I hope after today game, people would give Netherlands some respect. I'm tired of people saying Netherlands is OVERRATE, LUCKY, and have NOT beat a good team.
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TurkzZ
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01-07-09
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#2
after today's game, they are defiantly OVERRATED, LUCKY, and have NOT beat a good team , 2nd goal was offside, dirtiest team of the tournament for sure, spend more time rolling around the floor, Spain will send them packing ,
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suckerforparlays
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02-15-10
4536
#3
Netherlands is not overated lmao
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thespeculator
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09-09-08
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#4
the first time saw robben going down the wing ,there is nothing rated about that guy, he moves like randy moss
great team
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Karayilan9
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01-10-09
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#5
Can't wait to fade them in the final
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mihaita666
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09-13-09
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#6
Overrated or not, lucky or not, they are one match away from winning the Cup.
Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
2010-2011 season (soccer) : 144-95-11
NBA Record (2010-2011 season) : 17-12-1
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Capybara
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08-17-08
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#7
So in order to make the point that Netherlands is NOT overrated and lucky, you title your thread "Netherlands is OVERRATED and LUCKY" ?????
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TurkzZ
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01-07-09
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#8
vs Spain or Germany, it will get nasty, the refs will clock on to that dirty basta*d van bommel as well
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SaffaCappa
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11-18-09
1149
#9
Netherlands are .......... in the WORLD CUP FINAL BABY!
Got a +1200 future on them winning the whole thing
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Rixsaw
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10-23-08
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#10
Originally posted by mihaita666
Overrated or not, lucky or not, they are one match away from winning the Cup.
If I can get +900 at my book, I will definitely take them.
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Rixsaw
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10-23-08
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#11
Originally posted by TurkzZ
after today's game, they are defiantly OVERRATED, LUCKY, and have NOT beat a good team , 2nd goal was offside, dirtiest team of the tournament for sure, spend more time rolling around the floor, Spain will send them packing ,
They are in the final and still not getting any respect?
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TurkzZ
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01-07-09
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#12
Germany made the final in 2002 and didn't get any respect..... deservedly so, bit of a easy nothing final in the end
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English Bloke
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12-04-08
128
#13
Originally posted by TurkzZ
after today's game, they are defiantly OVERRATED, LUCKY, and have NOT beat a good team , 2nd goal was offside, dirtiest team of the tournament for sure, spend more time rolling around the floor, Spain will send them packing ,
I normally respect your words of wisdom Turkzzzzzzzzz, but you're sending me sleep buddy . The Dutch have just reached the world cup final. I've watched the second goal about 12 times and it's marginal at best. Sit back and think about it. They can win the world cup, just like any other team that has reached the final. The final is a knock-out. Its 50-50.
I personally think that Spain will win the final, but that mean's jack shit when it comes down to it. The Dutch have shown an unnerving ability to win games
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Nard Dog
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05-18-10
315
#14
Really not liking the Netherlands. Can't believe I will be forced to root for Germany to win it all. I hope the final goes to PK's and they announce a tie after a 100 PK's so no one wins...
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COOGI
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05-05-10
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#15
Originally posted by Rixsaw
I hope after today game, people would give Netherlands some respect. I'm tired of people saying Netherlands is OVERRATE, LUCKY, and have NOT beat a good team. Netherlands
yeah after today Netherland for the worldcup champion
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CoZalon
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03-17-10
340
#16
Bet of the week = Netherlands + Germany @ 4,7
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Socrates
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02-24-10
923
#17
Cashed in on these mofo's today. Good job Holland.
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EaglesPhan36
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12-06-06
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#18
Don't know about over rated - but definitely riding a streak of lucky bounces. Those don't last forever.
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English Bloke
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12-04-08
128
#19
Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
Don't know about over rated - but definitely riding a streak of lucky bounces. Those don't last forever.
EP, what are you talking about? Lucky bounces !!! This is not basketball, this is a game where by the best team has won. If you look at all footie games as lucky bounces, 50% of all results should be re-adjusted.
The team that won 3-2 has won, because they managed to put a lump of round leather into an area of netting more than the other team.
That's football. Sometimes it's frustrating, but logic and form go out the window in a WC semi-fimal....
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Dirty Sanchez
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03-01-10
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#20
Netherlands has got great talent, but the diving and faking is getting out of hand. Eventually they'll dive once too often and it will cost them. I thought Ronaldo and Company were bad, but the Dutch are absolutely brutal with their diving.
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English Bloke
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12-04-08
128
#21
Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
Netherlands has got great talent, but the diving and faking is getting out of hand. Eventually they'll dive once too often and it will cost them. I thought Ronaldo and Company were bad, but the Dutch are absolutely brutal with their diving.
Come on buddy!! You're talking about one player. Robben?? The rest of team are as hard as nails
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EaglesPhan36
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12-06-06
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#22
Originally posted by English Bloke
EP, what are you talking about? Lucky bounces !!!
