5dimes check cashing problem!

[tdog1986]

[quote=priskilla22;12126539]It starts with a W. And ends in an E.[/quo

Dont know of any withdrawal option for US players that starts with a W and ends with a E. Why dont you just spell it out? Its not like the FBI or other gov' agency waste their time on the SBR forum..

[durito]

The processors have nothing to do with processing illegal transactions!

The us govt says otherwise.

[shari91]

The processors have nothing to do with processing illegal transactions! The A,C,H, doesnt say 5dimes on it. 5dimes is taking in a shit load of money especially with all the upsets the last two weeks plus whats going on in the NFL today.

The processors that one would use to send out payroll every 2nd Thursday are just a tad different than the ones being used by offshore books. Processing financial transactions related to online gambling is illegal according to the US Government. You might want to Google this issue if you haven't already - start with the UIGEA and then the name BetEd - and I'm sure you'd get a better idea of what the industry is facing and why most people on the forum aren't over-reacting because of this payment delay. It happens. It'll probably always happen sporadically until the US Govt finally makes online sportsbetting legal.

[tdog1986]

The processors that one would use to send out payroll every 2nd Thursday are just a tad different than the ones being used by offshore books. Processing financial transactions related to online gambling transactions is illegal according to the US Government. You might want to Google this issue - start with the UIGEA and then the name BetEd - and I'm sure you'd get a better idea of what the industry is facing and why most people on the forum aren't over-reacting because of this payment delay. It happens. It'll probably always happen sporadically until the US Govt finally makes online sportsbetting legal.

Shari91- No one will answer this question and the reason I filed a complaint with the SBR for them to hopefully look into this. Why wont 5dimes give players proof that the A,C,H, files were sent out on 10/17 and 10/18? 5dimes says they sent the files but cannot tell who recieves the money! Thats garbage and not true as I stated previous. So you think it is right for 5dimes to go through my personal bank statements to see if the A,C,H, went through? Why wouldnt they check the records at the processor or 5dimes accounts? 5dimes is holding this money or either the processor is about to bail out on 5dimes and run with the money. Thats the only two logical examples I can come up with.

I filed a complaint because CS at 5dimes will not tell you a thing about it. But they will be honest and tell you they have had alot of bounced checks lately lol what a joke of a book

[shari91]

Shari91- No one will answer this question and the reason I filed a complaint with the SBR for them to hopefully look into this. Why wont 5dimes give players proof that the A,C,H, files were sent out on 10/17 and 10/18? 5dimes says they sent the files but cannot tell who recieves the money! Thats garbage and not true as I stated previous. So you think it is right for 5dimes to go through my personal bank statements to see if the A,C,H, went through? Why wouldnt they check the records at the processor or 5dimes accounts? 5dimes is holding this money or either the processor is about to bail out on 5dimes and run with the money. Thats the only two logical examples I can come up with.

I filed a complaint because CS at 5dimes will not tell you a thing about it. But they will be honest and tell you they have had alot of bounced checks lately lol what a joke of a book

What I think is that anyone who ends up speaking with multiple people at an offshore book about the same issue might get a bit frustrated if they're not familiar with how things work. That's why we encourage people to file a complaint and let SBR determine what's going on when possible.

But to answer your question: Yes I do think it's ok for them to ask for your bank statement. There are way too many scammers out there when it comes to gambling. The longer you're here and frequent the Sportsbook and Industry forum, you'll see what I'm talking about. Some people will angle shoot anything to try to make an extra buck. For all we know some payments have gone through and only specific batches were held back. That's what I mean by either insisting on only ever talking to the same person each time you contact them or better yet, let SBR enquire about it as they're not going to get stuck at the CS rep stage. Again, I know you're pissed and it might seem like a big scam... but in this case, with this particular book, it simply isn't. It's a whole different environment when dealing with these processors within this specific industry.

[excel]

[PAULYPOKER]

5 dimes are getting paid BIGTIME this week so they will be good

[tdog1986]

What I think is that anyone who ends up speaking with multiple people at an offshore book about the same issue might get a bit frustrated if they're not familiar with how things work. That's why we encourage people to file a complaint and let SBR determine what's going on when possible.

