BetRevolution Scam: Sportsbook winnings confiscated for Syndicate Betting

**Robber** · 04-05-13, 12:18 AM

Most books these days are run by scammers and thieves

See: betislands

**stevex** · 04-05-13, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Robber

Most books these days are run by scammers and thieves

See: betislands

Maybe your right. We should just all play at 1 sportsbook with the same line and the same promos. You'll get it one day Robber.

**Robber** · 04-05-13, 12:44 AM

Your? And that's not what I said at all. I simply made an observation.

I bet at five books, none of which are named bet pollution.

as for tto you may want to actually read a little before calling everyone morons
erickvivar is a known shill and you make yourself look like a moron when you jump in here attacking everyone

**stevex** · 04-05-13, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Robber

Your? And that's not what I said at all. I simply made an observation.

I bet at five books, none of which are named bet pollution.

as for tto you may want to actually read a little before calling everyone morons
erickvivar is a known shill and you make yourself look like a moron when you jump in here attacking everyone

Attacking everyone? I'm just calling you out because you know nothing. Thanks for coming. Ha.

**BigDeem5** · 04-05-13, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by stevex

Attacking everyone? I'm just calling you out because you know nothing. Thanks for coming. Ha.

Here is this fukin guy.. .Steve enlighten us on how we should be fine if a book steals our deposit, as long as it is $500 or less, fukin hamburger

**BigDeem5** · 04-05-13, 01:34 AM

EoG is reputable, reputable enough to not list Heritage as a top book, fuking joke...

I need some sleep, they bury themselves across the street.

**Jayvegas420** · 04-05-13, 01:41 AM

SO I was right? Eric works at this $H|T BOOK?

**stevex** · 04-05-13, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

Here is this fukin guy.. .Steve enlighten us on how we should be fine if a book steals our deposit, as long as it is $500 or less, fukin hamburger

Coming from a kid that bets $50 a game on his parents allowance...

Such a joke.

**CrazyCarl** · 04-05-13, 02:00 AM

Bookie is robbing them, don't care how or why they bet the same way or if it's steam or not.

Pay them and kick them if you don't want to deal with them anymore.

**mighty maron** · 04-05-13, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

EoG is reputable, reputable enough to not list Heritage as a top book, fuking joke...

I need some sleep, they bury themselves across the street.

This caught my attention. What in EoG or your opinion doesnt make Heritage a top book?

Serious question...no mocking or anything...I just would like to know.

TY

**jazy989** · 04-05-13, 07:03 AM

I hope my 1259 is safe... I don't want to get caught in another betislands saga.... They did seem to good to be true their bonus deals

**Sledge187** · 04-05-13, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

SO I was right? Eric works at this $H|T BOOK?

Jay you are always right and yes Eric works for a book but can't remember which one he said he works for.

**jazy989** · 04-05-13, 08:32 AM

Ok. Anyways

**Robber** · 04-05-13, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by stevex

Attacking everyone? I'm just calling you out because you know nothing. Thanks for coming. Ha.

Obviously i know a lot more than you

You fukkin loudmouth clown dumbass

I speak from experience

You speak from your parent's basement

Enjoy those nachos, loser. Ha.

**Robber** · 04-05-13, 09:09 AM

This dumbass stevex can't even read. The part about attacking everyone wasn't even directed at you, you high school dropout. Ha.

**darkhat** · 04-05-13, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

Here is this fukin guy.. .Steve enlighten us on how we should be fine if a book steals our deposit, as long as it is $500 or less, fukin hamburger

deemer don't worry

this guy actually works for ezstreet, which everyone knows is basically betislands/7red etc

do some google searching you will find out

**Smoke** · 04-05-13, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by darkhat

deemer don't worry

this guy actually works for ezstreet, which everyone knows is basically betislands/7red etc

do some google searching you will find out

**darkhat** · 04-05-13, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Smoke

**Smoke** · 04-05-13, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by darkhat

**Mikeyanks23** · 04-05-13, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

EoG is reputable, reputable enough to not list Heritage as a top book, fuking joke...

