giving bet911.com a chance

[nitzantal]

I m so impressed I had to report this one.

It took Julie (Bet911 accounts) 13 minutes from time I requested the payout to the time the money was in my moneybookers account.

This is faster than Pinnacle.

... and believe me I do not work for them and they did not ask me to do that - I m simply sooooooooooooo impressed I had to share it with all of you

[xyz]

In The Zone, I just got a Xmas promo email from bet911, 50% cash or 100% freeplay. Is this promo available for both reduced juice players and regular juice players? If I had a payout from Bet911 in the past, am I eligible for this promo? Please let me know, and I will make the deposit. In live chat, what is your name? So I can ask for your help. Thanks.

[Chopsticks]

This is in their terms:

Customers taking a payout in the last fifteen (15) days are not eligible for re-deposit bonuses, unless the deposit amount is greater than the withdrawal amount.

But let's hope Robert is feeling the love and would like to spread some holiday joy
I had the e-mail too, but I still have over a grand in the account, so no need to re-deposit yet.

[aslan]

how do payouts work now for GBP accounts - do you request the GBP equivalent of 1500$ for your payout? and the fees will be the GBP equivalent of $35?

have sent e-mails to accounting to ask but nobody's bothered to reply

thanks

[Mikelo]

They have live chat. Just ask there.

[QUICKMICK]

I don't give them any further chances!!!

Happened twice now within one week:

I did place a bet once NHL once NBA:
Both I placed were over/under bets - one 500$, one 1000$
AND: Both bets voided without any notification - they are just gone and invisible - not in betting-history - nothing!
(Not to mention that both bets were winners!)
--> Stay away from this "nice" bookie!!!

[Chopsticks]

I did hear that Robert have started sending out e-mails when this happens though. Hopefully the rest of the staff there will get in to that routine also.

[slevy]

How can they cancel a bet that has already been accepted? Was it because of a "bad-line" Quickmick or what reason was given to you?
Has never happend to me, but haven´t played there for a while, but am back now, and hope to find the same good service as earlier.

[Mikelo]

It seems there are a lot of canceled bets here lately. Probably it's time to start filing complaints.

[QUICKMICK]

How can they cancel a bet that has already been accepted? Was it because of a "bad-line" Quickmick or what reason was given to you?
Has never happend to me, but haven´t played there for a while, but am back now, and hope to find the same good service as earlier.

The bet was not shown at all after some time - just disappeared!
AND: No comments at all from bet911

[tics]

in the zone is not allowed to write in the sbr forums at this time... he was restricted by sbr management

[Dunder]

in the zone is not allowed to write in the sbr forums at this time... he was restricted by sbr management

If true they were saving him from himself.

[ehp6737]

Nothing against this book, but why even take the chance? With solid books like 5dimes, why would you trust your money to the unknown......

[Dunder]

Nothing against this book, but why even take the chance? With solid books like 5dimes, why would you trust your money to the unknown......

When Carl was posting here, I was seriously considering giving them a shot (as posted above). The arrival of "In the Zone", really put me off them. He seems to want to argue a lot and if that is representative of the organisation, then it is probably more trouble than it is worth.

Most of the posters here, seem to like them though and there has been no real question of funds being at risk which, as you say, is always the primary issue with offshore books.

[Peep]

I play there, have not had a bet cancelled.

BUT, it may be worthwhile taking a screenshot if it is something that worries you. Their software is flakey IMO, It told me a bet did not go through, turns out it did, I ended up with a double bet. Of course if it would have won, I would have won double, no complaints. As it is, I just chalk it up to bad software.

[dark star]

Yeah I hate their software but like the book.

[robmpink]

[UV82]

The Carl era of 911 is over - watch it now, may be risky

[dark star]

The Carl era of 911 is over - watch it now, may be risky

The In the Zone era was a brief one

[UV82]

They seem to pay well, but for some reason without Carl they do not seem to be the same... from what I hear out there... I didnt sign up with them when Carl was around ... as a matter of principal I do not sign up with D rated books, when they were upgraded to C- I was going to sign up, but after Carl left I changed my mind... I hope they keep up the good work that Carl did over here for them.

