CAUTION --- TONY 5 DIMES TRYING to TAKE A SHOT AT PLAYERS RIGHT NOW.
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RobberSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-21-09
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#106Comment -
ouman101SBR MVP
- 12-02-09
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#107I think OP has a good point about the lines. It doesn't help though that Nobs and 5Dimes are the equivalent to Michael Moore and Conspiracy Theories.Comment -
BlazeMoneyRestricted User
- 05-25-11
- 108
#108Wow can't believe I missed this thread
Nobs is absolutely 100% correct here. Tony is a lying cheating scumbag.
What I don't get is how in the new June 2011 sbr poster sportsbook poll, guys are still voting for 5dimes. UnrealComment -
oilerSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-09
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#109guess if he can get away with it he will continue to do it...another bs scam by a bookComment -
shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-23-10
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#110
And the poll was up before this thread was created.
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RoagBettorSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-20-09
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#111A conflict of interest occurs when an individual or organization is involved in multiple interests, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation for an act in the other.Comment -
Dr.GonzoSBR MVP
- 12-05-09
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#112Still yet to be convinced that there are any bad lines there.Comment -
GlitchSBR Posting Legend
- 07-08-09
- 11795
#113
1.click live chat
2. ask them to ask the golf department if its a bad line
3. $$$$$
but great post nobs. this is kinda messed up that it even happens sometimes.Comment -
mdemps9190SBR MVP
- 11-08-07
- 1957
#114Very messed up that this happens. Really shouldn't have to verify everything...I think 5Dimes should be a B+ book. They payout from what I know, and they have great props, but they are a sketchy book with HORRIBLE customer service.Comment -
Dr.GonzoSBR MVP
- 12-05-09
- 4660
#115you shouldnt HAVE TO do this but its a surefire way to make sure your bet is honored. if you actually have a legitimate concern of whether or not your bet will stand when the smoke clears and the tournament/event goes final- then just verify that its not a bad line:
1.click live chat
2. ask them to ask the golf department if its a bad line
3. $$$$$
but great post nobs. this is kinda messed up that it even happens sometimes.
1.Log onto betfair and check the market odds.
2.Screenshot for proof
You can't argue a bad line if the market says it isn't.Comment -
GlitchSBR Posting Legend
- 07-08-09
- 11795
#116thats the whole problem gonzo- that their generous lines dont match up to the market- so its like a ploy to attract customers. i think the problems arise when its clearly NOT comparable to the market odds.
"bait and switch" is what they're claiming here. but what im saying is you can take the bait and then say essentially "youre not gonna switch right?" i dont think it would lead to more limits being put on ones account but who knows.Comment -
spankieSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-10-11
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#117sliiimeeeeeys.Comment -
allingSBR MVP
- 05-13-10
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#1185Dimes was 1 of 2 books i narrowed it down to. Then I read all the complaints about Tony being an asshole. Eliminated 5Dimes because didn't want an asshole to book my bets. Coupled with the bad line info not sure why anyone would.Comment -
RichkasSBR Posting Legend
- 02-03-08
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#120Tony is a shot taker....no doubtComment -
donkdownRestricted User
- 07-09-09
- 4423
#121SBR JOHN It's Business as Usual over at the 5Dimes shop I see!! Tony is a wanna be thug who can suck my rooster!! He 100% is a shot taker so my suggestion is to take shots back at him. I did and I'm proud of it!! I also feel 100% better!! Tony I know u r reading this!! FCK U pussy!! U r a Chat God. Next time u threaten me Anthony do that shit in person or at least call tough guy never do it over the cpu!! Cuz u see what Im capable of!! No one rips me off and get's away with it!! Tony tell Vivian to get out from under your desk and do her job!!Comment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#122SBR JOHN It's Business as Usual over at the 5Dimes shop I see!! Tony is a wanna be thug who can suck my rooster!! He 100% is a shot taker so my suggestion is to take shots back at him. I did and I'm proud of it!! I also feel 100% better!! Tony I know u r reading this!! FCK U pussy!! U r a Chat God. Next time u threaten me Anthony do that shit in person or at least call tough guy never do it over the cpu!! Cuz u see what Im capable of!! No one rips me off and get's away with it!! Tony tell Vivian to get out from under your desk and do her job!!
