I know everybody keeps calling Tony all kinds of names. I have had to deal with him a few times, and he has treated me perfectly fine. I have also seen some of these chat sessions that get posted, and quite often, it is the poster that starts out as an ass. If Tony thinks he is dealing with an abuser of some sort, he gets right to the point -- and does go overboard for a customer relations person. But, I think if you don't mess with Tony, Tony won't mess with you ( although I will admit that Tony can be wrong and go off believing he is in the right when he may not be ).
Has everyone given up hope on a Betislands bailout?
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BranchDavidianSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
- 1014
#211Comment -
Darkside MagickSBR Posting Legend
- 05-28-10
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#212Never had a problem with tony....always got my money fast!Comment -
HeeeHAWWWWSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-13-08
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#213If Tony didn't exist, you'd have to invent him.Comment -
sneak-a-peakSBR MVP
- 11-07-09
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gdelongiSBR Rookie
- 12-29-12
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#215bailout for all but hedgehog. He was too supportive of BI, and demeaned and berrated those who spoke against. As did Rob
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Bill Dozerwww.twitter.com/BillDozer
- 07-12-05
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#217It seems the next update on this possibility wont be until 2nd week of January. The book's mgrs wll be getting together then for a meeting.Comment -
eastern2SBR Sharp
- 02-24-12
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#220Not happening fellas move alongComment -
JasonDCSBR Sharp
- 12-06-12
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#222How do you know? If there is no chance then why does Bill Dozer even mention meetings taking place in January? I dont like my chances but im not moving along until i hear a definitive answer..I have nothing to move along to because im not depositing offshore anymore after what happened so there is no chance to recover what i lost thru some lucky winning streak..im just going to keep asking and keep discussing betislands until we hear something.Comment -
Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
- 12-14-05
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#224Not necessarily. It's hard to make sense of it all at this point, but it seems that around the time of the earlier talks the book considering the bailout was blindsided by the EZ scam 'bailout' from the BI/EZ party.Comment -
eastern2SBR Sharp
- 02-24-12
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#225How do you know? If there is no chance then why does Bill Dozer even mention meetings taking place in January? I dont like my chances but im not moving along until i hear a definitive answer..I have nothing to move along to because im not depositing offshore anymore after what happened so there is no chance to recover what i lost thru some lucky winning streak..im just going to keep asking and keep discussing betislands until we hear something.Comment -
BranchDavidianSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
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#226Bill, I just heard a rumor that you guys have been asking for a commission on losses from the books that you are contacting. I would hope that this is not true.Comment -
JasonDCSBR Sharp
- 12-06-12
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#227I share in your skepticism, but you will have to forgive me if i dont just move along because of the way something seems. I had over 6k in my account so if it's ok i will wait until i hear what happens in these January meetings before i consider moving along.Comment -
TryingMyBestSBR Wise Guy
- 03-07-10
- 611
#228You aren't the only one who heard this. I would have thought SBR would try to sweeten the deal with at minimum free advertising for the foreseeable future. Silly me...Comment -
eastern2SBR Sharp
- 02-24-12
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#230I wouldn't if I were you eitherComment -
Bill Dozerwww.twitter.com/BillDozer
- 07-12-05
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#231We are only updating with what we are told. We even told Robbie who is putting up the made up stories that if he wanted to do a real bailout instead of spam the list and try to make SBR look bad with it, we would document it heavily and his brand would get valuable recognition once the players got payouts as a result.
SBR can't incentivize an unproven book to do it. Otherwise we end up back in this situation again if they fail and new players are there because they were crowned a hero.
EZ Street's announcement that there would be a bailout only to offer a deposit bonus with rollover that should make them money, has added a speedbump in the process. Seeing how they already had the players on their system, if they were considering paying at least some everyone has to wait and see. Also, they won't share the balance and activity list so another book can offer something better where the player actually gains.
Jason is right in that the sooner the better.Comment -
JasonDCSBR Sharp
- 12-06-12
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#232We are only updating with what we are told. We even told Robbie who is putting up the made up stories that if he wanted to do a real bailout instead of spam the list and try to make SBR look bad with it, we would document it heavily and his brand would get valuable recognition once the players got payouts as a result.
