"The Hedge Chase" Totals System

[G's pks]

lets keep this post at the forefront it is all that matters...later....

Originally Posted by dlunc3
The Hedge Chase

2011 System to date: 20-45 losses now in a week on chasing
System profit/loss: -8.53 units
Current open series: 3 (-5.61 units)

Games for 6/19/11:

Pitt *OVER* - 13:05 EST (A bet)lost
Cincy *OVER* - 13:10 EST (B bet) Lost(another C)
Texas *UNDER* - 13:35 EST (A bet)won
Minny *OVER* - 14:10 EST (A bet)won
SL *UNDER* - 14:15 EST (A bet)Lost
SF *OVER* - 16:05 EST (A bet)Lost
Seattle *OVER* - 16:10 EST (C bet)Lost another "C" 5 in a week more than I heard crap about from you for losing 3 all year!
Houston *UNDER* - 16:10 EST (B bet)won



**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals

Have to go now...I have not laughed so hard for a while...take care ...

[BRAVES1985]

im not trying to tell you how to do your system or anything but have you considered using these picks but using a labby


i could see a labby having success in the long run with these picks

[G's pks]

im not trying to tell you how to do your system or anything but have you considered using these picks but using a labby


i could see a labby having success in the long run with these picks

The other idea would be to go to a "D" it might work a little but seeing the picks are random and awful up to now impossible to tell with all the losing..almost every play has gone to b or c and lost! But a labby line starting very low might work...hey betting 10 games a day...if you have a large enough roll and big stones even a system that loses so much might win by extending it...

[BRAVES1985]

The other idea would be to go to a "D" it might work a little but seeing the picks are random and awful up to now impossible to tell with all the losing..almost every play has gone to b or c and lost! But a labby line starting very low might work...hey betting 10 games a day...if you have a large enough roll and big stones even a system that loses so much might win by extending it...

D bets are brutal for the bankroll

[G's pks]

D bets are brutal for the bankroll

i know saw what wallcos system did....this system has been brutal period...

[dlunc3]

Hey G... noticed you been pretty busy trashing losing systems today... It appears you did not have any family to spend fathers day with. I feel for people like you, regardless of your situation. Everyone deserves to spend special days with their families, not on some sports betting forum trashing peoples systems all day. Let me know if you are every in the Jersey/PA area... we can go out for drinks, on me

Any yea braves, labby definately would be a good idea... dont think any money management strategy would have saved the system this week though... Some times you just need to flat out win some games! haha too much losing goin on here this week! But yes, if it were my system I would no doubt think about implementing a solid labby structure... but, the backtest results I have been given from hedgepeth have been done using the traditional A,B,C chase, so that is how I am gonna track it for now. I definately like your thinking though.

I by no means at all are standing up for or backing the system, bc like G has graciously pointed out, it has been flat out brutal this week. What I have said before though, and will say again..I will continue to track the system and its results, bc I trust JH (hedgepeth) and the backtest results he has given me. He deserves more then a one week trial period in my opinion. I have not done the math for today yet, but say the system is down 20 units after this week... the good news is that this system has so many plays, that it could easily be back to even by this time next week... not saying that it will, but it does have the possibility. Unlike Gs system, and many others, once you get it a hole, it does not need to take a minimum of 2 months to get back even. Again, to refer to Gs system... he has gone undefeated now for almost 2 months!! yet still is not completely recovered from his rough start, and is still down a slight amount.

So anyway.. hopefully JH can turn this ship around.. ill continue to post, and hopefully you especially G, will stay so interested in how it turns out, whether good or bad. Good luck on all your plays tonight... i know the public is all over the yanks... Vegas might be making bank unless the yanks can get their acts together. Have a nice rest of Fathers Day.

[Mad Capper34]

What are you talking about? G sees his family everyday when he wakes up and goes upstairs from the basement for breakfast.

[J.M. Disciple]

you guys really need to squash whatever beef you have with G. Its turning into a 16yr old immature girl battle. Althought its some what funny watching everyone go back in forth, its also some what annoying. Just block each other.

