All Broker, Agent and Offshore Exchange Issues

[Zeus1988]

This thread is very helpful! It gives idea to a bettor like me who to trust or not with our money! Lol

how about bookielink? Do they allow players like me to use vpn without no issue?

[blakey008]

To those who have BetinAsia accounts......does Betinasia allow VPN use? I ask because some online books don't allow it and withhold payouts for using VPN.
I use VPN because I'm retired and I travel the world extensively spending few weeks in different countries each time, and was wondering if bet brokers like BetinAsia have no issues paying out to their players using VPN.
Thanks in advance.

I would stay away from betinasia If I were you! They are not helpful and they like to scam people. So many bad reviews about them.

[Do@u1998]

I would stay away from betinasia If I were you! They are not helpful and they like to scam people. So many bad reviews about them.

Thanks for this! You gave me the idea not to consider betinasia. Im currently using PIWI247 and so far, I haven't had any problems with them.

[blakey008]

Thanks for this! You gave me the idea not to consider betinasia. Im currently using PIWI247 and so far, I haven't had any problems with them.

Hopefully, you won't have any issues with PIWI247. Aside from BetInAsia, they have been quite controversial lately, based on some recent threads. You can also try Bookielink—they've been the best for me so far!

[blakey008]

how about bookielink? Do they allow players like me to use vpn without no issue?

Yes! They allow the use of a VPN. That was one of the things I made sure to ask them before opening my account since I travel a lot.

[himjain2]

Think most people that are betting 3k euros on a game are aware if it is a winner or not before they start firing off the acquired balance on other bets. You were betting with monopoly money, no one is going to pay you for "wins" you acquired with non-existent funds..

As I said above, I placed the bet and went to sleep only to wake up and see more money in my account, which usually would mean I won the bet which of course wasnt the case this time.. But you are missing the main point here.. All this while I had over 10k in my orbit account.. If I had lost that 'monopoly money bet, they would have happily deducted money from my orbit account..

Anyways, no license is a big NO-NO for me.. they can run away with money anytime they want.. I dont think they will ever pay me out for this case, but this shall act as a fair warning to anyone trying to open an account with them.

[Zeus1988]

Did they advertised to people that they are licensed ?

[himjain2]

Did they advertised to people that they are licensed ?

Yes, it was on their website until I raised a complaint and got this as a reply: https://www.isleofmangsc.com/gamblin...ling-websites/

[blakey008]

Yes, it was on their website until I raised a complaint and got this as a reply: https://www.isleofmangsc.com/gamblin...ling-websites/

It means they intentionally did that to cheat.
Is there any new updates about your issue?

[blakey008]

Does sportodyssey still exist nowadays?

[Zeus1988]

Does sportodyssey still exist nowadays?

Is that a bookie? Or a broker?

[Zeus1988]

Does anyone here heard about oddslay?
they said it’s an exchange that offers horse racing option. Would like to get some insights

[blakey008]

Hello fellas,

Do you know any broker who offers good bonuses?

[Moneygreen]

Does anyone here heard about oddslay?
they said it’s an exchange that offers horse racing option. Would like to get some insights

Odds lay? Is that a sportsbook or exchange?

[Renat75]

I started betting at Orbit two months ago through one of the preferred Orbit agents. Everything was fine until this week, had already one quick withdrawal. But this week with a much larger withdrawal they don't process it saying betfair conduct a "routine check" of my bets and until they complete this check I can't get my money. Thats already very strange cause I bet only on big markets, fund passing or match-fixing impossible in those markets. But okay, if they want to check they can do it but do it quickly. The question is how long can they hold on to client's money without any reason? Several days, a week, a month? Btw my account is not suspended I continue to bet as much as I want. But I can't withdraw at the moment,

[Optional]

I started betting at Orbit two months ago through one of the preferred Orbit agents. Everything was fine until this week, had already one quick withdrawal. But this week with a much larger withdrawal they don't process it saying betfair conduct a "routine check" of my bets and until they complete this check I can't get my money. Thats already very strange cause I bet only on big markets, fund passing or match-fixing impossible in those markets. But okay, if they want to check they can do it but do it quickly. The question is how long can they hold on to client's money without any reason? Several days, a week, a month? Btw my account is not suspended I continue to bet as much as I want. But I can't withdraw at the moment,

If it's really Betfair wanting to review the account it may not happen until after the weekend but it should be only a day or two.

[Renat75]

If it's really Betfair wanting to review the account it may not happen until after the weekend but it should be only a day or two.

I ordered a withdrawal on Wednesday morning so they already "reviewed" it for 3 days. But okay, I can wait a couple of days more

[Renat75]

Today I chatted with them again. "Please be advised that the check will take a while". "There is no timeframe for the routine check, that's why its advisable to wait for our updates." It seems they think that they can hold on to client's money forever...

