CAUTION --- TONY 5 DIMES TRYING to TAKE A SHOT AT PLAYERS RIGHT NOW.

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  • Robber
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-21-09
    • 6432

    #106
    Originally posted by lemart5
    As long as the check I get from them tomorrow doesnt bounce im good.
    imaginary checks don't bounce
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    • ouman101
      SBR MVP
      • 12-02-09
      • 2815

      #107
      I think OP has a good point about the lines. It doesn't help though that Nobs and 5Dimes are the equivalent to Michael Moore and Conspiracy Theories.
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      • BlazeMoney
        Restricted User
        • 05-25-11
        • 108

        #108
        Wow can't believe I missed this thread

        Nobs is absolutely 100% correct here. Tony is a lying cheating scumbag.

        What I don't get is how in the new June 2011 sbr poster sportsbook poll, guys are still voting for 5dimes. Unreal
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        • oiler
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-06-09
          • 6585

          #109
          guess if he can get away with it he will continue to do it...another bs scam by a book
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          • shari91
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-23-10
            • 32661

            #110
            Originally posted by boeing power
            i bet if they did a new poll 5Crimes would not make top 5 but sbr will not do it, they know where their bread is buttered
            I realise you felt so strongly about this SBR conspiracy thing with polling that you felt the need to repeat yourself twice in the same thread, but you DO look at other threads right?

            And the poll was up before this thread was created.

            Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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            • RoagBettor
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-20-09
              • 8355

              #111
              A conflict of interest occurs when an individual or organization is involved in multiple interests, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation for an act in the other.
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              • Dr.Gonzo
                SBR MVP
                • 12-05-09
                • 4660

                #112
                Still yet to be convinced that there are any bad lines there.
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                • Glitch
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-08-09
                  • 11795

                  #113
                  Originally posted by SBR_John
                  Could be. But you can't look at a few longshots and say a bookie's market is off. This is not a casino game. You could always ask them to double check their line before you bet it so you are sure its not a bad line. Might make for a boring thread though.
                  you shouldnt HAVE TO do this but its a surefire way to make sure your bet is honored. if you actually have a legitimate concern of whether or not your bet will stand when the smoke clears and the tournament/event goes final- then just verify that its not a bad line:

                  1.click live chat
                  2. ask them to ask the golf department if its a bad line
                  3. $$$$$

                  but great post nobs. this is kinda messed up that it even happens sometimes.
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                  • mdemps9190
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-08-07
                    • 1957

                    #114
                    Very messed up that this happens. Really shouldn't have to verify everything...I think 5Dimes should be a B+ book. They payout from what I know, and they have great props, but they are a sketchy book with HORRIBLE customer service.
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                    • Dr.Gonzo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-05-09
                      • 4660

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Glitch
                      you shouldnt HAVE TO do this but its a surefire way to make sure your bet is honored. if you actually have a legitimate concern of whether or not your bet will stand when the smoke clears and the tournament/event goes final- then just verify that its not a bad line:

                      1.click live chat
                      2. ask them to ask the golf department if its a bad line
                      3. $$$$$

                      but great post nobs. this is kinda messed up that it even happens sometimes.
                      You're just asking Tony to put limits on your account if you do this.

                      1.Log onto betfair and check the market odds.
                      2.Screenshot for proof

                      You can't argue a bad line if the market says it isn't.
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                      • Glitch
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-08-09
                        • 11795

                        #116
                        thats the whole problem gonzo- that their generous lines dont match up to the market- so its like a ploy to attract customers. i think the problems arise when its clearly NOT comparable to the market odds.

                        "bait and switch" is what they're claiming here. but what im saying is you can take the bait and then say essentially "youre not gonna switch right?" i dont think it would lead to more limits being put on ones account but who knows.
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                        • spankie
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-10-11
                          • 9992

                          #117
                          sliiimeeeeeys.
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                          • alling
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-13-10
                            • 1405

                            #118
                            5Dimes was 1 of 2 books i narrowed it down to. Then I read all the complaints about Tony being an asshole. Eliminated 5Dimes because didn't want an asshole to book my bets. Coupled with the bad line info not sure why anyone would.
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                            • SBR_John
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-12-05
                              • 16471

                              #119
                              Originally posted by fury
                              They are an A+ advertiser.
                              They are are also the top rated book voted on by you guys in an open vote format. (See posters poll)
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                              • Richkas
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-03-08
                                • 19396

                                #120
                                Tony is a shot taker....no doubt
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                                • donkdown
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 07-09-09
                                  • 4423

                                  #121
                                  SBR JOHN It's Business as Usual over at the 5Dimes shop I see!! Tony is a wanna be thug who can suck my rooster!! He 100% is a shot taker so my suggestion is to take shots back at him. I did and I'm proud of it!! I also feel 100% better!! Tony I know u r reading this!! FCK U pussy!! U r a Chat God. Next time u threaten me Anthony do that shit in person or at least call tough guy never do it over the cpu!! Cuz u see what Im capable of!! No one rips me off and get's away with it!! Tony tell Vivian to get out from under your desk and do her job!!
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                                  • SBR_John
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-12-05
                                    • 16471

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by donkdown
                                    SBR JOHN It's Business as Usual over at the 5Dimes shop I see!! Tony is a wanna be thug who can suck my rooster!! He 100% is a shot taker so my suggestion is to take shots back at him. I did and I'm proud of it!! I also feel 100% better!! Tony I know u r reading this!! FCK U pussy!! U r a Chat God. Next time u threaten me Anthony do that shit in person or at least call tough guy never do it over the cpu!! Cuz u see what Im capable of!! No one rips me off and get's away with it!! Tony tell Vivian to get out from under your desk and do her job!!
                                    That's why we have the forum. Take shots and get it all out...and now you feel better.

