Let me know when this is resolved. I have already lost my money, no need in sulking on the board about it.
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There goes ya'll niggas moneys.
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To appease many of us gamblers that need to get our MLB, NHL or NBA playoff bets in NOW and to keep us Legends customers from thinking automatically their cash is gone, they made the mistake IMO of putting 24-48 hours in their letter. This is an acquisition/merger of books, not running into McDonald's and getting a #7.Comment -
its *im trollin yall*, just got the emailComment -
best book possible...could you post a copy of the email? thanksLast edited by raydog; 04-19-13, 04:34 PM.Comment -
Glad for you guys that it got sorted out. The U.S. government is just a bunch of haters.Comment -
Can anyone confirm this? Still nothing for me.Comment -
Guys,
1. All you have to do is look at last months players poll, to see how big SBR influence was at Legends. If it's A rated (for what it is worth) but only has 29 votes (10th place) you know there weren't that many SBR post up players there.
2. I visited their office in Panama about 5 years ago. Had a tour by 'Max' of their facilities. Reading between the lines (as he didnt give me an exact number) I could conclude they had a little under 10,000 players at that time. So my guess would be that it could be anywhere between 8,000 and 15,000 players by now. My guess about 10 to 30 % of these are post-up players. so anywhere from 800 to 4,500 players.
3. The feds are claiming about a billion dollars and it seems they have some inside information (know everyone in the legends organisation). I have seen several of these cases and usually the feds are too stupid or just greedy so they take the volume/handle and claim that. This means they 'know' of about a billion dollars in handle. Way too small for a group of this size, but what ever.
4. The reason Legends is not moving shop (which they could easily do) is that everyone and their kids (bank accounts) are on the indictment. The first thing the lawyers will tell you is that you have to stop operation. Selling your customer base is considered continuance of the business and will only make it harder for you with the Feds. the fact they are trying to find a home means they are taking a risk and apparently care for their customers.
5. The post-up money is not confiscated, none of the post-up was in the USA. All processors sent money to just about any other country except the USA. Also post-up part of the money this group made is peanuts, the real money was in the agent/credit business.
6. Any other book that does not take agent business should be okay. Most times these books get in trouble because of their agent business. It's takes a lot of bookies to get 8,000 players together. If a couple of these are not careful they will get in trouble with local law enforcement they smell pay day and then it starts from there.
Just wait and see, any book to take these players on (in public) has to be either already indicted and not give a f*ck or have a wish to be indicted. The fact they indicted an affiliate means these feds are like a dog with a bone. cris/bookmaker would be my guess.
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Nobody forced legends to say 48 hours...dam shame about all of this.....Comment -
Consistent with the early line. We'll see.
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Well well well
A....C-, what a couple of letters between friends. 10x??? I got a lot of betting to do.
Dear customers,
Due to recent events surrounding Legends Sports’ gaming license being revoked in Panama, Legends has ceased accepting wagers at this time.
After careful consideration WagerWeb Sportsbook and Casino has agreed to give players from Legends a new home with their full balance intact. This is a huge undertaking, and as such we ask that players be patient and understanding as we accommodate every one of our new clients. WagerWeb will be assuming responsibility for all accounts both funded and non-funded. Wagerweb will be requiring all pass through accounts with a balance fulfill a maximum 10X (Rollover of their balance) before any funds can be withdrawn.
WagerWeb has agreed to assist Legends customers for the good of the industry, as well as the well being of all Legends customers. WagerWeb will be calling out to all Legends customers and will be providing Customer Service to ensure the transition to WagerWeb goes smoothly and without incident. Wagerweb has always been a Sportbook that caterers to the recreational player and as such will be upholding the terms and conditions WagerWeb currently has listed on the Website. All WagerWeb Terms and Conditions and/or Rules must be agreed to prior to any wager taken place. Please contact WagerWeb directly with any questions and concerns.