[QUICKMICK]

How the system works at Bet911 - stay away!!!

This is the result of my chat from yesterday -

1. They do cancel and you can be lucky to receive a notification about that (or if Robert is not there or couldn't find the time - you won't receive one)

2. You should check every bet once again right before the match starts

3. Robert is THE only one who communicates with customers (what happens if he is on vacation, etc.????)

4. If they cancel you won't be able to find any log of that bet you placed (a bookkeeper should never delete entries traceless but settles a correspontent booking to the cancelled bet in order to be transparent for the client)

Conclusio: For me Bet911 is NOT a serious sportsbook!

Details see here:

******************************* C U T ******************************
Robert:
hello
Robert:
whats up
Karl:
Hi, I did place two over/under bets last week - one about 1000$ and one 550$ but both bets disappeared and can't find them anywhere - I did receive a proper Bet-ID after completeing my bet, funds came off my "Available" as well ?!?!!?
Robert:
what were the bets
Karl:
hockey 12.12. NJ Devils vs. Philadelphia over 5,5 550 to win 500
Robert:
was suppose to be -140 not -110
Robert:
you made the bet in the morning around 1:30 am
Robert:
something like that
Karl:
right
Robert:
so since you got the wrong line it was deleted
Robert:
I was never notified until alot later so I was not able to write you
Karl:
and you are so nice guys not even to notify me about the cancellation????
Robert:
I just told you why
Karl:
and how comes it is just invisible - no records - nothing????
Robert:
cause it was deleted before the game started
Karl:
and why don't you notify about that????
Karl:
...as any other SERIOUS sportsbook does?
Robert:
I just told you
Robert:
I did not know about it and was not notified of it till the next day after the game was over
Robert:
so I decided to wait till you all got ahold of me
Robert:
as you are now
Karl:
hahaha - what a joke- seems that Mr. Robert is the only responsible person at bet911????
Robert:
excuse me
Robert:
just what are you getting at
Robert:
would you care to elaborate on that please
Karl:
I just find it is NOT ok to NOT notify when bets are cancelled - I am pretty sure that there must be a person who does manually remove the bet: so why can't that person just drop a line via email after triggering the cancellation? (as Pinnacle and all other serious bookies do???)
Robert:
Look I really do not want to get into all this inner workings of our office but the line managers delete your bets then they notify me and I do my best to personally notify the client. It was a miscommunication issue this time.
Karl:
...and due to that mis-communication I did not win 500$
Robert:
you had plenty of time to review your account or are you going to tell me you never check to see if all is ok
Karl:
Sorry but I am NOT sitting in front of my PC all day long...
Robert:
ok
Karl:
alright - I just can't accept those "strategies" of bet911 so I want to immediately withdraw my funds back to Moneybookers - do you require anything or may I just initiate the withdrawal online???
Robert:
you account will be looked at for approval of a withdrawal and after you have submitted an email to accounting for the withdrawal
Robert:
bye sir




Robert has left the conversation. Currently in room: Karl.

******************************* C U T ******************************

[Chopsticks]

I don't know if that line was very wrong or if it just moved over night... if it just moved and it was not an obvious input error, then they should honor it. No book should be able to cancel bets just because you are up in the middle of the night and they are not. This is why limits were invented. Similarly because I am in a different time zone I have seen some good football odds on saturday mornings. But I have been in the game for a while so most of the time I know what I can take and what I can't take.

Regardless, they should always e-mail you when they delete a bet. I have seen e-mails from Robert that have been sent to people about bets being cancelled, so when he says that it was impossible for him to notify you in time I believe him. It is a very unfortunate situation for you though as it means you didn't get that winning bet.

This said... Bet911 is still a good book and I will continue to play there. I have only ever had one bet cancelled but I knew there was a 90% chance that the bet would get cancelled due to a very bad line . It was just too good a line not to try and bet it.