I personally like some of the stats he provides, just wish the bickering would stop.

[Duby]

What are you talking about? G sees his family everyday when he wakes up and goes upstairs from the basement for breakfast.

This made me laugh. Too funny!

[axa]

He'll be better, sooner or later!

[GoG1211]

looks like party is over here...

[dlunc3]

The Hedge Chase

2011 System to date: 23-5
System profit/loss: -13.79 units
Current open series: 4 (-6.71 units)

Games from 6/19/11:

Pitt *OVER* - 13:05 EST (A bet) LOSS
Cincy *OVER* - 13:10 EST (B bet) LOSS
Texas *UNDER* - 13:35 EST (A bet) WIN
Minny *OVER* - 14:10 EST (A bet) WIN
SL *UNDER* - 14:15 EST (A bet) LOSS
SF *OVER* - 16:05 EST (A bet) LOSS
Seattle *OVER* - 16:10 EST (C bet) LOSS
Houston *UNDER* - 16:10 EST (B bet) WIN


Plays for 6/20/11

Pitt *OVER* - 19:05 EST (B bet)
Cleveland *UNDER* - 19:05 EST (A bet)
Toronto *OVER* - 19:10 EST (A bet)
Cincy *OVER* - 19:10 EST (C bet)
LAA *UNDER* - 19:10 EST (A bet)
TB *UNDER* - 20:10 EST (A bet)

**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals


Good luck!

[dlunc3]

sorry this is late... but just got in and saw my email from JH.. he had it posted on his thread in the service section at 6:15:

Do not play the Cleveland under or the LAA under tonight...they are no longer official plays...if you've already made your bets, I apologize and hope that they at least wind up splitting...but either way they will not count against the official record.

[G's pks]

First of all most people once they place a bet do not sit there 3 hours later after most of the games have started expecting a post telling them to cancel plays...even if somehow there was a miracle...(books do not let you cancel plays once the line changes normally)..this guy hedpeth is a complete joke...and this system sucks!

2-4 with another "C"bet loss...end this embarassment...most people cannot afford to start down over 20 units on a system less than a week old...so seriously...my thread has not had a loss in two months you have had 6 "C" losses in a week and you come in my thread with all your negative crap...I am starting to wonder what is wrong with you...

Why in the world if these are not your plays/thread would you continue to post these horrible losing plays????



Your mentor hedpeth said this would be a big week...well with another "C" loss...six in a week who the hell wuld buy anything from a joke like this?

Hopefully not one single person fell for this scammer hedpeth who wanted people to pay for this system!

Warning take a look at the results before you play a single game....

[Pherst]

sorry this is late... but just got in and saw my email from JH.. he had it posted on his thread in the service section at 6:15:

Do not play the Cleveland under or the LAA under tonight...they are no longer official plays...if you've already made your bets, I apologize and hope that they at least wind up splitting...but either way they will not count against the official record.

No big deal - the way I see it if you did play those they went 1-1 so you net out about the same and only lose the juice. Helpful considering they were both A bets. Any further down the stream and it could have been a different story...

[Pherst]

First of all most people once they place a bet do not sit there 3 hours later after most of the games have started expecting a post telling them to cancel plays...even if somehow there was a miracle...(books do not let you cancel plays once the line changes normally)..this guy hedpeth is a complete joke...and this system sucks!

2-4 with another "C"bet loss...end this embarassment...most people cannot afford to start down over 20 units on a system less than a week old...so seriously...my thread has not had a loss in two months you have had 6 "C" losses in a week and you come in my thread with all your negative crap...I am starting to wonder what is wrong with you...

Why in the world if these are not your plays/thread would you continue to post these horrible losing plays????



Your mentor hedpeth said this would be a big week...well with another "C" loss...six in a week who the hell wuld buy anything from a joke like this?

Hopefully not one single person fell for this scammer hedpeth who wanted people to pay for this system!

