Wimbledon Discussion Thread 2009

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-25-09, 09:33 AM

Gicquel got the 4th set! Seppi serving to start the 5th. Nice.

**tbill11** · 06-25-09, 06:11 PM

What've you got tomorrow EaglesPhan? For me, Karlovic and Haas look like the plays. Tsonga is inexperience on grass, has only had to play one real match so far in this tournament, and Karlovic has been on fire. Similarly, Cilic hasn't impressed me so far and Haas could pull the rankings upset here (though favored in the books). Thoughts?

**shhhhh22** · 06-26-09, 04:47 AM

Looks like some decent values tomorrow, I'm taking...

Haas -150
Andreev -110
Sela +112
Razzano -165
Sugiyama +175

**jayc88** · 06-26-09, 05:06 AM

i'm on haas and razzano as well ,
like vesnina too , she has made me some cash this year and i already picked her in the first round against wickmayer

**Karayilan9** · 06-26-09, 05:56 AM

What about Karlovic? especially at +4, his game is suited to grass, one of the games biggest servers if he looses its usually in tie-break unless he's playing guys like Nadal or Fed. I don't rate Tsonga too much, he's got a chance here of-course and is the better player technically but he'll have trouble dealing with Karlo's power serve.

**jayc88** · 06-26-09, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

What about Karlovic? especially at +4, his game is suited to grass, one of the games biggest servers if he looses its usually in tie-break unless he's playing guys like Nadal or Fed. I don't rate Tsonga too much, he's got a chance here of-course and is the better player technically but he'll have trouble dealing with Karlo's power serve.

Where do you get +4 for karlovic ,
current odds from pinnacle are :

I. Karlovic o +2.5 -118

**Karayilan9** · 06-26-09, 06:44 AM

He was +4 earlier today on Bet365, he's +3.5 on Betfair

**yisman** · 06-26-09, 07:20 AM

Can't wait for the US Open. Waking up early for European tennis is getting annoying.

**shhhhh22** · 06-26-09, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by shhhhh22

Looks like some decent values tomorrow, I'm taking...

Haas -150
Andreev -110
Sela +112
Razzano -165
Sugiyama +175

Sugiyama was a dissapointment...

Don't know what the Razzano match means for my bet. Wimbledon.com says Razzano won but then it says "walkover" anyone know what that means?

**pavyracer** · 06-26-09, 08:08 AM

walkover means her opponent retired before the game started probably due to injury or illness. So your bet should be a push (voided).

**shhhhh22** · 06-26-09, 08:14 AM

thank you sir

**Karayilan9** · 06-26-09, 09:19 AM

Karlovic is a one trick pony, technically he's horrible, the guy can't hit basic sitters up on the net, he is so big but returns and hits the ball like a pusssy, can't even get involved in rallies but has one killer serve and wins games with it.

He just won the first set in a tie-break because Tsonga messed up on one of his points and Karlovic served straight aces.

I can't complain as I got a bet on the guy but this is as boring as tennis gets.

**pavyracer** · 06-26-09, 09:22 AM

It wouldn't have been boring if Tsonga returns the ball when Karlovic serves. Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

**Karayilan9** · 06-26-09, 09:36 AM

I'm not hating, I got money on Karlovic

its great from a betting perspective he's so consistant, I really shouldn't complain sorry about that

**yisman** · 06-26-09, 10:54 AM

Verdasco/Montanes started a half hour after Cibulkova/Vesnina.

V/M: 4-6 6-1 6-4 6-6
C/V: 5-7 6-4 3-4

**yisman** · 06-26-09, 11:05 AM

In fact, Verdasco is done, while Cibulkova is still playing, down 3-5.

**Karayilan9** · 06-26-09, 11:43 AM

Take Karlovic to the bank, he aced himself to victory

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-27-09, 12:12 AM

Rollin' on vacation and fresh off losing at the casino in Mississippi. Gonna just bet some singles I like, Berdych the best for me. Stepanek & JCF.

**sportsguy04** · 06-27-09, 12:51 AM

Whats the chances that :

Hewitt -1000
Roddick -1200
Djokovic -3000
Federer -3000
Venus Williams -3000
Serena Williams -1400

All win tommorrow? Looking to do a large ML parlay.

**shhhhh22** · 06-27-09, 12:54 AM

in my experience doing something like this works far less than you would expect, there's always one lazy bum that comes out and bites you in the ass

**Karayilan9** · 06-27-09, 06:05 AM

EaglesPhan
Gonna just bet some singles I like, Berdych the best for me. Stepanek & JCF.

Why Berdych? Davydenko is 8-0 against the guy, none of the games were on grass however, when a player has a flawless record against another head to head there is a match up problem between the two. Something in Davydenko's game makes it very hard for Berdych to get anything from it, last time they played Berdych got trashed 6-1, 6-1.

And how comes he's favourite? who knows this could be one of those days Davy bets against himself and Berdych may finally have his day but I don't see whats changed between the two for him to be the favorite.

**gn2056** · 06-27-09, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

Quote:
EaglesPhan
Gonna just bet some singles I like, Berdych the best for me. Stepanek & JCF.
Why Berdych? Davydenko is 8-0 against the guy, none of the games were on grass however, when a player has a flawless record against another head to head there is a match up problem between the two. Something in Davydenko's game makes it very hard for Berdych to get anything from it, last time they played Berdych got trashed 6-1, 6-1.

And how comes he's favourite? who knows this could be one of those days Davy bets against himself and Berdych may finally have his day but I don't see whats changed between the two for him to be the favorite.

exactly how is dayvadenko going off at near even when anyone else that has taht kind of lifetime record would be -850. Anyways, I think its cuz the whole scandal, the way I look at it I bet it big, and if Dayvadenko starts to lose hell just retire and it will be no bet anyways...

