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  • TRE1968
    SBR Sharp
    • 08-09-09
    • 425

    #2801
    maybe first 5 might work..first 5 innings
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    • big limpin
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-26-11
      • 208

      #2802
      Originally posted by dlunc3
      Do you by any chance have the record from last year? Were there any losses? And if you only bet to win .001% of your unit, wouldnt that be only 10 cents if your unit size was $100?

      There were 3 system losses last year. Worst year I have had was 2008 with 5 system losses... was still a profitable year.

      I use .001 of my total roll. This year my unit for the system is $13.
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      • do5000
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 06-06-08
        • 853

        #2803
        Originally posted by big limpin
        There were 3 system losses last year. Worst year I have had was 2008 with 5 system losses... was still a profitable year.

        I use .001 of my total roll. This year my unit for the system is $13.
        its still very interesting. im sure more suggestions will come up on how to make it profitable and safe.
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        • dlunc3
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-31-09
          • 9129

          #2804
          Originally posted by big limpin
          There were 3 system losses last year. Worst year I have had was 2008 with 5 system losses... was still a profitable year.

          I use .001 of my total roll. This year my unit for the system is $13.
          Oh ok thanks for the response.. I guess either my math is bad, or you have a huge roll.. bc if you are betting to win $13 per unit, wouldn't that make your roll $130k? Since $13 is .001% of 130k? Wish i was you!
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          • big limpin
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-26-11
            • 208

            #2805
            Originally posted by dlunc3
            Oh ok thanks for the response.. I guess either my math is bad, or you have a huge roll.. bc if you are betting to win $13 per unit, wouldn't that make your roll $130k? Since $13 is .001% of 130k? Wish i was you!
            13,000 actually. A tenth of 1% of 13,000 is 13.
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            • ebbearsfb1
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-07-08
              • 18815

              #2806
              A new thread should be created for the shut out system
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              • slapshot
                SBR MVP
                • 10-27-07
                • 1194

                #2807
                Originally posted by dlunc3
                A few quick things...

                I tracked this system for a while last year, and noticed a few key issues that I think should be looked at... A quick series that comes to mind is the Tex/Balt series in July.. Tex was the biggest favorite for 4 straight days.. if you were to bet the -1rl on the biggest favorite each day, you would have lost over 80 units just on this series. If you were to go on and make the 5th bet, you would have had to risk over 200 units..

                What i take from this is...

                #1: Apply some type of filter to not bet the same team more then once... this way one slumping team cannot completely crush your bankroll.

                #2: Use some type of labby system (as slapshot spoke of), or bet to win .25% or less of your bank roll to ensure that you have plenty of money to make all 5 bets..


                Slapshot--- a few questions you may know the answer to..

                Do you know how the history of this system may look with this filter (not playing the same team more then once in a single series) applied?

                How have you been determining what team to bet when both teams have the same line? Say both teams are -250 for the day?

                Thanks and best of luck..
                are you talking about this series:
                july
                8 tex 0
                9 tex 0
                10 tb 1
                11 tex 0
                0 equals loss......1 is a win

                as you can see....i had tampa to win the 10th of july breaking up the texas skid.
                but i do think you're bringing up an interesting idea...not reusing teams during one series.

                it would be a fairly large task to back test that i don't have the time for at the moment.

                the tie breaker for games with favorites at the same line i picked the game with the highest total for the research.

                hope this answers your questions.
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                • dlunc3
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-31-09
                  • 9129

                  #2808
                  Originally posted by big limpin
                  13,000 actually. A tenth of 1% of 13,000 is 13.
                  Ohhh ok... so you meant to say .01% of a unit...not .001 correct? pretty big difference..thanks for the help.
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                  • shinnman
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 02-25-11
                    • 282

                    #2809
                    Originally posted by dlunc3
                    Ohhh ok... so you meant to say .01% of a unit...not .001 correct? pretty big difference..thanks for the help.

                    dude just stop .001 of 13000 is 13, move on
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                    • dlunc3
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-31-09
                      • 9129

                      #2810
                      Originally posted by shinnman
                      dude just stop .001 of 13000 is 13, move on
                      I apologize, but some of us do not just bet with pennies or sbr points, and rely on our sports betting winnings to eat and live... when I see numbers as good as systems like this can produce, I take interest in them and study them before putting the system in to practice. I am very thankful for Big Limpin's insight... and I just like to make sure all my ducks are in a row before risking 10s of thousands of my dollars... that extra zero can make a huge difference if you arent playing for pennies like obviously you are..