[satana]

Does Smarkets have a white label or whatever they are called Pinnaclesports platform?

[Renat75]

New developments, I ve received an email from Bet-Football, thats the main part:
"However, we still require the following outstanding documents to complete the verification process:Proof of Source of Funds (e.g. recent payslip, bank statement showing regular income, etc.)Proof of Source of Wealth (e.g. investment portfolio, inheritance documentation, business ownership records, etc.) Please note that screenshots or statements from other gambling platforms, by themselves, do not constitute valid proof of source of funds. These may be submitted in addition to primary financial documents but cannot be accepted on their own."
I don't understand honestly what they want, my source of funds is betting, I've won at betfair, withdrew by skrill and deposited at Bet-Football. I've sent them screenshots with a proof of that. I don't have "regular income" this high, when I started betting my first deposits were like 1k or even less.

[DynamiteLarry64]

New developments, I ve received an email from Bet-Football, thats the main part:
"However, we still require the following outstanding documents to complete the verification process:Proof of Source of Funds (e.g. recent payslip, bank statement showing regular income, etc.)Proof of Source of Wealth (e.g. investment portfolio, inheritance documentation, business ownership records, etc.) Please note that screenshots or statements from other gambling platforms, by themselves, do not constitute valid proof of source of funds. These may be submitted in addition to primary financial documents but cannot be accepted on their own."
I don't understand honestly what they want, my source of funds is betting, I've won at betfair, withdrew threw skrill and deposited at Bet-Football. I've sent them screenshots with a proof of that. I don't have "regular income" this high, when I started betting my first deposits were like 1k or even less.

Did you deposit a 5digit amount to them and then they requested a source of funds from you?

I can't see any agent requesting SoW for 1-2k deposits.

[Renat75]

Did you deposit a 5digit amount to them and then they requested a source of funds from you?

I can't see any agent requesting SoW for 1-2k deposits.

Yes, 5digit amounts

[Renat75]

Its already 8 days since Bet-football don't process my withdrawal. And btw, yesterday same question (source of funds) was asked by Pinnacle. I've submitted the same documents and in several hours got approval.
Subject: Message from Pinnacle
Dear Renat,
Thank you for submitting the requested source of funds documents. These have been reviewed and verified.
Please be aware that the verification is an ongoing process and we might need to request from you further documentation in the future. If so, we will notify you in advance

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Its already 8 days since Bet-football don't process my withdrawal. And btw, yesterday same question (source of funds) was asked by Pinnacle. I've submitted the same documents and in several hours got approval.
Subject: Message from Pinnacle
Dear Renat,
Thank you for submitting the requested source of funds documents. These have been reviewed and verified.
Please be aware that the verification is an ongoing process and we might need to request from you further documentation in the future. If so, we will notify you in advance

That is a good indication that betfair should be happy with your KYC data too.

Be aware that there is some possibility that this is just the third party agent looking for an excuse to grab those funds.

[Renat75]

At this stage its not just a "possibility" its absolutely clear they don't want to pay me. I've spoken with betfair yesterday, they are happy with my KYC data and categorically deny that this has anything to do with them. But bet-football still replies "betfair routine check", "no timeframe"

[Renat75]

Btw is there any difference between www.orbitxch.com and www.orbitexch.com?

[Optional]

At this stage its not just a "possibility" its absolutely clear they don't want to pay me. I've spoken with betfair yesterday, they are happy with my KYC data and categorically deny that this has anything to do with them. But bet-football still replies "betfair routine check", "no timeframe"

You're going to need to provide the documentation Betfootball have asked for now.

Try to follow the suggestions I PMed you on how to approach that. Don't ask betfootball any more questions about what you can send or who is asking for it. Just send them what you think proves what we discussed and wait until they come back to you before deciding the next move.

It would be good if you can get onto OrbitX and make the same request of them as you did with betfair about confirming if They or Betfair are demanding this as Betfootball claim.

[Renat75]

I've already sent them all the documents as I said. And anyway they claim that withdrawal is not processed cause of "routine check by betfair "

[Optional]

I've already sent them all the documents as I said. And anyway they claim that withdrawal is not processed cause of "routine check by betfair "

I thought they had rejected your SoW proof from other accounts.

What do Arbusers and Bitcointalk mods suggest from here?

[Renat75]

I thought they had rejected your SoW proof from other accounts.

What do Arbusers and Bitcointalk mods suggest from here?

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when did the message about no screenshots from other bookmakers happen? before or after you last submitted your info?

[Renat75]

when did the message about no screenshots from other bookmakers happen? before or after you last submitted your info?

Before