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  • DwightShrute
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-17-09
    • 102911

    #10536
    that's just NY

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New York City migrant crisis costs expected to exceed $5B in 2-year period — double to $10B by 2025 <a href="https://t.co/hiUMbeEbRB">https://t.co/hiUMbeEbRB</a></p>&mdash; Fox News (@FoxNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1823696814513541494?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 14, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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    • guitarjosh
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-25-07
      • 5770

      #10537
      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
      Are you really taking the advice of cocktail waitresses? Really? Think... Have you ever heard of someone being taxed more than they make? That is ludicrous. Someone making $15/hr full time would make $32,000 a year. Federal taxes and FICA on $32,000 is $4,406. That's $1,958 in Federal taxes and $2,448 in FICA. They would earn $27,594 after taxes and pay ZERO in state taxes in NV.

      Ironically, $32,328 is the income threshold for SNAP (food stamps) for a three person family. SNAP has nothing to do with how much in taxes you pay.

      Trump and Harris are both bullshitting you. Neither of them will EVER get a no tax on tips passed in congress. Do you know how difficult it would be to add the language and to also maintain/enforce. It's window dressing. It's a ruse to get people excited. It's not going to happen. Just another case of politicians lying to you.
      I’m not taking advice from a cocktail server, but believing what they say about their pay stub. The IRS isn’t stupid and knows that a significant amount of their money is from cash, so it tries to get a chunk of money. It’s done similarly to tipped workers for years.


      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
      You said most corporations are overtaxed. That is not true. It doesn't matter if they are publicly traded or not. If you make a lot of money in this country, there's a lot of ways to avoid tax. That's the bottom line. Paying off debt, rainy day funds, retention has nothing to do with it. Trickle down has had very little impact on the middle and lower income.

      Food stamps has NOTHING to do with taxes. Your taxable income has everything to do with how much taxes you pay. There is NO WAY POSSIBLE someone with low income is paying a high tax bill. That does not make sense. Sure, if you make $30k and have to pay $4k in taxes, that may seem high but someone making $300k is paying a lot more, most likely at least $85k in federal taxes on that $300k. The more you make, the more they take. If you make a little, you pay a lot less. The tax rates are very clear and easy to look up. Here you go...

      2023 tax rates for a single taxpayer

      [FONT="]For a single taxpayer, the rates are:[/FONT]
      [FONT="]
      10% $0 $11,000
      12% $11,001 $44,725
      22% $44,726 $95,375
      24% $95,376 $182,100
      32% $182,101 $231,250
      35% $231,251 $578,125
      37% $578,126 And up
      [/FONT]

      Waitresses are not some special category, where they're paying 50% in taxes. Anyone telling you that is lying to you. If they make between $11k and $44.7k they are paying only 12%.
      All I know is what I’ve been told. When someone tells me that they’re on food stamps and the government takes out $500-$1000 per bi-weekly check, we’ve got a problem.


      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
      All fans that donate to the Taylor Swift fund of at least $3,000 will get preferred seating at the event. All fans donating at least $10,000 will get floor seating. Any fans donating +$50k will get back stage passes. SEE HOW EASY THIS IS. The rich will exploit this while the poor waitress won't catch a break because she's making too little to notice.
      Again, the IRS is what defines tips vs regular income. I’ve already posted it in this thread. The only way a Swifty can “donate” at least $50,000 and get dinner with Taylor Swift, who will call it a tip and not pay taxes is if the IRS allows it. You do realize there are numerous examples of people convicted of tax evasion after they decided to say their income was $0 because they traded labor for it, it was gifts, etc right? The rich won’t exploit this at all, you’re just making it up.
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      • guitarjosh
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-25-07
        • 5770

        #10538
        Originally posted by khicks26
        If you were waiting on a Dumbass like Josh, wouldn't you feed him a line of BS to get a better tip out of him? Vegas waitresses are not stupid. They play clowns like Josh all the time. If he went to a strip club in Vegas he would leave a broke man with a bunch of IOU's.
        Yeah, that’s the logical explanation, people who have never met, who don’t know the other exist all have the same story, even the ones I only communicate with outside of their work and never tip.

