WARNING To Canadians About Rebate Wager: Problems With Withdrawals

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  • forsberg21
    SBR MVP
    • 09-23-09
    • 1851

    #1
    WARNING To Canadians About Rebate Wager: Problems With Withdrawals
    I wanted to share a recent problem that I had with withdrawing from Rebate Wager. Although this problem mainly concerns Canadians, it has the potential to cause problems for people outside of the US (depending on the banks in your country). So here's what happened:

    I recently made a withdrawal from Rebate Wager for $5000US. I received ** money orders totaling $5000US. Rebate Wager did an excellent job in getting these to me the next day, but this is where the problem starts.

    The next day, I go to my bank to deposit these into my US Dollar account. I'm told that since these money orders are drawn in US Dollars, they would have to apply the usual 30 business day hold on them. I'm sure Canadians are familiar with this when they deposit anything in US Dollars. I tell them that I need the money right away and that I'll try a check cashing place, like a Money Mart. I go to Money Mart and end up cashing $1500US in these money orders simply because I needed the money. I ended up receiving only $1391.83CDN for this $1500US money order. To cash a $1500US money order, I ended up paying exactly $134.34CDN in fees (foreign exchange fees + processing fees + flat rate conversion fee). That day, my $1500US was worth $1526.17 and I only got $134.34, which means I paid 8.8% in fees to cash my money. I ended up depositing the remaining $3500US in my US Dollar account. The hold will be taken off the funds in mid September.

    I contacted Rebate Wager about what had happened before all of this. I told them that I went to the bank and that the ** money orders they sent me were subject to a 30 business day hold. I asked Rebate Wager if I could send the money orders back to them and for Rebate Wager to pay me through another method. I was told that there was nothing they could do because they had already printed my name on the money orders and they now belonged to me. In light of these circumstances, I had asked Rebate Wager to compensate me the $134.34CDN that I lost in fees when I cashed in the money orders they sent me, which they refused to do. I didn't ask for anything on the remaining $3500US even though I won't have access to those funds for another 4 weeks.

    My analysis on this:

    If you are Canadian, you are very limited with withdrawal options at Rebate Wager. They don't use Insta Debit, Moneybookers or even regular checks. My only option were these ** money orders.

    With them you only have two options:

    1. Deposit them in your checking account and wait 30 business days for the funds to clear.
    2. Cash them in at a check cashing place and pay the 8.8% I did. This would have cost me $440US on my $5000 withdrawal.

    None of these appealed to me, but since I needed $1500 right away, I bit the bullet and took the hit of $134.

    Although this is a good book in terms of lines, customer service and website, the lack of withdrawal options, and the problems when you receive your withdrawal, are reasons why I would not use this sports book if I'm Canadian. This book completely limits your options of collecting your winnings if you are Canadian. The ** money orders in US Dollars cannot be cashed immediately in your bank account. Your only other option is to Money Mart them and pay high fees. You can either wait 30 business days to get your money, or pay almost 10% juice in order to do so. If you are from Europe or elsewhere, and your banks have the same policies as the ones in Canada, then you could be facing the same problems as me.

    My final thoughts:

    If you are Canadian, use another book. The headaches this has caused me is simply not worth it. There are plenty of other books out there that are just as good as Rebate Wager and even better. Their promise of getting paid in 24 hours doesn't apply to us.
  • KingKolzig
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    • 02-02-10
    • 5550

    #2
    u got paid quickly, not worth a thread.
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82838

      #3
      Good to know. Looks like they are more catered for US customers. But why are you playing there when Canadians have Pinnacle?
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      • big joe 1212
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-01-08
        • 19380

        #4
        Can't you use the GD card?
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        • forsberg21
          SBR MVP
          • 09-23-09
          • 1851

          #5
          Originally posted by KingKolzig
          u got paid quickly, not worth a thread.
          I haven't got paid yet. If you didn't read my post, my funds clear in mid September.
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          • forsberg21
            SBR MVP
            • 09-23-09
            • 1851

            #6
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            Good to know. Looks like they are more catered for US customers. But why are you playing there when Canadians have Pinnacle?
            I signed up for the 50% credit on losses promo. Didn't get anything out of it though.
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            • forsberg21
              SBR MVP
              • 09-23-09
              • 1851

