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  • HurlSweatPants
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-28-15
    • 951

    #2171
    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
    I'm excited to see my boy David Teymur back in action soon against Charles Oliveira. Oliveira is by far the most dangerous guy Teymur has ever faced.
    Funny, I came here to ask you about this fight. I went ahead and grabbed Olivera at +150, I think his skill set on the ground might be too much for Teymur, plus I have a feeling this gets closer to pick em as the fight gets closer.
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    • bjpenn85
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-17-11
      • 5059

      #2172
      Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
      Funny, I came here to ask you about this fight. I went ahead and grabbed Olivera at +150, I think his skill set on the ground might be too much for Teymur, plus I have a feeling this gets closer to pick em as the fight gets closer.
      Teymur has pretty good fight iq doesnt he? I havent seen his fight with Nik Lentz, but from the fights i have seen he is as reluctant to go to the ground as a desert cat. He will probably just outstrike Oliveira dont you think?

      F Oliveira, could have been a world champ. He doesnt care, he gets a bonus every fight anyways!
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      • firekillex
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-18-13
        • 6420

        #2173
        Originally posted by bjpenn85
        Woha. What a fight. Barboza is pretty good at back pedaling now, after everyone last 2-3 years have tried to put pressure on Barboza. I think Barboza getting accustomed to getting pressured. Dont dare to put a bet on this fight, but leaning barboza.
        agreed with all that..
        lean Edson but Gaethje is so damn tough if he can handle the first onslaught and take it a bit later he can get a win

        wont be betting this fight odds will be close no doubt, just enjoy this as a fan
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        • bjpenn85
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-17-11
          • 5059

          #2174
          Originally posted by firekillex
          agreed with all that..
          lean Edson but Gaethje is so damn tough if he can handle the first onslaught and take it a bit later he can get a win


          wont be betting this fight odds will be close no doubt, just enjoy this as a fan
          Absolutely. Any bet for this weekend ?
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          • firekillex
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-18-13
            • 6420

            #2175
            Originally posted by bjpenn85
            Absolutely. Any bet for this weekend ?
            petty large bet on TJ
            then some smaller props and underdog bets that i like a bit... TJ will be the main bet for the night though i like the odds -200 on him a lot
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            • HurlSweatPants
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-28-15
              • 951

              #2176
              Originally posted by bjpenn85
              Teymur has pretty good fight iq doesnt he? I havent seen his fight with Nik Lentz, but from the fights i have seen he is as reluctant to go to the ground as a desert cat. He will probably just outstrike Oliveira dont you think?

              F Oliveira, could have been a world champ. He doesnt care, he gets a bonus every fight anyways!
              Teymur seems to have above average fight IQ, I like him a lot, just don't really like the match-up. But yes, I can see this turning into a muy thai match.

              If this gets anywhere near the ground though, Olivera has a decisive advantage, and can lock up subs in a heart beat. I just think there is way too much value with that line, not to mention Olivera isn't a slouch standing either, he should be able to hold his own enough to make the clinch and take-downs available.
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              • bjpenn85
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-17-11
                • 5059

                #2177
                Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                Teymur seems to have above average fight IQ, I like him a lot, just don't really like the match-up. But yes, I can see this turning into a muy thai match.

                If this gets anywhere near the ground though, Olivera has a decisive advantage, and can lock up subs in a heart beat. I just think there is way too much value with that line, not to mention Olivera isn't a slouch standing either, he should be able to hold his own enough to make the clinch and take-downs available.
                +150 is a decent price on a fight that is more or less 50/50. Oliveira does have steller reactive/counter takedowns as well so that makes the style difficult for our swedish friend. Teymur needs to be very cautious at all time, only one takedown can be a tragedy. It will def be difficult to fight freely, creative when you know that every kick, every mistep in the forward direction may be the end of the fight. Even the clinch position may be fatal.

                When that being said, Giagos withstood oliveira until midway in round 2, so just la little bit more effort from teymur and Oliveira may loose 2 rounds in the book, then Teymur may just stall for the last round putting up no offence only securing the victory thinking about not getting submitted. So im torn, i def think that Teymur is atheltic, quick and, has good enough tdd (82%), and if i remember correctly Teymur has shown very good signs of managing getting out of these important clinch positions that may arise again in this fight. Teymur has actually not lost a single round in the ufc that is the guy youre placing your money against, its absolutely a fair bet, but that aspect should be a concern also...Again, +150 for Oliveira to get one takedown during 15 min may also be looked upon as rather cheap hehe..
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                • Hugo de Naranja
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-16
                  • 14140

                  #2178
                  Alex Pereira, the only man to KO Israel Adesanya in Kickboxing is planning to make a fulltime transition to MMA in April 2019.
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                  • PaperTrail07
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-29-08
                    • 20423

                    #2179
                    Just a random though.....Manny Bermudez VS Ryan Hall would be a cool fight......that is all LOL>...
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                    • firekillex
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-18-13
                      • 6420

