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  • olemissbydamn
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-27-12
    • 838

    #491
    That was even nervous than the full bet with my hedge. I had under 2 and with all of those chances to push it I was freaking out. So glad that it ended like that. Sorry for everyone that took the over and didn't hedge. Honestly expected a lot more from Costa Rica. PHEW is all I can say about that game for me.
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    • O
      SBR MVP
      • 01-21-12
      • 1980

      #492
      Gotta love it...... CR -3, O/U 3.5. 1-0 and because an OG.
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      • cogiditopapa
        SBR MVP
        • 08-03-10
        • 3489

        #493
        Shit happens, o well moving on.... Martinique +1 and Panama ML...
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        • Jaszaafca
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 04-04-13
          • 635

          #494
          Originally posted by O
          Gotta love it...... CR -3, O/U 3.5. 1-0 and because an OG.
          Tim Cahill bro.
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          • olemissbydamn
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-27-12
            • 838

            #495
            Originally posted by cogiditopapa
            Shit happens, o well moving on.... Martinique +1 and Panama ML...
            I like Panama ML, I want to look at the Mexico matchup more though. May be safer to take Mexico -1 and deal with maybe getting a push. Martinique doesn't have much to play for at this point and Mexico is finding their form after the last game.
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            • biff
              SBR MVP
              • 08-10-10
              • 1806

              #496
              i have been playing a lot of crazy +600 alt lines on overs in these games. a lot of crazy +900 draws and even betting underdogs straight up. when those sank i have been playing a lot of underdogs with crazy numbers like +3.5/4 goals etc. these are winning.

              gotta break up your routine a bit or you won't be betting long.

              just my advice. i could have bought two decent cars, a boat and a nice big hdtv with how much i lost so far (only including offshore). so i would ignore my advice playing dogs plus goals and just focus on:

              break up your betting routine from time to time

              good luck
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              • Akatana
                SBR MVP
                • 05-05-13
                • 1307

                #497
                Originally posted by biff
                i have been playing a lot of crazy +600 alt lines on overs in these games. a lot of crazy +900 draws and even betting underdogs straight up. when those sank i have been playing a lot of underdogs with crazy numbers like +3.5/4 goals etc. these are winning.

                gotta break up your routine a bit or you won't be betting long.

                just my advice. i could have bought two decent cars, a boat and a nice big hdtv with how much i lost so far (only including offshore). so i would ignore my advice playing dogs plus goals and just focus on:

                break up your betting routine from time to time

                good luck
                Agreed!
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                • theballsflop
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-22-13
                  • 1483

                  #498
                  Lol. Any analysis on the next matches?
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                  • olemissbydamn
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-27-12
                    • 838

                    #499
                    @ biff I'm not so sure if it's about routine as much as it is about diversity of your bets. It's like the stock market in your way, the more bets you make the less risky (in a way) your day is, because some can cover, some may not, but risking everything on 1 bet is certainly not the way to go.

                    As far as the games we have today, I don't think there is anyway you can bet on Canada, and I like the under in that game as well. Also my line right now for Martinique is +1.5, but I'm going to wait it out and see if maybe people will jump on Mexico and push it to 2, which I would then definitely take Martinique.
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                    • swordsandtequila
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-23-12
                      • 9758

                      #500
                      Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                      I like Panama ML, I want to look at the Mexico matchup more though. May be safer to take Mexico -1 and deal with maybe getting a push. Martinique doesn't have much to play for at this point and Mexico is finding their form after the last game.
                      It's Canada that doesn't have anything to play for, they can't advance. Martinique will advance with a win, and they rank 1st among third place teams, subject to change of course. That said I don't see any value with Mexico, they're too damn inconsistent and I don't trust them to win by two (-1 is -166 @ 5Dimes). As of now I'm passing. Love to see Martinique knock them off, no offense to those on Mexico.

                      I'm on Panama ml +104. Don't know what the books see with Canada but I'll take Panama at plus money all day long. They still have a reason to play, group winner gets a better matchup next round (in theory anyway). Also threw a little on -.5/-1 + 139.

                      Good luck to everyone.
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                      • swordsandtequila
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-23-12
                        • 9758

                        #501
                        Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                        @ biff I'm not so sure if it's about routine as much as it is about diversity of your bets. It's like the stock market in your way, the more bets you make the less risky (in a way) your day is, because some can cover, some may not, but risking everything on 1 bet is certainly not the way to go.