              #7
              Originally posted by big joe 1212
              Can't you use the GD card?
              Those are only available to Americans.
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              • rfr3sh
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-07-09
                • 10229

                #8
                doesnt seem like RW's fault.
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                • brxbmbers42
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-26-10
                  • 4312

                  #9
                  Originally posted by forsberg21
                  I wanted to share a recent problem that I had with withdrawing from Rebate Wager. Although this problem mainly concerns Canadians, it has the potential to cause problems for people outside of the US (depending on the banks in your country). So here's what happened:

                  I recently made a withdrawal from Rebate Wager for $5000US. I received ** money orders totaling $5000US. Rebate Wager did an excellent job in getting these to me the next day, but this is where the problem starts.

                  The next day, I go to my bank to deposit these into my US Dollar account. I'm told that since these money orders are drawn in US Dollars, they would have to apply the usual 30 business day hold on them. I'm sure Canadians are familiar with this when they deposit anything in US Dollars. I tell them that I need the money right away and that I'll try a check cashing place, like a Money Mart. I go to Money Mart and end up cashing $1500US in these money orders simply because I needed the money. I ended up receiving only $1391.83CDN for this $1500US money order. To cash a $1500US money order, I ended up paying exactly $134.34CDN in fees (foreign exchange fees + processing fees + flat rate conversion fee). That day, my $1500US was worth $1526.17 and I only got $134.34, which means I paid 8.8% in fees to cash my money. I ended up depositing the remaining $3500US in my US Dollar account. The hold will be taken off the funds in mid September.

                  I contacted Rebate Wager about what had happened before all of this. I told them that I went to the bank and that the ** money orders they sent me were subject to a 30 business day hold. I asked Rebate Wager if I could send the money orders back to them and for Rebate Wager to pay me through another method. I was told that there was nothing they could do because they had already printed my name on the money orders and they now belonged to me. In light of these circumstances, I had asked Rebate Wager to compensate me the $134.34CDN that I lost in fees when I cashed in the money orders they sent me, which they refused to do. I didn't ask for anything on the remaining $3500US even though I won't have access to those funds for another 4 weeks.

                  My analysis on this:

                  If you are Canadian, you are very limited with withdrawal options at Rebate Wager. They don't use Insta Debit, Moneybookers or even regular checks. My only option were these ** money orders.

                  With them you only have two options:

                  1. Deposit them in your checking account and wait 30 business days for the funds to clear.
                  2. Cash them in at a check cashing place and pay the 8.8% I did. This would have cost me $440US on my $5000 withdrawal.

                  None of these appealed to me, but since I needed $1500 right away, I bit the bullet and took the hit of $134.

                  Although this is a good book in terms of lines, customer service and website, the lack of withdrawal options, and the problems when you receive your withdrawal, are reasons why I would not use this sports book if I'm Canadian. This book completely limits your options of collecting your winnings if you are Canadian. The ** money orders in US Dollars cannot be cashed immediately in your bank account. Your only other option is to Money Mart them and pay high fees. You can either wait 30 business days to get your money, or pay almost 10% juice in order to do so. If you are from Europe or elsewhere, and your banks have the same policies as the ones in Canada, then you could be facing the same problems as me.

                  My final thoughts:

                  If you are Canadian, use another book. The headaches this has caused me is simply not worth it. There are plenty of other books out there that are just as good as Rebate Wager and even better. Their promise of getting paid in 24 hours doesn't apply to us.
                  5000.00.
                  sure you did.
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                  • forsberg21
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-23-09
                    • 1851

                    #10
                    I'll give you the alternative version to this story, if Rebate Wager used Moneybookers, which I have found at every other book except this one.

                    1. Rebate Wager processes my withdrawal into Moneybookers, I get the funds in 1 day, 2 max.
                    2. I transfer money from Moneybookers into my US Dollar checking account. This takes 1-2 business days. I pay a $14 wire transfer fee.
                    3. I have the money sitting in my US Dollar checking account, without any holds. I can transfer it into Canadian Dollars anytime I like.

                    This whole process took a few days and cost me $14.

