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  • Demonata
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-12-11
    • 25829

    #2206
    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
    Ferguson is probably the most dangerous guy off his back in the UFC. Hellacious elbows from bottom and a dangerous guard game.
    Nowadays for sure.
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    • Hugo de Naranja
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-14-16
      • 14140

      #2207
      Sanchez (+285) 3.6u

      Ridiculous line on Sanchez. Hit it now before it drops.
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      • bjpenn85
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-17-11
        • 5059

        #2208
        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
        Sanchez (+285) 3.6u

        Ridiculous line on Sanchez. Hit it now before it drops.
        Done!
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        • slikec
          SBR MVP
          • 01-11-11
          • 1032

          #2209
          That line on Sanchez is really high. I even got +298 at Pinny strange.
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          • kcchiefs
            SBR MVP
            • 09-05-13
            • 1104

            #2210
            What do you think of Zhang and Tiny Tornado fight?
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            • bjpenn85
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-17-11
              • 5059

              #2211
              Originally posted by kcchiefs
              What do you think of Zhang and Tiny Tornado fight?
              Looks like a tossup 50/50 fight. Zhang looks a little bit better on the feet, but i dont know if it will make a difference. Tiny has good timing and good movement which could easily make up for that itty bitty technical diff. Fight goes the distance is maybe a parlay leg?
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              • firekillex
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-18-13
                • 6420

                #2212
                gastelum vs stylebender
                and porier vs holloway

                ufc interm title should be crazy ... think stylebender destroys dustin with the range and i think porier is going to surprise a lot of people in this fight but end up losing a close one / get finished late
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                • Hugo de Naranja
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-16
                  • 14140

                  #2213
                  Originally posted by kcchiefs
                  What do you think of Zhang and Tiny Tornado fight?
                  I like Zhang.
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                  • bjpenn85
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-17-11
                    • 5059

                    #2214
                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                    I like Zhang.
                    Will the fight look like Yan vs dodson?
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                    • bjpenn85
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-17-11
                      • 5059

                      #2215
                      I struggle to see how she wins convincingly on the scorecards, i expect a 29-28 maybe, do you see a 30-27 here hugo?
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                      • praisebuddha
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 10-25-11
                        • 56

                        #2216
                        Are you more inclined to bet this because of the incredible value or do you feel stronger that Sanchez wins this one Hugo? Seems as though Galls only shot is to submit him or to a lesser extent by decision considering Galls skillset but Sanchez has never been subbed. How did the line get this off? Ha

                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        Sanchez (+285) 3.6u

                        Ridiculous line on Sanchez. Hit it now before it drops.
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-16
                          • 14140

                          #2217
                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                          Will the fight look like Yan vs dodson?
                          No it will probably be close unless Zhang finishes. She has finished the vast majority of her wins. Not going big on this one.
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                          • Hugo de Naranja
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-14-16
                            • 14140

                            #2218
                            Originally posted by praisebuddha
                            Are you more inclined to bet this because of the incredible value or do you feel stronger that Sanchez wins this one Hugo? Seems as though Galls only shot is to submit him or to a lesser extent by decision considering Galls skillset but Sanchez has never been subbed. How did the line get this off? Ha
                            Picking Sanchez outright. Think it is KO or bust for Gall and his striking is shit. I line Sanchez (-150).
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                            • Sanity Check
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-30-13
                              • 10962

                              #2219
                              UFC on ESPN: Edson Barboza vs Justin Gaethje

                              Imagine Gaethje trading leg kicks with Barboza.

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                              • bjpenn85
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-17-11
                                • 5059

                                #2220
                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                Picking Sanchez outright. Think it is KO or bust for Gall and his striking is shit. I line Sanchez (-150).
                                I think sanchez may win if he avoids to get knocked out. But Sanchez is at a point in his career that even shots containing half the power he once was able to take is enough to take him out.

                                Regarding submission defence, im not concerned the slightest. Diego has never been submitted, which is pretty unheard of in a 40 fight long fight career, facing the people he had. Once Diego plowed through, nick diaz, jorge santiago, kenny florian, with a 17 win streak with many high level fighters. He had so many chances to get submitted, but it has never happened. Hiw whole career he has been laying on top of world class fighters and avoided being submitted. Last time he met a skilled BJJ dude was Held, even when held had a pretty deep guillotine diego quickly escaped. So pretty good bet i think, KO as a hedge will be suffice, if the fight goes to dec, diego wins.
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                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-14-16
                                  • 14140

                                  #2221
                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                  Sanchez (+285) 3.6u

                                  Ridiculous line on Sanchez. Hit it now before it drops.
                                  Already dropped 55 cents from (+285) to (+230).
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                                  • PaperTrail07
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-29-08
                                    • 20423