                      #2180
                      any thoughts on Whittaker vs Gatelum ???
                      Whittaker has 2 super tough fights coming up with Gastelum and if he wins could possibly have Israel next after that

                      after 2 Yoel Romero fights... if he wins both those upcoming fights imo hed be the best 185er ever in my books that would literally be murderers row.... i could easily see him losing either of those fights
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                      • Hugo de Naranja
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-14-16
                        • 14140

                        #2181
                        Originally posted by firekillex
                        any thoughts on Whittaker vs Gatelum ???
                        Whittaker has 2 super tough fights coming up with Gastelum and if he wins could possibly have Israel next after that

                        after 2 Yoel Romero fights... if he wins both those upcoming fights imo hed be the best 185er ever in my books that would literally be murderers row.... i could easily see him losing either of those fights
                        I like Whittaker to get the job done in his home country but Gastelum is no easy task. Can't recall a time that Gastelum lost a striking fight.
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                        • firekillex
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-18-13
                          • 6420

                          #2182
                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                          I like Whittaker to get the job done in his home country but Gastelum is no easy task. Can't recall a time that Gastelum lost a striking fight.
                          Gastelum might have one of the best chins ive seen in MMA tbh.... guy literally doesnt mark up at all its actually crazy
                          Whittaker will be the bigger guy but this will probably be an all striking match , im really interested to see what happens here

                          praying Isreal smokes Anderson and gets the winner, 185 is crazy right now
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                          • firekillex
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-18-13
                            • 6420

                            #2183
                            Ortega calling out Aldo.. man I think that’s a super bad style matchup for him , dont think that would end well for Ortega.. looks like aldo wants pettis though??

                            And we need Moraes vs TJ
                            Assuming they’ll do TJ Cejudo rematch though , maybe give Moraes the winner of Garbrandt Munhoz
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-16
                              • 14140

                              #2184
                              Originally posted by firekillex
                              Ortega calling out Aldo.. man I think that’s a super bad style matchup for him , dont think that would end well for Ortega.. looks like aldo wants pettis though??

                              And we need Moraes vs TJ
                              Assuming they’ll do TJ Cejudo rematch though , maybe give Moraes the winner of Garbrandt Munhoz
                              I'm definitely looking to continue betting Aldo in future fights. I think he's got something left in the tank.
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                              • firekillex
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-18-13
                                • 6420

                                #2185
                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                I'm definitely looking to continue betting Aldo in future fights. I think he's got something left in the tank.
                                imo i never thought he didnt really, Holloway just has a granite chin and could survive the Aldo onslaught both times they fought and for some reason Aldo didnt throw really any leg kicks which i thought he needed in those fights.. his reaction time and power are definitely still there he just fades if he doesnt win in the first few rounds... imo 3 round fights are perfect for his style

                                i think hell beat Ortega badly , i hope Ortega doesnt take that fight... and i think he beats Pettis as well tbh
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                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-14-16
                                  • 14140

                                  #2186
                                  Originally posted by firekillex
                                  imo i never thought he didnt really, Holloway just has a granite chin and could survive the Aldo onslaught both times they fought and for some reason Aldo didnt throw really any leg kicks which i thought he needed in those fights.. his reaction time and power are definitely still there he just fades if he doesnt win in the first few rounds... imo 3 round fights are perfect for his style

                                  i think hell beat Ortega badly , i hope Ortega doesnt take that fight... and i think he beats Pettis as well tbh
                                  Same for me. Bet him big against Stephens, Edgar, and Moicano. Holloway is a next level athlete so no shame losing to him.
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-14-16
                                    • 14140

                                    #2187
                                    Couple of solid Bellator cards this weekend.
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                                    • firekillex
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-18-13
                                      • 6420

                                      #2188
                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                      Couple of solid Bellator cards this weekend.
                                      who you got paul dayley vs venom page?
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                                      • PaperTrail07
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-29-08
                                        • 20423

                                        #2189
                                        I hate the guy----but Page -225 has real value right?
                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                        who you got paul dayley vs venom page?
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                                        • HurlSweatPants
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 07-28-15
                                          • 951

                                          #2190
                                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                          I hate the guy----but Page -225 has real value right?
                                          Not playing it, but Daley has tremendous value. Not of a fan of MVPs resume, and all it takes is one from Semtex.
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                                          • HurlSweatPants
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 07-28-15
                                            • 951

                                            #2191
                                            Hugo, if you're on MVP, I will definitely do BPs for that matchup at current odds.
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                                            • Hugo de Naranja
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-14-16
                                              • 14140

                                              #2192
                                              Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                              Hugo, if you're on MVP, I will definitely do BPs for that matchup at current odds.
                                              Nah man I'm all over Daley.
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-14-16
                                                • 14140

                                                #2193
                                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                                who you got paul dayley vs venom page?
                                                Daley all day
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-14-16
                                                  • 14140

