Casino game payouts 110% - what to do

**skrtelfan** · 12-06-09, 11:14 AM

The problem is that it's way too easy for a book to freeroll a player in this situation. Say a book has 9/6 jacks or better video poker and pays 8000 coins on a royal instead of 4000. That would change the edge from roughly -5% to the house to roughly +1.5% to the player. Royal flushes are rare enough that it would be easy for the book to still win in the short term. So they could simply change the payout, and when people notice the higher payout and play it, if the players have a net loss, they can either decide at some point to "fix" it and keep their winnings, but if the players win, they can claim "software error" and void all the winnings.

**Santo** · 12-06-09, 11:46 AM

I'm quite certain I read a case in a real casino where somebody hit a jackpot, the casino told her it was a malfunction and didn't pay...

**skrtelfan** · 12-06-09, 12:04 PM

That happens all the time in casinos. Here's a recent one from last month: http://www.wftv.com/news/21510336/detail.html

**vitalyo** · 12-06-09, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

That happens all the time in casinos. Here's a recent one from last month: http://www.wftv.com/news/21510336/detail.html

Originally posted by Santo

I'm quite certain I read a case in a real casino where somebody hit a jackpot, the casino told her it was a malfunction and didn't pay...

What are you guys drunk ?This early in the morning .Good for you

We are talking about 5 K not 166 mill at one shot . I did mention the situation above so go back and read again .

As i said before.

Originally posted by vitalyo

Now if the player got paid 10 to 1 where the odds are 2 to 1 a different story .
Or where the max payout $1000 but machine if flushing 50K .I would agree not paying winnings.

I could be wrong in my assessments .
My question is for Santo and skrtelfan . Two of you guys do you trust Beted casino? Are you willing to try them out with a real cash. I bet you don't.
And to my previous response .Read it again .

**reno cool** · 12-06-09, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Waiting4Godot

Sounds like the player intentionally exploited a flaw he discovered.

How could a player be sure a flaw has been found? Even in a -ev situation, there are going to be runs of the player winning. How many games would you have to play before you could be sure there was a game flaw of 110%?

That is not the way one would discover a flaw.
If this is Beted we already know it's a shit book. I hope the player gets paid, He doesn't sound like a pro anyway. It would certainly feel like an injustice from he's view point.

**skrtelfan** · 12-06-09, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by vitalyo

What are you guys drunk ?This early in the morning .Good for you

We are talking about 5 K not 166 mill at one shot . I did mention the situation above so go back and read again .

As i said before.

I could be wrong in my assessments .
My question is for Santo and skrtelfan . Two of you guys do you trust Beted casino? Are you willing to try them out with a real cash. I bet you don't.
And to my previous response .Read it again .

Is English not your native language?

**vitalyo** · 12-06-09, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

Is English not your native language?

Nice of you to notice that English is not my first language .

Also my credit to you "Way to avoid direct question"

Your comments are very entertaining

Originally posted by skrtelfan

That happens all the time in casinos. Here's a recent one from last month: http://www.wftv.com/news/21510336/detail.html Today 11:46 AM

Drunk was a compliment to you .

**tomcowley** · 12-06-09, 06:17 PM

We have yet to be told if the game was paying at the posted payouts.

**Bobbysim** · 12-06-09, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by tomcowley

We have yet to be told if the game was paying at the posted payouts.

Yes...The game was paying at the posted payouts.

**tomcowley** · 12-06-09, 07:19 PM

Then the book has a claim/lawsuit against the vendor and no claim against the player. It's several levels of retardation on BetEd's part, not a malfunction, software error, or overpay. Vegas doesn't get to jack winnings when they offer a +EV casino game through their own negligence/stupidity.

**JerseyShop101** · 12-06-09, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by tomcowley

Then the book has a claim/lawsuit against the vendor and no claim against the player. It's several levels of retardation on BetEd's part, not a malfunction, software error, or overpay. Vegas doesn't get to jack winnings when they offer a +EV casino game through their own negligence/stupidity.

Good point.

Also, I thought most casino vendors get a percentage of the players net casino losses anyway. And if thats the case here, Beted could just take the relatively small 5k amount out of the vendors commission and pay the player.

**Peep** · 12-06-09, 11:35 PM

Book should pay.

They'll get it back and more long run. Anyone dumb enough to play a casino online will send it all back.

**GETMONEYKID** · 12-07-09, 04:16 AM

i think the "glitch" spread to the sbr casino

you've been warned

**andywend** · 12-07-09, 04:53 AM

You can always count on BetEd to come up with new and exciting ways to steal money from players.

Anyone who reads this forum would have to have their head examined to continue to play there.

**JerseyShop101** · 12-07-09, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by GETMONEYKID

i think the "glitch" spread to the sbr casino

you've been warned

Filll out the SBR complaint form

**Santo** · 12-07-09, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by vitalyo

What are you guys drunk ?This early in the morning .Good for you

We are talking about 5 K not 166 mill at one shot . I did mention the situation above so go back and read again .

As i said before.

I could be wrong in my assessments .
My question is for Santo and skrtelfan . Two of you guys do you trust Beted casino? Are you willing to try them out with a real cash. I bet you don't.
And to my previous response .Read it again .

I don't play in any online casinos these days. Back in the 5x bonus days sure I'd have played there. I don't partake in -EV activities.

**Thremp** · 12-07-09, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by tomcowley

Then the book has a claim/lawsuit against the vendor and no claim against the player. It's several levels of retardation on BetEd's part, not a malfunction, software error, or overpay. Vegas doesn't get to jack winnings when they offer a +EV casino game through their own negligence/stupidity.

Std.

**king** · 12-08-09, 03:58 AM

How do we even know BetEd is telling the truth about a software glitch. Maybe they are bull shitting so they don't have to pay. They act like they don't have $5000 to payout. Why would they notice a big winning also on casino. It's like they know something messed up in their software that they won't say they should of won 70-80% of the time.

What I want to know is did everybody who played casino got their funds frozen or just this person. I want to know why its not random with BetEd but more of a percentage. BetEd now is telling us their casino is rigged. Thanks for telling us the casino is rigged so I can stay far away. Also if any BetEd people are reading this pay the player already and stop acting like you can't afford to payout. Most casino can afford this.

**patswin** · 12-08-09, 08:52 AM

Pay the player and fix the software,

**patswin** · 12-08-09, 08:54 AM

stay far away from their flash blackjack games