his fight vs Struve. Morecraft had dominated the whole first round (almost a 10-8). When they came out to touch gloves in the 2nd, Struve threw a kick almost while the gloves were touching. Morecraft got angry and turned it into an especially sloppy brawl. Don't discredit the punches Struve hit him with either, they were nasty. If this hadn't happened, we'd be looking at a very close line with two hyped, undefeated prospects.

[koscheckbaby]

I don't think you actually watched his fight vs Struve. Morecraft had dominated the whole first round (almost a 10-8). When they came out to touch gloves in the 2nd, Struve threw a kick almost while the gloves were touching. Morecraft got angry and turned it into an especially sloppy brawl. Don't discredit the punches Struve hit him with either, they were nasty. If this hadn't happened, we'd be looking at a very close line with two hyped, undefeated prospects.

I watched the fight. The end result is Morecraft got TKO'd by piece of shit Struve.. If Struve can finish him, I can only imagine how Morecraft will take Meat's punches right on the button.

[spurginobili]

I can't believe Rick Story is fighting again so soon. Two fights in less than a month is unheard of these days in the UFC.

[Ladle]

I favour Mitrione due to the significant stand-up advantage, but should Morecraft really be +215? Gotta play that. Just like the Brown/Howard fight, that line should absolutely be closer.

[illmatick]

No doubt Mitrione should be the favorite but the way the line has stagnated around +200 is baffling to me. Good offensive fighter but he was there to be hit throughout his entire fight with Beltran. If morecraft connects with some of those same shots I think Mitrione gets put to sleep. If i recall correctly, Beltran hurt and rocked him early in the fight. I think Morecraft has a lot more ways to win here.

Didn't Beltran also take Mitrione down a few times? That's gotta bode well for Morecraft.

Pinnacle is hanging +235 right now. I would be shocked if the late money didnt push the line back down to +180 or lower.

[koscheckbaby]

No doubt Mitrione should be the favorite but the way the line has stagnated around +200 is baffling to me. Good offensive fighter but he was there to be hit throughout his entire fight with Beltran. If morecraft connects with some of those same shots I think Mitrione gets put to sleep. If i recall correctly, Beltran hurt and rocked him early in the fight. I think Morecraft has a lot more ways to win here.

Didn't Beltran also take Mitrione down a few times? That's gotta bode well for Morecraft.

Pinnacle is hanging +235 right now. I would be shocked if the late money didnt push the line back down to +180 or lower.

Morecraft wouldn't be able to take the shots Beltran took in order to get off his own. Beltran is insanely durable and tough. Mitrione was lighting him up all fight. Beltran did rock him briefly, but that was during a wild brawling exchange where Beltran took a bunch of shots unfazed. Morecraft's only chance is the takedown route.

I do recall Beltran getting Mitrione down in the 1st and landing some meaningful GNP, but Mitrione was able to dominate the standup and keep it standing the rest of the fight.

[scofflaw]

For what it's worth, here are the two recent face off pictures with Morecraft. In those 6 months he packed on decent muscle and lost fat. I expect Friday we see Morecraft in his best shape yet.

vs Struve (Aug 7 2010)
vs McCorkle (Mar 26 2011)

[Ladle]

I do recall Beltran getting Mitrione down in the 1st and landing some meaningful GNP, but Mitrione was able to dominate the standup and keep it standing the rest of the fight.

I think it's important to remember that Morecraft is a better wrestler than Beltran, as well as being physically bigger and stronger. If Beltran was able to win the first round against Mitrione by using his limited wrestling, you've got to think that Morecraft has a considerably better shot at winning this fight than the odds indicate. Christ, he's +225 on 5dimes right now. Shrewd MMA bettors should be all over that line.

[sideloaded]

I think it's important to remember that Morecraft is a better wrestler than Beltran, as well as being physically bigger and stronger. If Beltran was able to win the first round against Mitrione by using his limited wrestling, you've got to think that Morecraft has a considerably better shot at winning this fight than the odds indicate. Christ, he's +225 on 5dimes right now. Shrewd MMA bettors should be all over that line.

Completely agree here.