                        As far as the games we have today, I don't think there is anyway you can bet on Canada, and I like the under in that game as well. Also my line right now for Martinique is +1.5, but I'm going to wait it out and see if maybe people will jump on Mexico and push it to 2, which I would then definitely take Martinique.
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                        • O
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-21-12
                          • 1980

                          #502
                          Is everyone expecting a draw? The line for Canada +.5 keeps going up?
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                          • frugalgambler
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-30-13
                            • 3418

                            #503
                            Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                            It's Canada that doesn't have anything to play for, they can't advance. Martinique will advance with a win, and they rank 1st among third place teams, subject to change of course. That said I don't see any value with Mexico, they're too damn inconsistent and I don't trust them to win by two (-1 is -166 @ 5Dimes). As of now I'm passing. Love to see Martinique knock them off, no offense to those on Mexico.

                            I'm on Panama ml +104. Don't know what the books see with Canada but I'll take Panama at plus money all day long. They still have a reason to play, group winner gets a better matchup next round (in theory anyway). Also threw a little on -.5/-1 + 139.

                            Good luck to everyone.
                            I think Canada is due to score and I am not sure Panama can score easily vs Canada. Canada has nothing to lose so they should come out to redeem themselves.
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                            • swordsandtequila
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-23-12
                              • 9758

                              #504
                              Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                              It's Canada that doesn't have anything to play for, they can't advance. Martinique will advance with a win, and they rank 1st among third place teams, subject to change of course. That said I don't see any value with Mexico, they're too damn inconsistent and I don't trust them to win by two (-1 is -166 @ 5Dimes). As of now I'm passing. Love to see Martinique knock them off, no offense to those on Mexico.

                              I'm on Panama ml +104. Don't know what the books see with Canada but I'll take Panama at plus money all day long. They still have a reason to play, group winner gets a better matchup next round (in theory anyway). Also threw a little on -.5/-1 + 139.

                              Good luck to everyone.
                              Should amend that statement; Canada can advance by claiming one of the two 3rd place finishers to qualify, although it will take an act of whatever god you believe in to do so. Doesn't change my opinion.
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                              • olemissbydamn
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-27-12
                                • 838

                                #505
                                Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                I think Canada is due to score and I am not sure Panama can score easily vs Canada. Canada has nothing to lose so they should come out to redeem themselves.
                                Canada's team is a bunch of kids. They haven't won a game yet and these players are not experienced enough to be resilient. They are missing their best players, and know they pretty much have no chance of being that 3rd place team in the group that advances. I am thinking either draw or Panama, but I do not believe Canada will best them. For a team not expected to do all that much in the Gold Cup, going undefeated in group stages would be quite a feat for the Panamanians.
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                                • swordsandtequila
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-23-12
                                  • 9758

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                  I think Canada is due to score and I am not sure Panama can score easily vs Canada. Canada has nothing to lose so they should come out to redeem themselves.
                                  Panama scored 2 against Mexico, 1 against Martinique and has 1 goal against. Canada is scoreless and gave up 2 and 1, respectively. Obviously small sample size and no guarantee, but plus money against a bad team doesn't make me want to bet the other way. Which means Canada will probably win 3-0
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                                  • frugalgambler
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-30-13
                                    • 3418

                                    #507
                                    Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                    Canada's team is a bunch of kids. They haven't won a game yet and these players are not experienced enough to be resilient. They are missing their best players, and know they pretty much have no chance of being that 3rd place team in the group that advances. I am thinking either draw or Panama, but I do not believe Canada will best them. For a team not expected to do all that much in the Gold Cup, going undefeated in group stages would be quite a feat for the Panamanians.
                                    Kids can play with abandon. I am not gang-ho on Panama ML. Ditto with Mexico; no teams looked consistent, except for USA and believe it or not Haiti (you know they will be playing open soccer in every match). Live betting or no betting for me.
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                                    • frugalgambler
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-30-13
                                      • 3418

                                      #508
                                      Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                      Kids can play with abandon. I am not gang-ho on Panama ML. Ditto with Mexico; no teams looked consistent, except for USA and believe it or not Haiti (you know they will be playing open soccer in every match). Live betting or no betting for me.
                                      That being said, Olemiss you have a hot hand in Goldcup. What are your leans for today ?
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                                      • olemissbydamn
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-27-12
                                        • 838

                                        #509
                                        Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                        That being said, Olemiss you have a hot hand in Goldcup. What are your leans for today ?
                                        Can't take Canada, just can't. I'm look at either a draw or Panama ML. May just do Panama DNB to cover my ass on that and hope I'm right about Canada not winning.
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                                        • brooks85
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #510
                                          got panama 1/canada 1 or panama 1/canada 0
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                                          • olemissbydamn
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-27-12
                                            • 838

