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  • dreamjob
    SBR MVP
    • 05-21-09
    • 1963

    #2626
    Alright lets go phillies!
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    • floridagolfer
      SBR MVP
      • 12-19-08
      • 2757

      #2627
      Originally posted by allenc85
      FG - how many units are yall up??

      I'm only playing a four-game chase this year, so my record has two losses. I also did not play during the first two weeks of the season (and won't play the final two or three weeks). But to answer your question, I'm currently about +45 units. (That total reflects a few instances where I didn't have enough guts to play the full amount on a few Game Ds.)
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      • DustyDiamond
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-19-09
        • 772

        #2628
        How far into Sept is the system suppose to go?
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        • gamblingisfun
          SBR Sharp
          • 08-14-10
          • 401

          #2629
          I really like this system and I've read every post in this thread. I looked up data for MLB teams since 2004 on the sdql website. I filtered the teams that were the highest favorite of each day. I ended up finding that there was a few streaks of rl losses that were 6 losses long. I haven't researched this whole year yet, but in the 2009 year I found 2 6 game streaks and one 7 game near the end of the season. I read that bettorbob backtested this for ten years and it either didn't lose or it only lost once I cant remember. But if the sdql lines are right over the years, then it reached 6 games several times over the years. This system is great, I just want to know why my results are different than the original backtesters. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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          • mminkovski
            SBR MVP
            • 06-22-07
            • 1077

            #2630
            Phillies rulzzzzz

            We can take 1 loss per season. I personally chase 7 games max as backtesting never showed longer streak.
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            • gamblingisfun
              SBR Sharp
              • 08-14-10
              • 401

              #2631
              I found a 9 game loss on may 1-9, 2008 on the highest favorite of the day. Some of those faves weren't super high, -150,-165, -170, but still the system is go with the biggest fave of the day. The 3 I found in 2009 were a 6 game from 6/10-6/15, another 6 from 8/16-8/21, and a 7 game from 9/20-9/26. Maybe the lines on the sdql site aren't the same ones that were backtested with. At a point in all those streaks the difference between the top 2 of the day was 10 cents or less, and in one case there was a tie, so the tiebreaker was the total. The higher total game lost while the lower total game would have won.
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              • mminkovski
                SBR MVP
                • 06-22-07
                • 1077

                #2632
                gamblingsfun, did put a filter for at least 5 games per day?
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                • slapshot
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-27-07
                  • 1194

                  #2633
                  six games on the menu today...........lad is on top of the chart........favorite by a small margin.....+ money on rl
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                  • slapshot
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-27-07
                    • 1194

                    #2634
                    Originally posted by gamblingisfun
                    I found a 9 game loss on may 1-9, 2008 on the highest favorite of the day. Some of those faves weren't super high, -150,-165, -170, but still the system is go with the biggest fave of the day. The 3 I found in 2009 were a 6 game from 6/10-6/15, another 6 from 8/16-8/21, and a 7 game from 9/20-9/26. Maybe the lines on the sdql site aren't the same ones that were backtested with. At a point in all those streaks the difference between the top 2 of the day was 10 cents or less, and in one case there was a tie, so the tiebreaker was the total. The higher total game lost while the lower total game would have won.
                    i have the exact same results as you for 2009, same dates same number of losses.

                    for 2008 begining of may i don't have 9 losses in a row........arizona was the biggest fav on opening lines on may 3rd and they won that day vs mets.

                    from may 1st to may 9th 2008 the teams we bet on had
                    five 1 run wins
                    one 5 runs win
                    three straight up losses

                    after that cold streak the system racked up a four game winning streak.

                    also the 2 x six games and the seven games losing streak in 2009 had some 1 run wins.

                    for 2009, my data is from playing the system.......for the 2008 data i researched the sbr website.

                    conclusion might be to play -1 instead for -1.5...........eat juice, take some pushes but to avoid nasty streaks.

                    after all these systems are only successful if you can steer clear of losses and your unit size/bankroll allows you go after a 'w' up to 6 times...then you are home safe
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                    • floridagolfer
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-19-08
                      • 2757

                      #2635
                      Originally posted by gamblingisfun
                      I found a 9 game loss on may 1-9, 2008 on the highest favorite of the day. Some of those faves weren't super high, -150,-165, -170, but still the system is go with the biggest fave of the day. The 3 I found in 2009 were a 6 game from 6/10-6/15, another 6 from 8/16-8/21, and a 7 game from 9/20-9/26. Maybe the lines on the sdql site aren't the same ones that were backtested with. At a point in all those streaks the difference between the top 2 of the day was 10 cents or less, and in one case there was a tie, so the tiebreaker was the total. The higher total game lost while the lower total game would have won.