                    Compare this to my experience at Rebate Wager and it's obvious that no Canadian should ever deposit with Rebate Wager.
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                    • forsberg21
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-23-09
                      • 1851

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rfr3sh
                      doesnt seem like RW's fault.
                      How so? They sent me these ** money orders denominated in US Dollars, which aren't very liquid in Canada. I was left with 2 options:

                      1. Deposit them into my checking account, wait 30 business days for the hold to clear.
                      2. Cash them in at a Money Mart, etc. and pay 8.8% in fees to get my money.

                      I told them about these 2 options before I decided to pursue either of them and they didn't offer me any alternatives. Don't be a fool and put yourself in the same situation I found myself in.
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                      • brxbmbers42
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-26-10
                        • 4312

                        #12
                        Originally posted by forsberg21
                        How so? They sent me these ** money orders denominated in US Dollars, which aren't very liquid in Canada. I was left with 2 options:

                        1. Deposit them into my checking account, wait 30 business days for the hold to clear.
                        2. Cash them in at a Money Mart, etc. and pay 8.8% in fees to get my money.

                        I told them about these 2 options before I decided to pursue either of them and they didn't offer me any alternatives. Don't be a fool and put yourself in the same situation I found myself in.
                        Why did you need 1500 right away. You don't have 1500 in the bank and could replace it when check clears. Fukkin degenerate
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                        • Domer
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-21-10
                          • 1046

                          #13
                          30 day hold sounds like a canadian banking issue, and the fact that you needed the money right away is a personal issue. none of this has anything to do with the sportsbook. they got the funds to you in the manner you requested, and that is their only job.

                          and putting the words "WARNING" and "problem" in your thread title really needs to be edited out.
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                          • brxbmbers42
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-26-10
                            • 4312

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Domer
                            30 day hold sounds like a canadian banking issue, and the fact that you needed the money right away is a personal issue. none of this has anything to do with the sportsbook. they got the funds to you in the manner you requested, and that is their only job.

                            and putting the words "WARNING" and "problem" in your thread title really needs to be edited out.
                            couldnt agree more. this guy is a real fukkstick
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                            • forsberg21
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-23-09
                              • 1851

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Domer
                              30 day hold sounds like a canadian banking issue, and the fact that you needed the money right away is a personal issue. none of this has anything to do with the sportsbook. they got the funds to you in the manner you requested, and that is their only job. and putting the words "WARNING" and "problem" in your thread title really needs to be edited out.
                              Although it's completely irrelevant, I needed the money to buy a motorcycle. And Bronx, we had some issues in a thread in the past and this is why he is responding to this thread the way he is.

                              "Needing" this money has nothing to do with the problems that a Canadian faces when withdrawing from this book. This is the issue that I wanted to relay to my fellow Canadians here, that's all. I don't understand why I'm being called a "degenerate" and fukkkstick"? for trying to pass on valuable information.

                              The words WARNING and problem should be in the title simply because, if you were a Canadian wanting to make a deposit into Rebate Wager, isn't this something that you'd like to know before you made that deposit?
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                              • forsberg21
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-23-09
                                • 1851

                                #16
                                Originally posted by brxbmbers42
                                Why did you need 1500 right away. You don't have 1500 in the bank and could replace it when check clears. Fukkin degenerate
                                This is coming from a guy who wanted to put his entire Vegas bankroll on black to double it.
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                                • brxbmbers42
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                                  • 07-26-10
                                  • 4312

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by forsberg21
                                  This is coming from a guy who wanted to put his entire Vegas bankroll on black to double it.
                                  Entire vegas bankroll Im going out with 5k for a four day stay. i wanted to go with 6k. i like to have 1500 a day fuk around money u mush.
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                                  • mrmarket
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                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 4953

                                    #18
                                    The 30 day hold is standard procedure. You needed the money fast so you had to incur penalties. It was a choice you made. Had you waited for the cheque to clear it would not be a problem. Would it be good for them to offer more options for withdrawal for Canadians? Sure. But blaming Rebatewager at all is just sour grapes. If anything your complaint should be with the processors. With the current state of confusion regarding gaming regulations having any reliable withdrawal method is good enough IMO. Hopefully with regulation the processors will be able to reduce fees and competition will come into the market driving down prices. As is we are pretty much stuck with what exists.
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                                    • brxbmbers42
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                                      • 07-26-10
                                      • 4312