But to answer your question: Yes I do think it's ok for them to ask for your bank statement. There are way too many scammers out there when it comes to gambling. The longer you're here and frequent the Sportsbook and Industry forum, you'll see what I'm talking about. Some people will angle shoot anything to try to make an extra buck. For all we know some payments have gone through and only specific batches were held back. That's what I mean by either insisting on only ever talking to the same person each time you contact them or better yet, let SBR enquire about it as they're not going to get stuck at the CS rep stage. Again, I know you're pissed and it might seem like a big scam... but in this case, with this particular book, it simply isn't. It's a whole different environment when dealing with these processors within this specific industry.

Shari91- I guess you dont understand what I am talking about as far as sending out A,C,H, batches...If you are sending out the A,C,H, batches you are getting recognition from the banks on whose money is going in what account! So 5dimes and the processors know when the money is deposited in players accounts. Why cant anyone understand what I am trying to say? Does anyone on here have accountant or payroll background? If so, they would be telling you the same freaking thing!

Take a step back and look at this, lets say I am a business and I am sending you an A,C,H, for any type of transaction no matter what it is for. When I send the A,C,H, batch to my business bank account to send to whatever your account is. I can pull up records of that money hitting your account, anytime and everytime after a transaction. So why cant 5dimes when it comes to paying players?

Please answer that one.

[davidchong]

I tried to cash out 1k, they never got back to me. Told me their service was down. So I did the next best thing; got drunk and lost in the casino

dont do hat

[davidchong]

dont do hat

dont do that

[shari91]

Shari91- I guess you dont understand what I am talking about as far as sending out A,C,H, batches...If you are sending out the A,C,H, batches you are getting recognition from the banks on whose money is going in what account! So 5dimes and the processors know when the money is deposited in players accounts. Why cant anyone understand what I am trying to say? Does anyone on here have accountant or payroll background? If so, they would be telling you the same freaking thing!

Take a step back and look at this, lets say I am a business and I am sending you an A,C,H, for any type of transaction no matter what it is for. When I send the A,C,H, batch to my business bank account to send to whatever your account is. I can pull up records of that money hitting your account, anytime and everytime after a transaction. So why cant 5dimes when it comes to paying players?

Please answer that one.

Yes... and when you deal with a processor that is handling transactions considered illegal by the US Government, then you can make comparisons. What bank is going to allow 5Dimes or it's processors to "get recognition on whose money is going in what account"? "Hi Mr Bank, I'm the processor for 5Dimes... yeah I know it's an offshore book. Yeah I know it's a felony to be processing these transactions but can ya let me know if it hit tdog's account because he's really getting cranky?"

Again: Google the UIGEA. Each time you post a bank name, processing method, etc.. you are talking about an illegal transaction according to the US government.

It's not an issue of no one understanding what you say. It's an issue of you thinking payroll payments has anything to do with an offshore book's processing methods. Completely different.

[Legions36]

They are no scam i have been paid numerous times.

[tdog1986]

Yes... and when you deal with a processor that is handling transactions considered illegal by the US Government, then you can make comparisons. What bank is going to allow 5Dimes or it's processors to "get recognition on whose money is going in what account"? "Hi Mr Bank, I'm the processor for 5Dimes... yeah I know it's an offshore book. Yeah I know it's a felony to be processing these transactions but can ya let me know if it hit tdog's account because he's really getting cranky?"

Again: Google the UIGEA. EACH TIME YOU POST YOUR BANK NAME, THE PROCESSING METHOD, ETC.. you are talking about an illegal transaction according to the US government.

It's not an issue of no one understanding what you say. It's an issue of you thinking payroll payments has anything to do with an offshore book's processing methods. Completely different.

Shari91- Here is where I can tell you have no financial or accounting background. You know this just as well as I do that the processors are just "made up" businesses that handle deposits and withdrawals. The thing you are not understanding and why I made a complaint to the SBR forum is the transactions arent coming through like that at the bank level!

And you still didnt answer my question! Where is SBR_John or Justin7? The guys who will understand what I am saying.

Answer the question, Why can the processors not see what amounts go in what players bank accounts? Processors can trace the money, just like any business can whether legal or illegal.

