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  • Karayilan9
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    • 01-10-09
    • 3742

    #771
    Brazil Serie A - Barueri vs Sao Paolo - Over 2.5 goals @ -120 (1.80) / Barueri -0
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    • kmarinouofm
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-26-09
      • 8437

      #772
      wow.. fing USA.. i want to puke
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      • kmarinouofm
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-26-09
        • 8437

        #773
        karyilan i hope you lived bet the USA game as a hedge.. i took the over 2.5 and the 3.5 live... thank GOD.. made some money on this game on the game over 2 and the two live bets
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        • HarleyDavids
          SBR High Roller
          • 06-24-09
          • 113

          #774
          1 out of 5 , Im bleeding today.
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          • kmarinouofm
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-26-09
            • 8437

            #775
            so pissed that bet us didn't offer a live over 4.5 i was going to keep playing it till the wheels fell off
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            • HarleyDavids
              SBR High Roller
              • 06-24-09
              • 113

              #776
              Care to explain this closer ? (Win & draw) ?

              Barueri -0


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              • kmarinouofm
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-26-09
                • 8437

                #777
                Barueri-0 is basically Barueri pk. he is not playing it on a win or draw.. also known as 1 x 2 odds... which is when you can bet either team to win in regulation or the draw..

                He is taking Barueri -0 on the Asian Odds... therefore taking away the possibility of a draw bet.. in Asian odds , its like NFL both teams have a spread..
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                • HarleyDavids
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 06-24-09
                  • 113

                  #778
                  Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                  Barueri-0 is basically Barueri pk. he is not playing it on a win or draw.. also known as 1 x 2 odds... which is when you can bet either team to win in regulation or the draw..

                  He is taking Barueri -0 on the Asian Odds... therefore taking away the possibility of a draw bet.. in Asian odds , its like NFL both teams have a spread..
                  My shitty bookie doesn't offer asian HCP , but I guess i could cover it with a ML bet on Barueri and a "cover" bet on draw.
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                  • Karayilan9
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                    • 01-10-09
                    • 3742

                    #779
                    Brazil Serie A - Fluminese vs Cruzerio - Cruzerio -0 @ +100 (2)

                    Brazil Serie A - Vitoria vs Coritiba - Vitoria Win @ -130 (1.7)
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                    • Karayilan9
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                      • 01-10-09
                      • 3742

                      #780
                      Lady luck deserted me today, Santos game was 0-0 until 75th minute! Mexico penalty wasn't a penalty, Cruzeiro hit about every post, had countless one on ones and even missed open goals but at least that was a push. Barueri missed ridiculous chances....

                      3-6 today, 8-6-2 for the weekend, it was a poor weekend but at least a profit was made during this rough patch.

                      Also, as I explained on page 1. In soccer I highly recommend you hedge, if you bet the Under2.5 goals at the start of the game and it is 0-0 hedge it at half time, if you bet the Over2.5 goals at the start of the game and there are 2 goals hedge it at half time. The hedge will only take a tiny cut of your profits but long term will stop the very unlikely losses like what happened today with the Under. Long term you save yourself alot! I've saved $1000's doing this and it makes games alot less stressfull, refer to page 1 for an in-depth explanation of this.

                      Current Record: W 126. P 11. L 76
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                      • HarleyDavids
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 06-24-09
                        • 113

                        #781
                        When I have cleared the bonus on the bookie i play on right now I will surely take my money and leave. They has to have the worst live betting I have ever seen, and a few of Karayilan's picks today wasn't even up for live play! Anyways, I took a gamble and ploughed some money into Vitoria ML, and bounced back a bit. So now I can at least afford a rope if I feel like hanging myself.
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                        • kmarinouofm
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 8437

                          #782
                          Originally posted by Karayilan9
                          Lady luck deserted me today, Santos game was 0-0 until 75th minute! Mexico penalty wasn't a penalty, Cruzeiro hit about every post, had countless one on ones and even missed open goals but at least that was a push. Barueri missed ridiculous chances....