        Can you imagine how outraged lying hypocrite Hicks would be if a corporation took so much of what workers made for the corporation the workers were on food stamps? That’s literally what our government is doing, and he defends it. Kind of like how he accuses me of living off other people while he has Stu Unger as his avatar. Stu never did anything for anyone but Stu, and lying hypocrite Hicks idolizes him.
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        • DwightShrute
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-17-09
          • 102911

          #10539
          How is this dude still on the air?

          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joy Reid is mad that Republicans want to fight racist discrimination against White people.<br><br>Joe Reid is a racist. <a href="https://t.co/ut0hR7yQos">pic.twitter.com/ut0hR7yQos</a></p>&mdash; Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) <a href="https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1823756001071493228?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 14, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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          • Hareeba!
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 07-01-06
            • 37119

            #10540
            It is hard to imagine a more clear-cut violation of the Constitution than jailing an American for expressing his political opinions.

            But, as a federal judge found, that is what happened to Donald Trump’s attorney-turned-adversary Michael Cohen in the summer of 2020.

            Americans can agree that the courts must provide an adequate remedy for that wrong, as argued in a new amicus brief at the Supreme Court on Wednesday.



            Despite all the coverage of Cohen, his unlawful imprisonment is an overlooked episode of the first Trump administration. A federal judge found that Cohen had been incarcerated in “retaliation” for his choice to speak critically of the president and ordered him to be released. But when Cohen filed a damages lawsuit against the individual officials responsible, two federal courts dismissed it, effectively ruling that there is no consequence for officials who imprison critics of the president.





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            • Hareeba!
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 07-01-06
              • 37119

              #10541
              Trump rally in North Carolina today with Mark Robinson

              A collection of quotes by Robinson and endorsed by Tump:

              If I was governor, we would pass a bill that says you can't have an abortion in North Carolina right now for any reason

              Some folks need killing. It's time for somebody to say it... It's a matter of necessity

              I absolutely want to go back to the America where women couldn’t vote

              Abortion is for women who “weren’t responsible enough to keep [their] skirt down or [their] pants up” and just want to keep “being on Easy Street” and “running to the club”

              Women who have abortions are guilty of “murder” and have “got blood on [their] hands”

              Transgender people are “just a drugged-up, dressed-up, made-up, cut-up man and woman… [They are] demonic”

              LGBTQ+ people are filth

              gay people having rights will lead to the “END of civilization”

              We are called to be led by men, not women



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              • Hareeba!
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-01-06
                • 37119

                #10542
                This is talking about a thing called the economy. So we are doing this as an intellectual speech. You are all intellectuals today. Today we’re doing it. And we’re doing it right now

                We are literally a third world nation.
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83686

                  #10543
                  How far left can the Country go? Moderate Joe was nothing near Moderate. Kamala as left as they come outside of Bernie Sanders.

                  VOTE ACCORDINGLY OR ELSE!!!


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                  • Hareeba!
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-01-06
                    • 37119

                    #10544
                    Originally posted by Hareeba!
                    If anyone is paying attention, the Trump/Vance campaign is currently at a standstill. While no one has offered a definitive explanation, I would wager it’s connected to Donald Trump’s outstanding debts to several cities from past campaign rallies. These unpaid balances could have funded vital services for blue-collar workers and city employees, including police, firefighters, and medical personnel for overtime. According to data compiled in 2019 by the Centers for Public Integrity, more than 12 cities are still waiting to receive these funds from the Trump Campaign.
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                    • BriGuy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-06-11
                      • 1556

                      #10545
                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                      All fans that donate to the Taylor Swift fund of at least $3,000 will get preferred seating at the event. All fans donating at least $10,000 will get floor seating. Any fans donating +$50k will get back stage passes. SEE HOW EASY THIS IS. The rich will exploit this while the poor waitress won't catch a break because she's making too little to notice.
                      Don't be a moron. The IRS has a very specific definition of what constitutes a "tip".