                                            #511
                                            I just fired in the bet on a draw.
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                                            • O
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-21-12
                                              • 1980

                                              #512
                                              So I have about 3.5K IF Panama hits from a Multitude of parlays. My max play is only $500 in soccer which BLOWS. Does anyone see Canada actually winning? How should I hedge? $500 on Canada +.5 AND Draw for $500? I need help!
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                                              • olemissbydamn
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-27-12
                                                • 838

                                                #513
                                                Originally posted by O
                                                So I have about 3.5K IF Panama hits from a Multitude of parlays. My max play is only $500 in soccer which BLOWS. Does anyone see Canada actually winning? How should I hedge? $500 on Canada +.5 AND Draw for $500? I need help!
                                                Well technically I hedged my draw bet by taking Panama -.5 because I can't see Canada winning. I just didn't think it made sense to post both plays, but I guess I should since I made it also.

                                                EDIT: I did it like this because the DNB had too much juice. I'm pretty much playing a Panama Win No Bet in a sense that I win more money from a draw and lose a little bit if Canada should shock me here.
                                                Last edited by olemissbydamn; 07-14-13, 02:28 PM.
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                                                • TheMLBKing
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-20-13
                                                  • 1129

                                                  #514
                                                  I put under 3.5 for panama/canada in a parlay....what do you guys think?
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                                                  • olemissbydamn
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-27-12
                                                    • 838

                                                    #515
                                                    Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                                    I put under 3.5 for panama/canada in a parlay....what do you guys think?
                                                    I like it
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                                                    • MatI
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-17-11
                                                      • 5200

                                                      #516
                                                      some big late movement against Panama.
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                                                      • olemissbydamn
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 09-27-12
                                                        • 838

                                                        #517
                                                        Originally posted by MatI
                                                        some big late movement against Panama.
                                                        Probably because of the starting lineup with all the changes. Panama resting starters and giving some other guys a shot seeing as they only really need 1 point and can get that from a draw.
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                                                        • MatI
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-17-11
                                                          • 5200

                                                          #518
                                                          Most likely you are right. I am surprised it moved so much though because I didnt think the starting line up was a huge surprise at all.
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                                                          • olemissbydamn
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-27-12
                                                            • 838

                                                            #519
                                                            Well Panama would certainly like to make a statement that they are one of the best teams in CONCACAF so an initial thought could of been they would come at them and try to get a big result to continue to further that notion.
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                                                            • swordsandtequila
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-23-12
                                                              • 9758

                                                              #520
                                                              What a f*king joke. Actually started pulling for Canada to net one late, would have served Panama right. Poetic justice when coaches over-think and get bit in the ass. US should be ashamed of themselves if they don't steamroll these teams, much less win it.
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                                                              • olemissbydamn
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-27-12
                                                                • 838

                                                                #521
                                                                Yeah disappointed I hedged the full draw but still came out +.9 units so I'm ok with it.

                                                                Martinique +1.5 seems the way to go for me, I already fired it in. We REALLY don't know what form Mexico is in a 2-0 win over Canada doesn't mean much. Martinique is watching the goal differential and will pack it in and try to slow the game down like they did against Panama and if Mexico falls in that trap they might be able to be caught on a counter. If Mexico keeps the pace of the game fast it will be interesting to see how Martinique plays they are certainly talented and athletic enough but around that 70th minute is when that fast place can sometimes get to you if its still 0-0 by then. Mexico using attacking formation, almost the same as they've used the whole tournament.
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                                                                • brooks85
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 44709

                                                                  #522
                                                                  at least the under hits, going with mexico 0/martinique 0 and mexico 1/martinique 0
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                                                                  • brooks85
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                                    • 44709

                                                                    #523
                                                                    damn, looking like mexico/canada game.. just a matter of time before mexico puts one in
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                                                                    • DarkNite
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-12-09
                                                                      • 5023

                                                                      #524
                                                                      1-0 Mex
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                                                                      • olemissbydamn
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 09-27-12
                                                                        • 838

                                                                        #525
                                                                        Shame after such a great save the keeper gets no help from his defenders so one gets by. Martinique has looked dangerous though thought they should of had a goal with some of the chances but sometimes that's how it goes. HT lines will be interesting to look at depending how the rest of this half goes.
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