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  • offshoreguy
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-27-12
    • 113

    #36
    Originally posted by BigDaddy
    so if i am reading this right

    the OP took a shot on a obvious bad line and still got paid?

    Eggs-actly
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    • BigDaddy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-01-06
      • 8378

      #37
      change the book name to The Greek or Pinnacle

      and see how many people agree with the OP

      it's a shame that we complain about books being thieves but we don't call out people trying to scam the books just because it's a new book and not Pinnacle or The Greek
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      • marcojuiceman
        SBR MVP
        • 05-25-11
        • 2870

        #38
        Originally posted by shari91
        gummy bears, you need to fix that with the tennis bets. Especially when you don't even have tennis rules posted. (Or if you do, I can't find them after 5 mins of looking). 99.9% of my bets are tennis and I have never heard of a book cancelling wagers in play, even if they carry over 3 days due to rain. If a book did that to me, I'd be out of there never to return regardless if my player was ahead or behind.
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        • offshoreguy
          SBR High Roller
          • 04-27-12
          • 113

          #39
          Originally posted by BrianLaverty
          It seems to me that they are a very amateur book.

          "1VICE canceled the wagers because they said it messes up their accounting for the week."

          They don't even have sports-specific rules listed on there site.... Absolutely horrible.

          Sounds to me like you are reading way too deep into it. Line managers will make mistakes from time to time, it is common practice to delete the wagers placed by shot takers.
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          • shari91
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-23-10
            • 32661

            #40
            Originally posted by offshoreguy
            Sounds to me like you are reading way too deep into it. Line managers will make mistakes from time to time, it is common practice to delete the wagers placed by shot takers.
            It seems to me you're not understanding what Brian was talking about. He was referring to BET THE HOOK's post about a tennis wager that was cancelled when it shouldn't have been... not the OP's about betting a bad soccer line. A book should have their rules posted. Let alone for a sport like tennis where rules for retirements - NOT carried over matches as that rule is universal - varies from book to book. I can't even fathom what the explanation for not having clearly posted rules would be. And how one could then justify cancelling bets mid way through a tennis match - when I have never heard of another book doing that - because it "messes up their accounting". Are you kidding me?
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            • sharpcat
              Restricted User
              • 12-19-09
              • 4516

              #41
              Originally posted by BigDaddy
              change the book name to The Greek or Pinnacle

              and see how many people agree with the OP

              it's a shame that we complain about books being thieves but we don't call out people trying to scam the books just because it's a new book and not Pinnacle or The Greek
              Disgusting to see someone start a complaint thread after firing off a shot at a bad line.

              Hilarious that the OP would try to justify the line not being bad because BetRevolution also had the same line I did not realize that BetRevolution was considered a market maker.
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              • 1Vice George
                SBR High Roller
                • 01-15-12
                • 159

                #42
                Hello Shari.

                Yes I do agree that we should have our rules for Tennis games on our site. They have been updated. http://1vice.ag/house-rules.php

                On a side note I want to make it clear that it was never our intention to cheat the player. When Griffin was notified by betthehook about the situation he want back and credited the wager as a win for the 8 players that had that same wager(believe it or not not all of them know about the SBR) without having to contact them, he just did it because it was the right thing to do.

                If anyone has been paying attention to our book, our business model starts with great customer service. I cant even count the amount of times that we have given players money back for different stuff that other books would just tell you to **** off, Vitaly is just one of the examples.

                I know a lot of people in this forum hate us but slowly but surely we are getting more and more SBR posters to give us a shot. We offer the highest bonuses, some of the fastest payouts and some of the best customer service in the business. Please continue on the hating, its only making us stronger.
                Originally posted by shari91
                gummy bears, you need to fix that with the tennis bets. Especially when you don't even have tennis rules posted. (Or if you do, I can't find them after 5 mins of looking). 99.9% of my bets are tennis and I have never heard of a book cancelling wagers in play, even if they carry over 3 days due to rain. If a book did that to me, I'd be out of there never to return regardless if my player was ahead or behind.
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                • BrianLaverty
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-02-07
                  • 2183

                  #43
                  Originally posted by BigDaddy
                  change the book name to The Greek or Pinnacle

                  and see how many people agree with the OP

                  it's a shame that we complain about books being thieves but we don't call out people trying to scam the books just because it's a new book and not Pinnacle or The Greek
                  LOL

                  Pinnacle and The Greek both have specific rules on different sports. 1Vice is an amateur book who doesn't have specific rules, and cancels bets because it throws the accounting for the week off.

                  Can't believe people would actually stick up for a joke of a book like this.
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                  • tommygun
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-01-10
                    • 2239

                    #44
                    Looked at their website, looks like a year 8 student designed it.
                    BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                    Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                    • shari91
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-23-10
                      • 32661

                      #45
                      Originally posted by gummy bears
                      Hello Shari.

