At the UFC 122 Rogan said Rampage was training hard for this after coming into the Evans fight in bad shape. Not sure if that will matter much vs Machida
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They got the machine kicking in over time to make this fight seem like its going to be competitive. I highly doubt that it will beComment -
Probably not been much talk on Harris because he's a big favourite at -300. But you're right, "Big Rig" does look like he may have cardio issues if it goes past the 1st round. He also seems to usually fight at light-heavy and heavyweight so is going to be cutting a lot of weight. So with a big weight cut combined with the fact that he hasnt been past the 1st round since 2008 and not past the 2nd round since he got TKO'd by Maldonado in 2007 = high chance of him gassing and getting KO'd or TKO'd in second or third round unless he can get an early sub or TKO but Harris should have the movement and takedown defence to prevent Falcao from getting him down. I'll probly be taking Harris by TKO/KO at +150 or better. Falcao has been TKO'd by Daniel Ludtke who has a record of 5-6 but did redeem that loss last year. Only other losses have been to Maldonado but none of his wins were against anybody with impressive records. He looks like a Wanderlei Silva mould fighter who just goes guns blazing straight away.Last edited by Vaughany; 11-14-10, 04:35 PM.Comment -
Machida,Penn,Lauzon,Munoz,Griffen should all win easily.Comment -
Totally agree on your breakdown here. Simpson is just a bit better in striking and wrestling. And I think the biggest issue is that Munoz doesn't deliver. He is hyped up to be a great wrestler and working with the Nog brothers etc... but he just doesn't put it all together. For some reason his wrestling just doesn't work in MMA. Love Simpson as an underdog and took him at +150.Comment -
some of those picks are grenades, bro
People also don't understand that there are different types in each discipline, and that being a champion in a martial art is absolutely not going to transfer to MMA. Take Munoz or Ishii or even Monson for example. Munoz and Monson are point scorers, and Ishii used his brute strength and grip to overpower everybody in the olympics. If you are expecting amazing double legs from Munoz flying armbars from Monson or Uchi Matas from Ishii, then you are going to be very disappointed.Last edited by Poppa Catfish; 11-14-10, 07:19 PM.Comment -
Some pretty horrible odds have come out on paddypower for prop bets...my worst nightmare may have come true that paddy have realised that a lot more fights go to decision then their odds wer suggesting!
They've got Machida by decision at -110, Rampage by KO at +450 (which is reasonable), Sotiropolous by decision at +125, Sot/Lauzon to go the distance at -162.5, Penn/Hughes to go distance at -150, Hughes on points at +225. I was hoping and expecting Machida by dec to be +150, Sot by dec +175, and the fight to go distance bets -120 or better. Any props available for these fights on any of the US books yet...how do they compare?? I'm gonna wait until Skybet release their props which should be slightly better before laying anything down.Comment -
Machida wins by decision +175, fight goes the distance -105, Sot fight goes the distance +120 all on 5 dimesComment -
5Dimes has Machida by decision at even and fight goes distance at +115 LOL.Comment -
I hope Rampage can at least put on a good showing, he's looked like shiiit in 3 of his last 4. Griffin/Jardine/Evans, only good fight in his last 4 was the KO over Wandy, and Wandy ain't the fighter he used to be eitherComment -
Who here thinks Machida will go to -400 before the fight?Comment -
i hope machida gets the KO. rampage just fights for the paycheck now.Comment -
Aaron Simpson should win here.Comment -
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Do people reckon odds for rest of the fights come out later today? Im hoping to get favourable odds for Edson Barboza and Hallman.Comment -
Some vids of Edson Barboza in action...
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ha Immediately after I posted that the odds came out on bookmaker. Barboza at -500 unfortunately, was expecting -300! Hallman at +195, I'd jump on that straight away, expect it to come down to +125 by fight time, unfortunately by the time Pinnacle release their lines I expect him to be at +125 to +150 range on there also
Lentz at +245 might be worth a pop as well, will probly come down to +200 to +215 range.Comment -
According to latest video on BJPENN.com he is somewhere between 165.8 and 170lbs currently. He weighs himself with Burt Watson on the official scales that they use at weigh-ins and Burt says that he is 170lbs, then BJ is surprised as he says when he weighed himself earlier he was more like 165.8. Burt implies that the scale used by the comission isnt exactly right but whatever it says you go by as he says "whatever the scale say that's what you go with! Pretty much implies that the official weigh-ins arent so 'official' afterall!Last edited by Vaughany; 11-16-10, 04:39 PM.Comment -
As I thought, Hallman is down to +150 and Lentz all the way down to +170 from +245 originally. Hoping Pinnacle bring the odds out tonight before Hallman's odds get any worse.ha Immediately after I posted that the odds came out on bookmaker. Barboza at -500 unfortunately, was expecting -300! Hallman at +195, I'd jump on that straight away, expect it to come down to +125 by fight time, unfortunately by the time Pinnacle release their lines I expect him to be at +125 to +150 range on there also
Lentz at +245 might be worth a pop as well, will probly come down to +200 to +215 range.Comment -
correction bj is at 171 and looking strong--as per ufc scales todayComment -
correcting me confirming bj at 165 in earlier postLast edited by stefan084; 11-16-10, 06:02 PM.Comment
WHere did you get 171 from? And as Burt says in the video, the UFC scales arent necessarily right.