                          3-6 today, 8-6-2 for the weekend, it was a poor weekend but at least a profit was made during this rough patch.

                          Also, as I explained on page 1. In soccer I highly recommend you hedge, if you bet the Under2.5 goals at the start of the game and it is 0-0 hedge it at half time, if you bet the Over2.5 goals at the start of the game and there are 2 goals hedge it at half time. The hedge will only take a tiny cut of your profits but long term will stop the very unlikely losses like what happened today with the Under. Long term you save yourself alot! I've saved $1000's doing this and it makes games alot less stressfull, refer to page 1 for an in-depth explanation of this.

                          Current Record: W 126. P 11. L 76

                          spoken like a true gangster... keep it up homie.. you can't go 8-2 or 7-3 every weekend.. but at least you were smart enough to get it back with live betting.. I usually don't have this luxury and most of us in the USA don't either.. however i was able to do this today in America game..
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                          • Karayilan9
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-10-09
                            • 3742

                            #783
                            Do you get to bet in-game in the US books on soccer lines Kmarinouofm? if you could find a book that does it will be a big advantage.
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                            • linglingfool
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 06-10-09
                              • 326

                              #784
                              Naturally I didn't play yesterday, played today, and went heavy on the US. LOL! Keep doing what you're doing, Karaylian!
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                              • Karayilan9
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-10-09
                                • 3742

                                #785
                                Some key tips that will save you thousands long term.

                                1. Make sure you can bet in-game

                                2. Make sure you watch the games

                                3. If you bet Under 2.5 goals, if the score is 0-0 at half time, generally the odds will have dropped so low that it can be hedged for only a tiny fraction of your profit. If you very strongly about the Under at half time still judge the game wisely, for example if a key defender is sent off and the team is under serious pressure, avert the disaster, the odds to hedge by now are so low it will hardly make any impact to the profit. If you see tactical switches and changes that you didn't factor when you were capping the game, be smart and hedge. You can make a small profit on the other side aswel doing this just in-case of worst case scenario.

                                4. If you bet Over 2.5 goals, if 2 goals are scored by half time, judge the game and if you want to play it safe hedge it as the odds will have dropped so low it won't have an impact on the profit. A game that is 2-0 at half time is very likely to go Over but observe tactical switches, changes and substitutes at half time, if you don't like the way the game looks to be heading hedge, it will be a small dent in the profit but worth it compared to a big loss.

                                5. If you bet a team ML and your team is winning by 2 goals hedge it, last thing you want is to loose a wager in which the team was up 2-0 and ends up drawing or loosing. A team that goes 2-0 up will have such low odds that the hedge will hardly be felt on the profit.

                                Ofcourse there is no way out if you bet an Under2.5 and 2 goals have been scored at half time, or if your team is loosing 3-0 in the 30th minute but using what I described above can save thousands upon thousands long-term especially if you are wagering with high stakes. Even if these unlikely events happen lets say 10-20 times in a year, say these were relatively big plays and you put $1000-2000 a game, the hedge will only cost max $60-80 a game but would save, $10-40K
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                                • HarleyDavids
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 06-24-09
                                  • 113

                                  #786
                                  Thanks Karayilan for your advice above , excellent information as always from you.
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                                  • Karayilan9
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-10-09
                                    • 3742

                                    #787
                                    Sweedish league: Halmstad vs Malmo - Under 2.5 goals LOSS (Push with the hedge) -120 (1.8) / Malmo -0 +100 (2) WIN

                                    Malmo is one of the biggest sides in Sweeden but hasn't won in 7 games, the team has had trouble finishing, they had many chances last game but couldn't manage a win. Now they are facing the same team but on the road, every Malmo away game has gone Under, the two teams forms are similar, Halmstad drew 5 of their last 5 games, Malmo drew 4 and lost 1. Malmo want a win here but Halmstad have a pretty solid defense, only letting in 2 goals in the last 5 games while only scoring 2 aswel. I don't think Malmo will loose this game but they may have difficulties scoring.
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                                    • Spaceviews
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 06-04-09
                                      • 799