                                                  #2194
                                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                  I hate the guy----but Page -225 has real value right?
                                                  Remember when you took Larkin over him at a similar price? Daley is gonna KO Page in this spot.
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                                                  • bjpenn85
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-17-11
                                                    • 5059

                                                    #2195
                                                    daley here as well
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                                                    • PaperTrail07
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-29-08
                                                      • 20423

                                                      #2196
                                                      Ill pay to see it I guess.....on MVP.....
                                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                      Remember when you took Larkin over him at a similar price? Daley is gonna KO Page in this spot.
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                                                      • PaperTrail07
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-29-08
                                                        • 20423

                                                        #2197
                                                        I will admit, I'm not big on the skills of Daley MOSTLY bc of his bad ground game....you guys may be right....but I'm still on MVP here.....
                                                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                        Remember when you took Larkin over him at a similar price? Daley is gonna KO Page in this spot.
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                                                        • Hugo de Naranja
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-14-16
                                                          • 14140

                                                          #2198
                                                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                          I will admit, I'm not big on the skills of Daley MOSTLY bc of his bad ground game....you guys may be right....but I'm still on MVP here.....
                                                          Everyone who tries to outgrapple Daley does but very few outstrike him. It is going to be dangerous for Page if he keeps the fight standing.
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                                                          • Hugo de Naranja
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-14-16
                                                            • 14140

                                                            #2199
                                                            Adesanya vs. Gastelum announced for UFC 236. Kelvin is about to get his ass kicked.
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                                                            • firekillex
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-18-13
                                                              • 6420

                                                              #2200
                                                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                              Adesanya vs. Gastelum announced for UFC 236. Kelvin is about to get his ass kicked.
                                                              has a granite chin but hes going to get picked apart , wonder if Israel can finish this fight will be tough ... i see a lopsided decision victory for StyleBender
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-14-16
                                                                • 14140

                                                                #2201
                                                                Hugo’s Prospects to Watch in Early 2019:
                                                                WSW: Weili Zhang
                                                                WFW: Antonina Shevchenko
                                                                WBW: Aspen Ladd
                                                                WFTW: Macy Chiasson

                                                                FW: Deiveson Figueiredo
                                                                BTW: Petr Yan
                                                                FTW: Zabit Magomedsharipov
                                                                LW: Gregor Gillespie
                                                                WW: Alexei Kunchenko
                                                                MW: Trevin Giles
                                                                LHW: Dominick Reyes
                                                                HW: Justin Willis

                                                                Criteria:
                                                                No more than 5 UFC Fights
                                                                No UFC main events fought as of 02.20.2019
                                                                No major titles won (Bellator, WSOF, Invicta etc.)
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                                                                • HurlSweatPants
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 07-28-15
                                                                  • 951

                                                                  #2202
                                                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  Hugo’s Prospects to Watch in Early 2019:
                                                                  WSW: Weili Zhang
                                                                  WFW: Antonina Shevchenko
                                                                  WBW: Aspen Ladd
                                                                  WFTW: Macy Chiasson

                                                                  FW: Deiveson Figueiredo
                                                                  BTW: Petr Yan
                                                                  FTW: Zabit Magomedsharipov
                                                                  LW: Gregor Gillespie
                                                                  WW: Alexei Kunchenko
                                                                  MW: Trevin Giles
                                                                  LHW: Dominick Reyes
                                                                  HW: Justin Willis

                                                                  Criteria:
                                                                  No more than 5 UFC Fights
                                                                  No UFC main events fought as of 02.20.2019
                                                                  No major titles won (Bellator, WSOF, Invicta etc.)
                                                                  Aspen Ladd has been on my radar too, definitely will be contending for a title in the future. Gillespie is a one trick pony, he just happens to be really really dominate at that trick. Would like to see him matched up against better competition though.
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                                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-14-16
                                                                    • 14140

                                                                    #2203
                                                                    Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                                    Aspen Ladd has been on my radar too, definitely will be contending for a title in the future. Gillespie is a one trick pony, he just happens to be really really dominate at that trick. Would like to see him matched up against better competition though.
                                                                    Gillespie is my boy haha. His wrestling is great but his standup isn’t bad either. I’d say it’s between Khabib’s striking and Kevin Lee’s.
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                                                                    • bjpenn85
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-17-11
                                                                      • 5059

                                                                      #2204
                                                                      Gillespie may be the only one who can defeat Nurma. Ferguson has so crappy tdd, i dont know if ferguson can ever get up.
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                                                                      • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 04-14-16
                                                                        • 14140

                                                                        #2205
                                                                        Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                        Gillespie may be the only one who can defeat Nurma. Ferguson has so crappy tdd, i dont know if ferguson can ever get up.
                                                                        Ferguson is probably the most dangerous guy off his back in the UFC. Hellacious elbows from bottom and a dangerous guard game.
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