I need some sleep, they bury themselves across the street.

none of the forums can be trusted. We have seen this for yrs now. When a forum accepts money from a
Book its almost always favors the book

**Smoke** · 04-05-13, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Mikeyanks23

none of the forums can be trusted. We have seen this for yrs now. When a forum accepts money from a
Book its almost always favors the book

**darkhat** · 04-05-13, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Mikeyanks23

none of the forums can be trusted. We have seen this for yrs now. When a forum accepts money from a
Book its almost always favors the book

**BigDeem5** · 04-05-13, 09:51 AM

Steve you've been served kinda like revolver across the street.

**lecubs28** · 04-05-13, 10:45 AM

STEVEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

just got exposed for the clown that he is

get the fukk outta here go answer phones for 2000 colones an hour

**Peregrine Stoop** · 04-05-13, 12:20 PM

Congrats BetRev,
You finally developed risk management which can spot winners. You're obviously scared of anyone with a clue, so pay them and ban them.
To classify guys who hit you in the same soft spots as a syndicate is ridiculous and outright theft.

How bad is business where you have to steal from winners? Are you an on-going concern BetRev? Will we see you after the next Super Bowl?

**Sports Scientist** · 04-05-13, 02:04 PM

oh hai

**DJ Dalamar** · 04-05-13, 10:22 PM

Serious question guys if you ran a book and didn't allow beards to play there what would you do if you found some that you were sure they were? Forget weather this group was or not just in general.

Say I have four guys beard for me and we hit a newer book. We get caught and kicked out but we got paid. Guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to find me 4 more guys and hit them again.

However if I get kicked out and they confiscate my winnings? I'm probably not going to mess with them again.

Again I'm not saying they did the right thing however it is a tough position for a book. Since they haven't paid the SBR protection money they are going to be raked over the coals on the forums, but if they don't take a stand they open themselves up for more hits and possibly going out of business.

**brendon** · 04-06-13, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by DJ Dalamar

Serious question guys if you ran a book and didn't allow beards to play there what would you do if you found some that you were sure they were? Forget weather this group was or not just in general.

Say I have four guys beard for me and we hit a newer book. We get caught and kicked out but we got paid. Guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to find me 4 more guys and hit them again.

However if I get kicked out and they confiscate my winnings? I'm probably not going to mess with them again.

Again I'm not saying they did the right thing however it is a tough position for a book. Since they haven't paid the SBR protection money they are going to be raked over the coals on the forums, but if they don't take a stand they open themselves up for more hits and possibly going out of business.

you make a very good point. even though i hope they pay the players, i can see betrev position too if all their information is correct and truthful. i play with them because they give out good bonus....if they don't have a strong stand, i might use all my friends and family to open up accounts. i can make a pretty good living if i have 10 accounts with them with their bonus and lines..

**lecubs28** · 04-06-13, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by DJ Dalamar

Serious question guys if you ran a book and didn't allow beards to play there what would you do if you found some that you were sure they were? Forget weather this group was or not just in general.

Say I have four guys beard for me and we hit a newer book. We get caught and kicked out but we got paid. Guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to find me 4 more guys and hit them again.

However if I get kicked out and they confiscate my winnings? I'm probably not going to mess with them again.

Again I'm not saying they did the right thing however it is a tough position for a book. Since they haven't paid the SBR protection money they are going to be raked over the coals on the forums, but if they don't take a stand they open themselves up for more hits and possibly going out of business.

what if someone came to betrevolution's office with guns and held their managers at gunpoint and forced them to go to the atm and take out $5,000? and then if betrev didn't do anything about it, the robbers would just go back and do it again.

better steal money from these sportsbook players so that robbers don't go to betrevolution's office with guns.

**PharaohUB** · 04-06-13, 12:33 AM

BI tried to pay these syndicate bettor types and take all action with big bonuses, and went out of business and stiffed everybody.. remember???? BetRev catches them and boots them so the regular rec players can get paid. Which is it that you want guys? You want 100% bonus, and want to be paid as Rec player, be happy they are booting guys that are solely betting soft lines and circumventing limits, no? They were pretty clear up front they don't want that action.