                                    We love to hate books or SBR Blackjack and whatever else maybe poker too. Sometimes a good ole bad beat cry helps. Funny thing is most if not all those having their cry will log into their 5Dimes account today and take a whack at Tony.
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                                    • WVU
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-01-08
                                      • 417

                                      #123
                                      No way does tony pay out 130-1 on Ohair if he wins and there was decent action on it.
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                                      • durito
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-03-06
                                        • 13173

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by WVU
                                        No way does tony pay out 130-1 on Ohair if he wins and there was decent action on it.
                                        It´s inline with the market price at betfair. As is ever other line in this thread.

                                        The one referenced dispute was a +2400 that had a market price around +240
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                                        • Cuse0323
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-09-09
                                          • 30169

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by SBR_John
                                          That's why we have the forum. Take shots and get it all out...and now you feel better.

                                          We love to hate books or SBR Blackjack and whatever else maybe poker too. Sometimes a good ole bad beat cry helps. Funny thing is most if not all those having their cry will log into their 5Dimes account today and take a whack at Tony.
                                          very true.
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                                          • shari91
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 02-23-10
                                            • 32661

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by durito
                                            It´s inline with the market price at betfair. As is ever other line in this thread. The one referenced dispute was a +2400 that had a market price around +240
                                            nobs, when you said a few times in your first post "every other book", did you check betfair for what the market price actually is?
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65084

                                              #127
                                              My posts in the other thread that I cross posted in this thread are directly related to Top 20 finishes having BETTER odds than Top 10 finishes.

                                              To nobs point though, I guess we should just expect 5dimes to have enough liquidity to equal odds on players MATCHED bets on betfair for millions of dollars.

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                                              • TomG
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-29-07
                                                • 500

                                                #128
                                                Sum up the overround for the entire event. If it falls below 100% then we can start discussing if 5Dimes is hanging intentionally bad lines.

                                                It's not unusual for one book to feel a golfer has a 2% shot (+4900) and another book to differ by 1% and have him at +9900.
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                                                • teaserpleaser
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-14-08
                                                  • 26015

                                                  #129
                                                  lol @ 5crimes
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                                                  • louis
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-23-06
                                                    • 763

                                                    #130
                                                    Its hard to tell if Tony is taking a shot or not, because 5 Dimes often offers very very good lines with very little vigorish. Just because he is offering a good line doesn't necessarily mean he is taking a shot. For example with the NBA he will offer +250, when everyone else is at +200, but he has the other side at -270, where the other books have the other side at -300. In this case he is not taking a shot, but just not charging as much commission to book the bet as the others. One thing I do like about Tony and 5 dimes is that they do not charge a lot of vig and commission on their bets. They do offer great prices in order to attract action. People do not post on the board those great bets that Tony did not cancel, they just post the ones that he does so it makes it seem like he is cancelling a lot of bets, when in fact he is probably only cancelling a very small percentage of them. On the other hand, I can't be sure that when he notices a mistake that he fixes it immediately or whether he waits to see if it wins or not. But I think it is somewhat an exaggeration to say that all these future bets he is offering are shots at players. These are bets that do not have a clear market price, if he cancels one of these, we will have a good arguement that all of his futures prices were better than the other books so it must not have been mistakes.
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                                                    • durito
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                      • 13173

                                                      #131
                                                      There is no issue here. 5dimes offers a more competitively priced market on golf winners (and other futures markets) than other US facing books. They have always done this. The prices are in line with the actual market (betfair). Bookmaker-Greeks very large hold on these events is not the market.

                                                      The only golf disputes from 5dimes that have come up have been obvious errors.
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                                                      • JDUB07
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-09-08
                                                        • 1721

                                                        #132
                                                        Man SBR investigative unit on it. This was a great find of information and it's all coming together now. So obvious that is what he is doing.
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                                                        • ArunSh
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-24-07
                                                          • 6801

                                                          #133
                                                          Problem with 5 Dimes is like the majority of books, most players end up losing or are very marginal winners, and only the people who wind up doing really well tend to be given bad treatment there. But a player winning is no excuse for being shady or treating them badly, that's one of the risks you have to take when you enter this business. Of course most don't experience it since they aren't targeted for it which is why 5 Dimes can be voted highly, but those who have experienced it know better as to what kind of operation 5 Dimes really is.
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                                                          • ForgetWallStreet
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 04-27-07
                                                            • 342

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by TomG
                                                            Sum up the overround for the entire event. If it falls below 100% then we can start discussing if 5Dimes is hanging intentionally bad lines.

