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OPTI, please stream you and your son talking about this. Hilarious. I have TWIN buddies that go back and forth all day and it’s funny. Brothers, business partners, friends, TWINS and they couldn’t be more different and they can’t even get personal because they are both ugly. lol

hehe. Yeah it gets funny here too. And it would be streamable when we get right into it! Tell my son all the time he should do a youtube channel. Slew, Dwight and Jt would love him

We can get well fired up about politics, but enjoy each others company more than just about anyone elses still.

Much more fun to argue when no one equates an opposing opinion to meaning the person is evil or whatever.

[DwightShrute]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“What media bias?” <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/80u5iFQRoT">pic.twitter.com/80u5iFQRoT</a></p>&mdash; Sophie Louise Delquié (@SophieDelquie) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/SophieDelquie/status/1823028663987671196?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spot the difference. <a href="https://t.co/tMACGYkBHN">pic.twitter.com/tMACGYkBHN</a></p>&mdash; Townhall.com (@townhallcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1823034559530737713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 12, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DwightShrute]

Meme of the year

[DwightShrute]

bravo!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My sincere apology to <a href="https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Kamal aHarris</a> for my behavior on <a href="https://twitter.com/YouTube?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@YouTube</a> <a href="https://t.co/KgPaYlfSZ6">pic.twitter.com/KgPaYlfSZ6</a></p>&mdash; Steven Crowder (@scrowder) <a href="https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1823002791029207368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 12, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Not Weird

[slewfan]

The Secret Service will usually tape up cameras for security reasons. They don't want citizens to be able to track the whereabouts of the people they are protecting. That is not unusual. I doubt she wasn't taping up the camera to steal a bunch of shit.

The SS is a bipartisan Federal organization sworn to protect US political leaders and their families. The secret service was established by Lincoln, ironically on the same day he was assassinated in 1865. Trumps bodyguards are the Secret Service. They blew it when he almost got killed.

I'm not outraged because I have not seen any evidence that they broke into her salon. Maybe if you can show some proof? So it looks like a misunderstanding, not some illegal hair raid.

Well, just because the owner of the salon said they broke in and used her bathroom does not mean it's true, right.?. I wonder who the secret service was protecting in front of that store by taping up the camera; for no reason. (?).

For someone who is not protecting the SS, you sure have a funny way of going about it.

[Itsamazing777]

Legal to who? You? Republicans? Dems? American Indians? You don't even live in the US. Who are you to tell me who's legal? Every person in this country got here undocumented, except the Indians who were here first. America was formed by millions of undocumented immigrants from the beginning. You do know that grandpa Trump entered the US illegally? He was an undocumented immigrant who left Germany, to dodge the fukking military. Trumps dad lied for years that they were from Scandinavia instead of Germany so that they could work with Jews.


On October 7, 1885, Friedrich Trump, a 16-year-old German barber, bought a one-way ticket for America, escaping three years of compulsory German military service. He had been a sickly child, unsuited to hard labor, and feared the effects of the draft. It might have been illegal, but America didn’t care about this law-breaking—at that time, Germans were seen as highly desirable migrants—and Trump was welcomed with open arms. Less than two weeks later, he arrived in New York, where he would eventually make a small fortune. More than a century later, his grandson, Donald Trump, became the 45th president of Friedrich’s adopted home.
Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s. None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. (His mother’s parents, from the remote Scottish Outer Hebrides, lived in a majority Gaelic-speaking community.)

Friedrich Trump came to the United States amid a flood of Germans—that year alone, an estimated 1 million made the journey to settle in America. It was, the Times reported, “the start of an adventurous life as a barber, restaurateur, saloonkeeper, hotelier, entrepreneur, gold rush prospector, shipwreck survivor and New York real-estate investor.”


He married a woman from his German hometown, Kallstadt, where his parents had owned vineyards, and attempted to return home with his fortune. But when his draft dodging came to the fore, the couple lost their Bavarian citizenship and were obliged to return to America for good. There, they had three children: Trump’s father, Fred, was the middle child. Born in the Bronx borough of New York City in 1905, Fred Trump was an all-American child who spoke no German. Later, he would become one of the city’s most successful young businessmen, amassing a fortune even as many around him slumped into financial ruin.