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mrmarket
                                      The 30 day hold is standard procedure. You needed the money fast so you had to incur penalties. It was a choice you made. Had you waited for the cheque to clear it would not be a problem. Would it be good for them to offer more options for withdrawal for Canadians? Sure. But blaming Rebatewager at all is just sour grapes. If anything your complaint should be with the processors. With the current state of confusion regarding gaming regulations having any reliable withdrawal method is good enough IMO. Hopefully with regulation the processors will be able to reduce fees and competition will come into the market driving down prices. As is we are pretty much stuck with what exists.
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                                      • tltaylor89
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-19-09
                                        • 19610

                                        #20
                                        Well here in America a moneyorder only takes 2 days to cash.(I call 30 days personal hell)
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                                        • big joe 1212
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-01-08
                                          • 19380

                                          #21
                                          30 days is ridiculous!

                                          they are making money off of your money! free 30 day loan for them!
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                                          • brxbmbers42
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                                            • 07-26-10
                                            • 4312

                                            #22
                                            I think this thread should be flagged. It's totally misleading. Sounds like a player issue. Not an RW issue. The WARNING is totally uncalled for.
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                                            • forsberg21
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-23-09
                                              • 1851

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by tltaylor89
                                              Well here in America a moneyorder only takes 2 days to cash.(I call 30 days personal hell)
                                              Originally posted by mrmarket
                                              The 30 day hold is standard procedure. You needed the money fast so you had to incur penalties. It was a choice you made. Had you waited for the cheque to clear it would not be a problem. Would it be good for them to offer more options for withdrawal for Canadians? Sure. But blaming Rebatewager at all is just sour grapes. If anything your complaint should be with the processors. With the current state of confusion regarding gaming regulations having any reliable withdrawal method is good enough IMO. Hopefully with regulation the processors will be able to reduce fees and competition will come into the market driving down prices. As is we are pretty much stuck with what exists.
                                              Good post market. There is a lot of problem with the processors in this industry, but having a company like Moneybookers in there alleviates many of these problems. I don't understand why Rebate Wager doesn't use them.

                                              The "sour grapes" part is to Rebate Wager sending me something that

                                              1. I couldn't cash in right away, or
                                              2. Had to pay a fee (8.8%) to cash.

                                              This isn't very reasonable, especially considering the fact that I approached them, notified them of my situation, and they did offer me anything to solve this problem. It's the same as me owing you $10,000 and paying you with a small brick of gold. Sure, they are basically worth the same thing, but, you're going to have to find somebody to buy it from you to get your cash which takes time (30 business day hold at bank), and, you're not going to get the full $10,000 for it (check cashing place).
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                                              • forsberg21
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                                                • 09-23-09
                                                • 1851

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by brxbmbers42
                                                Entire vegas bankroll Im going out with 5k for a four day stay. i wanted to go with 6k. i like to have 1500 a day fuk around money u mush.
                                                Didn't you ask posters on here about what the easiest way to turn $1000 into $2000 is?
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                                                • forsberg21
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-23-09
                                                  • 1851

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by tltaylor89
                                                  Well here in America a moneyorder only takes 2 days to cash.(I call 30 days personal hell)
                                                  Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                  30 days is ridiculous! they are making money off of your money! free 30 day loan for them!
                                                  Exactly, 30 days is a little excessive. It's only 30 days because it's in US funds, typically a Canadian Dollar check or money order would clear right away, like cash.
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                                                  • brxbmbers42
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by forsberg21
                                                    Didn't you ask posters on here about what the easiest way to turn $1000 into $2000 is?
                                                    Yes i sure did. What part dont you get. I have 5k for my trip. I want to go with 6k. 6k minus 5k is 1k. I was willing to risk a 1000 to try to get to my number i wanted to go with.
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                                                    • brxbmbers42
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                                                      • 07-26-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by forsberg21
                                                      Didn't you ask posters on here about what the easiest way to turn $1000 into $2000 is?
                                                      I dont play casino games. Wanted to know what game has the lowest house favor odds.
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                                                      • mrmarket
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                                                        • 01-26-10
                                                        • 4953

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by forsberg21
                                                        Good post market. There is a lot of problem with the processors in this industry, but having a company like Moneybookers in there alleviates many of these problems. I don't understand why Rebate Wager doesn't use them.

                                                        The "sour grapes" part is to Rebate Wager sending me something that

                                                        1. I couldn't cash in right away, or
                                                        2. Had to pay a fee (8.8%) to cash.

