Wow, Philly!
And did the Twins score 8 runs in the first?
And did the Twins score 8 runs in the first?
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I'm just messing around with you, I am a Phils fan and I was relieving seven innings of frustration.Comment -
CASH The Phillies (D)
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It is kinda funny how it is really quiet in here after a big win? Lol...Great jib, Wallco!!!Comment -
Very good +money wins today! Thanks Wallco!!!Comment -
Did anyone else get lucky and get Phils at +105? Not a lot, but I got a little extra.Comment -
Nice D bet cashes on B2B nights Wallco!
I've got a D bet on Crusher FADE with the Twins too so tonight may end up being a big night!
Appreciate the plays!Comment -
I got lucky with Pittsburgh at 2,10
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Congrats Wallco for the (D) bet and for the (A) +money bets.
Now let's clean it up!!!Comment -
No, I love the Phils, but hate when they are a play. That was a St Louis continuation (D) bet.Comment -
Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 106-7
System profit/loss: +25.07 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +4.80 units (91-7) (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-9.41 units)
(6/21/11) Philadelphia (-1½) (D) – Win
(6/21/11) Baltimore (M/L) (B) – Loss
(6/21/11) Baltimore (-1½) (B) – Loss
(6/21/11) L.A. Angels (-1½) (B) – Loss
(6/21/11) Oakland (M/L) (A) – Win
(6/21/11) Minnesota (M/L) (A) – Win
(A) 58-58
(B) 25-33
(C) 14-16
(D) 9-7
Games for (6/22/11):
L.A. Angels (-1½) @ Florida (C) (7:10 pm EDT)
Baltimore (M/L) @ Pittsburgh (C) (12:35 pm EDT)
Baltimore (-1½) @ Pittsburgh (C) (12:35 pm EDT)
** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.Comment -
Oh yes, a early game.. Comment -
Angels and O's F'd me bad...thank god the CWS came thru, i need an early winnerComment -
JM MLB System
2011 Official season series record 11-1 (v1)
(A) 8-4
(B) 2-2
(C) 1-1
V2 plays 2-1
V3 system 2-1
Unofficial series 8-0
Upcoming Plays
(7/01/2011) Cincinnati v Cleveland
(7/01/2011) San Diego @ Seattle
Notes: Just a quick update. There are 4 possible sweeps today but if any happen there probably won't be any plays because of interleague.I'm a little worried about Morrison, he hasn't sent me one single email trying to sell me something. I hope he's okay. LOL
Will keep you all informed between plays. GL allComment -
Wallco, could only throw you 2 points. I used your philly (D) bet to clean up a few plays. I had a really nice night. Used that (D) as a parlay anchor. Worked real nice. Thanks.Comment -
Had both D bets on Philadelphia and Texas at +100, so "just" one unit up on those, but played x1.5 unit on Oakland and Minnesota, so a wonderful two nights overall.
The BAL@PIT lines are even at the moment (-104/-106 at one book, -107/-103 at the other, Baltimore at -110 at scoresandodds). I really hope to bet against the O's tonight (and for as long as possible, really), we lost four straight on them on a series a few weeks ago; I watched two of these four games and I was appalled at how miserable these guys were. Out of two hopeless teams I think I'd rather pick Pittsburgh. Let's see how the line will move and hopefully we can clear those C bets with some nice plus money!
I'm getting worried about my 'over 3' bet.
Thanks for the updates, Hagball!Comment -
Looking for some sound advice here. I started this system a week and a half ago using an aggressive 2 line labby. Line 1 for A and C games and Line 2 for B and D games. I have been basically middling since there hasnt been any days where we have been above .500 in win percentage and my line totals have gotten large because of rolling the Hoodini's losses (1-9 after I jumped aboard his system before he disappeared). Today is a "gamblers day" for me. If I lose all 3 today I will lose approximATELY 30% of my bank. If I lose 2 out of 3 it will take approximately 10% of my bank. Of course the opposite could occur. My other option is to just stop where I am at, which is down about 9 units and call it quits with this. No big deal. I am running a personal system that I started on May 20th that is up 48 Units, it's so high partly because I rolled some of the Hoodini losses into it also and have recouped. The action junky in me wants to roll with Wallco, but the older, mature me wants to protect the roll. What would you guys do?Comment -
1. Stay with your own system if you are up 48 units.
2. Don't let anyone at SBR influence your decisions. (me)
3. Protect your roll at all costs, stay consistent in what you do.Comment -
As the previous poster said = protect your roll, the first and foremost rule of sports investing.
Never jump aboard an untested system, like you did with the vanishing man.
And concerning Wallco's plays, my advice would be -- spread the money in play against three or four lines and/or take the starting unit size down a bit.Comment -
Hey Supereagle, the thing with Wallcos system is that it loses quite often, and has losing days quite often as well. If you look at his backtests, his season average is consistently about 50% for w/l ratio, with A and B bets having an under 50% win rate. The value of this system is the + money bets, you almost HAVE to play them to be successful here.