                                      #788
                                      Until I can raise A little more funds I'm stuck with the Greek. They've got the total at (2)+117 & a draw option (Which they don't offer often) at +225. I took both & Malmo (pk)-110. AS SOON AS I CAN I'M SWITCHING BOOKS!! The Greek does'nt offer Live betting on Soccer either. Anyway, Lets break a leg!!!!
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                                      • Karayilan9
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-10-09
                                        • 3742

                                        #789
                                        Hedging these Under2.5 goals has saved me bucket loads this week, yesterday the Under2.5 in Santos crashed and burned in the last 10 minutes, today it was even worse! Malmo was winning 1-0 until the 88th minute until they decided to score 2 goals in 2 minutes, it was ridiculous!

                                        This is why I say its important to hedge when the Under is in your favor, I got a push and win due to hedging, it was the difference between making a profit and breaking even.
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                                        • kmarinouofm
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 8437

                                          #790
                                          Originally posted by Karayilan9
                                          Hedging these Under2.5 goals has saved me bucket loads this week, yesterday the Under2.5 in Santos crashed and burned in the last 10 minutes, today it was even worse! Malmo was winning 1-0 until the 88th minute until they decided to score 2 goals in 2 minutes, it was ridiculous!

                                          This is why I say its important to hedge when the Under is in your favor, I got a push and win due to hedging, it was the difference between making a profit and breaking even.
                                          Pay attention Class.. the Professor is Speaking!!!
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                                          • SexyMit
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-12-06
                                            • 6139

                                            #791
                                            I'm about to enroll in the class! I didn't realize that this soccer thread has it going on over here!
                                            If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                            I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                                            • kmarinouofm
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 8437

                                              #792
                                              Originally posted by SexyMit
                                              I'm about to enroll in the class! I didn't realize that this soccer thread has it going on over here!


                                              yo sexy good news bro!! I checked my calendar I am going to be in Vegas the weekend of the Bash for that Bachelor party so we are going to have to meet up for sure!!!!
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                                              • SexyMit
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-12-06
                                                • 6139

                                                #793
                                                Cool man, now we need to get CK down there as well...
                                                If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                                I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                                                • Karayilan9
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 01-10-09
                                                  • 3742

                                                  #794
                                                  First leg games of Champions League teams of relatively equal strenghts usually end in a an Under2.5 goals, the potential money on the line causes teams to play a cautious, tight game and not give any cheap goals away. If a team scores they are likely to play defensive and defend that precious goal.


                                                  CL Qualifiers: Sparta Prague vs Panathanaikos - Under 2.5 goals -130 (1.7) / Panathanaikos -0 -125 (1.75)

                                                  Under 2.5 goals (possibly -0 Panathanaikos), the Czechs have a solid defense but trouble on the offensive side, Panathanaikos traditionaly don't do well on the road in Europe and will be happy to settle for a draw or snatch a sneaky win and finish the tie off at home.


                                                  CL Qualifiers: FK Baku vs Levski Sofia - Under 2.5 goals -120 (1.8) / FK Baku -0 +125

                                                  The oil and energy rich country of Azerbaycan has been investing heavily in soccer the last few years, the seeds they planted are starting to grow and the fastest growing of these teams is FK Baku. They have quite a good squad, a few Brazilians, other south americans and local boys, last few games they have been impressive. Levski are in turmoil, they just sacked their manager and there is discontent in the team. I think Levski will get a shock today, it won't be what there expecting, soccer is growing fast in the Azerbaycan and they have alot of ties with experienced coaches and staff from Turkey as they both speak the same language and have alot of ties. The Baku stadium will be rocking tonight, the ticket prices have been slashed and the biggest ultra groups are being bought in. I think they could surprise Sofia but its likely to go Under2.5 goals aswell as these teams don't have a huge quality difference. The last Baku home games were 0-0 until the 60-70th minute then when the opposition let in a goal they crumbled. Levski is a more experienced and quality squad than Baku's last opponents, they shouldn't collapse if they let in a goal. This game won't be a push over for Levski like alot of people think in my opinion, we could have a surprise here.



