UFC 220: Miocic Vs. Ngannou | 20.01.2018 (Boston, Massachusetts)
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Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#73Regardless, its amazing that Bochniak is in the UFC at this point. He was beaten SOUNDLY in his last two by Jeremy Kennedy and Enrique Barzola. His short notice debut he actually performed decently until gassing and losing a 29-28 decision to Charles Rosa. I can absolutely say with 100% though that none of those 3 guys are at the level striking wise that Brandon Davis is. Barzola is a grinding style wrestler who never strikes with anyone and he still out-struck Bochniak. Kennedy is a better striker but still more of a throw volume, get you against the cage and grind on you/take you down type fighter. Rosa's standup is pretty terrible as well. Bochniak has attempted 8 TD's in 3 UFC fights and only landed a couple (none resulting in any top time really). Hard for me to see how Davis loses this fight to be honest. Maybe he find a choke?Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#74He threw a lot of volume but those shots were definitely labored. Check this fight out. It was in April of last year at 155 pounds and his volume drops after a round.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIRNqewJ-dkComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#75Hate to break it to ya but Moyle is out of the Moroz fight and they are not planning to find a replacement.Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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Sanity CheckSBR Posting Legend
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#78Volkan Oezdemir training for a titan FC fight is a completely different training camp than Volkan Oezdemir training to fight seriously in the UFC. The UFC does this thing where they always pretend everyone fighting is 100%. They did it to Nate Diaz the first time he fought Conor. They said "Nate is in excellent shape he was training for a triathalon".
There's no way Volkan was anywhere near 100% when he fought OSP on 1-2 weeks notice. You can see it in the way he fights, he looks completely different.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#79Volkan Oezdemir training for a titan FC fight is a completely different training camp than Volkan Oezdemir training to fight seriously in the UFC. The UFC does this thing where they always pretend everyone fighting is 100%. They did it to Nate Diaz the first time he fought Conor. They said "Nate is in excellent shape he was training for a triathalon".
There's no way Volkan was anywhere near 100% when he fought OSP on 1-2 weeks notice. You can see it in the way he fights, he looks completely different.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#80You gotta almost expect one fighter to drop out on an entire UFC card these days.. Let's just hope no one else get's ruined at weigh ins and another fight is cancelled....Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#81Well my buddies kid got the call from the ufc to fight on this card against a kid from Peru and turned it down because he had to cut 26 pounds in ten days. There are a few other issues with him turning down the fight and people in his circle are not happy with him. Good lord. Finally make it and turn the fight down.Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#82I agree Fire.. You are totally right.. Still I gotta throw MMA logic out the window with this dude Volkan.. He's on a 5 fight win streak, only lost one fight in his MMA career.. He's fighting confident right now. DC is 39, just got his bell rung.. I'm giving Volkan the nod in this one. I just can't pull myself to bet against Volkan anymore..
If this was the DC of 5 years ago I'd be on DC.. I'm big on age when it comes to fading MMA fighters especially when they face big punchers with KO power.. Those chins start to go.. Sure DC took Rumbles best punch but can he take punches when he's a bit gassed out and getting hit with multiple punches now at 39.. I don't think he can..
He may have demons when he steps in the cage again after that head kick he took from JJ also... You lose that mental invincibility when getting KO'd like that.. Just ask Rhonda Rousey...Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#83Well my buddies kid got the call from the ufc to fight on this card against a kid from Peru and turned it down because he had to cut 26 pounds in ten days. There are a few other issues with him turning down the fight and people in his circle are not happy with him. Good lord. Finally make it and turn the fight down.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#84Well my buddies kid got the call from the ufc to fight on this card against a kid from Peru and turned it down because he had to cut 26 pounds in ten days. There are a few other issues with him turning down the fight and people in his circle are not happy with him. Good lord. Finally make it and turn the fight down.
Sounds like he wasn't in fighting shape and not serious about his MMA future..
I think when you are on the brink of making the UFC you gotta stay in prime shape and be ready to go for your weight division at short notice call up.. You gotta know you will be facing a very good fighter also in the UFC and this might be your only shot to make a real go at the sport.... That is if you wanna make a good living off it anyways..
Hard to get up and train violently every day in this sport, gotta make it a life style and like it... Needless to say you also need to keep a strict diet and the weight down..Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#87He probably could have came in and missed weight by 3-4 pounds and lost and still got another shot in the UFC thoughComment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#88How old is he Thor?
Sounds like he wasn't in fighting shape and not serious about his MMA future..
I think when you are on the brink of making the UFC you gotta stay in prime shape and be ready to go for your weight division at short notice call up.. You gotta know you will be facing a very good fighter also in the UFC and this might be your only shot to make a real go at the sport.... That is if you wanna make a good living off it anyways..
Hard to get up and train violently every day in this sport, gotta make it a life style and like it... Needless to say you also need to keep a strict diet and the weight down..Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#92honestly his dad and me have no idea what was said unless he didn't give a quick answer and they went to someone else. Him and his dad have a love hate relationship. Not sure they are even talking now. This isn't a dumb kid either. He has a college degreeComment -
turbozedSBR MVP
- 10-15-08
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#93Well the only women's mma fight on this card has been cancelled due to Moyle injury.