                                                            It's not unusual for one book to feel a golfer has a 2% shot (+4900) and another book to differ by 1% and have him at +9900.
                                                            Originally posted by durito
                                                            There is no issue here. 5dimes offers a more competitively priced market on golf winners (and other futures markets) than other US facing books. They have always done this. The prices are in line with the actual market (betfair). Bookmaker-Greeks very large hold on these events is not the market.

                                                            The only golf disputes from 5dimes that have come up have been obvious errors.
                                                            End of thread.
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                                                            • TheMoneyShot
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 02-14-07
                                                              • 28672

                                                              #135
                                                              Listen... I don't understand the craziness with this thread?!?!?! I've been dealing with 5dimes for about 5 years now. To all USA gamblers out there... there are few and far between books that cater to us. There are plenty of positives about 5dimes.

                                                              Ask for a courier check on a Monday. It's at your doorstep Thursday. Every single payout. 3k each and every time. I'm not trying to sound like a know it all... or that I win... blah blah blah... but I cashed in 9k in just under a month with 5Dimes at one point in March. It's like clock work... click on... HEY I WANT A CHECK... and bingo... check is at your door step. Do you guys even WIN???!!?!? I mean I'm not trying to sound like a self centered prick... but why is everyone bitching for in this thread???

                                                              I have an idea... let's bitch at the book that pays promptly and on time???

                                                              They have a reduce juice option. And... you can wager practically any amount you want... even though SBR lists them has recreational... they seem to be for the professional gambler.


                                                              You guys need to get off your rags. Seriously. The only horror stories that I've heard conclusive thus far were blatant errors on lines. TheGreek has had many errors in 10 years too... and if you pull that bullshit with Wally he'll kick your ass all over the place. I admit in my younger days... I took a shot at a bad line in 2002... and Wally gave me the best ass chewing over the phone in my life. But, he turned me into a better gambler. So you guys need to be men and stop being pus#$#s! Everyone knows your experience levels from your account. These guys aren't stupid. So, don't be an idiot taking chances on bogus lines.

                                                              And stop playing dumb wha? wha? wha? wha? through chat sessions or over the phone... Tony... Wally... they've been doing this when we were probably in our diapers. You want to beat them??? Then pick the right F'ing game... pick the right side... that's how you beat them. Stop wussing out. And if anyone says otherwise that they truly had a legit line... PM me and show me your evidence. I'm tired of these BS stories. Half of this sh#$ originated in the Casino games because of malfunctions not from prop bets.
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                                                              • 9XL
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 08-21-08
                                                                • 102

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by durito
                                                                There is no issue here. 5dimes offers a more competitively priced market on golf winners (and other futures markets) than other US facing books. They have always done this. The prices are in line with the actual market (betfair). Bookmaker-Greeks very large hold on these events is not the market. The only golf disputes from 5dimes that have come up have been obvious errors.
                                                                +1

                                                                OP is way off on this complaint. From what I can tell, 5Dimes copies their golfer odds from BetFair's market odds with a slight reduction. The OP brings to light how poor other books odds are on these events. Add up Bookmaker's hold on golf tournaments and futures and it's ridiculous.
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                                                                • Bartmeister
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 09-10-10
                                                                  • 412

                                                                  #137
                                                                  When in doubt and just to be on the safe side, its probably better to ask Tony to ensure that his line is correct. It just seems too easy for any book to make a case for a "bad line", whether it was listed that way intentionally or not.
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                                                                  • Sawyer
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-01-09
                                                                    • 7761

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Never had a problem with 5Dimes..except limits. Good book imo. You won't have any problems if you don't pick bad/loose lines.
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                                                                    • Bartmeister
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 09-10-10
                                                                      • 412

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Hypothetically speaking, lets say the longshot did win, even though Tony's odds are in line with Betfair's, could he still claim a bad line, as it is way off compared to the lines at the Greek, Betjam, Bookmaker, Legends etc.?

                                                                      I guess a better question would be, would SBR agree with him in this hypothetical case?
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                                                                      • drunkenbeaver
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 06-27-10
                                                                        • 215

                                                                        #140
                                                                        I'm a bit surprised at the astonishment from some posters in this thread. This shizzit is not regulated by our gov't.. hence the guys who run these gambling sites (sports, casino, whatever) can do whatever they want!

                                                                        Seriously, what is anyone gonna do about it. Like the mods spit out a couple times here, 5 Dimes was voted by SBR posters as one of the best and there are still numerous complaint threads. I would hate to see the complaint list from a non-A book.

                                                                        Seems like for the most part the top ones pay out a great percentage, but when they don't feel like it there's no police to make them give you your money if they don't want to.

                                                                        You don't want to hear this, but this is why the US gov't says internet gambling is illegal. There's nothing they can do if these people screw you and there's no surefire way that you can guarantee you'll get what your owed.
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