                                                  CL Qualifiers: FK Aktobe vs Maccabi Haifa - Under 2.5 goals -120 (1.8)

                                                  Aktobe, an up and comming Kazak team, they are another team growing in power, they have had a great home record in their domestic league and qualifiers, they are yet to loose at home and all these games have gone Under 2.5 goals and they only conceded 1 goal. Maccabi Haifa are not good travellers and this will be a trip half way across asia to play in the scorching heat in a place most the players would never have heard of before. Haifa have the experience and a better squad but will want to close this game out with a draw or sneak a win and finish the tie off at home were they will be much more comfortable.


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                                                  • HarleyDavids
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 06-24-09
                                                    • 113

                                                    #795
                                                    Thx Karayilan, Il tail you on the FK Baku -0. My bookie doesn't offer any live play on any of your picks. Do you have any of the unders you feel stronger for or should I just leave the unders alone all together ?
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                                                    • Karayilan9
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-10-09
                                                      • 3742

                                                      #796
                                                      I like the Under in all these games but if I had to choose one it would be Panathanaikos Under.
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                                                      • linglingfool
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 06-10-09
                                                        • 326

                                                        #797
                                                        Tailing on everything except the Panathanaikos under, since my book changed it to under 2 while I was placing the wager (which would have made me feel pretty good about it had I gotten it!). BOL!
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                                                        • HarleyDavids
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 06-24-09
                                                          • 113

                                                          #798
                                                          Originally posted by Karayilan9
                                                          I like the Under in all these games but if I had to choose one it would be Panathanaikos Under.
                                                          Thx , Karayilan
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                                                          • Karayilan9
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-10-09
                                                            • 3742

                                                            #799
                                                            FK Baku game 0-0 at half time, been a pretty uneventful game, just what we wanted to see, Levski Sofya has been the better side but Baku had a few dangerous breaks.

                                                            The Under can now be hedged, for example

                                                            Back Under2.5 @ $1000 X -120 (1.8) = $800
                                                            Lay Under2.5 @ $1000 X -1000 (1.1) = $100

                                                            Total profit = $700

                                                            Total possible loss = $0

                                                            If you want you can wait till the Under drops further and then hedge it, 10 mins into the 2nd half if there is no goal the hedge will cost around $50-60.
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                                                            • Spaceviews
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 06-04-09
                                                              • 799

                                                              #800
                                                              The Friigin Greek had both the Baku & the Aktobe unders at (2). I took'em both. Lets Break a leg!!! Wow! the Panath. under just dropped to (2) as well!!!
                                                              I'm taking it anyway!! Oh, & LETS BREAK A LEG!!!!!!
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                                                              • Karayilan9
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-10-09
                                                                • 3742

                                                                #801
                                                                Let's break a leg
                                                                Baku game, went Under and they drew for the push.

                                                                The Aktobe game is 0-0 at half time, were able to hedge it again if you wanna play it safe.
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                                                                • kmarinouofm
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                                  • 8437

                                                                  #802
                                                                  i laid off the under because it dropped to 2 at my book
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                                                                  • linglingfool
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 06-10-09
                                                                    • 326

                                                                    #803
                                                                    Prague scores in the 26' and the 35'. Not looking good.
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                                                                    • Vreston
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-12-09
                                                                      • 1428

                                                                      #804
                                                                      For the record, Panathinaikos lost 3-1. They played terribly. I saw the game. Hope you guys did well in the other matches.
                                                                      They have a chance to make it up in Athens next week. If they get their sh*t together they can pull it off.
                                                                      As of today I'm officially on vacation so I don't have much access to the internet.
                                                                      BOL!
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                                                                      • Karayilan9
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 01-10-09
                                                                        • 3742

                                                                        #805
                                                                        Baku and Aktobe matches went Under2.5 but Panathanaikos players went AWOL today, more Champions League qualifiers tomorrow.
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