Warning take a look at the results before you play a single game....

Agreed - it should be scrapped with the way it's performing

[axa]

gl on your plays today

[dlunc3]

First of all most people once they place a bet do not sit there 3 hours later after most of the games have started expecting a post telling them to cancel plays...even if somehow there was a miracle...(books do not let you cancel plays once the line changes normally)..this guy hedpeth is a complete joke...and this system sucks!

2-4 with another "C"bet loss...end this embarassment...most people cannot afford to start down over 20 units on a system less than a week old...so seriously...my thread has not had a loss in two months you have had 6 "C" losses in a week and you come in my thread with all your negative crap...I am starting to wonder what is wrong with you...

Why in the world if these are not your plays/thread would you continue to post these horrible losing plays????



Your mentor hedpeth said this would be a big week...well with another "C" loss...six in a week who the hell wuld buy anything from a joke like this?

Hopefully not one single person fell for this scammer hedpeth who wanted people to pay for this system!

Warning take a look at the results before you play a single game....

G, no one is arguing that your system is not better. Your system is very good, it just is a shame that you can not accept or consider anyone elses advise or criticism from time to time, bc believe it or not, there are a lot of good sports mind on this forum that could help you. You are 50-0 in your last 50 plays, yet you have not even made 5 units of profit That is absolutely insane to me. Regardless of that, you have guys like Dexter (who has a thread that is up over 80 units) and I who have come in offering advise, and all you do is put a wall up and get defensive immediately. You turn it into a 14 yr old fighting match when that is not needed.

You are correct, this system has been nothing but bad since I started to post it. I have not for one second disputed that. It is not my system, as I said from the start---good or bad, I take no credit. I am here to post and track its results... But John Morrisons thread is still kicking correct? even though he is down probably around 50 units this summer? Hoodini still has his thread up and running even though he is down close to 50 units as well. Wallco system is up on the summer, but as of right now including his pending open series, he is down 9 units since starting to post it on this forum. So why do you care so much about this one? Like I said, I will continue to track the plays... bad weeks do happen believe it or not. But when I see backtest results like I saw for this system, I dont see any harm in tracking it. No one is forcing anyone to make the plays and I am putting the record in every one of my posts for everyone to see. There is no secret here. I am purely posting a system for tracking purposes that has a great track record over the past four years.

[dlunc3]

No big deal - the way I see it if you did play those they went 1-1 so you net out about the same and only lose the juice. Helpful considering they were both A bets. Any further down the stream and it could have been a different story...

Yea, I wish I could have posted them sooner, but like I said, was not home in time. Over in the service section, Hedgepeth had it posted sooner, but I unfortunately was not back in time. Luckily at this point im pretty sure noone is doing anything more then tracking anyway

[dlunc3]

Agreed - it should be scrapped with the way it's performing

Should John Morrisons thread be scrapped too? What is the harm in purely tracking a system? Morrison has lost double the units taht this system has lost, yet it is still fun to track, bc it does have some good results in past years

[dlunc3]

gl on your plays today

Thanks man, you too

[G's pks]

Should John Morrisons thread be scrapped too? What is the harm in purely tracking a system? Morrison has lost double the units taht this system has lost, yet it is still fun to track, bc it does have some good results in past years

So now that you are down a ton of money it is just tracking not real money?

[Iamlong]

G- get a ******* life .. Don't u have anything better to do then trash other systems? You are a loser who will probably live with mom until she dies. Go watch your Porno, maybe some star wars and perhaps even some pokemon card games and stay away . U still have aids

[dlunc3]

So now that you are down a ton of money it is just tracking not real money?

I made good money going 25-1 when I started this thread, but since, lost all of that. So as of Sunday, yes, it turned into tracking unfortunately.

