5 Dimes takes back $32K in casino winnings

[thegreen]

Tony: there will be no arbitration on this issue, there will be no concession on the behalf of this company other than to offer an apology for the time you wasted playing this game


This from an A+ rated book???????? SBR is just there PAWN for A+ rating...ENJOY your monthly check SBR!!!!

[topgame85]

Tony is a scum bag dirt ball little bitch, one day someone will whack him or Tyrone in a US federal pen will make him was his shit stained underwear with his tooth brush, until that day stay far away from 5dimes.

[griz]

this tony guy sounds like a fukkin scumbag

edit: i will never use 5 dimes for anything, and i will advise my degenerate gambler friends to stay far away as well

[The Bet Master]

When Taco Bell screws up your order they give you free Cinnamon Twists. 5DIMES Needs to at least do the equivalent of that.

[Br0nxer]

tony you are a fukkin skumbag

how sbr still lets you advertise here is beyond me

eat a dikk pal

[jboy4]

Two times within a week, not good for 5 Dimes. Who the hell is running this casino???????

[sideloaded]

no arbitration at A+ book? well I guess the writing is on the wall.

[8ArIvd5]

tackleberry, how did you know the game had a payout of 390%?

[Santo]

Tony: there will be no arbitration on this issue, there will be no concession on the behalf of this company other than to offer an apology for the time you wasted playing this game
Tony: we had one other player also play this game
Tony: he was also informed we will not accept arbitration from anyone or any company on this issu

Interesting position for an A+ book to take...

[Santo]

tackleberry, how did you know the game had a payout of 390%?

There are many calculators online.

[topgame85]

SBR has no choice but to stop allowing them to advertise here and a mandatory drop in rating to C- if not lower or else they lose as much credibility as 5D has

[Tackleberry]

tackleberry, how did you know the game had a payout of 390%?

I looked at the payout chart, thought something looked off and did some quick math.

[cyberinvestor]

Well, looks like Tony admits the error and no bot used. That is good for TB.

It appears Tony thinks SBR will rule against him so he is already saying he won't accept arbitration.

I am sorry to say that I don't see this working out for TB although it should. The question is what SBR will do when Tony goes against them as it appears he might.

[jesuseatsnubs]

sbr has no choice but to stop allowing them to advertise here and a mandatory drop in rating to c- if not lower or else they lose as much credibility as 5d has

amen

[Bill Dozer]

hohoho, anyone need reading glasses to read between double spaced paragraphs from bill? he's implying player will like not be paid b/c this will be chalked up to a system error.

fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice..

Some of you watch too much conspiracy tv.

Actually I was saying the opposite. The player is saying the payouts were listed and theorizes that the math was bad. That would be in his favor vs. a malfunction. But again, we don't know that 5D would agree with those facts or the math.

Sometimes posters will post all night and get fired up arguing when there isn't anything to argue yet. Sometimes the books fix their decision the next day and other times the book has a fact the player left out that makes the discussion irrelevant. If SBR were to fight for players at face value throwing heymakers, SBR wouldn't have their respect and the line of communication we have with almost all decent books.

5Dimes is known for having a ton of options in their sportsbook and in their casino, which they have more than one of... Especially with their unique ways of sports betting. Some of the disputes are semi-new to us and the industry and set a precedent. An example, the player who was able to bet all legs of a unique parlay multiple times to exceed limits over time. 5D was more than certain he knew he was circumventing but paid because his funds were at risk and their oversight. They paid another player $60,000 after mediation this year. The player never posted. 5D has never cheated a player. Even in the WWE wrestling prop's take-your-money-but-youre-acct-is-closed decision, it was fair.

We'll discuss with 5D as soon as possible.

[cyberinvestor]

When Taco Bell screws up your order they give you free Cinnamon Twists. 5DIMES Needs to at least do the equivalent of that.

[topgame85]

Interested to see the "official" SBR response

[thejrichshow85]

Ive had an account with them for two years now, never made a deposit there and after reading about this tony guy never will .

[The Bet Master]

You know it's a good comparison.

[Dark Horse]

Vegas rules apply. Player wins.

Bot rule was fair. No bot here. Just a faulty game. Not good.

[sideloaded]

We'll discuss with 5D as soon as possible.

Tony said sbr isn't allowed to arbitrate this case. How does that make you feel? Notice the last dispute Tony was glad the guy was going to sbr, now he has already cut that avenue off ahead of time. I wonder why?