If you want to just have some fun, get a good bonus, and still get paid. Be happy BetRev has these measures in place. If they paid them. They'll call up their cousins and set up accounts and do it again. Next thing you know they can't pay you.

If you are a rec player, this should be good news for you. If you aren't, then you shouldn't be playing at this book. They don't want you and they've made this pretty clear for awhile now. That's what 5dimes and bookmaker is for. I don't feel bad for anyone. Even if the guy was innocent, you have to be dumber then shit to carry that kind of balance there and you deserve everything you got.

**Fishhead** · 04-06-13, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by jazy989

I hope my 1259 is safe... I don't want to get caught in another betislands saga.... They did seem to good to be true their bonus deals

Get out

**Brooklyn Dick** · 04-06-13, 05:43 AM

Bottom line is IF THEY LOST WOULD THEY GET THE MONEY BACK BECAUSE THEY SUPPOSEDLY BROKE THE RULES? You take bets, you pay bets. Bob Martin would be rolling in his grave if he heard this Bullshit.

**andywend** · 04-06-13, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by DJ Dalamar

Serious question guys if you ran a book and didn't allow beards to play there what would you do if you found some that you were sure they were? Forget weather this group was or not just in general.

Say I have four guys beard for me and we hit a newer book. We get caught and kicked out but we got paid. Guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to find me 4 more guys and hit them again.

However if I get kicked out and they confiscate my winnings? I'm probably not going to mess with them again.

Again I'm not saying they did the right thing however it is a tough position for a book. Since they haven't paid the SBR protection money they are going to be raked over the coals on the forums, but if they don't take a stand they open themselves up for more hits and possibly going out of business.

DJ Dalamar, you act like you pick winners at a 90% rate. If you're able to consistently pick winners so easily, then you don't need BetRevolution, just move to Vegas and live a life of luxury since its oh so easy to make gobs of money betting on sports. Since you relate SBR to 1950's style mobs, why do you post on their forums? I am sick and tired of watching books do extensive information gathering ONLY AFTER WITHDRAWALS ARE REQUESTED. If BetRevolution is so worried about syndicate play, they need to do their information gathering before accepting wagers. However, once they book the bet, they have to pay if the player wins and this is true even if friends are sharing picks, players trying to circumvent betting maximums, etc. There is nothing wrong with BR refusing any of their future action, but since they booked the bet, they have to pay up and trying to deflect this simple axiom with 5000 word responses that have no relevance doesn't change this.

**DJ Dalamar** · 04-06-13, 08:19 AM

Note: I didn't mean to imply that "I" am a high roller that needs beards just using it as an example. I'm sorry if that was confusing for people I thought it was clear. BTW pro gamblers in Vegas still use offshore at least according to the books I've read.

The argument "They wouldn't have booted them if they lost" is pretty stupid of course they wouldn't have. You don't even get noticed till you start winning.

As I said in a early post I love a lot of what SBR does but the high horse they are climbing up on here is a bit nauseating.

**shari91** · 04-06-13, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by DJ Dalamar

As I said in a early post I love a lot of what SBR does but the high horse they are climbing up on here is a bit nauseating.

See, I guess that's where you and quite a few of us differ. I don't think SBR's on a high horse at all. This isn't a case like Corey vs Heritage because he had been kicked out and the trouble started after that. These guys weren't and from what I can see they weren't even warned that their style of play wasn't welcome there so they needed to change it up. If you can find another case where SBR stood behind a sponsor book in the same situation then I'd love to see it as I admit I can't recall every case in the 8 years the forum's been around and I'll gladly say I'm wrong. However I haven't seen one person say that BR is in the wrong for only wanting certain players at their book. Hell the exact opposite is what got BI into trouble so why would anyone argue with BR on that point? It's the fact that they don't have a solid reason for confiscating their cash. Boot them and pay their money. If any of them try to get back in again then I at least would support keeping their cash at that point and I suspect many others would too. That's the price you pay for taking that chance after being told you weren't welcome there. But not when they weren't even warned or kicked out in the first place.