John Morrison 2011 MLB

[juice050]

does anyone have this wnba system jm talks about?

[knugen]

JM says in his email That Dallas is the team to bet on??

[jolmscheid]

$$$Printing System
6/5
NYY $6.53 to win $5.22
STL $8.61 to win $5.22
ARI $16.70 to win $10.44
Phi $19.84 to win $10.44



new Labby lines for 6/5/11 look like this:
5.22
5.22
5.22 – 5.22
5.22 – 5.22
5.22
5.22


Record : 2-2
Profit: -$1.75

I really do like the idea of this JM....and I do like the idea of your UNDER Totals idea....PLEASE keep me updated on the UNDER totals system as I think it could definitely work...the only thing I worry about with the totals system and with the Top 6 Division system is how big the bets can get...what was the largest % bet you would have had to make on the Phillies in your backtesting?? I am assuming you would want to start with a max of .5% of your bankroll on each line....thanks JM for all your insight...

[hagball52]

JM says in his email That Dallas is the team to bet on??

You're right. He f*cked up. Let's all send him a nasty email and he'll probably re-post it. The play is definitely on MIA. Thanks for catching that. I've been in a hurry this morning trying to get everything updated.

[h00dini]

JM MLB System

2011 Official season series record 8-0 (v1)
(A) 5-3
(B) 2-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 1-0 (1 series pending)
Unofficial series 6-0
V3
(6/04/2011) Kansas City (.483) v Minnesota (.452) M/L (B) Loss

Next V3 Play
(6/05/2011) Kansas City (.479) v Minnesota (.455) M/L (C)

Upcoming plays
(6/06/2011) Baltimore v Oakland
(6/07/2011) NY Yankees v Boston
(6/09/2011) Detroit v Seattle

JM NBA Official Play

(6/05/2011) Miami @ Dallas (A)

Notes: I posted the link a little bit ago about the NBA play. I presume all of you know the rules but if you don't you are supposed to buy 3 points on the team you are betting on if they are the underdog or favored up to 3 pts. At this time MIA is a 2.5 pt. dog so you should buy them up to 5.5 pts. Also on the MLB V3 play the rpi has dropped a little and has gone outside the recommended level by .001. I think KAN should get the win today but if they don't I'll mark it as a loss on the record no matter what Morrison does.

Great job posting!!

[hagball52]

Thank you very much, that was very generous of both of you. How did you do that? Thought we could only give 2.

Yeah I don't know either. I just hit 36 and it went through. Maybe they changed the rules. Enjoy.

[hagball52]

JM MLB System

2011 Official season series record 8-0 (v1)
(A) 5-3
(B) 2-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 1-0 (1 series pending)
Unofficial series 6-0
V3
(6/04/2011) Kansas City (.483) v Minnesota (.452) M/L (B) Loss

Next V3 Play
(6/05/2011) Kansas City (.479) v Minnesota (.455) M/L (C)

Upcoming plays
(6/06/2011) Baltimore v Oakland
(6/07/2011) NY Yankees v Boston
(6/09/2011) Detroit v Seattle

JM NBA Official Play

(6/05/2011) Miami @ Dallas (A)

Notes: I posted the link a little bit ago about the NBA play. I presume all of you know the rules but if you don't you are supposed to buy 3 points on the team you are betting on if they are the underdog or favored up to 3 pts. At this time MIA is a 2.5 pt. dog so you should buy them up to 5.5 pts. Also on the MLB V3 play the rpi has dropped a little and has gone outside the recommended level by .001. I think KAN should get the win today but if they don't I'll mark it as a loss on the record no matter what Morrison does.

P.S. In all my haste this morning I failed to mention there are 6 possible sweeps today. Will update in the morning. And thanks h00dini.

[jolmscheid]

Hey guys...I have heard from some that you can play the Morrison system and the anti / opposite of Morrison at the same time on their own seperate 3-Line labbys and profit from both of them...I just can't get my head around being able to profit on both when you are always playing both sides of each game...anyone care to lend some insight?

[J.M. Disciple]

I really do like the idea of this JM....and I do like the idea of your UNDER Totals idea....PLEASE keep me updated on the UNDER totals system as I think it could definitely work...the only thing I worry about with the totals system and with the Top 6 Division system is how big the bets can get...what was the largest % bet you would have had to make on the Phillies in your backtesting?? I am assuming you would want to start with a max of .5% of your bankroll on each line....thanks JM for all your insight...