                                    #2222
                                    A line that looks great but will never cash.....fools gold Hugo + point handicap MAYBE....only advantage he has is experience (some call it being old ) and toughness......less skilled everywhere.....older....slower.....less length...
                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                    Already dropped 55 cents from (+285) to (+230).
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-14-16
                                      • 14140

                                      #2223
                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                      A line that looks great but will never cash.....fools gold Hugo + point handicap MAYBE....only advantage he has is experience (some call it being old ) and toughness......less skilled everywhere.....older....slower.....less length...
                                      I respectfully disagree. Gall has to finish him early to win. Sanchez has never been submitted, better cardio, better wrestling, better striking, more heart, still has will to win.

                                      If you want to get something going on this, I know a guy.
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                                      • Hugo de Naranja
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-14-16
                                        • 14140

                                        #2224
                                        Gall is the worst fighter ever to win four UFC fights.
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                                        • HurlSweatPants
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 07-28-15
                                          • 951

                                          #2225
                                          Gillespie vs. Lee almost booked. What do you think about that match-up?
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                                          • PaperTrail07
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-29-08
                                            • 20423

                                            #2226
                                            lol...if we were in the same room.....there would be 100s being tossed around no doubt lol....however....want to pay you all your points first lol....DS is also getting older....he didn't finish craig THUNDERCAT white...he wont be finishing gall.......
                                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                            I respectfully disagree. Gall has to finish him early to win. Sanchez has never been submitted, better cardio, better wrestling, better striking, more heart, still has will to win.

                                            If you want to get something going on this, I know a guy.
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                                            • PaperTrail07
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-29-08
                                              • 20423

                                              #2227
                                              Lee gets worked IMO....Gillespie is legit sauce...
                                              Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                              Gillespie vs. Lee almost booked. What do you think about that match-up?
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                                              • PaperTrail07
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-29-08
                                                • 20423

                                                #2228
                                                Bruce Leeroy takes that cake.........
                                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                Gall is the worst fighter ever to win four UFC fights.
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                                                • HurlSweatPants
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-28-15
                                                  • 951

                                                  #2229
                                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                  Lee gets worked IMO....Gillespie is legit sauce...
                                                  It''s definitely a step up in competition for GG, and a dangerous take for Lee.
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                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-14-16
                                                    • 14140

                                                    #2230
                                                    Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                    Gillespie vs. Lee almost booked. What do you think about that match-up?
                                                    I think Gillespie wins but I’d prefer for him to fight someone else.
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                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-14-16
                                                      • 14140

                                                      #2231
                                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                      lol...if we were in the same room.....there would be 100s being tossed around no doubt lol....however....want to pay you all your points first lol....DS is also getting older....he didn't finish craig THUNDERCAT white...he wont be finishing gall.......
                                                      We shall see. Picking Diego UD. The most similar style matchups he’s faced recently are Marcin Held and Craig White and he beat them both. Gall isn’t a power striker like Brown or Iaquinta.
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                                                      • PaperTrail07
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-29-08
                                                        • 20423

                                                        #2232
                                                        For sure....Craig White was flat no good and Held has zero footwork compared to gall who is pretty damn fast....I don't think the guys amazing....just a good spot for him.....for some reason they give him amazing matchups that fit his skills and size.....as we saw....the one that didn't BROWN=LOSS.....ALSO: I would love to see DS uppercut Galls head off.....it would just be good for the sport just don't think it will happen lol
                                                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                        We shall see. Picking Diego UD. The most similar style matchups he’s faced recently are Marcin Held and Craig White and he beat them both. Gall isn’t a power striker like Brown or Iaquinta.
                                                        Last edited by PaperTrail07; 02-28-19, 02:43 PM.
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                                                        • HurlSweatPants
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 07-28-15
                                                          • 951

                                                          #2233
                                                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                          I think Gillespie wins but I’d prefer for him to fight someone else.
                                                          Agree, Lee seems like a big jump, and isn't easily wrestlefucked.

                                                          Would like to see him get someone like Alexander or maybe even Oliveira before he gets Lee. Or Chisea if he didn't puss out and move up.
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                                                          • Hugo de Naranja
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-14-16
                                                            • 14140

                                                            #2234
                                                            Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                            Agree, Lee seems like a big jump, and isn't easily wrestlefucked.

                                                            Would like to see him get someone like Alexander or maybe even Oliveira before he gets Lee. Or Chisea if he didn't puss out and move up.
                                                            Yeah I like all those matchups better. Think Chiesa is at WW now though.
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                                                            • HurlSweatPants
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 07-28-15
                                                              • 951

                                                              #2235
                                                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                              Yeah I like all those matchups better. Think Chiesa is at WW now though.
                                                              He is, made his debut against Condit at WW b/c he couldn't make weight at LW.