                      Yes I do agree that we should have our rules for Tennis games on our site. They have been updated. http://1vice.ag/house-rules.php

                      On a side note I want to make it clear that it was never our intention to cheat the player. When Griffin was notified by betthehook about the situation he want back and credited the wager as a win for the 8 players that had that same wager(believe it or not not all of them know about the SBR) without having to contact them, he just did it because it was the right thing to do.

                      If anyone has been paying attention to our book, our business model starts with great customer service. I cant even count the amount of times that we have given players money back for different stuff that other books would just tell you to **** off, Vitaly is just one of the examples.

                      I know a lot of people in this forum hate us but slowly but surely we are getting more and more SBR posters to give us a shot. We offer the highest bonuses, some of the fastest payouts and some of the best customer service in the business. Please continue on the hating, its only making us stronger.
                      That's excellent that you posted 1Vice's rules. I had sent two books' tennis rules to Griffin when he had stated tennis rules were vague at all books. Within 60 seconds I had copy and pasted the tennis rules of 5Dimes and Bovada to him (the two books he had mentioned for not having tennis rules posted). For tennis, it really is a big deal when it comes to retirements as there are many times a week where people place bets at one book over another depending on what that rule may be. I won't get into it but those who bet tennis regularly will know what I'm talking about. As far as carry overs, well there's not really any debate about that. And FWIW, I can't imagine anyone at any forum "hate" you. They just want to see less promoting and more solidification of your book. Posting rules is a good step in the right direction and will save you a lot of grief over time.
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                      • 1Vice George
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 01-15-12
                        • 159

                        #46
                        Have you ever since the greeks web site. Its the ugliest site that I have ever seen. Period.
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                        • 1Vice George
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-15-12
                          • 159

                          #47
                          Thats was for Tommy.

                          Anyhow we are always willing to discuss anything and suggestions are always welcome. Good luck to everyone.
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                          • DudleyDawson
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-10-12
                            • 5658

                            #48
                            Originally posted by gummy bears
                            Have you ever since the greeks web site. Its the ugliest site that I have ever seen. Period.
                            You've got to be the most unprofessional dude in the off shore industry.
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                            • BrianLaverty
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-02-07
                              • 2183

                              #49
                              Originally posted by gummy bears
                              Have you ever since the greeks web site. Its the ugliest site that I have ever seen. Period.
                              No one from an amateur book like 1vice has any right to criticise an industry legend site like Greek. Get off your high horse...your book won't be around in 3 years. Greek has had a perfect record for 15 years now....
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                              • ApricotSinner32
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-28-10
                                • 10648

                                #50
                                Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                You've got to be the most unprofessional dude in the off shore industry.

                                I don't care if the greek looks like shari's ass warts the key component to the equation is if the book has money to pay and will indeed pay if someone wins.
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                                • DudleyDawson
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-10-12
                                  • 5658

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                  I don't care if the greek looks like shari's ass warts the key component to the equation is if the book has money to pay and will indeed pay if someone wins.
                                  Having the money and paying the players are two completely different things. Plenty of these shops have the money but aren't paying.
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                                  • 1Vice George
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 01-15-12
                                    • 159

                                    #52
                                    I knew you guys would get upset about thegreek comment. I have an account there, im down of course, lol. All Im saying is dont judge the book by its cover. We do pay and pay faster then some of your A or B books. Yes maybe Im unprofessional but Im down to earth honest. If you dont like it, dont read what I post.
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                                    • BigDaddy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-01-06
                                      • 8378

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by BrianLaverty
                                      LOL

                                      Pinnacle and The Greek both have specific rules on different sports. 1Vice is an amateur book who doesn't have specific rules, and cancels bets because it throws the accounting for the week off.

                                      Can't believe people would actually stick up for a joke of a book like this.
                                      what does tennis rules have to do with this thread?

                                      my reply was to the OP the scammer that bet the obvious bad line and gets rewarded for doing so

                                      can you understand that?
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                                      • BigDaddy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-01-06
                                        • 8378

                                        #54
                                        change the title of this thread to

                                        TheGreek.com Void wagers

                                        and see what kind of replies this thread gets

                                        that's my point.
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                                        • brendon
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 443

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by gummy bears
                                          Have you ever since the greeks web site. Its the ugliest site that I have ever seen. Period.
                                          coming from a site that looks like a generic pph site lol
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                                          • BrianLaverty
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-02-07
                                            • 2183

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by BigDaddy
                                            what does tennis rules have to do with this thread?

                                            my reply was to the OP the scammer that bet the obvious bad line and gets rewarded for doing so

                                            can you understand that?

                                            Read the whole thread, you mo mo.

                                            "
                                            I will say that Griffen and George try hard to do whats right. I took some of my 5Dimes winnings to try them out. Yesterday I gad a tennis wager on Tsonga to win and the game was stopped with Tsonga winning 4-2 in the final set. Most books let the wager stand because it will be finished the next morning. 1VICE canceled the wagers because they said it messes up their accounting for the week. I was not happy because I had a sure winner. I also had an if wager off of this play that was already a winnner. Griffen made thing right and gave me my winnings. They really try hard to do right by the player as best I can see so far. Props to them so far. I am gonna try a payout pretty soon."