Since you are saying that the processors and 5dimes CANNOT see the transactions into players accounts. Then by your logic, I can cash a 5k check by the processors then call and say I never rec'd it!? By your logic, that method would work since 5dimes would need my "Personal" bank records to be able to see if the money went into the account.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

5dimes is best Book that services USA still. Every book no matter how big goes through processing issues a couple times a year. After all they are processing illegal transactions and the bank catch on eventually and blackball the transaction. The books purchase a new processor and the cat and mouse game continues. You just gotta ride the ebb and flow.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Shari91- Here is where I can tell you have no financial or accounting background. You know this just as well as I do that the processors are just "made up" businesses that handle deposits and withdrawals. The thing you are not understanding and why I made a complaint to the SBR forum is the transactions arent coming through like that at the bank level!

And you still didnt answer my question! Where is SBR_John or Justin7? The guys who will understand what I am saying.

Answer the question, Why can the processors not see what amounts go in what players bank accounts? Processors can trace the money, just like any business can whether legal or illegal.

Since you are saying that the processors and 5dimes CANNOT see the transactions into players accounts. Then by your logic, I can cash a 5k check by the processors then call and say I never rec'd it!? By your logic, that method would work since 5dimes would need my "Personal" bank records to be able to see if the money went into the account.

Thats smart call the person trying to help you stupid.

[shari91]

Shari91- Here is where I can tell you have no financial or accounting background. You know this just as well as I do that the processors are just "made up" businesses that handle deposits and withdrawals. The thing you are not understanding and why I made a complaint to the SBR forum is the transactions arent coming through like that at the bank level!

And you still didnt answer my question! Where is SBR_John or Justin7? The guys who will understand what I am saying.

Answer the question, Why can the processors not see what amounts go in what players bank accounts? Processors can trace the money, just like any business can whether legal or illegal.

Since you are saying that the processors and 5dimes CANNOT see the transactions into players accounts. Then by your logic, I can cash a 5k check by the processors then call and say I never rec'd it!? By your logic, that method would work since 5dimes would need my "Personal" bank records to be able to see if the money went into the account.

Hi. Now I'm going to be a bit of a snot: I have an MBA with a concentration in finance. Don't worry about if I understand what you're saying. Most people would understand my point regardless of their education. The whole point I tried to make however many posts up that you obviously missed answers this statement of yours: "I can cash a 5k check by the processors then call and say I never rec'd it!?"

YES YOU CAN. That's why they want your bank statements. And when everything has been rectified, they can reconcile with processor payments that went out for those of you who can't obtain a bank account.

You are not understanding what I'm saying. Or maybe you're just choosing not to because you're hoping your 3rd thread about this same subject will finally be just a little more dramatic. Again - do you notice how no one is chiming in to bash 5Dimes? There are people who frequent the forum who can't stand this book for various reasons. Worrying about the safety of their cash or processor delays isn't part of it.

Let's leave it at that. Best of luck with your future bets.

[excel]

If this is true someone could just receive their withdraw then photoshop their bank statement to reflect that they never did.

I will photoshop bank statements for 25%, 5dimes will never know you got your check.

[tdog1986]

Hi. Now I'm going to be a bit of a snot: I have an MBA with a concentration in finance. Don't worry about if I understand what you're saying. Most people would understand my point regardless of their education. The whole point I tried to make however many posts up that you obviously missed answers this statement of yours: "I can cash a 5k check by the processors then call and say I never rec'd it!?"

NO YOU CAN'T. That's why they want your bank statements.

You are not understanding what I'm saying. Or maybe you're just choosing not to because you're hoping your 3rd thread about this same subject just a little more dramatic. Again - do you notice how no one is chiming in?

Let's leave it at that. Best of luck with your future bets.

No way in hell you have a MBA in finance. So 5dimes accounting dept. doesnt know if I cashed a check or not? They would have to look at my bank records? lol this getting really sad. Laugh at me all you want but you no nothing of how to run a business from a financial or accounting standpoint!

So the processors cutting the checks cant tell if someone is depositing the checks? lol this is pure comical.

[soxwin1917]

No way in hell you have a MBA in finance. So 5dimes accounting dept. doesnt know if I cashed a check or not? They would have to look at my bank records? lol this getting really sad. Laugh at me all you want but you no nothing of how to run a business from a financial or accounting standpoint! So the processors cutting the checks cant tell if someone is depositing the checks? lol this is pure comical.

