Vaughany's MMA Picks...

**The HOFF** · 02-06-12, 08:10 PM

Yeah I think the only way Herman gets into to trouble is if he follows Struve to the mat after knocking him down.

**Nyjrkm06** · 02-06-12, 10:52 PM

who do you guys like in the ellenberger fight?

**Jordan23** · 02-06-12, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Nyjrkm06

who do you guys like in the ellenberger fight?

Ellenberger

**xelance** · 02-07-12, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

ha Thank you bruva! Not seen u on here for a while?

yo yo! Yeah its been a while...too many UFC events to keep up with! I stopped even trying...there's an event almost every week now! Been busy working, just thought id pop my head in and say wassup. Hope all has been well

**lovetobet** · 02-07-12, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Best octagon control ever from Riddle...

Thank you. I know you've been saying this on your thread and others but this is a great example beautiful. Watched the Riddle fight but watching again he's just walking forward (controlling the octagon in Gabe's and other's opinion) and EATING PUNCHES. Awesome example of OCTAGON CONTROL.

Well done, sir, well done indeed.

**Vaughany** · 02-07-12, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by Sano

I was wondering, which site is best for MMA betting? I know there are several good ones, but if you'd have to choose one. Bodog? Also, it has to be accessible for a european like me.

If ur in Europe u should have accounts with Pinnacle, Paddypower, skybet, unibet and William Hill at least (which US citizens cant sign up to). Sportbet/5dimes is best for props.

**The Fobfather** · 02-07-12, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

If ur in Europe u should have accounts with Pinnacle, Paddypower, skybet, unibet and William Hill at least (which US citizens cant sign up to). Sportbet/5dimes is best for props.

Hey V, if you're a US citizen living overseas are you allowed to sign up at those books?

**gabe** · 02-07-12, 03:33 AM

You guys notice Pierson standing in front of Riddle the entire time in that clip and not running away, right?

Oh, no, you clearly don't.

LOL @ Comparing backing up w/ counter punches (Chuck Lidell!!) to running, kicking, and running... You guys are not legit fans of this sport. You're just watching to bet on it. Especially V. It is clear. I, as a fan, feel I was robbed of a good fight, and saw a poor judges decision handed out after said poor fight... and the poor judges decision went to the fighter responsible for the fight being poor... As a fan, I feel robbed of a possible great fight. Anybody who doesn't feel the same is not a real fan.

**illmatick** · 02-07-12, 03:44 AM

Awful comparison. That's just as bad as the people who are saying Condit looked like Starnes in the Quarry fight.

**Vaughany** · 02-07-12, 04:07 AM

ha I was posting it more in response to Bubzy's post about Riddle on previous page...wasnt suggesting it was a direct comparison of Diaz's performance! Just find Riddle to be a comedy fighter...

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

The counter argument is that fighters and Pat Miletich gave it to Diaz. Chandler Blades has yet to comment.

Lets focus on the positive. Matt Riddle has another fight in the UFC.

We can FADE HIM

**Vaughany** · 02-07-12, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by gabe

You guys notice Pierson standing in front of Riddle the entire time in that clip and not running away, right?

Oh, no, you clearly don't.

LOL @ Comparing backing up w/ counter punches (Chuck Lidell!!) to running, kicking, and running... You guys are not legit fans of this sport. You're just watching to bet on it. Especially V. It is clear. I, as a fan, feel I was robbed of a good fight, and saw a poor judges decision handed out after said poor fight... and the poor judges decision went to the fighter responsible for the fight being poor... As a fan, I feel robbed of a possible great fight. Anybody who doesn't feel the same is not a real fan.

**Vaughany** · 02-07-12, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by The Fobfather

Hey V, if you're a US citizen living overseas are you allowed to sign up at those books?