Labbying a system like this has proven tricky because of this 50%. I'm still trying to figure out a better method than what I have, as all it takes is 1 bad day to kill your lines (which since I've hopped on board has happened frequently). Just a few days ago we had a 1-6 night, which inflated my lines dramatically, the night afterwords was 2-4, making my lines even longer/bigger. Since that night we have returned to 50%, but that's just not high enough to recoup, as at that point your lines are way too big to divide through and to recover in length would take 2 weeks worth of series.
My opinion is this, if you don't want to chase it, you should probably get out while you can. I've been in recovery mode since I started running this system almost 1 month ago, never had even a dollar of profit. Sure I hopped on at a bad time, most of our losses came in this month alone, but that doesn't matter if the system consistently has bad nights like I mentioned. I actually recovered all but a few units in a week after suffering 4 losses. But then a 5th loss came and I was down again. Almost recovered a 2nd time and then we go 3-10 in 2 days and I'm back to recovering for a 3rd time. All it takes is a bad night.Comment -
This is great advice if you wish to continue to play as I have. On days where there are many A bets at once, only bet a 4th of a unit on each game and let them play out to deeper series. They WILL lose more than they win long term. Same goes for B, if there are 4+ B plays for a day, play a fraction of your unit size, they WILL lose more than they win. With this system you need a small unit size to begin with due to all the losses that will occur, and then on heavy play nights you need to lower the size even more due to the very real possibility of having a big losing night.
Another method is to create another line for your losses, and on a big + money bet or a play you like, bet a number on that loss line (should be your total losses / 4), you can also do this for every C bet as the C bets win over 50% long term.
Best of luck.Comment -
One more thing before I shut up, here are the winning percentages for 5 years, including the 2006 season but not including the current 2011 season.
A) 666/1423 = 47%
B) 342/757 = 45%
C) 233/415 = 56%
D) 99/182 = 54%
Since all levels are above 33% it is possible to play 1 line for each level, like so:
A 5-5-5-5
B 5-5-5-5
C 5-5-5-5
D 5-5-5-5
This gives you the ability to divide your losses through 16 numbers instead of 8. Or keep your lines from getting too long. The way you were playing also works well, as combining the percentages for A/C and B/D gives you about 50% win rate, also over 33%. But as I said playing this way can cause some trouble as all it takes is a losing series or a bad night to skew your lines and put you in recovery mode for a few weeks. If you find a better working method, please share it! I myself am considering playing 1 line each level as posted above, I see no reason why it can't work, and it keeps line growth to a minimum. Just be careful as the low number of D plays may cause the line to take a very long time to clear. Expect to have only 1-2 plays a month on that line.Comment -
Thanks for the advice guys. limit, Im glad you responded since you are using something similar to me. Im using the 4 strike labby. If I could get just another day here and there that is over .500, even if it was 1 game over, I think I would be in good shape here. The 1st day I came aboard this went 6-1. I also experienced the 1-6 day. The only real regret I have here so far is rolling my Hoodini lines in. At some point, soon Im sure, this will have a line clearing day. Because today's are C plays, I think I will let it fly 1 more time on the Orioles. After doing the math, if the Orioles go down I will drop 14% of my bank. That will be my stopping point. Im secure with that loss if it happens. If the Orioles win, I am also out and will focus on my own system that only involves going 2 games into a series and also has a limited number of series at a time, which is taylor made for any labby setup, aggressive or conservative. Thanks again guys and best of luck to you all.Comment -
The way I have been doing it is dividing the losses back into the line while also adding 1 number to EACH line with every loss. I have just been too aggressive at the wrong time. I feel like it would work over the long run and I feel CERTAIN that it would work with 4 lines. I am specifically talking about the 4 strike method where the sum of the beginning line 1 totals 1 unit and the sum of beginning line 2 totals 1 unit. Today I totaled up my 2 long lines and divided by 8, thus is why my Baltimore play is so large and will be final if it losses. Remember, with the 4 strike method, hitting 20% breaks even, but the negative is it requires a larger bank.Comment -
Chillax
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Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 6/22/11
2011 System to date: 106-7
System profit/loss: +25.07 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +4.80 units (91-7) (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-9.41 units)
L.A. Angels (-1½) @ Florida (C) (7:10 pm EDT)
Baltimore (M/L) @ Pittsburgh (C) *Official* (12:35 pm EDT)
Baltimore (-1½) @ Pittsburgh (C) *Official* (12:35 pm EDT)
** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.Comment -
Using the 4 strike method with the 4 line labby i described above? I might take this into account when I recreate my lines.
I was considering only lowering my unit size and continue playing with 2 lines. But I could try the 4 strike method with both lines as well. So you think dividing and adding up all the numbers works better than totaling the first 3 numbers plus the last number, not dividing losses?Comment -
Good luck you guys, hope Baltimore got their game face on.Comment -
My system has been very successful doing a chase,, and that is how all my results are posted. People decided to apply labby and don't seem to be getting the same results. I am not a fan of labbys because each individual game seems to play more important of a role than the winning game in a chase, where the individual games don't matter because all losses are recouped in one shot.Comment