The own goal against Brazil. Lucky that the goalie and defender bounced into each other to allow the ball to go in. The 2nd goal today bounced off two defenders and almost hit a Dutch player in the box - if it hits the Dutch player, the goalie was in pretty good position to stop it and that was the play I think he was trying to make. Those are lucky. I didn't say a win isn't a win, but they have had more than their fair share of luck in the last two matches. It might last another match and they win it all, but my point is that I don't necessarily think they have outplayed their opposition over the course of the last two matches - but they have been in the right place at the right time. I just have not been impressed by their overall play personally. They have great individual talent, but you can see how they get frustrated when things are not happening for them. I just don't see them working enough to go against a team like Spain that is usually superbly patient. That's why I think Germany would be a much better match-up for Netherlands due to the pace they like to play at. Just my two cents.
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Lexis
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09-05-06
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#23
Overrated or not, lucky or not, they are the only team that won all matches in this tournament.
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DwightShrute
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01-17-09
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#24
on a 25-0 run they are
you are bound to catch a break or 10 along the way
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English Bloke
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12-04-08
128
#25
Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
The own goal against Brazil. Lucky that the goalie and defender bounced into each other to allow the ball to go in. The 2nd goal today bounced off two defenders and almost hit a Dutch player in the box - if it hits the Dutch player, the goalie was in pretty good position to stop it and that was the play I think he was trying to make. Those are lucky. I didn't say a win isn't a win, but they have had more than their fair share of luck in the last two matches. It might last another match and they win it all, but my point is that I don't necessarily think they have outplayed their opposition over the course of the last two matches - but they have been in the right place at the right time. I just have not been impressed by their overall play personally. They have great individual talent, but you can see how they get frustrated when things are not happening for them. I just don't see them working enough to go against a team like Spain that is usually superbly patient. That's why I think Germany would be a much better match-up for Netherlands due to the pace they like to play at. Just my two cents.
EP, I'm with you. Yes, the Dutch have had a few breaks along the way. The bottom line is that they have won the game. The best and "luckiest" teams do this in football. It's not an exact science. They have had had the right breaks, but this could be enough to win the WC. It's complex. The professional game is pretty amateur wihen it comes to officials. Even our own Rugby League (A bit like American football,but without armour) uses video technology. The bottom line is it's Holland v Spain/Germany. From a pure betting point of view - DONT BET ON CUP GAMES..........
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lakerboy
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04-02-09
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#26
You have to be lucky to win this tourney. Every team that has won this tourney has had lots luck. 2006 italy had tons of luck. 2002 Brazil had luck as well (belgium game). 1998 france got luck as well( golden goal). 1994 brazil got luck as well(pk's). 1990 Germany had luck as well. (pks in semis and non penalty call in the final). 1986 argentina(hand of god goal) 1982 Italy (lucky v brazil) 1978 argentina( peru match)
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beanbag
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01-21-10
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#27
they just won the world cup!
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Taka
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06-29-10
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#28
Originally posted by TurkzZ
...dirtiest team of the tournament for sure, spend more time rolling around the floor...
You sure you are not talking about Uruguay?
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English Bloke
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12-04-08
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#29
Originally posted by lakerboy
You have to be lucky to win this tourney. Every team that has won this tourney has had lots luck. 2006 italy had tons of luck. 2002 Brazil had luck as well (belgium game). 1998 france got luck as well( golden goal). 1994 brazil got luck as well(pk's). 1990 Germany had luck as well. (pks in semis and non penalty call in the final). 1986 argentina(hand of god goal) 1982 Italy (lucky v brazil) 1978 argentina( peru match)
Nice Call Lakerboy. It's Cup Football!
In England we have the FA Cup. A team full of carpenters and plumbers can beat a team of proffesionals on the day. Luck plays a major part. Play online roulette and get 15 reds on the bounce. It's the equivalent of New Zealand getting a draw against Italy. Luck, whatever probability this calculates to be will play apart in possession, shots on target, goals scored and yellow cards (future suspensions). Now we can bet our ass off to predict the outcome, but the beauty is, we just don't know.
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hostile takeover
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12-06-09
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#30
Except for Brazil, whoever made the final from this side of the bracket would've been called lucky or overrated. Yes they deserve to be in the final, but you can't deny that the majority of the talented teams come from the other side of the bracket.
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wikkidinsane
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05-30-10
13799
#31
Damn we missed De Jong in that defnsive mid today. he will be in the final babe! Nederlands missed a lot of chances, it could have easilt been 5-2. Hey Uruguay Backers
If we face Germany in finals, I will be worried. If Spain, I will be betting 30 units +
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Kemalettin
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03-20-10
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#32
didnt like to todays game
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Dark Horse
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12-14-05
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#33
Originally posted by TurkzZ
after today's game, they are defiantly OVERRATED, LUCKY, and have NOT beat a good team , 2nd goal was offside, dirtiest team of the tournament for sure, spend more time rolling around the floor, Spain will send them packing ,
Dumbest post I've come across on this forum. And that's saying a lot.
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Scorpion
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09-04-05
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#34
Spain will beat Netherlands
Netherlands always chokes in the final