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    Quote Originally Posted by SaffaCappa View Post
    Nice shooting Kob
    tx pro

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    for those who interested, below is an excellent representation of teams performance plot from current season stat

    Philly is top elite such as Chicago & Heats etc.
    East teams in blue, Red -western conference

    wchart4.GIF

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    that is a nice graph

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    nets and wizards look so lonely with no friends. lol

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    wline-4.GIF

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    Last edited by kobstopa; 01-18-12 at 07:28 AM.

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    Detroit (3-11, 1-6) at Minnesota (5-8, 3-5)
    Pretty scary to see Minn -8.5 against any teams given their illustrious record in these past years. Part of the reason for such a favorite is to do with the fact that Detroit are 1-8 ATS in their last 9 games overall; 8 of these ATS were covered with nearly double digits cushion on average to go with it.

    key important factor that will put Detroit is a bad spot:
    -a b2b game, about 3 hours team flight from a cold day Houston to a sub minus Minnesota's winter
    -Minnesota have day off; will get some fresh leg
    -J.J. Barea, shooting guard Martell Webster and center Brad Miller all took part in practice; J.J. Bareais to be activated, this will add depth to the back court with Rubio/Luke Ridnour. So handling the speed of the PG's explosive attack in the lane or can they stop live dribble in the glass area, it will be a major problem for the Pistons. They cant really use Tayshaun Prince for the defensive purpose as he is more effective guarding forward positions.


    Detroit has the worst rebounds in the league 37.4, yesterday's match up against the Rockets which I had discussed in the thread yesterday, and the Rockets came out and dominated the glass as expected. Again Timberwolves's frontline unit: Kevin Love/Milicic and a physical post presence of Nikola Pekovic, is not far off from the Houston's frontline as had projected.

    It's true for Minnesota:

    Offensive Rebound Rate rank 10th vs Detroit at 12th
    Defensive Efficiency rank 9th vs Detroit at 29th
    Offensive Efficiency rank 17th vs Detroit at 29th

    Again this will be most likely another double digits lost for Detroit.

    Take Minnesota -8 (3 unit)

    Indiana at Sacramento
    Sacramento to push the ball and go upper tempo at home, remember Keith Smart, that's right, he coached Golden State last year, need i say more..

    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Sacramento's last 5 games at home
    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Indiana's last 6 games on the road

    Take Over 187.5 Points (2 unit)
    Last edited by kobstopa; 01-18-12 at 09:46 AM.

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    Do you like anything today in Eurohoops Kob ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobstopa View Post
    for those who interested, below is an excellent representation of teams performance plot from current season stat

    Philly is top elite such as Chicago & Heats etc.
    East teams in blue, Red -western conference

    wchart4.GIF
    What is the source? A web site or?? I'd like to get a larger version so I can print out and hang on wall


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    Quote Originally Posted by alamo View Post
    Do you like anything today in Eurohoops Kob ?
    no time, man
    NBA has a lot info and reading material to do as it is. tough schedule for me too now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC Woods View Post
    What is the source? A web site or?? I'd like to get a larger version so I can print out and hang on wall

    nbastuffer.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobstopa View Post
    no time, man NBA has a lot info and reading material to do as it is. tough schedule for me too now.
    No worries. My favourite over team REAL MADRID are in action tonight so thought you might be looking at these but obviously not. No worries and best of luck on NBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobstopa View Post
    Detroit (3-11, 1-6) at Minnesota (5-8, 3-5)
    Pretty scary to see Minn -8.5 against any teams given their illustrious record in these past years. Part of the reason for such a favorite is to do with the fact that Detroit are 1-8 ATS in their last 9 games overall; 8 of these ATS were covered with nearly double digits cushion on average to go with it.

    key important factor that will put Detroit is a bad spot:
    -a b2b game, about 3 hours team flight from a cold day Houston to a sub minus Minnesota's winter
    -Minnesota have day off; will get some fresh leg
    -J.J. Barea, shooting guard Martell Webster and center Brad Miller all took part in practice; J.J. Bareais to be activated, this will add depth to the back court with Rubio/Luke Ridnour. So handling the speed of the PG's explosive attack in the lane or can they stop live dribble in the glass area, it will be a major problem for the Pistons. They cant really use Tayshaun Prince for the defensive purpose as he is more effective guarding forward positions.