I believe i posted that i was stopping my under system, even though it is currently showing almost a 5 unit profit so far this month. Reason being is not because i think it will fail long run, but because of my bankroll. I talked about how many systems I am running and if a few of the systems lose 3 or 4 games each, then im going to be in trouble, so i dropped the under system for now. I have a friend following all the unders and overs using labby though, so maybe he will post his results or weekly updates... We shall see.


For those of you following my labby system with Division leaders, I think i've been doing the labby slightly wrong. Even though i am very confident in my system and some find it arrogant or annoying, i apologize for that, but i'm always looking for feed back on how to improve it and i keep an open mind to other ideas of how to best run the labby.

With 4 losses in a row running 1 # per line with 4 labby lines

Day 1:
5
5
5
5


day 2
5 5
5 5
5 5
5 5


day 3
5 5 10
5 5 10
5 5 10
5 5 10


day 4
5 5 10 15
5 5 10 15
5 5 10 15
5 5 10 15


Ending lines
5 5 10 15 20
5 5 10 15 20
5 5 10 15 20
5 5 10 15 20


*note this does not take into account juice of the sports sites.


Other way of doing this labby is starting with 2 #s per line. Instead of doing 1 full unit at the beginning of the line, split it into two ½ units.

Day 1
2.5 2.5
2.5 2.5
2.5 2.5
2.5 2.5


day 2
2.5 2.5 5
2.5 2.5 5
2.5 2.5 5
2.5 2.5 5

day 3
2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50
2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50
2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50
2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50


Day 4
2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 /10


Ending lines
2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 /10 / 12.5

Basically what this shows is starting with 2#s on your line will basically cut your variance in half!
With certain variations of wins and losses, it may take 1 extra game to clear your line, but I think that is well worth cutting your variance in half. Welcome to do your labby however you want, but this is how I will be doing it after today.

[J.M. Disciple]

Hey guys...I have heard from some that you can play the Morrison system and the anti / opposite of Morrison at the same time on their own seperate 3-Line labbys and profit from both of them...I just can't get my head around being able to profit on both when you are always playing both sides of each game...anyone care to lend some insight?

I am not sure if you are talking about NBA or MLB. The labby will work for just about anything as i have stated many times.

On day 1 however you will be down money thats a guarantee. By end of the road trip though it should show a profit.

I think someone tested NBA on this with a chase method and they called it like home stand or something. I believe the chase actually failed, but i could be wrong.

labby will def work though. Just have to think of it as multiple days instead of just 1 day.

[JassieJames]

Great work so far with all the research and dedication. Keep it up!

[jolmscheid]

I like that idea JM...the juice is what scares me on the highly favored teams...the bets could get very high after a 3, 4, 5 game losing streak...may be worth playing the -1 RL....and I would appreciate an update on your Totals system if and when your friend backtests it! Go get 'em JM..

[J.M. Disciple]

Also for those of you who are not familiar with the JM NBA system. Wilba was kind enough to provide some interesting stats during the regular season to help out with this system. His research was based on a 10 year back test.

A bets win 61% of the time.
B bets win around 70% of the time
C bets win around 82% of the time.

*Note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with A bets winning 61% of the time after buying 3pts at -170 odds minimum for the nBA you will be losing money long run on your A bets. So how do you counter this?

Basically you will have less plays, but if you bet to win 3 units on B and cover your losses + show a 3 unit profit on C wagers, then you will actually be risking the same amount and profit more even though you have less plays.

[ok15533]

John Morrison's Sports Betting Champ System Official System Pick(s)

6/5 Dallas Mavericks [A] (NBA)
Miami Heat
6/6 Baltimore Orioles [A] (MLB)
Oakland Athletics
6/7 New York Yankees [A] (MLB)
Boston Red Sox

Unofficial System Pick(s) [doesn't pass the RPI filter]

None

[imotiv8]

A special thanks to Wallco, Hagball, JMD, Hoodini, Honeyeater, and Dlunc3. Wallco, you have been consistent in your word and in your plays. People usually run in the face of criticism, you have not and I appreciate that. Hagball, you keep us updated and well informed. You make things very easy for everyone on the thread, thank you. JMD, just like in the NBA thread you are always positive and you summarize all of the plays for us. I see you have even created your own system, good job. Hoodini, wow what a turn around. You have shown us that it is not fair to judge a person by a few posts. I appreciate you adding your system to the thread along with all your positive contributions. Honeyeater, you have been here from the beginning posting rules and helping new people that come to the thread. Dlunc3, you stay positive no matter what and that says a lot about your character. There are a few more of you I missed, you know who you are. Youre doing a great job.