I think this year I'll be looking out for upcoming Invicta events to cap earlier instead of after the lines come out. Anyone interested in doing this with me? I know it's painful watching WMMA tape but think there's a big edge in WMMA. (1) Easier to find bargains; (2) not as much variance so less need to hedge; (3) easier to figure out what they are doing since lower level technique.Comment -
Sanity CheckSBR Posting Legend
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#94
Its not a thing where everyone trains for every fight as if it were a title fight. There are a lot of MMA fighters who are inconsistent. They'll hire coaches and train seriously in one fight and they'll look great. Then in the next, they'll try to find ways to cut corners so that they can reduce the cost of their training camps and they'll look terrible. Its a real factor.Comment -
DemonataBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#95Volkan Oezdemir fighting in bellator, being paid maybe $2,500 per fight doesn't give him the funds to hire a good wrestling coach or bring in olympic level wrestlers for training. Its also not worth it from a cost effective perspective. Volkan could probably murder everyone on belllators regional scene without training 100%. He might get away with winning his fights putting 50% effort into a training camp. That's the path of least resistance, a lot of MMA fighters only put the effort and money into their training camps they think they'll need to win their fights.
Its not a thing where everyone trains for every fight as if it were a title fight. There are a lot of MMA fighters who are inconsistent. They'll hire coaches and train seriously in one fight and they'll look great. Then in the next, they'll try to find ways to cut corners so that they can reduce the cost of their training camps and they'll look terrible. Its a real factor.Comment -
Sanity CheckSBR Posting Legend
- 03-30-13
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#96They only train as hard as they need to beat their opponent.
If you want an example, look at Andre Soukhamthath. He looks a lot better fighting in the UFC, than he did when he was fighting in bellator being paid $2,500 per fight.
When fighters from smaller promotions make it into the UFC, they step up their training and put more into their preparation. There's no reason to put 100% into a camp, and murder yourself in training when bellator is paying you less than $10,000 per fight.Comment -
RussianMikeSBR Sharp
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#97I'm betting against the hype as well, but gonna parlay him with over 1.5 at plus money as well. Don't think Stipe can KO him early, Ngannou seems to have good guard up even when stalking dudes around octagon like wild prey. Haven't seen him drop his hand yet, which is a pretty common slip most bigger fighters tend to do every now and then. When considering Stipe gonna come out cautious, maybe Ngannou will as well, careful of takedown. Don't do 5 dimes, so not sure what the prop odds are for Stipe KO, but Stipe at +160 parlayed with over at +130 (Will. Hill) pays +500 seems like a more prudent, safer bet to me. Can see Stipe winning by decision. Maybe if he can hold top control for a few rounds. LOL. Just the idea of 5 fuckin rounds in a cage with that beast making me sweat.Comment -
RussianMikeSBR Sharp
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#98They only train as hard as they need to beat their opponent.
If you want an example, look at Andre Soukhamthath. He looks a lot better fighting in the UFC, than he did when he was fighting in bellator being paid $2,500 per fight.
When fighters from smaller promotions make it into the UFC, they step up their training and put more into their preparation. There's no reason to put 100% into a camp, and murder yourself in training when bellator is paying you less than $10,000 per fight.Comment -
RussianMikeSBR Sharp
- 03-20-10
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#99Volkan Oezdemir training for a titan FC fight is a completely different training camp than Volkan Oezdemir training to fight seriously in the UFC. The UFC does this thing where they always pretend everyone fighting is 100%. They did it to Nate Diaz the first time he fought Conor. They said "Nate is in excellent shape he was training for a triathalon".
There's no way Volkan was anywhere near 100% when he fought OSP on 1-2 weeks notice. You can see it in the way he fights, he looks completely different.Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
- 02-21-08
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#100Well the only women's mma fight on this card has been cancelled due to Moyle injury.
I think this year I'll be looking out for upcoming Invicta events to cap earlier instead of after the lines come out. Anyone interested in doing this with me? I know it's painful watching WMMA tape but think there's a big edge in WMMA. (1) Easier to find bargains; (2) not as much variance so less need to hedge; (3) easier to figure out what they are doing since lower level technique.
Turbo, I'm in buddy. When is the first card? I'll keep a spreadsheet of our fighter breakdowns as well like I do with mine to make it easier the 2nd time aroundComment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
- 02-21-08
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#101Almeida/Font essentially a pickem? I know Almeida brawls too much and Font is a very good technical striker but Almeida went toe to toe with Rivera who is probably better on the feet and looked pretty good. Font's last performance certainly soured me and I think he chokes when he steps up in competition.Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
- 10-15-08
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#102Looks like we'll have to wait another couple of months until the next one since Invicta 27 was just last weekend. Going to keep an eye out on future events and make a thread for each.Comment -
DemonataBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-12-11
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#103Almeida/Font essentially a pickem? I know Almeida brawls too much and Font is a very good technical striker but Almeida went toe to toe with Rivera who is probably better on the feet and looked pretty good. Font's last performance certainly soured me and I think he chokes when he steps up in competition.Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#105Almeida/Font essentially a pickem? I know Almeida brawls too much and Font is a very good technical striker but Almeida went toe to toe with Rivera who is probably better on the feet and looked pretty good. Font's last performance certainly soured me and I think he chokes when he steps up in competition.Comment
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