I'm assuming you're right around 21 years old (or younger) or you're older but never graduated high school.

[tdog1986]

If this is true someone could just receive their withdraw then photoshop their bank statement to reflect that they never did.

I will photoshop bank statements for 25%, 5dimes will never know you got your check.

Excel- Exactly, I swear you are one of very few people I've seen make sense of the crap people like shari91 are saying. Shari91 says she has a MBA in finance lol no way in hell..

Folks, like Excel said, I can make the transactions disappear off your bank statement any day of the week!

[tdog1986]

I'm assuming you're right around 21 years old (or younger) or you're older but never graduated high school.

Me? Not even close. 26 years old. Graduated from Auburn University with a bachelors in Accountancy. Followed by the Mac program a year later. I am now a CPA for the largest fast food franchise in the world. Thanks though for trying to take a stab at me.

[shari91]

No way in hell you have a MBA in finance. So 5dimes accounting dept. doesnt know if I cashed a check or not? They would have to look at my bank records? lol this getting really sad. Laugh at me all you want but you no nothing of how to run a business from a financial or accounting standpoint!

So the processors cutting the checks cant tell if someone is depositing the checks? lol this is pure comical.

You're right. I'm lying to a guy who has been here for 9 days on the forum because I really care to impress you.

The processors are not the processors you are used to. When does someone deposit a check? That day? A week from the time they receive it? A month? Not everyone scurries to a check cashing place as soon as they get their hands on a few bucks. Same thing my cell phone company did to me 6 weeks ago when I said I never received a credit they insisted they paid... scanned my bank statements and then 4 or 5 days later the money was in my account. What part aren't you understanding?

You are asking them to trust that you haven't received the money. They're asking you to prove that you haven't, amongst an industry full of people who scam for $5 if they think they have a shot of getting away with it.

Don't talk to me about comical. The fact that you've made 3 threads about the same thing yet can't bother to google the simple letters UIGEA is beyond humorous. GL.

[tdog1986]

You're right. I'm lying to a guy who has been here for 9 days on the forum because I really care to impress you.

The processors are not the processors you are used to. When does someone deposit a check? That day? A week from the time they receive it? A month? Not everyone scurries to a check cashing place as soon as they get their hands on a few bucks. Same thing my cell phone company did to me 6 weeks ago when I said I never received a credit they insisted they paid... scanned my bank statements and then 4 or 5 days later the money was in my account. What part aren't you understanding?

You are asking them to trust that you haven't received the money. They're asking you to prove that you haven't, amongst an industry full of people who scam for $5 if they think they have a shot of getting away with it.

Don't talk to me about comical. The fact that you've made 3 threads about the same thing yet can't bother to google the simple letters UIGEA is beyond humorous. GL.

Shari91- What would someone like yourself with a MBA in finance be doing as a "moderator" of a website about sports gambling? I think you might be the only person on earth is a chat moderator with a MBA in Finance like you claim lol


You dont understand, you dont have an MBA. You can falsify doucments all day long and if you were an accountant or finance person you would already no of this.

[shari91]

Shari91- What would someone like yourself with a MBA in finance be doing as a "moderator" of a website about sports gambling? I think you might be the only person on earth is a chat moderator with a MBA in Finance like you claim lol


You dont understand, you dont have an MBA. You can falsify doucments all day long and if you were an accountant or finance person you would already no of this.

I'm a 36yo mother. Who busted my ass for 15 yrs so I could stay at home with my child. Anymore questions?

Or are you going to start googling now?

I'd politely suggest that until you educate yourself on this industry, you don't start any more threads repeating the same thing. Again: There's a reason that even the biggest disgruntled 5dimes posters aren't chiming in here.

[tdog1986]

I'm a 36yo mother. Who busted my ass for 15 yrs so I could stay at home with my child. Anymore questions?

Or are you going to start googling now?

I'd politely suggest that until you educate yourself on this industry, you don't start any more threads repeating the same thing. Again: There's a reason that even the biggest disgruntled 5dimes posters aren't chiming in here.

All of the other players are still commenting on not getting there money! How they are being lied to everyday by 5dimes CS.