WagerWeb looks forward to providing you with a stable wagering environment, and outstanding Customer Service.Comment -
Sounds like there was a deal that either made someone money...or the deal was made because there is not enough money to cover existing balances.Comment -
If what Mic says is true, this is robbery.Comment -
It's true I got the email. It is an A+ rated book somewhere
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they also have betrevolution rated A+ ... unfukkingrealComment -
FYI. Got 2 payouts early this week and they all bounced. Good luck to those awaiting from them. Also, heard people were able to log in Heritage with their previous legends account ID and password. I was able to log in by using 6XXXXX (delete zz and add 6 in front of the rest of your old legends account number today but they removed my access as soon as i called them about my payouts from legends. more to come if i find out more.....Comment -
trust me, this is the ONLY thing you even came close to getting in the right ballpark...its all still very unclear what legends will get out of it, but nobody was debating that anyways when the first news of a 2x rollover was released..
and yes, this fukking sucks...Last edited by raydog; 04-19-13, 11:01 PM.Comment -
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isnt that weird?
i posted in another thread that people would not be happy about what book
my source also said the rollover would be rediculous
i also said SBR had a nice hand in this
raydog called me out - its cool - but my source was right, yet again
i got a warning thru inbox for swearing - and my posts were moved to this thread within 3 mins
now after everything comes out - i go back to quote what i said and it magically disappeared
expect wagerweb to be #10 or higher in next months SBR reliable poll
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Ray,
My other arguments are that SBR played a role in building Legends, SBR knows more than the average poster, and SBR's revenue creates a bias--as shown in the Bet Revolution case. These are all within reason.Comment -
and PS i am not calling you out raydog, as i respect the knowledgable posts you provideComment -
this is bull
sh!t
Dear customers,
Due to recent events surrounding Legends Sports’ gaming license being revoked in Panama, Legends has ceased accepting wagers at this time.
After careful consideration WagerWeb Sportsbook and Casino has agreed to give players from Legends a new home with their full balance intact. This is a huge undertaking, and as such we ask that players be patient and understanding as we accommodate every one of our new clients. WagerWeb will be assuming responsibility for all accounts both funded and non-funded. Wagerweb will be requiring all pass through accounts with a balance fulfill a maximum 10X (Rollover of their balance) before any funds can be withdrawn.
WagerWeb has agreed to assist Legends customers for the good of the industry, as well as the well being of all Legends customers. WagerWeb will be calling out to all Legends customers and will be providing Customer Service to ensure the transition to WagerWeb goes smoothly and without incident. Wagerweb has always been a Sportbook that caterers to the recreational player and as such will be upholding the terms and conditions WagerWeb currently has listed on the Website. All WagerWeb Terms and Conditions and/or Rules must be agreed to prior to any wager taken place. Please contact WagerWeb directly with any questions and concerns.
WagerWeb looks forward to providing you with a stable wagering environment, and outstanding Customer Service.
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Maximum of 10x...what is the minimum?Comment -
H.E. its not worth the argument...others, who also know people there and the operation, have chimed in to validate what i was trying to explain, and if thats not good enough for you, then its just not worth anyone bringing it up anymore...
gl meeting rollover and hope you can run the fukk up out of your balance...
the 10x ro sucks fukking bad(assuming this is adjusted by the balance) ... so many will bust out and thats very unfortunate...
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shit never failsComment -
I'm Casey Kasem,
Insert American Top 40 Theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvmSNjpqUwc
Next up is the book that has a string of hits, including the December 2007 chart topper "We confiscated $37,451; because of wagering fraud" and the remake of the Carrie Underwood smash "Cheating Sharp Players" from March 2008. Their latest hit is on the way down the SBR charts and checks in at #37. Here's "Correlated Parlay Case"
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Wagerweb...hmmmm...this is the book that RobmPink, formerly the chief BI (v1.0) nut-rider at SBR has moved onto pimping for.
Whatever happened to the move to an "A" rated book with 2x rollover...
guess we didn't see the word "hole" imbedded in the fine print after the "A"...
BI v2.0 indeed!Comment