Good question. Guess it depends on how u deposit funds. If u wanna do it by debit/CC I'd imagine if tht card is registered to your US address then you probably wouldnt be able to. But if u sign up, put your address as a non-US place, then deposit using neteller or something then maybe it would be okay

Probably best speaking to the live support. Most of the sites like paddypower, sportingbet, sportbet etc... have live support so you can just ask somebody on there, will only take you a minute or 2

**The Fobfather** · 02-07-12, 04:23 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Good question. Guess it depends on how u deposit funds. If u wanna do it by debit/CC I'd imagine if tht card is registered to your US address then you probably wouldnt be able to. But if u sign up, put your address as a non-US place, then deposit using neteller or something then maybe it would be okay

Probably best speaking to the live support. Most of the sites like paddypower, sportingbet, sportbet etc... have live support so you can just ask somebody on there, will only take you a minute or 2

Thanks as always for the advice. I've tried researching on this forum and online but there seems to be so much conflicting info. I'll give live support a call.

**gabe** · 02-07-12, 04:31 AM

V- we can't let this get between us. You're still my first phone call if I ever get locked up.

**Vaughany** · 02-07-12, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by gabe

V- we can't let this get between us. You're still my first phone call if I ever get locked up.

ha Im not disagreeing with you that the fight wasnt as entertaining as it could of been, and I can totally understand why people think Diaz might of won. I just don't think Condit should be getting as much heat as he is

**Vaughany** · 02-07-12, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by The Fobfather

Thanks as always for the advice. I've tried researching on this forum and online but there seems to be so much conflicting info. I'll give live support a call.

No worries. U can speak to them on the website through live-chat, dont have to call them

**Sano** · 02-07-12, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

If ur in Europe u should have accounts with Pinnacle, Paddypower, skybet, unibet and William Hill at least (which US citizens cant sign up to). Sportbet/5dimes is best for props.

Is it really necessary to have that many accounts? Untill now I have only used one.

**Vaughany** · 02-07-12, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Sano

Is it really necessary to have that many accounts? Untill now I have only used one.

I think line-shopping and getting best value are most important aspects in betting - and you cant get that without having numerous accounts. I've got a lot of buddies who just have an account with Bet365 or Bluesq and ask me for some UFC plays on like the day of the fight. But by then most of the odds are poor value in comparison to what they were when they first came out, or even at that same time are poor value in comparison to other sites such as Pinnacle or William Hill for instance. I got Evans at -145 and -162.5, and by fight night I had people sayin Im gonna bet on Evans, but he was like -210 on their sites such as Bet365. Obviously if you are only betting casually now and again then line-shopping isnt that important.

Also, if you want to arb out of bets then you need to have numerous accounts. Again though, you're probably only going to bother with arbs if you are betting larger sums of money in the first place unless you want to make a risk free £5 or something.

Overall, if you have numerous accounts and can catch opening lines and have decent judgement of line movement then the part of actually predicting the fight outcome is secondary, as you can guarantee yourself profit either way no matter who wins.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 02-07-12, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Sano

Is it really necessary to have that many accounts? Untill now I have only used one.

Sano... if you observe V's betting style, you'll see that if anyone requires that may accounts, it's homeboy Vaughany.

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by The Fobfather

Hey V, if you're a US citizen living overseas are you allowed to sign up at those books?

Yes, its not a problem. They are going to require proof of address, and all your banking is going to be required to go through the non-US banks. And once you come back to the states you will likely be cutoff.

I lived in Canada for a few months and did exactly this.

**Beelzebubzy** · 02-07-12, 12:37 PM

How much does it cost to be an SBR Pro?

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Sano

Is it really necessary to have that many accounts? Untill now I have only used one.

Having lots of outs and lineshopping is the most important thing. You can easily lineshop your way into profit without knowing anything about any sport whatsoever.

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

How much does it cost to be an SBR Pro?

Nothing, you just have to prove to SBR that you have an account funded at one of their major books, or sign up through one of their links.

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 12:39 PM

SBR Forum - Sports Betting Talk - Sportsbook Review Forum

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-pro/

Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.

"use a sportsbook sponsor"

**Beelzebubzy** · 02-07-12, 12:40 PM

Thats insane!