                                                              Honestly, i think its total BS, he missed weight once by 1.5 lbs. Based on some of his interviews, this was a strategic move, and the UFC did him a favor by giving him a guy that hasn't evolved on the ground in CC. I think he realized he wasn't elite at LW and took the easier, or smarter road, depending on how you look at it. There was no future for him at LW, at best he would've been a gatekeeper.
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-14-16
                                                                • 14140

                                                                #2236
                                                                Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                                He is, made his debut against Condit at WW b/c he couldn't make weight at LW.

                                                                Honestly, i think its total BS, he missed weight once by 1.5 lbs. Based on some of his interviews, this was a strategic move, and the UFC did him a favor by giving him a guy that hasn't evolved on the ground in CC. I think he realized he wasn't elite at LW and took the easier, or smarter road, depending on how you look at it. There was no future for him at LW, at best he would've been a gatekeeper.
                                                                Seems like a lot of guys have had success moving up in weight.
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                                                                • firekillex
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-18-13
                                                                  • 6420

                                                                  #2237
                                                                  not sure why it would be BS for somebody to move up in weight?? tbh Chiesas body type is a WWs he was sucking down gigantic weight to get to 155 which was hindering his performance... no doubt hes not a championship level fighter because he has holes but hes a solid 170 gatekeeper level fighter imo him vs Neil Magny ( his post fight call out ) is a perfect match

                                                                  also what is everybody thinking will happen with this shiet show of HW??

                                                                  DC champion, Jones could move up
                                                                  Miocic still crying and isnt getting the rematch
                                                                  Ngannou with a big win over a legend and DC should want revenge

                                                                  lots of options right now and of course the wild card Lesnar
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                                                                  • HurlSweatPants
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 07-28-15
                                                                    • 951

                                                                    #2238
                                                                    Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                    not sure why it would be BS for somebody to move up in weight?? tbh Chiesas body type is a WWs he was sucking down gigantic weight to get to 155 which was hindering his performance... no doubt hes not a championship level fighter because he has holes but hes a solid 170 gatekeeper level fighter imo him vs Neil Magny ( his post fight call out ) is a perfect match
                                                                    also what is everybody thinking will happen with this shiet show of HW??

                                                                    DC champion, Jones could move up
                                                                    Miocic still crying and isnt getting the rematch
                                                                    Ngannou with a big win over a legend and DC should want revenge

                                                                    lots of options right now and of course the wild card Lesnar
                                                                    Maybe you misunderstood or I didn't explain well enough, never did I say that moving up, or down, is BS. Matter of fact, the point I am making supports your argument and would cause less issues with weight cuts, which is a huge issue in the UFC. Previous to him missing weight, there were several interviews where he talked about how great the cut is, loses 2 fights, misses weight by less than 2 lbs, and then all of a sudden its the weight cut. He should have never been a LW to begin with. He is just one of several fighters that like to play both sides, and I'm not a fan of it, especially with the weight classes being 15lbs apart
                                                                    Last edited by HurlSweatPants; 03-01-19, 11:47 AM.
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                                                                    • firekillex
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-18-13
                                                                      • 6420

                                                                      #2239
                                                                      Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                                      Maybe you misunderstood or I didn't explain well enough, never did I say that moving up, or down, is BS. Matter of fact, the point I am making supports your argument and would cause less issues with weight cuts, which is a huge issue in the UFC. Previous to him missing weight, there were several interviews where he talked about how great the cut is, loses 2 fights, misses weight by less than 2 lbs, and then all of a sudden its the weight cut. He should have never been a LW to begin with. He is just one of several fighters that like to play both sides, and I'm not a fan of it, especially with the weight classes being 15lbs apart
                                                                      ya the UFC really just needs to make a 165 division imo... the way the model is now they do so many interm titles to boost PPVS to say this is a "title fight" just a few divisions 165 to start and you can have an extra champion... the average male will be 170-190 range which is the weight of 155-170ers a lot of guys are tweeners where they can be huge 155ers but cut tons of weight or be smaller sized 170ers.... Chiesa is an example, Cowboy oliveria, Ceronne , Paul Felder even Mike Perry but hes chose to just fight at 170 right away bet he could make 155

                                                                      Ben Askren vs Khabib 165 title lets do it haha
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                                                                      • freeVICK
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-21-08
                                                                        • 7114

                                                                        #2240
                                                                        Anyone else suprised holloway opened up as a big -240 favorite vs porier?
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