                      If Taylor Swift took thousands and thousands of dollars from fans in exchange for preferred seating or backstage passes, then those aren't tips (and you know it). If she tried to call all that "tips" on her 1040 then she would get audited so fast, Travis Kelce's head would spin.
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                      • Hareeba!
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 07-01-06
                        • 37119

                        #10546



                        The S&P 500 is now up 39% since this tweet.
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                        • DwightShrute
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-17-09
                          • 102911

                          #10547
                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� NEW <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FoxNews</a> POLL �� <a href="https://t.co/51VRWsxPNc">pic.twitter.com/51VRWsxPNc</a></p>&mdash; Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1823843510488850594?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 14, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                          • DwightShrute
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-17-09
                            • 102911

                            #10548


                            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FACTS <a href="https://t.co/xpN8NVZoSL">pic.twitter.com/xpN8NVZoSL</a></p>&mdash; Karli Bonne’ ���� (@KarluskaP) <a href="https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1823855169966129558?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 14, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                            • guitarjosh
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-25-07
                              • 5770

                              #10549
                              Originally posted by BriGuy
                              Don't be a moron. The IRS has a very specific definition of what constitutes a "tip".

                              If Taylor Swift took thousands and thousands of dollars from fans in exchange for preferred seating or backstage passes, then those aren't tips (and you know it). If she tried to call all that "tips" on her 1040 then she would get audited so fast, Travis Kelce's head would spin.
                              Yeah, using his logic, Taylor Swift can just call all money under $17,000 from any 1 person a cash gift and claim it's tax-free. I bet the IRS will go for that! I can't believe no one has thought of that before!
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-04-09
                                • 48368

                                #10550
                                Originally posted by BriGuy
                                There is no one single perfect solution but anyone being honest on the topic would agree that one party makes it much, much easier for illegals to come to the country and stay in the country than the other.
                                This is simply not true… Have you ever visited a border town? Lived in a border state? I’ve lived in 4 of them. Republicans are using it for politics only these days. Dems have presented several plans including one this year that Trump told them to not accept, because he wants it to continue to be an issue and not really improve the system.

                                It would take several pages to explain to you why we actually need easy immigration in some cases and more difficult in others. You can’t be a top country without top talent and here’s a newsflash. The US does not put out the top technical people in every field.
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48368

                                  #10551
                                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                  I’m not taking advice from a cocktail server, but believing what they say about their pay stub. The IRS isn’t stupid and knows that a significant amount of their money is from cash, so it tries to get a chunk of money. It’s done similarly to tipped workers for years.
                                  ^They are lying to you. NO ONE is getting more money withheld from their pay than they make.



                                  All I know is what I’ve been told. When someone tells me that they’re on food stamps and the government takes out $500-$1000 per bi-weekly check, we’ve got a problem.
                                  Food stamps has zero to do with tax withholding. If the government is taking $2k per month ($24,000 a year), there is no fukking way they are on food stamps. And they are most likely making close to 6 figures in taxable income. Please do the math.


                                  Again, the IRS is what defines tips vs regular income. I’ve already posted it in this thread. The only way a Swifty can “donate” at least $50,000 and get dinner with Taylor Swift, who will call it a tip and not pay taxes is if the IRS allows it. You do realize there are numerous examples of people convicted of tax evasion after they decided to say their income was $0 because they traded labor for it, it was gifts, etc right? The rich won’t exploit this at all, you’re just making it up.
                                  If the government allows zero tax on tips, millionaires will find ways to convert income into tips. Poor people will never stay ahead of the rich when it comes to taxes. This is a moot point. I’ve already told you this will NEVER get passed. It’s another lie by politicians on both sides. Read my lips… yeah right.
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 102911

                                    #10552
                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr">- <a href="https://t.co/4qC8RbMOTJ">pic.twitter.com/4qC8RbMOTJ</a></p>&mdash; ForAmerica (@ForAmerica) <a href="https://twitter.com/ForAmerica/status/1823787997474775353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 14, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-04-09
                                      • 48368

                                      #10553
                                      Originally posted by BriGuy
                                      Don't be a moron. The IRS has a very specific definition of what constitutes a "tip".

                                      If Taylor Swift took thousands and thousands of dollars from fans in exchange for preferred seating or backstage passes, then those aren't tips (and you know it). If she tried to call all that "tips" on her 1040 then she would get audited so fast, Travis Kelce's head would spin.
                                      Do I really have to break it down for you? You are sitting in row A3 and A4, Taylor Swift sings you several ballads, then serves you beer and alcohol, she then gives you a lap dance and you make it rain thousands of dollars. Is the IRS really going to tell you that you didn’t tip her.