                      Maybe my math is wrong here, but the way i see it:

                      1% of $13,000 would be $130
                      .1 % would be $13
                      .01% would be $1.30
                      .001% would be .13 cents (which is his recommended bet amount)

                      So if he were to be betting to win $13 per bet, that would be to win .1% of his roll.. not .01 or even .001... pretty huge difference wouldnt you say? Again, I am thankful for his input and I cant wait to put his info to use... but before I do, I just wanna make sure everything is in order... My math may be wrong, but that is how I see it... if I am wrong, thank you for correcting me..but id rather be wrong at this point in the season then down 50k in august bc of a simple mistake like an extra 0 here and there...

                      enjoy your penny slots and your sbr point bets..
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                      • shinnman
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 02-25-11
                        • 282

                        #2811
                        Originally posted by dlunc3
                        I apologize, but some of us do not just bet with pennies or sbr points, and rely on our sports betting winnings to eat and live... when I see numbers as good as systems like this can produce, I take interest in them and study them before putting the system in to practice. I am very thankful for Big Limpin's insight... and I just like to make sure all my ducks are in a row before risking 10s of thousands of my dollars... that extra zero can make a huge difference if you arent playing for pennies like obviously you are..

                        Maybe my math is wrong here, but the way i see it:

                        1% of $13,000 would be $130
                        .1 % would be $13
                        .01% would be $1.30
                        .001% would be .13 cents (which is his recommended bet amount)

                        So if he were to be betting to win $13 per bet, that would be to win .1% of his roll.. not .01 or even .001... pretty huge difference wouldnt you say? Again, I am thankful for his input and I cant wait to put his info to use... but before I do, I just wanna make sure everything is in order... My math may be wrong, but that is how I see it... if I am wrong, thank you for correcting me..but id rather be wrong at this point in the season then down 50k in august bc of a simple mistake like an extra 0 here and there...

                        enjoy your penny slots and your sbr point bets..
                        wow dude i was just giving you a hard time, your mistake is putting a % where it wasnt , limpin said he will be playing .001 of 13000 not .001% which is obviously different. we are both here for the same reason, to make money, not sure why my commenting on your post makes me an invalid. i take sports betting very seriously as i see you do as well, gl in all your bets
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                        • dlunc3
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-31-09
                          • 9129

                          #2812
                          Big limpins exact quote was: "I would still stick with the .0010% fellas... it sounds super anal but I think this system should still be used for FUN."

                          So, again just trying to clarify before putting big money at risk.. since he had said .0010 %... no need to step in and tell someone to stop inquiring with important questions regarding a system... that is the point of these forums.. help each other other to try to make money and beat the books.. not telling each other to stop posting esp. with a % as crucial as the one being talked about.. anyway... thanks again big limpin for the system... now that everything should be in the clear, best of luck to us all this season!
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                          • DustyDiamond
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 12-19-09
                            • 772

                            #2813
                            Originally posted by dlunc3
                            A few quick things...

                            I tracked this system for a while last year, and noticed a few key issues that I think should be looked at... A quick series that comes to mind is the Tex/Balt series in July.. Tex was the biggest favorite for 4 straight days.. if you were to bet the -1rl on the biggest favorite each day, you would have lost over 80 units just on this series. If you were to go on and make the 5th bet, you would have had to risk over 200 units..

                            What i take from this is...

                            #1: Apply some type of filter to not bet the same team more then once... this way one slumping team cannot completely crush your bankroll.

                            #2: Use some type of labby system (as slapshot spoke of), or bet to win .25% or less of your bank roll to ensure that you have plenty of money to make all 5 bets..


                            Slapshot--- a few questions you may know the answer to..

                            Do you know how the history of this system may look with this filter (not playing the same team more then once in a single series) applied?

                            How have you been determining what team to bet when both teams have the same line? Say both teams are -250 for the day?

                            Thanks and best of luck..
                            People who bet on Texas and lost did NOT follow the system. Texas was NOT the favorite on the opening lines. Texas got pulled off the board that day and odds reposted because of Lee. If you stuck with the system and only looked at opening lines than this would not of been a loss for some people
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                            • DustyDiamond
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 12-19-09
                              • 772

                              #2814
                              Originally posted by big limpin
                              Hi Dusty,

                              Were you back testing the "Bet For" or "Bet Against"?? Last season I brought home 167 units running the "Bet Against" system.