                                                        This isn't very reasonable, especially considering the fact that I approached them, notified them of my situation, and they did offer me anything to solve this problem. It's the same as me owing you $10,000 and paying you with a small brick of gold. Sure, they are basically worth the same thing, but, you're going to have to find somebody to buy it from you to get your cash which takes time (30 business day hold at bank), and, you're not going to get the full $10,000 for it (check cashing place).

                                                        I understand your frustration when it comes to paying the fees. Nobody likes to have money taken out of their pocket. It has happened to me before and will happen to me again. It is an unfortunate cost of business that is largely unavoidable (unless you use locals or have the option for lower cost processors).

                                                        But really there is no incentive for RebateWager not to offer more processor options unless you take the view that they are an unscrupulous book, which in my opinion they are not. For all we know they could be working on adding Moneybookers and similar processors at this moment. It would not affect your situation however as the addition would still exceed the time available to you. Taking things into account there is no other option but to eat the fees and move on. Yes it sucks. Yes RebateWager could possibly have had more processor options available. Yes to a lot of things but this is just the way it is.

                                                        You have to also consider that RebateWager is a business. Perhaps the cost of adding processors exceeds the service that would be provided to it's customers. They are primarily American so maybe they don't have enough Canucks, Euros and third world whatsits playing there to justify the additions. We will never know.

                                                        I think the best course would be to contact Rebatewager explain the fees you incurred and maybe they will refund a portion to your account. They may not but decrying their operation as cut rate is not the best way to proceed especially when the crux of your complain lies with processors and not the book itself.
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #29
                                                          Banking laws are tough and frustrating

                                                          They did pay you very fast though

                                                          Mr Market summed it up very well
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                                                          • forsberg21
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-23-09
                                                            • 1851

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mrmarket
                                                            I think the best course would be to contact Rebatewager explain the fees you incurred and maybe they will refund a portion to your account. They may not but decrying their operation as cut rate is not the best way to proceed especially when the crux of your complain lies with processors and not the book itself.
                                                            I tried, no dice. They weren't willing to refund me a single penny, despite not offering me anything beyond this money order after I informed them of the situation I was in.

                                                            Here's a question, after reading the initial post in this thread, would you deposit money in this book if you were Canadian? Would you deposit money into a book where you'd have to wait an additional 30 business days to get your money after you thought you got your money, or, have to pay an 8.8% "processing fee" on your withdrawal? This is the information that I want to pass onto Canadians.
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                                                            • brxbmbers42
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 07-26-10
                                                              • 4312

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by forsberg21
                                                              I tried, no dice. They weren't willing to refund me a single penny, despite not offering me anything beyond this money order after I informed them of the situation I was in.

                                                              Here's a question, after reading the initial post in this thread, would you deposit money in this book if you were Canadian? Would you deposit money into a book where you'd have to wait an additional 30 business days to get your money after you thought you got your money, or, have to pay an 8.8% "processing fee" on your withdrawal? This is the information that I want to pass onto Canadians.
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                                                              • mrmarket
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-26-10
                                                                • 4953

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by forsberg21
                                                                I tried, no dice. They weren't willing to refund me a single penny, despite not offering me anything beyond this money order after I informed them of the situation I was in.

                                                                Here's a question, after reading the initial post in this thread, would you deposit money in this book if you were Canadian? Would you deposit money into a book where you'd have to wait an additional 30 business days to get your money after you thought you got your money, or, have to pay an 8.8% "processing fee" on your withdrawal? This is the information that I want to pass onto Canadians.
                                                                It would depend on my goals. If I was a small time recreational player I would stick to Pinnacle. If I had money and was recreational but wanted a % of my losses I would play at RebateWager. If I was sharp and arbing with the least probable side at the book to take advantage of the loss rebate I would play there. It is very hard to make generalized recommendations.

                                                                As i previously said the 30 day hold on foreign cheques is not unique to RebateWager. It is mandated by the Canadian banking system. You will incur it if you receive money via foreign cheque from other books/pokersites/whatever. 8.8% fee is also not charged by RebateWager but the processor itself. Beyond not offering more withdrawal options the crux of your complaint about fees remains with the processors.