                                      Let’s say I’m the top Cybersecurity expert in your field. Your company just had a security breach that is costing your company $25 million dollars a day. 2 weeks goes by, you are losing 100s of millions plus irate customers. I fly in from Timbuktu and save your company millions. You pay me whatever in salary but you tip me tens of millions for getting there quickly. The IRS cannot challenge that tip nor disallow it.

                                      You work for FedEx. They tell their customers to tip you instead of paying a salary. You end up making $200k in tips. You don’t think it should be taxed?
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                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-04-09
                                        • 48368

                                        #10554
                                        Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                        Yeah, using his logic, Taylor Swift can just call all money under $17,000 from any 1 person a cash gift and claim it's tax-free. I bet the IRS will go for that! I can't believe no one has thought of that before!
                                        You know why no one does it now? Because it is taxable. Once you open Pandora’s box and allow this, it will be the norm.
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                                        • khicks26
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-16-06
                                          • 45568

                                          #10555
                                          Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                          Yeah, that’s the logical explanation, people who have never met, who don’t know the other exist all have the same story, even the ones I only communicate with outside of their work and never tip.

                                          Can you imagine how outraged lying hypocrite Hicks would be if a corporation took so much of what workers made for the corporation the workers were on food stamps? That’s literally what our government is doing, and he defends it. Kind of like how he accuses me of living off other people while he has Stu Unger as his avatar. Stu never did anything for anyone but Stu, and lying hypocrite Hicks idolizes him.
                                          I don't think a waitress who deals with people all day long has to have met you to know your a douche bag. LOL

                                          That's what corporations do, and you defend it.

                                          So you have listened to nothing Mac has told you. How Josh of you!


                                          Attacking a dead poker player? WOW you got nothing. LOL
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                                          • DwightShrute
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 102911

                                            #10556
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                                            • khicks26
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-16-06
                                              • 45568

                                              #10557
                                              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                              You know why no one does it now? Because it is taxable. Once you open Pandora’s box and allow this, it will be the norm.
                                              Hegde funds could find a loophole in this to make their fees count as tips. Kind of what Josh does for a living. Now you know why his clown ass is pushing this.

                                              He doesn't care about the waitstaff, and this would only affect about 5% of working people. Just another Republican scam to make the rich, richer.
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                                              • khicks26
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-16-06
                                                • 45568

                                                #10558
                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                Both rich enough to fire striking workers, break the law, and get away with it then laugh about it.

                                                Is this the truth you're talking about?
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                                                • khicks26
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-16-06
                                                  • 45568

                                                  #10559
                                                  No Tax of Tips is garbage.


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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48368

                                                    #10560
                                                    Originally posted by khicks26
                                                    Hegde funds could find a loophole in this to make their fees count as tips. Kind of what Josh does for a living. Now you know why his clown ass is pushing this.

                                                    He doesn't care about the waitstaff, and this would only affect about 5% of working people. Just another Republican scam to make the rich, richer.
                                                    Actually it will only affect about 2% of working people and it would end up costing the 98% at least $200 billion a year. We keep talking about reducing the national debt but then politicians promise shit they know won't ever get passed and if it did would end up increasing debt.

                                                    But, it's just not Trump touting this. I think he mentioned it first. Harris has also come out with this shit. Pandering politics.
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 37119

                                                      #10561
                                                      $10M cash withdrawal drove secret probe into whether Trump took money from Egypt

                                                      Political appointees rejected efforts to search for additional evidence investigators believed might provide answers, then closed the case.


                                                      Five days before Donald Trump became president in January 2017, a manager at a bank branch in Cairo received an unusual letter from an organization linked to the Egyptian intelligence service. It asked the bank to “kindly withdraw” nearly $10 million from the organization’s account — all in cash.

                                                      Inside the state-run National Bank of Egypt, employees were soon busy placing bundles of $100 bills into two large bags, according to records from the bank. Four men arrived and carried away the bags, which U.S. officials later described in sealed court filings as weighing a combined 200 pounds and containing what was then a sizable share of Egypt’s reserve of U.S. currency.


