yea well when you are nice and provide him proof he runs all over you.
I have handed him everything he needs and he still screwed the player.
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larisa
SBR Rookie
06-30-09
7
#212
man... I don't think you'll get your money back
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larisa
SBR Rookie
06-30-09
7
#213
by money I mean the profit from your winnings
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larisa
SBR Rookie
06-30-09
7
#214
What if Mel would lost the deposit? Would the bookmaker had return the deposit then?
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melinsurance79
SBR High Roller
06-23-09
207
#215
that would be a big fat no.
I have asked that already.
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bettman
SBR High Roller
05-06-09
144
#216
I just read this whole thread.......I have a cousin just like this....will have scamming intentions but will cry to authorities if (she feels scammed first) in her eyes. So i dont even communicate with that side of the family no more....Sorry i just went through a similar situation with me acting as the Book in this thread and my cousin is mel..
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melinsurance79
SBR High Roller
06-23-09
207
#217
oh do ya. ok. yeah that makes sense as I dump 5-12k a month in the industry you jackass
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melinsurance79
SBR High Roller
06-23-09
207
#218
the authorities? you just SOUND like a pussy.
I am taking this way beyond that. thanks Justin for doing your due dillegence even with the evidence in your lap. youi
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#219
Damn this is a funny thread, actually its a crackpot filled thread, the only thing i am surprised at is that the forum nutjob has not been all over this thread.
How are you btw tomcowley?
Melinsurance sorry to say you are plain and simply a fruitcake, your full of waffle and your behaviour in this thread is well bizarre.
But being a fruitcake, nutter and etc does not mean that SIA should not pay.
If the nut has the documents that ahve been asked for and they are genuine then they need to pay and those emails with apologises for wrong templates and so on is bull.
SIA said he/she couple could bet and would need to provide the documents, she/he did that, so i dont see the issue anymore.
But please carry on, i am getting my popcorn, beer and will sit back and see this thread continue, blinding entertainment from some seriously deranged individuals on both sides of this arguement but the she man takes the biscuit.
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#220
Originally posted by melinsurance79
the authorities? you just SOUND like a pussy.
I am taking this way beyond that. thanks Justin for doing your due dillegence even with the evidence in your lap. youi
Let me get this straight:
Your wife uses your debit card. You personally have a charge back against SIA. Your wife FORGES a debit card, writing her name over yours to make it look like hers. It's a third party deposit, which SIA CLEARLY doesn't allow.
If you lose, the odds of a ********** (second time) are high.
Regardless, your wife continues telling SIA that the card is hers. She has her own card, but misplaced it. So they send you forms to verify HER CARD. But she can't - she doesn't have one in her name, only the FORGERY she made. You told both SIA and me that she had one. She didn't - this was verified with the bank. I wasted hours of time on that one factual fabrication.
SIA tries to sort out the issue of your wife's debit card. You sent me 54 emails (and counting) in this dispute. You ignore questions that are relevant, and constantly try to raise new issues that have no bearing on the dispute. If you did the same thing to SIA, it's no wonder you got some weird responses. I'm a lawyer and trained to filter through crap. If you have a low level CS hack, who knows how they'll respond to carpet bombing emails?
So back to the main question: should you get paid? Simple answer - no, even if you weren't taking a shot at (win- pay me lose - charge back). I asked for evidence repeatedly that might help you. You ignored my requests (or didn't have it), and responded with random things that were irrelevant to the dispute.
Disputes are won and lost on facts. The facts were simple to assess, except for all the crazy unsupported accusations you made. You repeatedly made claims you could not prove. You repeatedly misquoted SIA, misquoted me, misquoted OSGA and misquoted SIA emails. When I told you that an email didn't say what you quoted, you ignored me instead of addressing the issue - repeatedly.
SIA has handled this dispute fairly, and been much more patient than I would have if I were in their shoes.
If you're dissatisfied with my ruling, I encourage you to go to other forums for help.
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tomcowley
SBR MVP
10-01-07
1129
#221
This is simple. Screenshot the email where they said the deposit would OK. Black out the names. Post the 3rd-party form that they sent you. Black out the names. Post a bank log showing the second SIA charge ("going back into your account"). Black out the personal stuff. You're being a gigantic whiny bitch instead of showing the evidence I asked for 150 posts ago- and my guess is there's a reason for that- that you've misrepresented everything supposedly in your favor, and I'm also betting that you've completely fabricated the last SIA charge. Prove it or STFU.