Also -- Robert has said elsewhere that he would give a $5 freeplay to anyone who spots a bad line and tells them about it. I would like for him to take it one step further. Every time they cancel a clients bet, they have to credit the bettor a $5 freeplay. I know it is not all the money in the world, but this means that the line managers would have a bigger stake involved and that they would have to do a better job as they would lose money both if they let a bet on a bad line ride, but also if they have to cancel it. Also the bettor gets a compensation, albeit very small.

[UV82]

as I said the Carl Era is over and Bet911 are back into the Dark ages of D rated book

all Carl's good work was in vain

[tsamem0rex]

Nothing against this book, but why even take the chance? With solid books like 5dimes, why would you trust your money to the unknown......

i agree, when it comes to my money i think i rather go for something more reputable to avoid all these unnecessary problems. I'm also using 5dimes and im sticking to it! lol

[UV82]

I also stick to my safe books and avoid the D range

[Cferrat]

Good Morning.

Recently Carl informed me that he was going to post in here and inform all of you of whatis happening but I guess he is not going to post as he told me he would so I better explain to everyone just what is happening.

Carl had a very high paying position and while he did a good job he didn’t do as well as bet911 expected him to do. So bet911 re-contracted his salary and he was in agreement with the new reconstruction. Everyone knows that when you work for a company it is all about loyalty, and when Carl posted a link on a forum saying some things bet911 decided to dismiss him and end his contract with him. This is the link and hope that you all look at this from a business point of view cause this is a business and business is business.

http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=141136

Now bet911 which is a company not just one man and we want everyone to know that we still expect to be doing the same as we have been or even better to keep our clients happy and wanting to come back and play with us. Our customer service will remain fast as always, as well as our payouts and line service and the amount of sports that we have to offer and remember if there is any one game that you do not see, feel free to contact us so that we can try and make it available for you and whatever problem you may have please feel free to contact me and we can work it out together.

I just want to clear this up here and now....

The huge salary that I recieved was $6.50 an hour...(a clerks wages)What really happened was that on the 12th of November the owners called me to a meeting to tell me that I no longer would be paid the commissions that I earnt..which was unacceptable since the bulk of my income was from those commissions from the efforts that I put into the company..so they fired me for posting my anger.
They then told me that I would be paid out by the 15th of December as required by law and they did not even my aguinald which is a xmas bonus that we get by law as well..They now stand to be prosecuted by our courts as I will not allow them to steal from...
Robert says that I did not meet their standards well...40 new customers a month and over $100,000.00 a month in deposits is not what I would call a bad job...would you?
Also they say that I am "stealing" their players so..please anyone who has been contacted by me in any way please make it known here and now...I am above that and can do the same at any other book, why would I steal anything from them, when its they that have stolen from me!
They just do not have the money to pay me and are looking for a way to not pay me..the guy that brought them back up, getting them three upgrades in less than a year and building up thier customer base.... these guys are theives and cons..I would never stand for that happening while I was there...SO BEWARE...get what you can back while you can!!!!! Good luck and God bless!

[blix177]

Someone does this shit to me, I will put a cap in their ass. Then piss over them and ask was it all worth it?

[Cferrat]

Someone does this shit to me, I will put a cap in their ass. Then piss over them and ask was it all worth it?

They will get what they deserve...by legal means...God pounds his nails!

[austin]

what a BS. b911 is there to make money and cferrat et al shills - to get paid their commission

[tics]

here is roberts response since he cant post here


Quote:
Originally Posted by cferrat
I feel I owe it to you all, since most of you have joined because of my influence and in a way I wash my hands of these people that have done this to me already and I don't want them to do it to you. Now I will see them in court for what they have done to me, but you cannot.


Ok, I guess I better answer this as it is not fully 100% True. But Carl is not going to post the whole truth as we all know he is just going to try and point out things that would be in his favor. Carl carries on about this and that as he has every time he has posted in the RX. He is a disgruntled employee as he has demonstrated in the past he is demonstrating again as you all can see.