SBR can't incentivize an unproven book to do it. Otherwise we end up back in this situation again if they fail and new players are there because they were crowned a hero.
EZ Street's announcement that there would be a bailout only to offer a deposit bonus with rollover that should make them money, has added a speedbump in the process. Seeing how they already had the players on their system, if they were considering paying at least some everyone has to wait and see. Also, they won't share the balance and activity list so another book can offer something better where the player actually gains.
Jason is right in that the sooner the better.Comment -
jcygts6SBR MVP
- 04-05-09
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#233We need to get this done asap.. Stealing money is just wrongDO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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BranchDavidianSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
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#234From what Bill is saying we are probably screwed..If EZstreet wont share the balance and activity sheet, which they wont, then another book cant make us a better offer because they lack the players account information..so it sounds to me that any possible bailout will only come if ezstreet decided to share information..did anyone interpret what Bill said differently than me?Comment -
Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
- 12-14-05
- 13764
#235EZ Street's announcement that there would be a bailout only to offer a deposit bonus with rollover that should make them money, has added a speedbump in the process. Seeing how they already had the players on their system, if they were considering paying at least some everyone has to wait and see. Also, they won't share the balance and activity list so another book can offer something better where the player actually gains.Comment -
Dwayne74SBR Rookie
- 12-19-12
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#236The notion that other books cannot facilitate a bi bailout bc ez street has all the player info and balances is 100% false. The info is all over the place. It has been posted on another forum and the balances have been confirmed as accurate by dozens of players.Comment -
JasonDCSBR Sharp
- 12-06-12
- 391
#237Does this surprise you? i heard that when beted closed down they could have got a bailout for their players but they didnt want to give up their database..it looks like nobody cares about doing what is best for the industry. If i dont get any bailout and end up losing my money im going to make some calls and contact some people to see what i can do to help screw this industry.Comment -
HedgeHogSBR Posting Legend
- 09-11-07
- 10128
#238Which forums? I'd like to see if I can find my balance there.Comment -
BranchDavidianSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
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pensfan1919SBR High Roller
- 04-08-12
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#240That list isn't complete.
My account info isn't on there.
I am sure others are missing as well.Comment -
TheGamblerSBR Wise Guy
- 07-16-06
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#242I know this may sound stupid but $1.5M could be shared across 4 major books. Allow the four books to review the list and basically start taking turns picking the accounts they would like to take on. At some point, all four will get some of the sharp action but for the most part, their risk should be minimized. Let's be real, the majority of us will continue to lose money but as Jason has pointed out, they will never see another penny from me until this is resolved. It would be my assumption that these four books would automatically rise to the top of the industry and for the small investment of $375K, they would get a lot of PR.Comment -
nosniboR11SBR Posting Legend
- 09-02-08
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#243bill sbr does not need any help from any posters to look bad on this situation
SBR looks real badComment -
BetterBiznessSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-20-06
- 5737
#244I know this may sound stupid but $1.5M could be shared across 4 major books. Allow the four books to review the list and basically start taking turns picking the accounts they would like to take on. At some point, all four will get some of the sharp action but for the most part, their risk should be minimized. Let's be real, the majority of us will continue to lose money but as Jason has pointed out, they will never see another penny from me until this is resolved. It would be my assumption that these four books would automatically rise to the top of the industry and for the small investment of $375K, they would get a lot of PR.Comment -
slashSBR MVP
- 08-10-05
- 1000
#245The major books already got their advertising for free. The best that could happen for them was that BI closed.
I know this may sound stupid but $1.5M could be shared across 4 major books. Allow the four books to review the list and basically start taking turns picking the accounts they would like to take on. At some point, all four will get some of the sharp action but for the most part, their risk should be minimized. Let's be real, the majority of us will continue to lose money but as Jason has pointed out, they will never see another penny from me until this is resolved. It would be my assumption that these four books would automatically rise to the top of the industry and for the small investment of $375K, they would get a lot of PR.Comment
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