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                                            • BET THE HOOK
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-16-09
                                              • 1947

                                              #57
                                              I didnt mean to stir up a ton of crap about their tennis rules. I will admit that I was not happy about my winnings going away but where most people post it here first I chose to call the book first. Griffen fixed it before we even got off the phone which was the right thing to do. I do think plays should stand until they are final no matter if it messes up the weeks accounting or not. All other books let it stand. I just wanted to give him props because he made it right because if a book screws me I post that too. You gotta report the good and the bad.
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                                              • BrianLaverty
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-02-07
                                                • 2183

                                                #58
                                                It shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place. Its a complete industry standard that you don't cancel tennis plays under that circumstance. Only a joke of a book would do that and not even have sports-specific rules. The complete unprofessionalism of "gummy bears" (wtf is that name about anyway?) proves just how amateur this book is. Imagine Mike and Murray of Heritage acting like that? What about Wally from Greek? You would NEVER see that. Yes, he's only an employee, but he's a representative of the company.
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                                                • Da_Beast
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-06-11
                                                  • 123

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by BET THE HOOK
                                                  I didnt mean to stir up a ton of crap about their tennis rules. I will admit that I was not happy about my winnings going away but where most people post it here first I chose to call the book first. Griffen fixed it before we even got off the phone which was the right thing to do. I do think plays should stand until they are final no matter if it messes up the weeks accounting or not. All other books let it stand. I just wanted to give him props because he made it right because if a book screws me I post that too. You gotta report the good and the bad.
                                                  BET THE HOOK it is good that you called. Imagine 1 person out of the 20 people that made that same bet did not call. 1vice just screwed that person out of their winnings and it is a profit for 1vice. That is their strategy. It is completely wrong but they don't care because that is the type of book they are.

                                                  Not to mention it is a pain in the a.s.s. that you have to interrupt your day to call them about something that should not have happened in the first place.
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                                                  • vitalyo
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-05-07
                                                    • 1615

                                                    #60
                                                    OK few days passed by :


                                                    I have to admit i overreacted with the book - My hats off to Griffin .
                                                    Someone from his staff messed the whole thing up/ and din't know on how to grade them .So he or she voided half of them and the rest of the wagers got graded as a win.

                                                    Now as soon as i got in touch with a Griffin and explaiend to him the whole situation .
                                                    He replyed to me
                                                    looks like we owe you $421
                                                    with an option on how i wan't them to be settled . Pinnacle odds Relax Griffin I am just kidding LOL
                                                    My final thoughts . Staff doesn't know this things,shit happens .
                                                    I had fallowed and supported the group .I feel like .....I bashed the book for nothing !
                                                    In the last 6 years group did all the right things and it's actully hard to find any other book nor group (if any)who would do the same .

                                                    100% payout record .
                                                    Bonuses are up to 150% .Ahahaha I am not a shill


                                                    I kicked the guy who is trying to do his best .


                                                    GL>
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                                                    • Uga
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 10-12-11
                                                      • 70

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by gummy bears
                                                      Have you ever since the greeks web site. Its the ugliest site that I have ever seen. Period.
                                                      Everyone has to admit he's right about The Greek website.
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                                                      • BET THE HOOK
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-16-09
                                                        • 1947

                                                        #62
                                                        The Greek really is an ugly site
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                                                        • tommygun
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-01-10
                                                          • 2239

                                                          #63
                                                          I think we can agree both sites look like shit.
                                                          BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                                                          Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                                                          • secretstash
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-29-10
                                                            • 14907

                                                            #64
                                                            george can i get 150% fp?



                                                            -stash
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                                                            • 1Vice George
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-15-12
                                                              • 159

                                                              #65
                                                              I agree that our site is not the prettiest. We should have a new clean site before football season.
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                                                              • 1Vice George
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 01-15-12
                                                                • 159

                                                                #66
                                                                Stash we miss u over here. I cant hit a winner with my account ever since you left us. You dont need them bonus
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                                                                • dark star
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                                  • 3900

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Im gonna try 1Vice out
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                                                                  • DudleyDawson
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-10-12
                                                                    • 5658

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by dark star
                                                                    Im gonna try 1Vice out
                                                                    I was thinking about it too...but I'm pretty skeptical.
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                                                                    • BrianLaverty
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-02-07
                                                                      • 2183

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by dark star
                                                                      Im gonna try 1Vice out
                                                                      Its a great idea to try books out who don't know enough about the industry to post sports-specific rules on there site, give out 150% bonuses, and have a CS who has no idea how to be professional. This book is going far.
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                                                                      • Uga
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 10-12-11
                                                                        • 70

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by BrianLaverty
                                                                        Its a great idea to try books out who don't know enough about the industry to post sports-specific rules on there site, give out 150% bonuses, and have a CS who has no idea how to be professional. This book is going far.
                                                                        Oh shut up. Even if you were right (you're not), it's not your money.
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