Make money in your respective businesses, use 10% - 20% of that money to fund your sports investing, and you will have more money than you know what to do with.

The key of course is money management in your sports investing, I am never afraid to walk away from a potential "sure win" bet. Use your intuition. There will always be more winners.

''The house doesn't beat the player. It just gives him the opportunity to beat himself.'' ~Nick Dandalos

[dbartinbwgc]

Jm wnba

someone asked for the JMs WnBA

[J.M. Disciple]

does anyone have this wnba system jm talks about?

If im not mistake, i heard people say it is a losing system. You could probably buy it and fade it for a profit though.

same with his "champ selection plays." I think there was actually a thread on this in the past. I dont know is stats, but if you scroll back lots of pages someone posted the results where they stated

It losses like the past 6 months except for 1, so theoretically you could just fade his systems and show a profit. idk what your Roi would be though.

[jolmscheid]

Also for those of you who are not familiar with the JM NBA system. Wilba was kind enough to provide some interesting stats during the regular season to help out with this system. His research was based on a 10 year back test.

A bets win 61% of the time.
B bets win around 70% of the time
C bets win around 82% of the time.

*Note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with A bets winning 61% of the time after buying 3pts at -170 odds minimum for the nBA you will be losing money long run on your A bets. So how do you counter this?

Basically you will have less plays, but if you bet to win 3 units on B and cover your losses + show a 3 unit profit on C wagers, then you will actually be risking the same amount and profit more even though you have less plays.

How about NOT buying the 3 points? I would think this may change then huh?

[J.M. Disciple]

A special thanks to Wallco, Hagball, JMD, Hoodini, Honeyeater, and Dlunc3. Wallco, you have been consistent in your word and in your plays. People usually run in the face of criticism, you have not and I appreciate that. Hagball, you keep us updated and well informed. You make things very easy for everyone on the thread, thank you. JMD, just like in the NBA thread you are always positive and you summarize all of the plays for us. I see you have even created your own system, good job. Hoodini, wow what a turn around. You have shown us that it is not fair to judge a person by a few posts. I appreciate you adding your system to the thread along with all your positive contributions. Honeyeater, you have been here from the beginning posting rules and helping new people that come to the thread. Dlunc3, you stay positive no matter what and that says a lot about your character. There are a few more of you I missed, you know who you are. Youre doing a great job.

Make money in your respective businesses, use 10% - 20% of that money to fund your sports investing, and you will have more money than you know what to do with.

The key of course is money management in your sports investing, I am never afraid to walk away from a potential "sure win" bet. Use your intuition. There will always be more winners.

''The house doesn't beat the player. It just gives him the opportunity to beat himself.'' ~Nick Dandalos

i could say the same about all these guys as well. 2pts!


The ones that are positive and continue to contribute, understand its not a drag race, but a turtle race. Gotta be in it for the long hall.

[J.M. Disciple]

How about NOT buying the 3 points? I would think this may change then huh?

the win % was based on BUYING 3PTS!

With out buying 3pts its roughly 52%.

[J.M. Disciple]

JM MLB System

2011 Official season series record 8-0 (v1)
(A) 5-3
(B) 2-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 1-0 (1 series pending)
Unofficial series 6-0
V3
(6/04/2011) Kansas City (.483) v Minnesota (.452) M/L (B) Loss

Next V3 Play
(6/05/2011) Kansas City (.479) v Minnesota (.455) M/L (C)

Upcoming plays
(6/06/2011) Baltimore v Oakland
(6/07/2011) NY Yankees v Boston
(6/09/2011) Detroit v Seattle

JM NBA Official Play

(6/05/2011) Miami @ Dallas (A)

Notes: I posted the link a little bit ago about the NBA play. I presume all of you know the rules but if you don't you are supposed to buy 3 points on the team you are betting on if they are the underdog or favored up to 3 pts. At this time MIA is a 2.5 pt. dog so you should buy them up to 5.5 pts. Also on the MLB V3 play the rpi has dropped a little and has gone outside the recommended level by .001. I think KAN should get the win today but if they don't I'll mark it as a loss on the record no matter what Morrison does.

im slightly confused as usual lol. ... I had KC down as "D" bet even though im doing labby.

Lost on 6/2, 6/3, 6/4, then today is 6/5

i know it said pre V3 bet or something in the past... was i not suppose to bet on that game or was i suppose to be flat betting that one?