So i signup, accumulate 5000 points by posting and then I can get a PS3?

**Beelzebubzy** · 02-07-12, 12:40 PM

Thanks nunya, I thought there was some last minute catch or fine print that I missed.

Looks like I will be getting a 5dimes account in the near future

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Thats insane!

So i signup, accumulate 5000 points by posting and then I can get a PS3?

The PS3 is 5800 points, but you could get $200 best buy gift certs for 4672 and save money. There are better deals if you shop around in the store. The best I've found is the scanner for 589 points which is easy to resell on ebay for $50.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 02-07-12, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

The PS3 is 5800 points, but you could get $200 best buy gift certs for 4672 and save money. There are better deals if you shop around in the store. The best I've found is the scanner for 589 points which is easy to resell on ebay for $50.

Lol, i was eye-balling that scanner with the same idea...

**Beelzebubzy** · 02-07-12, 12:52 PM

Perfect thanks for the help guys. I was using an example out of the ps3 did not do cost efficient model just a guess.

Thank you for your help
ED and nunya 100% BBAWP

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Lol, i was eye-balling that scanner with the same idea...

I'm stupid for mentioning it. Creating my own damn competition!

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Perfect thanks for the help guys. I was using an example out of the ps3 did not do cost efficient model just a guess.

Thank you for your help
ED and nunya 100% BBAWP

BBAWP?

Ballin Blades Award Winning Posters?

**Beelzebubzy** · 02-07-12, 12:56 PM

Adjusted win percentage because he gave himself credit for erick silvas 'win' over prater

**Rubber Guard** · 02-07-12, 01:17 PM

Long time follower. Just figured out how to get my user name processed.

Diaz won the fight in my eyes. It was a close fight, but Rogan, Helwani, Chuck, Anderson, Neer, Joe Lauzon, Hendo, and many others scored it for Nick as well.

I'd rather be on their side of the argument than on the side with Cecil Peoples.

Good Job though Vaughn, you do good work here.

**Giblets** · 02-07-12, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Long time follower. Just figured out how to get my user name processed. Diaz won the fight in my eyes. It was a close fight, but Rogan, Helwani, Chuck, Anderson, Neer, Joe Lauzon, Hendo, and many others scored it for Nick as well. I'd rather be on their side of the argument than on the side with Cecil Peoples. Good Job though Vaughn, you do good work here.

There were dozens of fighters who thought Condit won too. But ya agreeing with Cecil Peoples is never a good argument haha. The only thing it proved is that the fight was very close and anyone who says Diaz was "robbed" probably had a lot of money on him and had a very bias view of the fight.

**NunyaBidness** · 02-07-12, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Long time follower. Just figured out how to get my user name processed.

Diaz won the fight in my eyes. It was a close fight, but Rogan, Helwani, Chuck, Anderson, Neer, Joe Lauzon, Hendo, and many others scored it for Nick as well.

I'd rather be on their side of the argument than on the side with Cecil Peoples.

I'd take these names over those.

Ben Henderson: "Wow seems to be quite the controversy, I don't get it...I had Condit clearly winning 4 rds...1 guy walked forward the other landed strikes.."

Stephan Bonnar: "All I gotta say is #followingthegameplantoaT . Congrats to the natty born killer!"

Jon Fitch: "@jonfitchdotnet: I think condit won"

Miesha Tate: "@mieshatate: I thought Condit won the fight I know Diaz is pissed but Condit had a solid game plan that worked, I thought he won for sure"

Brian Stann: "@carloscondit won that fight in my opinion, so happy for him, put a belt around his waist!! He is a great person & father"

Aaron Simpson: "I scored the same...but real close. RT @KevinI: How did you score the rounds last night @aaronsimpson? I gave Diaz 1-2 and Condit 3-4-5"

Bas Rutten: "Ha! He did it! Wow, this is freaking great! Props to Jacksons camp, very good strategy"

Frank Shamrock: "UFC 143 results: Nick Diaz vs Carlos Condit fight metric report shows judges made right decision"