Trump’s international origins make him relatively unusual among American presidents. Of the last 10 presidents, only two—Trump and Barack Obama—have had a parent born outside of the United States. Trump’s own immediate family has been similarly international: Two of his three wives were naturalized American citizens, originally from the Czech Republic and Slovenia. Only one of his five children, Tiffany, is the child of two American-born citizens, while his daughter, Ivanka, is the first Jewish member of the First Family in American history.

We have laws now. The 1800s don't apply.
The problem with illegals is it makes everything more expensive for everyone else that pays their fair share and went about it the right way. Race has nothing to do with it. It's simple economics.

It's strange how you attack Trump for laws he may or may not have broken, but immigration laws don't matter. Very strange.

[Mac4Lyfe]

From cocktail servers in Las Vegas. After Trump made his claim, I was in Vegas and I asked one how much her taxes were. She told me she started every hour in the hole. I was shocked and asked several others and got the same story. They all claimed that they were taxed so much that they needed to make $10-$15 an hour in tips just to break even. I'm not claiming they're taxed by the hour, but that their taxes are so high they claim it breaks down to $10-$15 an hour.

Are you really taking the advice of cocktail waitresses? Really? Think... Have you ever heard of someone being taxed more than they make? That is ludicrous. Someone making $15/hr full time would make $32,000 a year. Federal taxes and FICA on $32,000 is $4,406. That's $1,958 in Federal taxes and $2,448 in FICA. They would earn $27,594 after taxes and pay ZERO in state taxes in NV.

Ironically, $32,328 is the income threshold for SNAP (food stamps) for a three person family. SNAP has nothing to do with how much in taxes you pay.

Trump and Harris are both bullshitting you. Neither of them will EVER get a no tax on tips passed in congress. Do you know how difficult it would be to add the language and to also maintain/enforce. It's window dressing. It's a ruse to get people excited. It's not going to happen. Just another case of politicians lying to you.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Most corporations in America aren't publically traded and have no stock to buy back. A lot will be put into paying off debt, making a rainy-day fund, passing it to the customer, or employee retention.


So you have no problem that someone who works full time gets hit with such a high tax bill that they need to be on food stamps?

The IRS defines tips, and unless Taylor Swift is going to only take donations, she can't call her income tips.

You said most corporations are overtaxed. That is not true. It doesn't matter if they are publicly traded or not. If you make a lot of money in this country, there's a lot of ways to avoid tax. That's the bottom line. Paying off debt, rainy day funds, retention has nothing to do with it. Trickle down has had very little impact on the middle and lower income.

Food stamps has NOTHING to do with taxes. Your taxable income has everything to do with how much taxes you pay. There is NO WAY POSSIBLE someone with low income is paying a high tax bill. That does not make sense. Sure, if you make $30k and have to pay $4k in taxes, that may seem high but someone making $300k is paying a lot more, most likely at least $85k in federal taxes on that $300k. The more you make, the more they take. If you make a little, you pay a lot less. The tax rates are very clear and easy to look up. Here you go...

2023 tax rates for a single taxpayer

For a single taxpayer, the rates are:

10%	$0	$11,000
12%	$11,001	$44,725
22%	$44,726	$95,375
24%	$95,376	$182,100
32%	$182,101	$231,250
35%	$231,251	$578,125
37%	$578,126	And up

Waitresses are not some special category, where they're paying 50% in taxes. Anyone telling you that is lying to you. If they make between $11k and $44.7k they are paying only 12%.

[Mac4Lyfe]

The IRS defines tips, and unless Taylor Swift is going to only take donations, she can't call her income tips.

All fans that donate to the Taylor Swift fund of at least $3,000 will get preferred seating at the event. All fans donating at least $10,000 will get floor seating. Any fans donating +$50k will get back stage passes. SEE HOW EASY THIS IS. The rich will exploit this while the poor waitress won't catch a break because she's making too little to notice.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Well, just because the owner of the salon said they broke in and used her bathroom does not mean it's true, right.?. I wonder who the secret service was protecting in front of that store by taping up the camera; for no reason. (?).

For someone who is not protecting the SS, you sure have a funny way of going about it.