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#222
Originally posted by Justin7
Let me get this straight:
Your wife uses your debit card. You personally have a charge back against SIA. Your wife FORGES a debit card, writing her name over yours to make it look like hers. It's a third party deposit, which SIA CLEARLY doesn't allow.
If you lose, the odds of a ********** (second time) are high.
Regardless, your wife continues telling SIA that the card is hers. She has her own card, but misplaced it. So they send you forms to verify HER CARD. But she can't - she doesn't have one in her name, only the FORGERY she made. You told both SIA and me that she had one. She didn't - this was verified with the bank. I wasted hours of time on that one factual fabrication.
SIA tries to sort out the issue of your wife's debit card. You sent me 54 emails (and counting) in this dispute. You ignore questions that are relevant, and constantly try to raise new issues that have no bearing on the dispute. If you did the same thing to SIA, it's no wonder you got some weird responses. I'm a lawyer and trained to filter through crap. If you have a low level CS hack, who knows how they'll respond to carpet bombing emails?
So back to the main question: should you get paid? Simple answer - no, even if you weren't taking a shot at (win- pay me lose - charge back). I asked for evidence repeatedly that might help you. You ignored my requests (or didn't have it), and responded with random things that were irrelevant to the dispute.
Disputes are won and lost on facts. The facts were simple to assess, except for all the crazy unsupported accusations you made. You repeatedly made claims you could not prove. You repeatedly misquoted SIA, misquoted me, misquoted OSGA and misquoted SIA emails. When I told you that an email didn't say what you quoted, you ignored me instead of addressing the issue - repeatedly.
SIA has handled this dispute fairly, and been much more patient than I would have if I were in their shoes.
If you're dissatisfied with my ruling, I encourage you to go to other forums for help.
Good job Justin.
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tomcowley
SBR MVP
10-01-07
1129
#223
Originally posted by betpartners
Damn this is a funny thread, actually its a crackpot filled thread, the only thing i am surprised at is that the forum nutjob has not been all over this thread.
How are you btw tomcowley?
Lol. I was typing when you posted this. Check back before the thread went nuts for the 20th time, I'm way back there.
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#224
Originally posted by tomcowley
Lol. I was typing when you posted this. Check back before the thread went nuts for the 20th time, I'm way back there.
I did mate but when the fruitcake went wild i was sure you would sustain your presence but you let me down, but i see you made an impact at the end here so i am content now
Justin7 what about the email that says they accept 3rd party deposits, is that a forgery then? genuine question.
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themajormt
SBR MVP
07-30-08
3964
#225
Justin I think you summed it up correctly and I have to agree... I mentioned before that the player keeps bringing up new claims or dwelling on irrelevant ones. We all appreciate your work, this is not even close to being an easy situation and there definitely has been facts left out and that had to be intentional. The player is lucky to have received the initial deposit back IMO.
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#226
Originally posted by betpartners
I did mate but when the fruitcake went wild i was sure you would sustain your presence but you let me down, but i see you made an impact at the end here so i am content now
Justin7 what about the email that says they accept 3rd party deposits, is that a forgery then? genuine question.
The email given to me didn't say that. When I pointed this out and asked for one that did, there was no response to that question.
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#227
Originally posted by Justin7
The email given to me didn't say that. When I pointed this out and asked for one that did, there was no response to that question.
Well based on that info case closed.
BUT
You jsut know the she man is coming back dont you, at some point you may have to click that ban button, filter your emails and be done with this.
But if you are so inclined let it run, it is entertainment at least
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TheBeautifulGame
SBR MVP
08-26-08
1286
#228
Originally posted by noyb
in other words: the book basically got a freeroll from the start.. first actively solliciting business from a customer who had a shady history, then doing absolutely nothing while the player is betting, and only call foul when the player requests a payout. for someone who claims to always side with the player, your verdict is remarkably one-sided towards what the player has done wrong and not a word about the book doing absolutely nothing until the player actually became a liability to them.
You're right, I did sound like I was very one sided but I did not mean to . From reading the entire thread, I just feel there is a lot that we're not been told.