    Detroit has the worst rebounds in the league 37.4, yesterday's match up against the Rockets which I had discussed in the thread yesterday, and the Rockets came out and dominated the glass as expected. Again Timberwolves's frontline unit: Kevin Love/Milicic and a physical post presence of Nikola Pekovic, is not far off from the Houston's frontline as had projected.

    It's true for Minnesota:

    Offensive Rebound Rate rank 10th vs Detroit at 12th
    Defensive Efficiency rank 9th vs Detroit at 29th
    Offensive Efficiency rank 17th vs Detroit at 29th

    Again this will be most likely another double digits lost for Detroit.

    Take Minnesota -8 (3 unit) a push 93-85 -the guy miss two free-threw -one ring out, damn

    Indiana at Sacramento
    Sacramento to push the ball and go upper tempo at home, remember Keith Smart, that's right, he coached Golden State last year, need i say more..

    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Sacramento's last 5 games at home
    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Indiana's last 6 games on the road

    Take Over 187.5 Points (2 unit)
    the pacer score only 8 points in the last qrt
    -2u
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    Last edited by kobstopa; 01-19-12 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobstopa View Post
    for those who interested, below is an excellent representation of teams performance plot from current season stat

    Philly is top elite such as Chicago & Heats etc.
    East teams in blue, Red -western conference

    wchart4.GIF
    Love these types of infographics, thanks kobs! It would be interesting to compare the differences if strength of schedule was factored in (PHI having one of the easiest schedules so far, might over inflate their value here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gudis View Post
    Love these types of infographics, thanks kobs! It would be interesting to compare the differences if strength of schedule was factored in (PHI having one of the easiest schedules so far, might over inflate their value here).
    cool

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    I love the Utah/Dallas over 184......thoughts kobstopa?

    Love the thread by the way

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    New Orleans at Houston
    A battle in the glass, plus poor FG% for NO, and another solid defensive from Dalembert & E. Okafor/C. Kaman also.
    Take under 186½ (2 unit)

    Dallas at Utah
    Under is 8-0 in DAL last 8 vs. Western Conference.
    Under is 11-1 in DAL last 12 overall.
    Under is 6-2 in UTA last 8 overall.
    Take under 184 (2 unit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocode1 View Post
    I love the Utah/Dallas over 184......thoughts kobstopa?

    Love the thread by the way
    it's one of my play for tomorrow,
    plenty of half court basketball, good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobstopa View Post
    New Orleans at Houston
    A battle in the glass, plus poor FG% for NO, and another solid defensive from Dalembert & E. Okafor/C. Kaman also.
    Take under 186½ (2 unit) score: 90-88

    Dallas at Utah
    Under is 8-0 in DAL last 8 vs. Western Conference.
    Under is 11-1 in DAL last 12 overall.
    Under is 6-2 in UTA last 8 overall.
    Take under 184 (2 unit)
    +1.7u
    one more to come
    Last edited by kobstopa; 01-19-12 at 11:39 PM.

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    -.3u for the day
    season
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    Unlucky with the Utah under kobstopa......very lucky 3 at the end for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocode1 View Post
    Unlucky with the Utah under kobstopa......very lucky 3 at the end for me
    2nd day in a row either a push or lost by 1 point, but it didnt bother me.

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    Dallas line was sharp and to me kob was more on point. just bad luck

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    Had the 3 games multi on all unders today with last leg dall/utah (u/184.5 plus a seperate +2.5 teaser on utah - that 0.01 sec 3 pointer sunk me both ends big time.... 94 - 91
    painful but its all on again tomorrow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobstopa View Post
    2nd day in a row either a push or lost by 1 point, but it didnt bother me.
    We have all been there before kob and it sucks......onto tomorrow I guess.
    Philly/hawks over 184 I like.....sixers can always hit at least 95 at home if not more and the hawks should be able to get close to that, sixers do not do well against better teams.
    I'm sure your already know this, just thought I'd give my point of view.....thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocode1 View Post
    We have all been there before kob and it sucks......onto tomorrow I guess.
    Philly/hawks over 184 I like.....sixers can always hit at least 95 at home if not more and the hawks should be able to get close to that, sixers do not do well against better teams.
    I'm sure your already know this, just thought I'd give my point of view.....thoughts?
    sixers had dealt against with quality team, for instant
    IND 96-86 (W) with gameline -7/185.5 just two weeks ago, thus they give the Atl +6.5 &
    the following is true:

    Under is 20-8 in ATL last 28 road games.
    PHI are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 home games
    Under is 10-3 in PHI last 13 home games.

    injuries between these 2 teams level plan field abit: Al Horford/Spencer Hawk

    This is like a playoff conference match up in the east's first round type of game; last year sixers didnt
    survived the Heats in first round, the same for Atl, lost to the Bulls in round 2
    need to look into it more ....

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    w811.GIF

    season
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    net gain +7.45u

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    notice above projection is for 20th jan 2011 - cut & past wrong date.

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    1 20 12

    denver minus 7.5
    portland minus 7

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    Wainting for my local book to open the lines for tonight. Picks include Knicks under, Nuggets, Grizzlies & Pacers over. Good luck to all

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    Memphis at Detroit:
    Records: Grizzlies 7-6; Pistons 3-12.

    undervalue Memphis is coming home to Detroit, a great matchup from 5 to PG; it's sad that they cant use Hamed Haddadi
    yet. As season progress the Grizzlies is steadily improve, hustle and unselfish play has this team moving in a positive direction, at least should put a dominant performance against most sub .500 teams such as the Piston.

    Some key fact:
    MEM are 2-7 ATS in their last 9 road games. and 4-0 ATS in their last 4
    DET are 2-8 ATS in their last 10 games overall.

    FG, rebounding and overall defensive stops (top 10 efficiency vs Detroit's at 29th rank) are most significant edge that Memphis will have over Detroit. Although Detroit will have only a slight edge with shooting 3's and their brightest spot is Greg Monroe.

    Lineups
    Grizzlies: Mike Conley, 6-1, Tony Allen, 6-4, Rudy Gay, 6-8, Marreese Speights, 6-10, Marc Gasol, 7-1.
    Pistons: Brandon Knight, 6-3, Ben Gordon, 6-3, Tayshaun Prince, 6-9, Ben Wallace, 6-9, Greg Monroe, 6-11.

    It's not a walk in the park but Memphis should win by at least 9 points.

    Take Memphis -3.5 (3 unit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobstopa View Post
    Memphis at Detroit:
    Records: Grizzlies 7-6; Pistons 3-12.

    undervalue Memphis is coming home to Detroit, a great matchup from 5 to PG; it's sad that they cant use Hamed Haddadi
    yet. As season progress the Grizzlies is steadily improve, hustle and unselfish play has this team moving in a positive direction, at least should put a dominant performance against most sub .500 teams such as the Piston.

    Some key fact:
    MEM are 2-7 ATS in their last 9 road games. and 4-0 ATS in their last 4
    DET are 2-8 ATS in their last 10 games overall.

    FG, rebounding and overall defensive stops (top 10 efficiency vs Detroit's at 29th rank) are most significant edge that Memphis will have over Detroit. Although Detroit will have only a slight edge with shooting 3's and their brightest spot is Greg Monroe.

    Lineups
    Grizzlies: Mike Conley, 6-1, Tony Allen, 6-4, Rudy Gay, 6-8, Marreese Speights, 6-10, Marc Gasol, 7-1.
    Pistons: Brandon Knight, 6-3, Ben Gordon, 6-3, Tayshaun Prince, 6-9, Ben Wallace, 6-9, Greg Monroe, 6-11.

    It's not a walk in the park but Memphis should win by at least 9 points.

    Take Memphis -3.5 (3 unit)
    score: 98-81
    +2.7u

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    portland -6.5
    dallas-5.5
    okla city-7.5
    atl-7.5
    denver-2.5
    chi - alot!

    i got a good record

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay0212 View Post
    portland -6.5
    dallas-5.5
    okla city-7.5
    atl-7.5
    denver-2.5
    chi - alot!

    i got a good record
    good luck

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    w1s.GIF

    ytd: w/L record: 37-37
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    what're your picks

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