I know all about the UIGEA...I dont know many people with a MBA in finance who retired after 14 years working! I hope your husband makes a ton of money... Again, you dont understand, UIGEA has NOTHING to do with 5dimes and the processors not knowing when a check is cashed.

[tdog1986]

I'm a 36yo mother. Who busted my ass for 15 yrs so I could stay at home with my child. Anymore questions?

Or are you going to start googling now?

I'd politely suggest that until you educate yourself on this industry, you don't start any more threads repeating the same thing. Again: There's a reason that even the biggest disgruntled 5dimes posters aren't chiming in here.

Also, how did you get a bachelors and MBA so fast? 36-15= 21 years old. Avg age for a highschool graduate is 17-18. So lets see you got a 4 year bachelor degree and a Masters degree all within 4 years?? lol not at a accredited University.

[shari91]

All of the other players are still commenting on not getting there money! How they are being lied to everyday by 5dimes CS.

I know all about the UIGEA...I dont know many people with a MBA in finance who retired after 14 years working! I hope your husband makes a ton of money... Again, you dont understand, UIGEA has NOTHING to do with 5dimes and the processors not knowing when a check is cashed.

If you truly believe the part I bolded, I suggest you start google again.

Let me ask you... is this your first experience with an offshore book? No shame if it is. Just curious.

[excel]

this is getting good

[shari91]

Also, how did you get a bachelors and MBA so fast? 36-15= 21 years old. Avg age for a highschool graduate is 17-18. So lets see you got a 4 year bachelor degree and a Masters degree all within 4 years?? lol not at a accredited University.

Ok now it's obvious you are a child. You do realise that any decent school won't even accept you for the MBA program unless you have experience in your chosen field? Experience gained by working in it? You start to work, gain experience and then enrol in the program.

Great if that's different at the matchbook school you went to but not at any decent college throughout North America.

Don't try to front me pal. I'll always win. I don't tell tales on here and I don't cry about things that are beyond my control.

Learn the applicable laws before you spout off about what's illegal or not. Learn the standards of the industry. Just learn. GL.

[excel]

Also, how did you get a bachelors and MBA so fast? 36-15= 21 years old. Avg age for a highschool graduate is 17-18. So lets see you got a 4 year bachelor degree and a Masters degree all within 4 years?? lol not at a accredited University.

Shari, we are gonna have to review your SBR application after this post.

[P.F.Kasooff]

Where is jjgold when something really matters ?

[shari91]

Shari, we are gonna have to review your SBR application after this post.

lol i wish

If I didn't think this guy would keep spamming the forum with the same thing, considering he's already made a thread titled "5Dimes payout update" or whatever, I wouldn't even bother. Sad part is that I get why he's frustrated but it's like gambling 101 here and no matter who tries to tell him, he thinks he knows better. Can't win with that.

Anyway, off to watch my NFL bets lose.

[tdog1986]

Shari, we are gonna have to review your SBR application after this post.

lol Excel- I meant 3 years. How did you get 5 years of college done in less than 3 years? I would love to know.

Also, I cannot find anywhere on the UIGEA where it says, "5dimes cannot Audit its on financial affairs" lol can anyone please show me where it says they cant?

[tdog1986]

Ok now it's obvious you are a child. You do realise that any decent school won't even accept you for the MBA program unless you have experience in your chosen field? Experience gained by working in it? You start to work, gain experience and then enrol in the program.

Great if that's different at the matchbook school you went to but not at any decent college throughout North America.

Don't try to front me pal. I'll always win. I don't tell tales on here and I don't cry about things that are beyond my control.

Learn the applicable laws before you spout off about what's illegal or not. Learn the standards of the industry. Just learn. GL.

Shari91- This post proves 100% how much of a liar you are...SBR you should consider the type of people you hire.

I guess you didnt realize in your "very short" college career of how many students around you had NO experience in the accounting or financial field while getting their backelors and masters degrees? It's funny how I was accepted into the Mac program, which is a hell of a lot tougher than the MBA while I had no accounting experience.

Again, Can you explain how you got through 5 years of college in less than 3 years?? I would love to know or are you out of bullshit stories?

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

How does saying you worked hard for 15 years to get where your at now mean you worked that whole 15 years. You think a business owner thats owned his company for 10 years say hes only worked hard for 10 years?

You cease to amaze me