                                                                And I know I'm probably pissing you off right now because you're pissed off. I would be pissed off at myself too if I had some shmuck telling me these things after I lost a good chunk of change. I'm not going to add anything more but I think you should take a few days to cool down and re-evaluate then.
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                                                                • forsberg21
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-23-09
                                                                  • 1851

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by mrmarket
                                                                  It is mandated by the Canadian banking system. 8.8% fee is also not charged by RebateWager but the processor itself. I'm not going to add anything more but I think you should take a few days to cool down and re-evaluate then.
                                                                  This isn't true actually, it's just a defensive procedure that banks use, most of the time. A friend of mine worked as a teller at my bank once, the Bank of Montreal, and only put 5 day holds on my US checks/money orders. Even when I deposited the $3500, the teller told me that it wouldn't have been subject to a 30 day hold if I had a history of depositing these particular ** money orders, which I didn't. They don't get those very often, and when they do, they have to be cautious. I understand where they're coming from.

                                                                  As for the 8.8% fee I paid to cash my money, you're right, it's not charged by Rebate Wager directly. But, by sending me these ** money orders, and not giving me any other cashout options, I had no choice but to incur the fee. Although they themselves didn't charge me this fee, they subjected me to it due to the nature of the fees associated with cashing them.
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                                                                  • forsberg21
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-23-09
                                                                    • 1851

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Here's an update to my situation at Rebate Wager:

                                                                    My account has now been closed by David at Rebate Wager. I suppose this is because I'm not a recreational player and that I took them for a few dimes. Here are two quotes that Blackie made through other posts:

                                                                    "I have made a lot of money over the years following a model I believe in." - Kick out the good players, keep the bad ones
                                                                    "Our primary focus at RW is recreational players with an emphasis on major US sports" - We'll close your account if you've made money off us

                                                                    Well I have to explain the whole story to be fair here. My account was getting closed after I told David at Rebate Wager that I was going to post my story at the SBR Forums. After I told him this, he told me that my account would be closed and that whatever funds I had in there would be sent to a ** to pick up.

                                                                    This is another reason why this industry should be regulated. You have guys like this that can close accounts at will, that aren't accountable to anyone, that can steal your money if they really wanted to and you could do nothing about it (Bet911 Robert) and in my case, pay you in illiquid money orders that take you time and money to cash while they deem that their payout obligation to be complete. Just because Rebate Wager has a banner at the top of this page doesn't mean they are a good book. As a Canadian, take your business elsewhere. There are plenty of superior books out there like Pinnacle, The Greek and Betfair. Don't put yourself in the same position I found myself because of Rebate Wager.
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                                                                    • pavyracer
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                                      • 82838

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by forsberg21
                                                                      Here's an update to my situation at Rebate Wager:

                                                                      My account has now been closed by David at Rebate Wager. I suppose this is because I'm not a recreational player and that I took them for a few dimes. Here are two quotes that Blackie made through other posts:

                                                                      "I have made a lot of money over the years following a model I believe in." - Kick out the good players, keep the bad ones
                                                                      "Our primary focus at RW is recreational players with an emphasis on major US sports" - We'll close your account if you've made money off us

                                                                      Well I have to explain the whole story to be fair here. My account was getting closed after I told David at Rebate Wager that I was going to post my story at the SBR Forums. After I told him this, he told me that my account would be closed and that whatever funds I had in there would be sent to a ** to pick up.

                                                                      This is another reason why this industry should be regulated. You have guys like this that can close accounts at will, that aren't accountable to anyone, that can steal your money if they really wanted to and you could do nothing about it (Bet911 Robert) and in my case, pay you in illiquid money orders that take you time and money to cash while they deem that their payout obligation to be complete. Just because Rebate Wager has a banner at the top of this page doesn't mean they are a good book. As a Canadian, take your business elsewhere. There are plenty of superior books out there like Pinnacle, The Greek and Betfair. Don't put yourself in the same position I found myself because of Rebate Wager.
                                                                      So basically this industry is fraud. If you lose they welcome you with open arms. If you win they boot you. So in their world a recreational gambler is a gambler who likes to lose their money and anyone carrying a balance and requesting a payout is a pro gambler.

                                                                      And then you wonder why this industry has negative growth. These people if they run any other business with the way they run their unregulated books they will go belly up in less than a year.
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