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#229
The book does not come out of this smelling of roses either but in all fairness look at the OP, seriously weres the credibility?
Talk about hand it on a plate to the book
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themajormt
SBR MVP
07-30-08
3964
#230
I agree BP... The book is definitely at fault along the way too but you can't believe either side because the player has backtracked multiple times and it seems the book has contradicted itself numerous times as well... The double hit on the card was not addressed by the book either? They claimed it was a scam???
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AimingHigh
SBR Wise Guy
06-12-09
670
#231
Originally posted by themajormt
I agree BP... The double hit on the card was not addressed by the book either? They claimed it was a scam???
Perhaps Mel just made that up to make the book look bad? There are certainly enough fabrications by her/him for me to believe that's also possible.
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melinsurance79
SBR High Roller
06-23-09
207
#232
Oh Justin how sad you are. Even when I was sending you the paperwork you were on their side. You per judge me?isn't sbr a place where a few of you are registered sex offenders? Did I pre judge you, you lying piece of trash. You kid fuggers didn't even look at the info I handed you. Yes Melissa is a registered user on that account I provided that. Its our god damn checking account. Kathleen at the book told us to write her name over mine. When they said that won't work please send Vincent's info, I did. You have everything needed. Your a fraud. And you should pull yourself out of the business. You posing as some helpful tool to us? The charge back was done to some other persons account that used my card. Nobody said their balance was zero, I have no clue what it was. You hark on on stuff you know nothing about. The book admitted they were wrong and you dry humped them and told them not to pay. Would somebody please call Jim AT osga and ask when he was misquoted. Your so full of it. I answered all of your questions and in the 52 emails I sent you, you have all proof. Your a dirt bag and I hope that you have the worst luck that a human being could have. Your disgusting and a liar. Lying piece of trash. Sia will be on sbr's site soon folks. You watch.
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#233
Originally posted by melinsurance79
isn't sbr a place where a few of you are registered sex offenders?
Seems that we have a registered sex change section as well
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#234
Originally posted by melinsurance79
Oh Justin how sad you are. Even when I was sending you the paperwork you were on their side. You per judge me?isn't sbr a place where a few of you are registered sex offenders? Did I pre judge you, you lying piece of trash. You kid fuggers didn't even look at the info I handed you. Yes Melissa is a registered user on that account I provided that. Its our god damn checking account. Kathleen at the book told us to write her name over mine. When they said that won't work please send Vincent's info, I did. You have everything needed. Your a fraud. And you should pull yourself out of the business. You posing as some helpful tool to us? The charge back was done to some other persons account that used my card. Nobody said their balance was zero, I have no clue what it was. You hark on on stuff you know nothing about. The book admitted they were wrong and you dry humped them and told them not to pay. Would somebody please call Jim AT osga and ask when he was misquoted. Your so full of it. I answered all of your questions and in the 52 emails I sent you, you have all proof. Your a dirt bag and I hope that you have the worst luck that a human being could have. Your disgusting and a liar. Lying piece of trash. Sia will be on sbr's site soon folks. You watch.
But seriously i have a genuine question that may help us understand your situation better.
What medication do you take?
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melinsurance79
SBR High Roller
06-23-09
207
#235
You keep saying you need proof. You god damn loser, you got our bank statements that have the same exact account numbers on them. My banking manager just told me that she clearly stated that Melissa is an authorized user and that is her account as well. Jackass. We both sent licenses, bank statements, copies of the card, signed 3rd party agreements, Joseph's calls when he said they would pay Melissa as soon as my stuff was entered. Then an email stating that they were wrong and that system doesn't exist any more so sorry. Bullshit! If she would have lost they wouldn't have refunded. So it was a no lose situation for them. They waited for her to request a payout. They could have done research and if they didn't want our business they could have told us. They had plenty of time. Their god damn shot clocks went off long ago. And you back them? If you aren't getting paid then you are Lloyd xmas. How you pose as this man of the people act is just gross. I would rather lick the hand rails at the center of disease control then have you ever look up someone's rip off situation. Your an idiot. And then you come on this post and actually have the nuts to type this shit? The goods are coming folks. Stay tuned. Justin you should have been on the right side. Scam supporter.