I guess you didn't read where she gave them permission??? The dispute seems to be when she gave permission but she said her and her workers decided to not work that day because of the chaos. That kinda tells me that she gave them permission the day of the event. At worse, it looks like a misunderstanding. What proof do you have they broke in? Why would they break in after she gave them permission? Shit does not make sense. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I cannot say, nor can you say that they broke in. If someone from SS did indeed break in, they should face the consequences, which in most places would be a misdemeanor. Still nothing I would consider national news.

They were protecting Kamala Harris, the same way they protect Trump, Biden and their families. SS will always block out cameras, phones, flash photography, etc. when protecting political leaders.

I don't give a shit about some unknown SS officer(s). Why would I protect them (her)? I can step back, read all the facts and form an opinion. You think it's some federal offense that destroyed national security. I think you are overreacting. I think it was at worse a misdemeanor. Why should we give a fuk? Now if we start seeing waves of SS breaking into US citizens homes and businesses, then maybe you'd have a point. I haven't seen anything close to this happening before.

[Mac4Lyfe]

We have laws now. The 1800s don't apply.
The problem with illegals is it makes everything more expensive for everyone else that pays their fair share and went about it the right way. Race has nothing to do with it. It's simple economics.

It's strange how you attack Trump for laws he may or may not have broken, but immigration laws don't matter. Very strange.

The laws in 1885 still stands today. Millions of Germans entered the US ILLEGALLY. This is fact.
I've never said immigration laws don't matter. I don't think it's right for people to come into this country illegally and stay. But this is a complex issue. Republicans and Democrats have both been trying to address this issue. What they both won't tell you is that we actually need illegals entering this country. Without them, you wouldn't have food on your table. Who is going to mow your lawn, clean your house, take out your trash? Illegals do the shit jobs that you and I or our kids are not willing to do. Their cheap labor trickles down to all of us. Most people just don't want to know about that. If you rounded up every illegal and sent them home, the US economy would crash the next day.

What you really want is for those illegals to come in, make money then go back to their home countries. It's in our best interest to invest in those countries, so that they will go back.

[getaloadoffatso]

I guess you didn't read where she gave them permission??? The dispute seems to be when she gave permission but she said her and her workers decided to not work that day because of the chaos. That kinda tells me that she gave them permission the day of the event. At worse, it looks like a misunderstanding. What proof do you have they broke in? Why would they break in after she gave them permission? Shit does not make sense. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I cannot say, nor can you say that they broke in. If someone from SS did indeed break in, they should face the consequences, which in most places would be a misdemeanor. Still nothing I would consider national news.

They were protecting Kamala Harris, the same way they protect Trump, Biden and their families. SS will always block out cameras, phones, flash photography, etc. when protecting political leaders.

I don't give a shit about some unknown SS officer(s). Why would I protect them (her)? I can step back, read all the facts and form an opinion. You think it's some federal offense that destroyed national security. I think you are overreacting. I think it was at worse a misdemeanor. Why should we give a fuk? Now if we start seeing waves of SS breaking into US citizens homes and businesses, then maybe you'd have a point. I haven't seen anything close to this happening before.

My God you are an idiot
It would take 5 minutes for a child to look up what actually happened with the salon

But yet you still come on here spewing falsehoods and complete BS

What a shocker

[khicks26]

Are you really taking the advice of cocktail waitresses? Really? Think... Have you ever heard of someone being taxed more than they make? That is ludicrous. Someone making $15/hr full time would make $32,000 a year. Federal taxes and FICA on $32,000 is $4,406. That's $1,958 in Federal taxes and $2,448 in FICA. They would earn $27,594 after taxes and pay ZERO in state taxes in NV.

Ironically, $32,328 is the income threshold for SNAP (food stamps) for a three person family. SNAP has nothing to do with how much in taxes you pay.

Trump and Harris are both bullshitting you. Neither of them will EVER get a no tax on tips passed in congress. Do you know how difficult it would be to add the language and to also maintain/enforce. It's window dressing. It's a ruse to get people excited. It's not going to happen. Just another case of politicians lying to you.

If you were waiting on a Dumbass like Josh, wouldn't you feed him a line of BS to get a better tip out of him? Vegas waitresses are not stupid. They play clowns like Josh all the time. If he went to a strip club in Vegas he would leave a broke man with a bunch of IOU's.

[Hareeba!]

[khicks26]

[khicks26]

[khicks26]

[Hareeba!]