[Andy3568]

If you have been playing the current Version 3 series, Minnesota Twins @ Kansas City Royals, you have just lost an [A] and a [B] bet and have a [C] bet coming up on the Royals. However, here's something to think about:

The RPI difference between the two teams has moved to within 0.025. Now, both of JM's Version 1 and Version 3 systems say to check the RPI at the beginning of the series and play it through. However, JM has also ignored losses based on the fact that the RPI moved out of range. He did this last season for a Version 1 series where he sent out an email after a [C] loss saying that after the [A] loss, the RPI difference between the two teams was greater than 0.015 and therefore we should have stopped after the [A] loss.

Something to think about if you're having doubts about betting the Royals today.

[alexy]

WALLCO: Detroit will pay very well, very very well. Gl & thanks

[dogs1972]

JESUS FREAKING CHRIST this thread has become a fuking circus. 17 pages of wannabes posting freaking experimental systems. Post after post of bullshit. Track your own GD systems, why do you have to clog up this thread? Wallco and Hagball have been here, other than that you should fuk off and start your own thread. Sick of all this bull shit labby lines and crap.

[hagball52]

im slightly confused as usual lol. ... I had KC down as "D" bet even though im doing labby.

Lost on 6/2, 6/3, 6/4, then today is 6/5

i know it said pre V3 bet or something in the past... was i not suppose to bet on that game or was i suppose to be flat betting that one?

Some people jumped the gun and went to the V3 bet at the beginning of the series instead of playing the unofficial (A) bet believing that it would lose. It won. So the second game in that series would shift to a V3 (A) bet. The only way there would have been a (D) bet is if KAN had lost the first 3 games and you were playing it out.

[hagball52]

If you have been playing the current Version 3 series, Minnesota Twins @ Kansas City Royals, you have just lost an [A] and a [b] bet and have a [C] bet coming up on the Royals. However, here's something to think about:

The RPI difference between the two teams has moved to within 0.025. Now, both of JM's Version 1 and Version 3 systems say to check the RPI at the beginning of the series and play it through. However, JM has also ignored losses based on the fact that the RPI moved out of range. He did this last season for a Version 1 series where he sent out an email after a [C] loss saying that after the [A] loss, the RPI difference between the two teams was greater than 0.015 and therefore we should have stopped after the [A] loss.

Something to think about if you're having doubts about betting the Royals today.

I believe the rip difference is .024 which would disqualify it by .001 of a point. KAN is .479 and MIN is .455. I didn't purchase his V3 so I don't get any emails concerning it. If someone else does please post. The series started well within the guidelines of the rpi so we will score it out as a play.

[J.M. Disciple]

JESUS FREAKING CHRIST this thread has become a fuking circus. 17 pages of wannabes posting freaking experimental systems. Post after post of bullshit. Track your own GD systems, why do you have to clog up this thread? Wallco and Hagball have been here, other than that you should fuk off and start your own thread. Sick of all this bull shit labby lines and crap.

I usually ignore people like yourself because all you do is hate on people for trying to make money and do not contribute anything to the thread yourself. You just complain when a system loses and dont say anything other wise.

Just because you do not want to make extra money with other systems, you should not complain about the systems being in this thread. If you have a reading problem, then skip all the post.

You and everyone else that complains about the thread being clogged and are only here to play Wallco's or JM plays this is what you do.

Book mark a page that has Hagball and Wallco on it. Once you have it booked marked go to that page every morning and click "view post" under their name. That way you only see the plays and you wont see all my post or any other topics on this forum that you see as "clutter."

Where you see clutter i see opportunity.

Lets take a vote on this and see who is more respected in this thread... You or me???

You talk about cluttering the thread, but when you come in here and complain; what does that do to help the thread? That is clutter in itself, so I suggest that you follow your own advice and "Fuk Off."

have a nice day

[G's pks]

Hey guys...I have heard from some that you can play the Morrison system and the anti / opposite of Morrison at the same time on their own seperate 3-Line labbys and profit from both of them...I just can't get my head around being able to profit on both when you are always playing both sides of each game...anyone care to lend some insight?

Just wanted to mention to you that JM Disciple might be the person to help you with your labby line questions...maybe shoot him a pm...

Also JM...I might be contacting you down the road myself... I am working on an nba system soon and would like a little input...

Thanks ...

[J.M. Disciple]

For everyone who doesn't want to read all the thread.. Ill post every play right here... Just for today though and you can skip all the "clutter" as people call it in the thread.

Wallco: Detroit ML [C]
Wallco: Detroit ML [C]
JM: KC ML [C]
Crusher: FLA ML [A]
Hoodini: Phi ML [B]
Hoodini: CLE +1.5 [A]
$$$PRINTING SYstem: NYY, STL, ARI, and Phi (Labby system)

Best of Luck to everyone today.
--JMD

[J.M. Disciple]

Just wanted to mention to you that JM Disciple might be the person to help you with your labby line questions...maybe shoot him a pm...