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                                                      • khicks26
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-16-06
                                                        • 45568

                                                        #10562
                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                        Actually it will only affect about 2% of working people and it would end up costing the 98% at least $200 billion a year. We keep talking about reducing the national debt but then politicians promise shit they know won't ever get passed and if it did would end up increasing debt.

                                                        But, it's just not Trump touting this. I think he mentioned it first. Harris has also come out with this shit. Pandering politics.
                                                        Guess who wrote the bill? Ted Cruz!

                                                        Harris did say raise the min wage and that the no tip tax would be for lower wage workers.

                                                        But Yea she said it in Vegas and was pandering to the service workers union. Total BS.
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                                                        • BriGuy
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-06-11
                                                          • 1556

                                                          #10563
                                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                          This is simply not true…
                                                          Yeah, it is. You don't see republicans advocating for "sanctuary cities".
                                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                          Have you ever visited a border town? Lived in a border state? I’ve lived in 4 of them. Republicans are using it for politics only these days. Dems have presented several plans including one this year that Trump told them to not accept, because he wants it to continue to be an issue and not really improve the system.
                                                          The dems are panicked because it is an election year and border security might be an election day issue. So they are offering worthless solutions to try and make it look like they are doing something.

                                                          If they were serious about addressing the problem, they would have presented these plans 3 years ago.
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                                                          • BriGuy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-06-11
                                                            • 1556

                                                            #10564
                                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                            If the government allows zero tax on tips, millionaires will find ways to convert income into tips.
                                                            No, they really won't. As I stated before: the IRS has a set definition regarding what a tip is and who is eligible to receive them. There is no way whatsoever some corporate CEO is going to tell the IRS "oh yeah my $30 million salary last year was all tips."

                                                            That would be a great way to get audited and end up in jail.
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                                                            • Hareeba!
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 07-01-06
                                                              • 37119

                                                              #10565
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                                                              • BriGuy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-06-11
                                                                • 1556

                                                                #10566
                                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                Do I really have to break it down for you? You are sitting in row A3 and A4, Taylor Swift sings you several ballads, then serves you beer and alcohol, she then gives you a lap dance and you make it rain thousands of dollars. Is the IRS really going to tell you that you didn’t tip her.
                                                                The idiocy of this hypothetical situation proves the idiocy of your argument. Taylor Swift does not serve anyone alcohol nor does she perform lap dances.
                                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                Let’s say I’m the top Cybersecurity expert in your field. Your company just had a security breach that is costing your company $25 million dollars a day. 2 weeks goes by, you are losing 100s of millions plus irate customers. I fly in from Timbuktu and save your company millions. You pay me whatever in salary but you tip me tens of millions for getting there quickly. The IRS cannot challenge that tip nor disallow it.
                                                                Bullcrap. The IRS would absolutely, positively look at that as being payment from an employer to an employee (in this case, a contract employee) for services rendered and not a tip. Anyone stupid enough to call it a tip on their 1040 would get audited in a heartbeat - and would lose.

                                                                Tell me, what are you going to do if you fly in from Timbuktu, do your work, I pay you your miniscule salary and give you a big fat zero dollars in "tip"? If you are telling the government it's a tip, then you have zero legal recourse when I say "thanks so much for saving my business from bankruptcy! don't let the door hit you on the way out!!"
                                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                You work for FedEx. They tell their customers to tip you instead of paying a salary. You end up making $200k in tips. You don’t think it should be taxed?
                                                                I haven't said anything about whether or not I support the legislation. I am just pointing out that if the legislation passed, your absurd examples of rich people calling all their income "tips" is not even remotely realistic.
                                                                Last edited by BriGuy; 08-14-24, 10:36 PM.
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                                  • 48368

                                                                  #10567
                                                                  Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                                  Yeah, it is. You don't see republicans advocating for "sanctuary cities".
                                                                  The dems are panicked because it is an election year and border security might be an election day issue. So they are offering worthless solutions to try and make it look like they are doing something.