**gn2056** · 06-27-09, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

Why Berdych? Davydenko is 8-0 against the guy, none of the games were on grass however, when a player has a flawless record against another head to head there is a match up problem between the two. Something in Davydenko's game makes it very hard for Berdych to get anything from it, last time they played Berdych got trashed 6-1, 6-1.

And how comes he's favourite? who knows this could be one of those days Davy bets against himself and Berdych may finally have his day but I don't see whats changed between the two for him to be the favorite.

Originally posted by sportsguy04

Whats the chances that :

Hewitt -1000
Roddick -1200
Djokovic -3000
Federer -3000
Venus Williams -3000
Serena Williams -1400

All win tommorrow? Looking to do a large ML parlay.

federer and djokovic dont play today though... im betting against Venus today, probably wont happen but its always at wimbeldon that some 20 year old chick makes her presence known, not to mention Navarro already beat her at Roland Garros, I know different surface but + 1000 i will take it.

As for that parlay, the crappy odds your getting there just arent worth the risk. I think Roddick is a lock, Serena close to it. I would rather take a quarter of that money and bet Dayvadenko going off at like -120 when he should be -900.

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-29-09, 01:08 AM

Wimbledon Record: 8-7 (+5.50)

Round of 16
1. Parlay (Haas,Wozniacki,Hewitt)
Pays 1.27:1. All have advantageous matches and are playing exceptionally well right now. Wozniacki will have the toughest time as Lisicki is no push over.

2. Ferrero -125: I just find it hard not to like what JCF has done so far at this year's Wimbledon. He completely outclassed Youzhny and was able to out duel Fernando Gonzalez. I've seen a lot of writing about Simon "finding his game" - but he's beaten three players to this point who do not have the grass court pedigree of JCF.

3. Schiavone +125: Hunch pick here. Razzano played well in the Eastbourne tournament, but has been the beneficiary of two retirements here and a woeful Jill Craybas. Schiavone has played solid tennis in beating Wozniak who was hot entiring Wimbledon and dominated Bartoli on the way out of the 3rd round.

Also liking Petrova's chances at an upset of Azarenka. The price is off IMO for players 8 vs. 10. Both are playing well and this is much closer to a 50-50 shot. Probably going to go small on it.

**yisman** · 06-29-09, 07:30 AM

Soderling up 3-2 in the first set.

Two upsets I picked lost first set tiebreakers: Andreev and Petrova.

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-29-09, 10:04 AM

Wozniacki blew it for the parlay, but Schiavone cashed at least. Hoping JCF comes through!

**jayc88** · 06-29-09, 10:26 AM

need karlovic to beat verdasco,
this match reminds me why wimbledon has always been my least favorite grand slam tournament

**yisman** · 06-29-09, 10:51 AM

rain delay

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-29-09, 03:01 PM

2-1 today. JCF bitch slapped Simon. Loved that play. All three futures through to the QFs. Should be some definite money making hedge opps coming up for those. Where's Lou ... didn't you say Roddick was going to lose before the 3rd round? Good call SUCKA.

**cuteboy86hi** · 06-29-09, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

2-1 today. JCF bitch slapped Simon. Loved that play. All three futures through to the QFs. Should be some definite money making hedge opps coming up for those. Where's Lou ... didn't you say Roddick was going to lose before the 3rd round? Good call SUCKA.

who are your futures?

**j0hnnyv** · 06-29-09, 08:34 PM

good job EP. i had karlo and JCF myself

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-29-09, 10:07 PM

Cuteboy,

Futures were: Venus Williams, Roddick, Dementieva. Prices are on the 1st page of this thread somewhere.

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-30-09, 12:18 AM

Quarterfinals
1. (1/2 unit) Schiavone +275: Good hedge opportunity for me here against Dementieva. Schiavone is unaccustomed to being in a spot to advance to a Slam semi, but Dementieva really hasn't had any tests in her run to this point. If Schiavone continues her solid 1st serve, Dementieva's nerves could always get the best of her.

2. (1/2 unit) Lisicki +190: Lisicki has put together a great run to the QF and possesses the game to potentially trouble #1, Safina. Everyone continues to expect Dinara to flop, but to this point she hasn't. She also got her first test against Mauresmo & survived. The German is 3-1 vs. Top 10 players in 2009, having beaten two of them at Wimbledon + a win over Venus on clay in April. I think double faults are going to be big in this one as both have shown a propensity to double when they struggle. Lisicki has worked through 7, 8 & 8 doubles in three of her four matches here, so she seems to stay mentally strong. Safina, that's the question. Seeing as Lisicki beat Safina as a 17 year old at the Australian Open in 2008, I don't think she'll be overwhelmed by the moment. Both are better players now over that point and I think if Lisicki can stick her serve, she'll make Safina work to the last point and potentially cause the upset everyone has been looking for.

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-30-09, 06:34 PM

Lisicki had a shot today, but showed her youth against Safina who was ridiculous with the double faults. Got both ladies futures in the semis, so a shot to have them go head-2-head. Will probably hedge out on Dementieva against Serena depending on the price. I think Safina is living on borrowed time, so I will probably ride with Venus' future and nothing more. Still looking at the men for tomorrow. Possible hedge on Hewitt against Roddick. Other matches look fairly straight forward, although tempted to go against Djokovic, just don't know if Haas has enough.

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-01-09, 12:41 AM

Don't see anything to take at the current prices for Wednesday. Not going to hedge on Roddick just yet as I think he has played very well in this tournament and Hewitt really dug himself out of a hole against an off&on hobbled Stepanek. I expect a fight, but I'll sit tight on my Roddick future. No value on the Federer, Murray matches to me and as much as I want to take Haas, Djokovic has really been playing well here.