Also JM...I might be contacting you down the road myself... I am working on an nba system soon and would like a little input...

Thanks ...

I would be glad to help... Anything that allows me to put a little extra Dough in the bank via a system, im more then glad to help out.

The more systems we have the better. As long as all of them don't lose D bets on the same day lol. Not too much of a problem with a labby though.

Just shoot me a PM and ill probably start back testing it. We got a ways to go before NBA starts again though. I think its like a 4 month break or something.

[thelimit0310]

JMD, congrats on 1000 posts!!! Thanks for all your contributions!

[thelimit0310]

Hey guys...I have heard from some that you can play the Morrison system and the anti / opposite of Morrison at the same time on their own seperate 3-Line labbys and profit from both of them...I just can't get my head around being able to profit on both when you are always playing both sides of each game...anyone care to lend some insight?

You absolutely can and the system is called "Anti-JM" and it's for the NBA. You HAVE to run a labby with both JM and Anti-JM for it to be successful. Basically the think tank behind it is even though Morrisons series usually win, they go to different levels ie sometimes the A bets lose and the B bets win. So in that example, If you were playing both, then you would have won the A bet for Anti-JM, and then won the B bet for regular JM. You run each system on separate labbys.

Essentially on every NBA "A" bet you bet on both the JM team and the opposing team, which ever one doesn't win, you keep playing as a normal series. LABBY this system or it won't work.

As for the labby itself I would use 2 lines not 3. Playing A and C on 1 line and B on its own line. But that's preference, it's a more aggressive approach which clears faster though could make bets much more expensive than initially if a bad streak hits. There are many ways to tone down your bets however if that happens. I recently had to do it with Wallco's system, just adding 2 numbers to the end of both the lines and took some cheddar off the lines to create those numbers. Easy as pie.

[G's pks]

JM some are taking a second look at your posts with interest...I agree about the clutter...this started as a JM thread...which is the only consistent system here...a few added their own...and of course the fake touts came in with well here are this or that systems picks...which when posted were even worse...

Crusher I have heard of...hits well as long as you have the patience...one of his systems was poor...just cannot think which one it was right now...(it was not baseball)....

For me a successful system stops at "C" as the risk and level of games going to "C" or "D" indicate a failed system from my backtesting...which is often substanial... I look for systems that end by an "A" or "B" win with enough regularity to be on the plus side... I have scrapped more systems constantly running to c/d than you could imagine...

GL and also dbartinbwgc is someone who knows a little about systems.. see he dropped you guys JM WNBA...

The help I may be looking for will be based more on the math end...based on the systems ending by the "b" game in the majority...thanks...may contact you down the road...

I had someone run all the math for me last year and any system that has 6-10 losses before I can get at least 100 wins I scrap... Just cannot remember his screen name...if i remember it will also look him up...


Also do not let the idiotic haters bother you... they lose for a reason...they are not willing to learn...well have a good one...do not want to clog up the thread...


Wish it was a little easier to see the jm picks/posts...I do enjoy watching...even though last year was a rough year for him...not sure what is being advertised...but it was not a good year for the jm system...

[mantorras77]

If im not mistake, i heard people say it is a losing system. You could probably buy it and fade it for a profit though.

same with his "champ selection plays." I think there was actually a thread on this in the past. I dont know is stats, but if you scroll back lots of pages someone posted the results where they stated

It losses like the past 6 months except for 1, so theoretically you could just fade his systems and show a profit. idk what your Roi would be though.

according to actual system (thanks to dbartinbwgc on post# 4885)...2010 JM WNBA System went 12-1 for a net of +5.5 UNITS ! Now JM claims he's only lost 2x in the last 12 WNBA seasons...I will back track it to verify his claims.

Take the +5.5 UNITS with a grain of salt though as I didn't take into account what the lines would be when you have to buy 3pts on each play. It could have easily been a break even or small loss year.

[thelimit0310]

according to actual system (thanks to dbartinbwgc on post# 4885)...2010 JM WNBA System went 12-1 for a net of +5.5 UNITS ! Now JM claims he's only lost 2x in the last 12 WNBA seasons...I will back track it to verify his claims.

Take the +5.5 UNITS with a grain of salt though as I didn't take into account what the lines would be when you have to buy 3pts on each play. It could have easily been a break even or small loss year.

His system is a failure. It's already been tested elsewhere. Though you don't have to take my word for it!