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fixxer
SBR MVP
09-13-05
1877
#236
Wow....interesting Sex offenders LOOOOOL This is getting funnier with every post...
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pokerplayer22
SBR MVP
05-09-09
1207
#237
I am not taking sides in this case but it does seem all too common recently that Justin is too quick to take the sportsbook's side in a dispute, even when the sportsbook is long time known to be a shit, corrupt, shady, dishonest place such as this SIA or Sportbet.
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#238
Originally posted by melinsurance79
You keep saying you need proof. You god damn loser, you got our bank statements that have the same exact account numbers on them. My banking manager just told me that she clearly stated that Melissa is an authorized user and that is her account as well. Jackass. We both sent licenses, bank statements, copies of the card, signed 3rd party agreements, Joseph's calls when he said they would pay Melissa as soon as my stuff was entered. Then an email stating that they were wrong and that system doesn't exist any more so sorry. Bullshit! If she would have lost they wouldn't have refunded. So it was a no lose situation for them. They waited for her to request a payout. They could have done research and if they didn't want our business they could have told us. They had plenty of time. Their god damn shot clocks went off long ago. And you back them? If you aren't getting paid then you are Lloyd xmas. How you pose as this man of the people act is just gross. I would rather lick the hand rails at the center of disease control then have you ever look up someone's rip off situation. Your an idiot. And then you come on this post and actually have the nuts to type this shit? The goods are coming folks. Stay tuned. Justin you should have been on the right side. Scam supporter.
I reckon the hand rails at disease control would in fact be quite clean
Unlike you
Come on now, you been well and truley busted
Justin7 has clearly shown you as a liar,
So stop digging and follow tomcowleys advice if you can, thing is you cant can you
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#239
Originally posted by pokerplayer22
I am not taking sides in this case but it does seem all too common recently that Justin is too quick to take the sportsbook's sidein a dispute, even when the sportsbook is long time known to be a shit, corrupt, shady, dishonest place such as this SIA or Sportbet.
Whether that is true or not is irrelavant to this case
The OP has clearly lied and shows serious signs of being deranged.
cant see how Justin could have made any other decision based on the manic statements coming from she man
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pokerplayer22
SBR MVP
05-09-09
1207
#240
Originally posted by betpartners
Whether that is true or not is irrelavant to this case
The OP has clearly lied and shows serious signs of being deranged.
cant see how Justin could have made any other decision based on the manic statements coming from she man
$$$$$$$$$$$
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melinsurance79
SBR High Roller
06-23-09
207
#241
Great assumption. It is clear to others now. Those of you that are backing Justin is because he may have helped you get money back from a book he doesn't like. He happens to like these guys. Do you remember the 1st pay Justin made on this subject? He said he spoke to sia and looks like am going to paid. Now Justin, I have never misquoted you because I don't throw up the symbols "". So don't be a fanny pack wearing homo and state that I misquote everyone. I have never quoted any of ya. But go back and read how you started your end. Immediately saying you spoke with em, its cool, gonna get paid and then you got paid off or made a friend in Gary over there. You are see through.
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#242
Mel,
You told me that your wife had a card with that account, but lost it. You told SIA the same thing. If this statement were true, you would have been paid.
My predictions on how a dispute will resolve are only as good as the facts (or falsities) I'm given.
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betpartners
SBR High Roller
02-15-09
239
#243
Originally posted by melinsurance79
Great assumption. It is clear to others now. Those of you that are backing Justin is because he may have helped you get money back from a book he doesn't like. He happens to like these guys. Do you remember the 1st pay Justin made on this subject? He said he spoke to sia and looks like am going to paid. Now Justin, I have never misquoted you because I don't throw up the symbols "". So don't be a fanny pack wearing homo and state that I misquote everyone. I have never quoted any of ya. But go back and read how you started your end. Immediately saying you spoke with em, its cool, gonna get paid and then you got paid off or made a friend in Gary over there. You are see through.
But you NEVER answer the questions asked do you
Medications? what you on?
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#244
Mel,
I note that TheRX is an advertiser for Sportsinteraction. Since you still don't agree with my opinion on it, you might try contacting them to see if they can get you paid.
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#245
I though Mel was gone and it was the husband posting now??
They advertise at covers too. Maybe they can help. lol