2012 Shutout System Results+Plays

[pagodo]

dollarbill10, welcome to the thread, hope you keep your labby in check and increase your roll with us

teamprofit101, thanks for filling in today, all the Wednesday plays check out

cmdyrds, as per the run line, you are welcome to play however you like to take the cost of the bets down somewhat, I've been playing quite a lot of -1 bets last year and it seems like a good idea, but there really is no exceptional strategy on the run line and I can't remember anyone else mentioning it before

Good luck to all, let's hope for a good run and all the series to end before the weekend!

[pagodo]

Looks like a massive Game 1 hitting streak is coming soon
Loved the Rays getting those runs in the ninth off JV and winning the game in the end, wow.

UPDATE
Thursday, 4/12

Shutouts on Wednesday (4/11):
WSH @ NYM, 4-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/11):
fade St Louis, game 4
fade NY Yankees, game 3
fade Ch White Sox, game 2
fade Kansas City, game 2
fade Colorado, game 1
fade Seattle, game 1
fade Oakland, game 1

PLAYS (4/12):
fade Colorado, game 2
fade Seattle, game 2
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(NYY g4, CWS g3, OAK g2, NYM g1: all on 4/13)


Game 1: 3-10
Game 2: 2-5
Game 3: 2-2
Game 4: 1-0
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (8-0)


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[pagodo]

System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/11):
tail Philadelphia, game 4
tail Tampa Bay, game 2
tail Oakland, game 2
tail San Francisco, game 1
tail Texas, game 1
tail Kansas City, game 1

PLAYS (4/12):
tail San Francisco, game 2
tail Texas, game 2
tail Washington, game 1
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(KC g2 on 4/13)


Game 1: 4-9
Game 2: 4-2
Game 3: 1-1
Game 4: 1-0
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (10-0)


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Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
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[aznknightt]

Hey Pagodo,

Really interested in this system, thanks for the thread. Still a little lost after reading the thread and labby instructions. Will it be too much trouble for you to post your current lines? Thinking of starting today using your exact lines... Thanks.

Azn

[thelimit0310]

Its all moneyline...

Thanks for the early post Pagodo!

[analyzer]

Thanks pagodo!

[pagodo]

Hey Pagodo,

Really interested in this system, thanks for the thread. Still a little lost after reading the thread and labby instructions. Will it be too much trouble for you to post your current lines? Thinking of starting today using your exact lines... Thanks.

(Starting line: 14 x 4 = 2 units = 0.56% BR)

1-6: 49.1 x 9
2-5: 29.9 x 4
3-4: 29.0 x 4

Current profit / loss: -197,3 (-1,97% BR)

(4/12):
Giants g2 (-123) 73,6 to win 59,8
Rangers g2 (-224) 134 to win 59,8
Nationals g1 (-105) 103,2 to win 98,2

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Guys, I'll be very busy these next few days, but I'll have updates on time through the weekend.
I might be unavailable for three to four days from Tuesday onwards.
Also, thanks for all the points, putting them to good use

Looks like a very good day.
ChC shut Milwaukee out. Three hits for the Brewers. Wow.
Is Garza really that good? Yep.

[Teamprofit101]

we had a good day finally with the system. I hope it picks up from here...

Pagodo, you are doing an awesome job

Those of you following my spreadsheet let me know if there is anything i should add to it or remove.

Unfortunately since i messed up my labby lines i have been a bit picky with my plays so i missed out on a few good wins that would have helped alot to make my system 1 lines smaller.

like i said before i have a limited bankroll right now due to some stupid decisions i made.....so i will try my best to keep my lines in check but system 1 is killing me so i'm trying to stay away a bit lol.

[pagodo]

UPDATE
Friday, 4/13

Shutouts on Thursday (4/12):
ChC v MIL, 8-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/12):
fade Colorado, game 2
fade Seattle, game 2

PLAYS (4/13):
fade NY Yankees, game 4
fade Ch White Sox, game 3
fade Oakland, game 2
fade NY Mets, game 1
fade Milwaukee, game 1


Game 1: 3-10
Game 2: 4-5
Game 3: 2-2
Game 4: 1-0
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (10-0)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/12):
tail San Francisco, game 2
tail Texas, game 2
tail Washington, game 1

PLAYS (4/13):
tail Kansas City, game 2
tail Ch Cubs, game 1


Game 1: 5-9
Game 2: 6-2
Game 3: 1-1
Game 4: 1-0
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (13-0)


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Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
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[Teamprofit101]

Good luck today guys!!!

I have put in our 7 plays and two extra plays for the day.........if i can go 9-0 today i will be able to make better adjustments on the lines.