                      For whatever reason, I don't have that six-game run last August; I have SF winning on Aug. 18 as a Game B winner. But I suspect some databases are slightly different because people go to different sources for their odds.
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                      • dreamjob
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-21-09
                        • 1963

                        #2636
                        Alright dodgers lets keep it going!
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                        • gamblingisfun
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 08-14-10
                          • 401

                          #2637
                          Slapshot: my data has the Indians being favored over the royals at -220 for 5/3/08 and they lost 4-2.

                          Floridagolfer: my data has the rays over the orioles that day at -250 and they won 5-4 only by a run. And it was the C bet in the series.

                          I guess it all might come down to the differences in odds. Many times there were only minimal differences in the top two in a day and one won and one didn't. I should just hope to avoid one of those killstreaks.
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                          • mminkovski
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-22-07
                            • 1077

                            #2638
                            We agreed to use covers.com opening lines. Is that what you use for your sql queries?
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                            • gamblingisfun
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 08-14-10
                              • 401

                              #2639
                              I don't know where sdql gets their lines from. I don't even know if their lines are opening or closing. I have questions out on other sites to people who know more than I do about that site.
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                              • gamblingisfun
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-14-10
                                • 401

                                #2640
                                I think that some of the lines may be closing lines, however they say that all their lines are entered in by hand by their guy in Vegas, and the odds entered are the lines that the majority of people can get, so I suppose there is a margin of error in the data that I have.
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                                • dreamjob
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-21-09
                                  • 1963

                                  #2641
                                  For Friday its close between the reds and phillies.
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                                  • mminkovski
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-22-07
                                    • 1077

                                    #2642
                                    Covers has Cincinnati at -245 ML and -120 RL
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                                    • floridagolfer
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-19-08
                                      • 2757

                                      #2643
                                      Originally posted by mminkovski
                                      Covers has Cincinnati at -245 ML and -120 RL

                                      Agreed. My lines have Philly at -235 and Cinci at -240.
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                                      • Puda
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-26-10
                                        • 1798

                                        #2644
                                        Twins
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                                        • floridagolfer
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-19-08
                                          • 2757

                                          #2645
                                          Originally posted by Puda
                                          Twins
                                          What about them?
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                                          • slapshot
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-27-07
                                            • 1194

                                            #2646
                                            twins aren't even close...cincy is the play tonight
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                                            • Puda
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-26-10
                                              • 1798

                                              #2647
                                              Originally posted by slapshot
                                              twins aren't even close...cincy is the play tonight
                                              twins are a lock , carmona suks against them.
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                                              • floridagolfer
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-19-08
                                                • 2757

                                                #2648
                                                Originally posted by Puda
                                                twins are a lock , carmona suks against them.
                                                Most teams that get shut out don't win.

                                                And I'm ready for the season to end.
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                                                • mminkovski
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-22-07
                                                  • 1077

                                                  #2649
                                                  It was close but we lost. C bet on Saturday, most likely Rockies with Jimenez
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                                                  • dreamjob
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-21-09
                                                    • 1963

                                                    #2650
                                                    Like the rockies at home. Lets go Ubaldo!
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                                                    • do5000
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 06-06-08
                                                      • 853

                                                      #2651
                                                      Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                                      Most teams that get shut out don't win.

                                                      And I'm ready for the season to end.
                                                      time to move on
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                                                      • mminkovski
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-22-07
                                                        • 1077

                                                        #2652
                                                        Sunday play: Cincinnati Reds vs Pittsburgh Pirates
                                                        ML: -265
                                                        RL: -120
                                                        It's a D bet.
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                                                        • floridagolfer
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-19-08
                                                          • 2757

                                                          #2653
                                                          Originally posted by do5000
                                                          time to move on
                                                          Yeah, I might call it a season after today's game, or substantially reduce my per-series stake.
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                                                          • mentorbh
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 08-27-10
                                                            • 479

                                                            #2654
                                                            I like the Yankees(NewYork) Moseley +145 for today.

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                                                            • teecee
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-18-09
                                                              • 6298

                                                              #2655
                                                              Originally posted by mentorbh
                                                              I like the Yankees(NewYork) Moseley +145 for today.

                                                              that's cool, but how does this play have anything to do with the system being discussed in this thread?
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                                                              • dreamjob
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-21-09
                                                                • 1963

                                                                #2656
                                                                Come on reds lets end this BS!
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                                                                • mminkovski
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-22-07
                                                                  • 1077

                                                                  #2657
                                                                  Monday biggest favorite is split between Cardinals and Braves. Let's wait to see more lines for Cards game
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                                                                  • dreamjob
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-21-09
                                                                    • 1963

                                                                    #2658
                                                                    Geez onto an E bet. My next win I will shut it down for the season just too hectic.
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                                                                    • mminkovski
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-22-07
                                                                      • 1077

                                                                      #2659
                                                                      Actually as per covers.com opening lines Boston Red Sox are ML -185 and is highest so far
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                                                                      • mminkovski
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 06-22-07
                                                                        • 1077

                                                                        #2660
                                                                        Tuesday play: St.Louis Cardinals
                                                                        ML: -230
                                                                        RL: +100
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