We love to hate books or SBR Blackjack and whatever else maybe poker too. Sometimes a good ole bad beat cry helps. Funny thing is most if not all those having their cry will log into their 5Dimes account today and take a whack at Tony.Comment -
WVUSBR Sharp
- 02-01-08
- 417
#123No way does tony pay out 130-1 on Ohair if he wins and there was decent action on it.Comment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend
- 07-03-06
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Cuse0323BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-09-09
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#125That's why we have the forum. Take shots and get it all out...and now you feel better.
We love to hate books or SBR Blackjack and whatever else maybe poker too. Sometimes a good ole bad beat cry helps. Funny thing is most if not all those having their cry will log into their 5Dimes account today and take a whack at Tony.very true.
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shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-23-10
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#126nobs, when you said a few times in your first post "every other book", did you check betfair for what the market price actually is?Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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#127My posts in the other thread that I cross posted in this thread are directly related to Top 20 finishes having BETTER odds than Top 10 finishes.
To nobs point though, I guess we should just expect 5dimes to have enough liquidity to equal odds on players MATCHED bets on betfair for millions of dollars.
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TomGSBR Wise Guy
- 10-29-07
- 500
#128Sum up the overround for the entire event. If it falls below 100% then we can start discussing if 5Dimes is hanging intentionally bad lines.
It's not unusual for one book to feel a golfer has a 2% shot (+4900) and another book to differ by 1% and have him at +9900.Comment -
teaserpleaserBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-14-08
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#129lol @ 5crimesComment -
louisSBR Wise Guy
- 09-23-06
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#130Its hard to tell if Tony is taking a shot or not, because 5 Dimes often offers very very good lines with very little vigorish. Just because he is offering a good line doesn't necessarily mean he is taking a shot. For example with the NBA he will offer +250, when everyone else is at +200, but he has the other side at -270, where the other books have the other side at -300. In this case he is not taking a shot, but just not charging as much commission to book the bet as the others. One thing I do like about Tony and 5 dimes is that they do not charge a lot of vig and commission on their bets. They do offer great prices in order to attract action. People do not post on the board those great bets that Tony did not cancel, they just post the ones that he does so it makes it seem like he is cancelling a lot of bets, when in fact he is probably only cancelling a very small percentage of them. On the other hand, I can't be sure that when he notices a mistake that he fixes it immediately or whether he waits to see if it wins or not. But I think it is somewhat an exaggeration to say that all these future bets he is offering are shots at players. These are bets that do not have a clear market price, if he cancels one of these, we will have a good arguement that all of his futures prices were better than the other books so it must not have been mistakes.Comment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend
- 07-03-06
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#131There is no issue here. 5dimes offers a more competitively priced market on golf winners (and other futures markets) than other US facing books. They have always done this. The prices are in line with the actual market (betfair). Bookmaker-Greeks very large hold on these events is not the market.
The only golf disputes from 5dimes that have come up have been obvious errors.Comment -
JDUB07SBR MVP
- 10-09-08
- 1721
#132Man SBR investigative unit on it. This was a great find of information and it's all coming together now. So obvious that is what he is doing.Comment -
ArunShSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-24-07
- 6801
#133Problem with 5 Dimes is like the majority of books, most players end up losing or are very marginal winners, and only the people who wind up doing really well tend to be given bad treatment there. But a player winning is no excuse for being shady or treating them badly, that's one of the risks you have to take when you enter this business. Of course most don't experience it since they aren't targeted for it which is why 5 Dimes can be voted highly, but those who have experienced it know better as to what kind of operation 5 Dimes really is.Comment -
ForgetWallStreetSBR Sharp
- 04-27-07
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#134There is no issue here. 5dimes offers a more competitively priced market on golf winners (and other futures markets) than other US facing books. They have always done this. The prices are in line with the actual market (betfair). Bookmaker-Greeks very large hold on these events is not the market.