I really need that Yankees fade to hit though lol

[pagodo]

UPDATE
Saturday, 4/14

Shutouts on Friday (4/13):
NYY v LAA, 5-0
SF v PIT, 5-0
OAK @ SEA, 4-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/13):
fade NY Yankees, game 4
fade Ch White Sox, game 3
fade Oakland, game 2
fade NY Mets, game 1
fade Milwaukee, game 1

PLAYS (4/14):
fade NY Yankees, game 5
fade Ch White Sox, game 4
fade Oakland, game 3
fade NY Mets, game 2
fade Pittsburgh, game 1
fade LA Angels, game 1
fade Seattle, game 1


Game 1: 4-11
Game 2: 4-6
Game 3: 2-3
Game 4: 1-1
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (11-0)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/13):
tail Kansas City, game 2
tail Ch Cubs, game 1

PLAYS (4/14):
tail Kansas City, game 3
tail NY Yankees, game 1
tail Oakland, game 1
tail San Francisco, game 1


Game 1: 6-9
Game 2: 6-3
Game 3: 1-1
Game 4: 1-0
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (14-0)


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Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
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[keemosabi]

Is anybody else thinking of putting this system on hold for a few weeks until things stabilize amongst the teams?

[thelimit0310]

Long term stats prove that we'll have a turn around, the big question is when. The system has performed very badly these first 2 weeks thats for sure but I'll continue with it.

[keemosabi]

Long term stats prove that we'll have a turn around, the big question is when. The system has performed very badly these first 2 weeks thats for sure but I'll continue with it.

I'm definitely in for the long-haul as well, I'm just considering taking a short break because weird things seem to happen in baseball during the beginning and end of the season.

Also, how do people handle conflicting teams? For example, today we're fading both the Yanks and the Angels, but they play each other. Do you all just fade the team that's deeper in the chase?

[DollarBill10]

Since there are so many methods out here, I was wondering if any of you had a method for wagering on both sides of the game. For instance, on a -110 line for both ends (such as bball) it is simple to figure out, but for baseball it is a bit more detailed. Before I attempt (although I have tried numerous times already), does anyone have something to figure it out without having to play BOTH sides.

Here is an example such as today. I am playing this system as $20 / unit with a 6 game chase. (no labby)

SYS DATE SPORT WAGER LINE RISK WIN

FADE	4/14	MLB	LA Angels	+110	$155.01	$170.51
TAIL	4/14	MLB	NY Yankees	-120	$24.00	$20.00
FADE	4/14	MLB	NY Yankees	-120	$24.00	$20.00

So...is there anyway to just play the LA game for a different amount to come out with the same amount to win in the end?

Any help would be appreciated...thanks so much!!!

[thelimit0310]

To everyone asking about head to head bets...

You don't want to bet in a way where you are set to gain/lose an equal amount. You have to play what the lines tell you, that's the best way. If the games correspond to 2 different lines, play the amount on the line. Same goes if both plays are on the same line. Yes one side of the game will be weighted heavier, but thats okay in the end your still scratching off numbers and working your way towards cleared lines.

[pagodo]

^ ^ ^

[Nova99]

I'm definitely in for the long-haul as well, I'm just considering taking a short break because weird things seem to happen in baseball during the beginning and end of the season.

So far we are catching teams on an off night and then they are facing teams playing well so several series have gone 3 or 4 and also we have lost a few juiced up games, the current Philly series took quite a few units down. But I dont know if things will be better in a few weeks because any team can be shut out on a bad night, so we just have to hope the system will yield 55-60% wins so we can clear the lines soon!

[pagodo]

Nova99, you're absolutely right.
Both Phillies' series did some damage to the records (and labby lines) this month, but it will all smooth over.
I'm only playing System 2 with only some additional games from S1 and I'm also already at 12% BR in play and slightly in the red.
Last season I was twice in a situation when the losses and units in play amounted to almost 30% BR.
The system would hit a sweet spot then and clear everything nice and tidy.



UPDATE
Sunday, 4/15

Shutouts on Saturday (4/14):
NYM @ PHL, 5-0
SEA vs OAK, 4-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/14):
fade NY Yankees, game 5
fade Ch White Sox, game 4
fade Oakland, game 3
fade NY Mets, game 2
fade Pittsburgh, game 1
fade LA Angels, game 1
fade Seattle, game 1

PLAYS (4/15):
fade Ch White Sox, game 5
fade NY Mets, game 3
fade LA Angels, game 2
fade Seattle, game 2
fade Oakland, game 1
fade Philadelphia, game 1


Game 1: 5-13
Game 2: 4-7
Game 3: 3-3
Game 4: 1-2
Game 5: 1-0
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (14-0)

[pagodo]

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/14):
tail Kansas City, game 3
tail NY Yankees, game 1
tail Oakland, game 1
tail San Francisco, game 1

PLAYS (4/15):
tail Kansas City, game 4
tail NY Yankees, game 2
tail Oakland, game 2
tail Seattle, game 1
tail NY Mets, game 1


Game 1: 7-11
Game 2: 6-3
Game 3: 1-2
Game 4: 1-0
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (15-0)


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Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
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[keemosabi]

To everyone asking about head to head bets...

You don't want to bet in a way where you are set to gain/lose an equal amount. You have to play what the lines tell you, that's the best way. If the games correspond to 2 different lines, play the amount on the line. Same goes if both plays are on the same line. Yes one side of the game will be weighted heavier, but thats okay in the end your still scratching off numbers and working your way towards cleared lines.

I'm pretty sure I understand what you're saying, but you're implying we play both sides of the game, right?