Lets go to the head of the problem and that is that Carl has not been paid and why is that you may ask. By Law anyone that threatens the welfare of a company that they work for can be fired with cause and without what he would rightfully be entitled to. He gave up these rights when he posted in the RX

http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?p=7231603#post7231603

This is where Carl posted the things he doesn’t want you to see. Quoted from the RX.

” but I will find something somewhere and then they will see what a difference my efforts make to the company, especially since most of my players go where I am, all 189 of them. “

That in itself got Carl fired. But he fired himself as he well knew by law he cant even hint to something like that without repercussions. He was then offered what was by law what he has coming; he refused and said that he was entitled to all his rights. So we are going to court because it is the next procedure in the process not because we are being prosecuted, but because it is the only way this problem with a disgruntled employee can be resolved.

Now as for us not being able to pay our clients you all know that is BS cause our payouts have been even faster since Carl left. Bet911 is here to stay and our actions have demonstrated that time and time again. I need not say anything else in this matter and I will not get into a chicken match (C O C K fight--2 rosters fighting to kill each other) with Carl on this matter in this forum or any other forum. We will let the courts decide what should be done. You all have a Very Merry X-mas and Happy New Year!!!

[potless]

thought you left to sell real estate or some such - was that not true carl?
(oh and 911 were solid/good people etc - not true?)
robert is clearly a f*ckwit and this book will fail in some style but the amount of bs surrounding it is really quite tedious.

[Cferrat]

what a BS. b911 is there to make money and cferrat et al shills - to get paid their commission

Thats what I say...but if they can't pay me the commissions then can they pay you..oh sure they pay as it comes in but do you think that they have the funds that are on the books...no way, and so Robert can't post here...I wonder why?
Anyway I gave you fair warning guys..I know these guys and they are not straight shooters...I haven't seen one person come here and say that I have solicited their action in any way shape or form!They are in trouble with the law here as it is fist they can't just say hey I can't afford to pay you commissions anymore, thats a breach, then they did not pay me aguinaldo that means that they will be fined 11 to 13 of my base salaries, that alone is a lot of money..since I made as base $6.50 x 10 hours a day thats 30 days a month..about $1950 a month x say 11 is $21,450.00 in fines alone plus what they will have to pay me...this is staight from the Ministerio de trabajo..I just want what is mine..my kids have been thru hardships because of this and that I can't forgive!

[Cferrat]

thought you left to sell real estate or some such - was that not true carl?
(oh and 911 were solid/good people etc - not true?)
robert is clearly a f*ckwit and this book will fail in some style but the amount of bs surrounding it is really quite tedious.

I had to say that or else they would not pay me and they still did not..stand up guys...I was between a rock and a hard place...but I have come clean and even if I don't get my money and these guys bolt at least I let you know what was up. I hope you at least get some back!

[Cferrat]

I feel bad about all this situation and I will not solicit not even one player from this book, I am better than that! I feel really bad for the guys that came in because of me and I am trying to make an amend..so very very sorry!!

[blix177]

This is where Carl posted the things he doesn’t want you to see. Quoted from the RX.

” but I will find something somewhere and then they will see what a difference my efforts make to the company, especially since most of my players go where I am, all 189 of them. “

That in itself got Carl fired. But he fired himself as he well knew by law he cant even hint to something like that without repercussions. He was then offered what was by law what he has coming; he refused and said that he was entitled to all his rights. ]

So Carl gets fired because he posted shit about this company and say he will take his clients away from you guys. That is why Robert fires him....

BUT: Carl posted that shit because you guys retroactively took his commission away from him and left him with no recourse, either stay with no commission and lazy out and get fired, or vent your anger and get fired?

Sucks to be Carl but in away Carl should have saw it coming. I mean bet911.com is by no mean Enron where they hide their shit from their employees. You see the way it is operated, you know it isn't fully solvent, you know there is a chance shit like that will happen.

Even if they paid Carl commission and Carl stay and help bet911.com knowing that their shit isn't together, Carl isn't fully honest, at least to the public. (Not a whistle blow). Making him an evil person, at least to us.