[trixtrix]

tony's getting cocky! notice in the bot instance that tony heartily agrees to arbitration, yet in this instance tony refuses arbitration up front.

geez, what a position that puts sbr in, they might as well find it in the book's favour right now

[8ArIvd5]

Some of you watch too much conspiracy tv.

Actually I was saying the opposite. The player is saying the payouts were listed and theorizes that the math was bad. That would be in his favor vs. a malfunction. But again, we don't know that 5D would agree with those facts or the math.

Sometimes posters will post all night and get fired up arguing when there isn't anything to argue yet. Sometimes the books fix their decision the next day and other times the book has a fact the player left out that makes the discussion irrelevant. If SBR were to fight for players at face value throwing heymakers, SBR wouldn't have their respect and the line of communication we have with almost all decent books.

5Dimes is known for having a ton of options in their sportsbook and in their casino, which they have more than one of... Especially with their unique ways of sports betting. Some of the disputes are semi-new to us and the industry and set a precedent. An example, the player who was able to bet all legs of a unique parlay multiple times to exceed limits over time. 5D was more than certain he knew he was circumventing but paid because his funds were at risk and their oversight. They paid another player $60,000 after mediation this year.The player never posted. 5D has never cheated a player. Even in the WWE wrestling prop's take-your-money-but-youre-acct-is-closed decision, it was fair.

We'll discuss with 5D as soon as possible.

how much did they pay you for this blow job?

[Tackleberry]

$51.00 sent to my moneybookers account. They even stiffed me my 59 cents lol

[The Bet Master]

$51.00 sent to my moneybookers account. They even stiffed me my 59 cents lol

[jw]

I'm siding with player in this one .. I was with Tony on the last one ...
House is responsible for the error ... not the player.

[yokspot]

We'll discuss with 5D as soon as possible.

Tony's said there'll be no arbitration.

No way out of this one for 5Dimes. No 'bot, no bonus, no malfunction. Just incompetence.

Tony, if you'd bought a copy of WinPoker it'd have cost you $25, but you'd have saved $32,000. That's a net gain of $31,975.

Make a note to put it on your Christmas list.

[thejrichshow85]

$51.00 sent to my moneybookers account. They even stiffed me my 59 cents lol

unreal ! this should be a mandatory drop from an A to C or the ratings really dont mean shit.

[Dark Horse]

It means that the sportsbook is A+, but the casino is D. That's why they should be separate. Only reason not to keep them separate is if player funds in sportsbook are at risk because of casino bloopers. This is also why I've argued to actually USE the casino forum, for topics such as these, and move it up into a main forum slot. This is going to be the new battlefield. The sportsbooks are more or less sorted out, but the casinos are still very much a crapshoot.

[GmCrazy]

I looked at the payout chart, thought something looked off and did some quick math.

Why did you stop at just 32K when you knew you could of run it up to a $1,000,000 or more easily?

[Tackleberry]

Why did you stop at just 32K when you knew you could of run it up to a $1,000,000 or more easily?

A couple of reasons. Firstly I was very tired, needed to get to sleep as I start work early in the morning, but mostly I was aware that the situation I now find myself in was fairly likely. Why go for a number that you know will never get payed?

[bettilimbroke999]

Tackleberry,
We'll contact 5Dimes in the morning.

We know 5Dimes mismanaged their casino and corrected all of the payout odds following the bot dispute. However other non-bot winners on +ev were paid as normal. We'll find out how this game was addressed. We don't really want to comment on different scenarios until we hear all sides.
As with the SIA case a while back, when casino software has an error and pays players instead of deducts losses, or pays in excess of what is listed on a blackjack, that's a knock against the book for it's software but falls under a malfunction and is extremely rare. In the case it sounds like you are describing a game that operated correctly and the odds were set to something that could not end well for the house. We'll hear what they have to say and the reason for voiding the play.

I have a complaint, 5Dimes broke into my house and stole all my belongings, any chance SBR will rule against 5Dimes?

[ForgetWallStreet]

Why did you stop at just 32K when you knew you could of run it up to a $1,000,000 or more easily?

Because he knew he was taking a shot and wanted a non-zero chance of getting paid.

[The Bet Master]

I have a complaint, 5Dimes broke into my house and stole all my belongings, any chance SBR will rule against 5Dimes?

Your door was unlocked. They were Justified. Case Closed.

[SBRMAN23]

Wow this is wild I wish u the best hope u get paid