[keemosabi]

Also, is anyone thinking of taking the Phils -1 to avoid all that juice?

[pagodo]

UPDATE
Monday, 4/16

No shutouts on Sunday.


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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out):

Results (4/15):
fade Ch White Sox, game 5
fade NY Mets, game 3
fade LA Angels, game 2
fade Seattle, game 2
fade Oakland, game 1
fade Philadelphia, game 1

PLAYS (4/16):
fade Philadelphia, game 2
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(SEA g3 on 4/17)

Game 1: 6-14
Game 2: 5-8
Game 3: 4-3
Game 4: 1-2
Game 5: 2-0
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 1 = (18-0)

[pagodo]

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/15):
tail Kansas City, game 4
tail NY Yankees, game 2
tail Oakland, game 2
tail Seattle, game 1
tail NY Mets, game 1

PLAYS (4/16):
tail Kansas City, game 5
tail Oakland, game 3
tail NY Mets, game 2
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Game 1: 8-12
Game 2: 7-4
Game 3: 1-2
Game 4: 1-1
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (17-0)


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Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
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[Nova99]

Pagodo - I think you made a typo, for system 1 we should fade Oakland since they were shutout by Seattle on Saturday and yesterday Seattle beat Oakland in game 1 of the chase so that should be over.

System 1 should only have the Phillies left right now.

[keemosabi]

Pagodo - I think you made a typo, for system 1 we should fade Oakland since they were shutout by Seattle on Saturday and yesterday Seattle beat Oakland in game 1 of the chase so that should be over.

System 1 should only have the Phillies left right now.

Oakland also shut-out the Mariners on 4/13, which opened a fade on the Mariners. The Mariners then beat Oakland in its next two games so that fade lost those two days, leaving us with game 3 of fading the Mariners. Since the Mariners don't play today, that fade will continue tomorrow.

[gofightingirish]

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out):

Results (4/15):
tail Kansas City, game 4
tail NY Yankees, game 2
tail Oakland, game 2
tail Seattle, game 1
tail NY Mets, game 1

PLAYS (4/16):
tail Kansas City, game 5
tail Oakland, game 3
tail NY Mets, game 2
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Game 1: 8-12
Game 2: 7-4
Game 3: 1-2
Game 4: 1-1
Game 5: -
Game 6: -

SYSTEM 2 = (17-0)


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Please go to posts #1 and #2 for detailed information on the strategy.
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Anybody a little worried about these follow plays? I am on the follow and not the fade but I am a little skeptic today......am I alone?

[gofightingirish]

anybody? anybody? just sayin

[analyzer]

I'm not worried - season is young and system losses can be overcome just as long as you are playing the correct strategy.

[Nova99]

Oakland also shut-out the Mariners on 4/13, which opened a fade on the Mariners. The Mariners then beat Oakland in its next two games so that fade lost those two days, leaving us with game 3 of fading the Mariners. Since the Mariners don't play today, that fade will continue tomorrow.

Gotcha, I forgot about that one. Thanks for the clear up.

This is not a complaint of the system but ever get the funky feeling when you try a system everything seems to work against you? I couldnt help but chuckle a bit at the fact we faded the White Sox for 4 and tonight they just fall over to the Orioles in the 9th and 10th. KC beats the Angels twice and then lose to Oakland last week and we waited for Philly to score against the Mets for 2.5 games and in the first fade game against them they score 4 in the first. Funny how sports works sometimes

[DustyDiamond]

System is 18-0 but I'm down units. Is the way I'm doing my labby not right?
I'm running a three line labby with Games 1 and 4 on line 1 Games 2 and 5 on line 2 and Games 3 and 6 on Line 3.
I'm doing a two strike method as my roll isn't high enough for three strike.
Lets say I lose an (A) bet I take 50% of the loss and add a number to Line 1 and then take the other 50% and divide it into line 2 for example.

10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

Ok lets say I lose an (A) bet where I bet 40 to win 20.

Line are now

10-10-10-10-20
15-15-15-15
10-10-10-10

I would then divide out Line 1 to spread the loss so my final lines look like
12-12-12-12-12
15-15-15-15
10-10-10-10



If I win Game 2 I then cross off two lines form Line 2, so lines are:
12-12-12-12-12
x-15-15-x
10-10-10-10

Am I doing something wrong?

[thelimit0310]

The system is not plus units, it just has a positive win record, and that doesn't matter when it comes to the labby. You profit when you clear lines.

[parlay100]

The more you divide up the losses the more units you have to win. BUT the less you are at risk. I do the same and in the negative too. but one line clear and you are back in action. The labby is about lowering the risk. The guys that martingale get one loss and the season is over. Labby guys still have a bankroll.

[keemosabi]

Not sure where pagodo is but are these the plays that people have for today?

Fade SEA, Game 3
Fade PHI, Game 3
Fade BOS, Game 1
Fade OAK, Game 1

I don't follow the other system so perhaps somebody could chip in the plays for that.

[analyzer]

All of the below are on the follow system based on what I have:

Athletics - G4
Royals - G6
Rays - G1
Angels - G1

Good luck!