The only golf disputes from 5dimes that have come up have been obvious errors.Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
- 28672
#135Listen... I don't understand the craziness with this thread?!?!?! I've been dealing with 5dimes for about 5 years now. To all USA gamblers out there... there are few and far between books that cater to us. There are plenty of positives about 5dimes.
Ask for a courier check on a Monday. It's at your doorstep Thursday. Every single payout. 3k each and every time. I'm not trying to sound like a know it all... or that I win... blah blah blah... but I cashed in 9k in just under a month with 5Dimes at one point in March. It's like clock work... click on... HEY I WANT A CHECK... and bingo... check is at your door step. Do you guys even WIN???!!?!? I mean I'm not trying to sound like a self centered prick... but why is everyone bitching for in this thread???
I have an idea... let's bitch at the book that pays promptly and on time???
They have a reduce juice option. And... you can wager practically any amount you want... even though SBR lists them has recreational... they seem to be for the professional gambler.
You guys need to get off your rags. Seriously. The only horror stories that I've heard conclusive thus far were blatant errors on lines. TheGreek has had many errors in 10 years too... and if you pull that bullshit with Wally he'll kick your ass all over the place. I admit in my younger days... I took a shot at a bad line in 2002... and Wally gave me the best ass chewing over the phone in my life. But, he turned me into a better gambler. So you guys need to be men and stop being pus#$#s! Everyone knows your experience levels from your account. These guys aren't stupid. So, don't be an idiot taking chances on bogus lines.
And stop playing dumb wha? wha? wha? wha? through chat sessions or over the phone... Tony... Wally... they've been doing this when we were probably in our diapers. You want to beat them??? Then pick the right F'ing game... pick the right side... that's how you beat them. Stop wussing out. And if anyone says otherwise that they truly had a legit line... PM me and show me your evidence. I'm tired of these BS stories. Half of this sh#$ originated in the Casino games because of malfunctions not from prop bets.Comment -
9XLSBR High Roller
- 08-21-08
- 102
#136There is no issue here. 5dimes offers a more competitively priced market on golf winners (and other futures markets) than other US facing books. They have always done this. The prices are in line with the actual market (betfair). Bookmaker-Greeks very large hold on these events is not the market. The only golf disputes from 5dimes that have come up have been obvious errors.
OP is way off on this complaint. From what I can tell, 5Dimes copies their golfer odds from BetFair's market odds with a slight reduction. The OP brings to light how poor other books odds are on these events. Add up Bookmaker's hold on golf tournaments and futures and it's ridiculous.Comment -
BartmeisterRestricted User
- 09-10-10
- 412
#137When in doubt and just to be on the safe side, its probably better to ask Tony to ensure that his line is correct. It just seems too easy for any book to make a case for a "bad line", whether it was listed that way intentionally or not.Comment -
SawyerSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-01-09
- 7761
#138Never had a problem with 5Dimes..except limits. Good book imo. You won't have any problems if you don't pick bad/loose lines.Comment -
BartmeisterRestricted User
- 09-10-10
- 412
#139Hypothetically speaking, lets say the longshot did win, even though Tony's odds are in line with Betfair's, could he still claim a bad line, as it is way off compared to the lines at the Greek, Betjam, Bookmaker, Legends etc.?
I guess a better question would be, would SBR agree with him in this hypothetical case?Comment -
drunkenbeaverSBR High Roller
- 06-27-10
- 215
#140I'm a bit surprised at the astonishment from some posters in this thread. This shizzit is not regulated by our gov't.. hence the guys who run these gambling sites (sports, casino, whatever) can do whatever they want!
Seriously, what is anyone gonna do about it. Like the mods spit out a couple times here, 5 Dimes was voted by SBR posters as one of the best and there are still numerous complaint threads. I would hate to see the complaint list from a non-A book.
Seems like for the most part the top ones pay out a great percentage, but when they don't feel like it there's no police to make them give you your money if they don't want to.
You don't want to hear this, but this is why the US gov't says internet gambling is illegal. There's nothing they can do if these people screw you and there's no surefire way that you can guarantee you'll get what your owed.Comment
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