[dlunc3]

G- get a ******* life .. Don't u have anything better to do then trash other systems? You are a loser who will probably live with mom until she dies. Go watch your Porno, maybe some star wars and perhaps even some pokemon card games and stay away . U still have aids

there is a constant debate in these forums... is G a 16 yr old boy with nothing better to do all day? Or is he a lonely 60 yr old man? hmmmmmm

as the Tootsie Pop owl would say...the world may never know...

[Iamlong]

there is a constant debate in these forums... is G a 16 yr old boy with nothing better to do all day? Or is he a lonely 60 yr old man? hmmmmmm

as the Tootsie Pop owl would say...the world may never know...

LOL..I would probably say the 60 year old man..Although I do picture him a cross of the 40 year old virgin and Chaz from Wedding Crashers..living the basement with mom and being a loser..

[dlunc3]

The Hedge Chase

2011 System to date: 24-6
System profit/loss: -22.05 units
Current open series: 4 (-4.4 units)

Games from 6/20/11:

Pitt *OVER* - 19:05 EST (B bet) WIN
Toronto *OVER* - 19:10 EST (A bet) LOSS
Cincy *OVER* - 19:10 EST (C bet) LOSS
TB *UNDER* - 20:10 EST (A bet) LOSS

Plays for 6/21/11:

Pitt *UNDER* - 19:05 EST (A bet)
Toronto *OVER* - 19:10 EST (B bet)
TB *UNDER* - 20:10 EST (B bet)
SL *UNDER* - 20:15 EST (B bet)
LAD *UNDER* - 22:10 EST (A bet)
SF *OVER* - 22:15 EST (B bet)
Oakland *UNDER* - 19:10 EST (A bet)

**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals

[jphil]

just passin through.

[dlunc3]

keep on movin haha try again in a few weeks, maybe it will look at least a little prettier

[jphil]

beautiful! that was easy!

[Pherst]

Should John Morrisons thread be scrapped too? What is the harm in purely tracking a system? Morrison has lost double the units taht this system has lost, yet it is still fun to track, bc it does have some good results in past years

Well I'm sure there were people trailing this with such a promising start. Sense then it's turned pear-shaped and is on the slide. John Morrison's 'system' is exactly the same as this - a chase system that will work most of the time (the laws of probability / possibility suggest it has to) but unless you have the bankroll and balls to support it over the long term, a bad run usually finishes most people.

[pagodo]

Well I'm sure there were people trailing this with such a promising start. Sense then it's turned pear-shaped and is on the slide. John Morrison's 'system' is exactly the same as this - a chase system that will work most of the time (the laws of probability / possibility suggest it has to) but unless you have the bankroll and balls to support it over the long term, a bad run usually finishes most people.

Pherst, you are right, of course, every chase system has to have a bad run which will destroy lots and lots of rolls, but there is one critical difference between JM and this -- with JM you get very little action with outrageous juice, so a loss is always devastating. Here, we have many plays daily and a loss does not cost as much. Dlunc3 will be tracking the plays this season and we'll see how it performs. Personally, I'm using a labby (very small unit size) with these plays and as long as they hit ~35% short-term I'll be up; and even if they hit ~50% in the long term (and the system closes the season down units), I will be absolutely satisfied as there's barely any juice involved and I will be up money.

[axa]

is G a 16 yr old boy with nothing better to do all day? Perhaps

[jphil]

Now that's a bargain at any price!

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sports-promotions-links/1095401-hedge-chase-formerly-known-perfect-picks-p3.html

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sports-promotions-links/1139907-hedge-fade.html#post10531335

[dlunc3]

As jphil has posted... hedgepeth is changing the way he is doing things...

I originally started this thread based on the amazing backtest numbers that I was told that this system had. I also had gone 25-1 (+17 units) in the few weeks that I had played it. As you know though, since I started to post, im not sure there has been even one winning night?

So since Hedgepeth is going a different direction, and is no longer basing his picks on thorough backtest results, I will no longer be posting. If you would like to continue following him though, his thread in the service section is:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sports-promotions-links/1095401-hedge-chase-formerly-known-perfect-picks-p3.html

hopefully things turn around over there