                              One filter that I do add is:

                              If a team has suffered a shut and the next day plays against another team you are already working on, allow your first team to finished the 6 game chase / or win before you begin chasing the other team.

                              I think that is important as you never want to guarantee a loss for any of the teams you are chasing. If you bet both sides you are obviously guaranteeing a B bet for one team.

                              Hope this helps! Looking forward to next week!
                              I back tested both. Got 280-3 for the bet against and 258-6 for bet for. I did not apply your filter. So things might be different.

                              If your going to wait until the first team is finished, what happens if the other team loses which forces a B bet on the first team? The second team no longer qualifies right?
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                              • big limpin
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 01-26-11
                                • 208

                                #2815
                                Originally posted by DustyDiamond
                                I back tested both. Got 280-3 for the bet against and 258-6 for bet for. I did not apply your filter. So things might be different.

                                If your going to wait until the first team is finished, what happens if the other team loses which forces a B bet on the first team? The second team no longer qualifies right?

                                Hmmmm... I,would still consider them qualified. But you bring up an interesting point... maybe I should apply that filers to eliminate that team.
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                                • mwhelan11
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 03-24-11
                                  • 75

                                  #2816
                                  I agree with Jello.. this is still in trial... it looks really good which is always fishy in the sports betting world. usually if its to good to be true then it is. you definitely need a high bankroll for this. that 6 game was over 300 dollars with 10 dollar units and im sure everyone in here is over 10 dollar units
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                                  • DustyDiamond
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-19-09
                                    • 772

                                    #2817
                                    Originally posted by big limpin
                                    Hmmmm... I,would still consider them qualified. But you bring up an interesting point... maybe I should apply that filers to eliminate that team.
                                    To me that would eliminate the second team, because then you are not following the system anymore. Also here is another situation. Your betting against a team to lose their next game after a shutout. Lets say their next game they get shut out again. That would win the series, do you automatically start a new series because of the second shutout, or would that game just end the original series.
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                                    • Hip2Bsq
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 02-20-08
                                      • 163

                                      #2818
                                      Spammed a ton of threads, real classy.
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                                      • TRE1968
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 08-09-09
                                        • 425

                                        #2819
                                        Originally posted by dlunc3
                                        Big limpins exact quote was: "I would still stick with the .0010% fellas... it sounds super anal but I think this system should still be used for FUN."

                                        So, again just trying to clarify before putting big money at risk.. since he had said .0010 %... no need to step in and tell someone to stop inquiring with important questions regarding a system... that is the point of these forums.. help each other other to try to make money and beat the books.. not telling each other to stop posting esp. with a % as crucial as the one being talked about.. anyway... thanks again big limpin for the system... now that everything should be in the clear, best of luck to us all this season!
                                        anybody betting 6 gm chase doesnt bet for a living anyway
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                                        • shinnman
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-25-11
                                          • 282

                                          #2820
                                          think i will run a labby betting for a team to win one of the first 2 games after being shut out, teams must be above .500, last yr would have won 61% , thats good profit for a labby system
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                                          • gofightingirish
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 08-22-10
                                            • 272

                                            #2821
                                            so what are we doing here gentleman.....is this thread gonna be a chase? opening day is around the corner.....I cant wait as college basketball has put a dent in me the last two months....although I do worry about losing large moneylines on baseball
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                                            • SkivChef
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-19-09
                                              • 730

                                              #2822
                                              we goin live tommorrow or waiting?
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                                              • slapshot
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-27-07
                                                • 1194

                                                #2823
                                                i think we need a new thread for the season for this system......i'll create a new one shortly.
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                                                • DustyDiamond
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 12-19-09
                                                  • 772

                                                  #2824
                                                  Originally posted by SkivChef
                                                  we goin live tommorrow or waiting?
                                                  I am personally going to be waiting a few weeks, let the teams settle out so the lines become more accurate.
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                                                  • joeytunes
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-29-10
                                                    • 449

                                                    #2825
                                                    im with it i like it...can the same b applied for dog?
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                                                    • shinnman
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 02-25-11
                                                      • 282

                                                      #2826
                                                      labby labby labby, all the way to the bank
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                                                      • DustyDiamond
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-19-09
                                                        • 772

                                                        #2827
                                                        Looks like we have our first shutout system bet tomorrow. Bet against the Washington Nationals.
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