                                                                  If they were serious about addressing the problem, they would have presented these plans 3 years ago.
                                                                  What are your thoughts on Sanctuary cities? I get by your posts that you are against them. Do you know why they exist? Do you believe in the constitution? Under the constitution being an undocumented immigrant is not a crime. We cannot legally put someone in jail for being in this country illegally. These are civil violations, which can result in penalties, not jail. The US has chosen deportation as penalty. Think about it. Is it cheaper to have a sanctuary city, or to hire thousands of people to catch and release people who will end up back in your city next month? Also, how would you really feel if you catch and release these poor families with children and they end up dying, get raped, homeless, etc. Can you imagine seeing young kids in horrible conditions in Florida because they don't have a place to lay their heads. Immigration is a human rights issue. I know many people don't give a shit. These people are breaking the law, so if they die, they die but many people in this country will not stand back and watch young kids suffer. You tell me the solution?

                                                                  Our 2 party system is so fukked up that neither party can agree to do the right thing. The last real immigration bill was back under Ronald Reagan. Dems and Repubs have both been playing games with this. Several bipartisan bills that would have helped have all been scrapped the last 2 decades. You keep blaming the Dems but fail to realize that Trump basically killed a deal that would have curbed the flow of immigrants. That deal was in the works for several years now. The ONLY reason he did it was that he didn't want Biden to claim victory. He knew it was a great plan but his ambition to be president is greater than fixing the border. Party politics as usual. Like I said, both parties really don't want to fix the problem.
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                                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 48368

                                                                    #10568
                                                                    Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                                    No, they really won't. As I stated before: the IRS has a set definition regarding what a tip is and who is eligible to receive them. There is no way whatsoever some corporate CEO is going to tell the IRS "oh yeah my $30 million salary last year was all tips."That would be a great way to get audited and end up in jail.
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                                                                    You obviously are confused what a tip is and what is isn't. It isn't salary, like your post above. Here's the IRS' definition. You're smart. I'm sure you can come up with dozens of legal ways people can get paid via tips.


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                                                                    Tips are discretionary (optional or extra) payments determined by a customer thatemployees receive from customers.
                                                                    Tips include:• Cash tips received directly from customers.• Tips from customers who leave a tip through electronic settlement orpayment. This includes a credit card, debit card, gift card, or any otherelectronic payment method.• The value of any noncash tips, such as tickets, or other items of value.• Tip amounts received from other employees paid out through tip pools or tipsplitting, or other formal or informal tip sharing arrangement.

                                                                    Certain factors are used to determine whether payments constitute tips or servicecharges. The absence of any of the following factors creates a doubt as to whethera payment is a tip and indicates that the payment may be a service charge:
                                                                    • The payment must be made free from compulsion;• The customer must have the unrestricted right to determine the amount;• The payment should not be the subject of negotiations or dictated byemployer policy; and• Generally, the customer has the right to determine who receives thepayment.
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                                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                                      • 48368

                                                                      #10569
                                                                      Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                                      I haven't said anything about whether or not I support the legislation. I am just pointing out that if the legislation passed, your absurd examples of rich people calling all their income "tips" is not even remotely realistic.
                                                                      It would help if you actually read what I said. I never said rich people would call ALL THEIR INCOME TIPS. But you better believe they would reapportion a lot under a tips loophole.
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                                                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                                        • 48368

                                                                        #10570
                                                                        Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                                        The idiocy of this hypothetical situation proves the idiocy of your argument. Taylor Swift does not serve anyone alcohol nor does she perform lap dances.

                                                                        Tell me, what are you going to do if you fly in from Timbuktu, do your work, I pay you your miniscule salary and give you a big fat zero dollars in "tip"? If you are telling the government it's a tip, then you have zero legal recourse when I say "thanks so much for saving my business from bankruptcy! don't let the door hit you on the way out!!"
                                                                        Obviously, you are not a Swifty. She actually does lap dances at her concerts. She may not serve alcohol today but if that means you're going to tip her, why not?

                                                                        If you tip me nothing, then maybe I don't show up the next time you need my help. Most companies will tip ridiculously well in the case I just gave you. BUT the biggest issue is that if tips are not taxable, I DON'T HAVE TO REPORT THAT YOU TIPPED ME OR HOW MUCH YOU GAVE ME. How do you not see that this is an awful idea.

                                                                        Like I said, this is all a silly discussion. IT WILL NEVER, EVER HAPPEN. If you make money in this country, the government will always want to know about it and get their share. We keep talking about Illegal immigrants, well even when they make money here, they have to report and pay their share too. Death and taxes bro.
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