For those looking for a value bet come Nov 5, I suggest a small wager on Florida turning blue at around +400

[Hareeba!]

A long-standing critic of electric vehicles, Trump has shifted gears since Musk’s endorsement. On Monday, he described the electric cars made by Tesla as “incredible”.

Just amazing what money can do to change one's mind!

He also praised Russian President Vladimir Putin, Chinese President Xi Jinping and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un – all authoritarian strongmen – as at the “top of their game”.

How Patriotic!

[Hareeba!]

‘The dumbest climate conversation of all time’: experts on the Musk-Trump interview

Trump and Musk’s discussion on the climate crisis, therefore, “spelunked down into entirely new levels of stupidity”, according to Bill McKibben, a veteran climate activist and co-founder of 350.org. McKibben wrote it was “the dumbest climate conversation of all time”.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...nment_b-gdneco

[Itsamazing777]

For those looking for a value bet come Nov 5, I suggest a small wager on Florida turning blue at around +400

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Hey 777, do you think America would have a longer or a shorter coastline if the ocean level rose?

[jt315]

For those looking for a value bet come Nov 5, I suggest a small wager on Florida turning blue at around +400

[DwightShrute]

We have laws now. The 1800s don't apply.
The problem with illegals is it makes everything more expensive for everyone else that pays their fair share and went about it the right way. Race has nothing to do with it. It's simple economics.

It's strange how you attack Trump for laws he may or may not have broken, but immigration laws don't matter. Very strange.

this is what the crazy Left will do. They will always use the same talking points they have been brainwashed to believe. I swear these lunatics will tell you they believe just about anything. No matter how absurd it is. I know the video has nothing to do with immigration but it does illustrate the pure intellectual dishonesty the Left dishes out constantly. See video below.

I mean, I wasn't alive back in the days when boat loads of Jews, Irish, Italians etc came to America but I am able to do some homework and use my brain to understand that isn't comparable to what's happening now at the southern border. Back then America was just getting started and they needed people to build it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I mean, I wasn't alive back in the days when boat loads of Jews, Irish, Italians etc came to America but I am able to do some homework and use my brain to understand that isn't comparable to what's happening now at the southern border. Back then America was just getting started and they needed people to build it.

What the fukk are you talking about? The constitution has not changed. The constitution established a uniform rule of naturalization, which includes determining who can become citizens and under what conditions. Maybe you should read it.


The current southern border is exactly like the millions of undocumented people you mentioned that entered America through the Northeast. Just because Trump doesn't like Mexicans does not change our laws. Trumps family were undocumented and illegal back then and would have been today. His granddad was banned from Germany for being a draft dodger and fled to the US for asylum. Facts...

[Mac4Lyfe]

The problem with illegals is it makes everything more expensive for everyone else that pays their fair share and went about it the right way. Race has nothing to do with it. It's simple economics.

Of course illegal immigrants are a drain to our economy. BUT what are the solutions? This is not a new problem. US citizens have been complaining about immigration since the late 1800s. Politicians can only rant and rave about the problem but few REALLY understand the issues and really don't care about solving it. Both Dems and Repubs are not being honest. They pull on your emotions.

[d2bets]

this is what the crazy Left will do. They will always use the same talking points they have been brainwashed to believe. I swear these lunatics will tell you they believe just about anything. No matter how absurd it is. I know the video has nothing to do with immigration but it does illustrate the pure intellectual dishonesty the Left dishes out constantly. See video below.

I mean, I wasn't alive back in the days when boat loads of Jews, Irish, Italians etc came to America but I am able to do some homework and use my brain to understand that isn't comparable to what's happening now at the southern border. Back then America was just getting started and they needed people to build it.

America was just getting started in the early 1900's?

[JIBBBY]

Of course illegal immigrants are a drain to our economy. BUT what are the solutions? This is not a new problem. US citizens have been complaining about immigration since the late 1800s. Politicians can only rant and rave about the problem but few REALLY understand the issues and really don't care about solving it. Both Dems and Repubs are not being honest. They pull on your emotions.

The solution is to continue to build the wall, beef up border enforcement and reinstate 'REMAIN IN MEXICO". Deport illegals.. Just that simple.

Make it really hard for illegal immigrants to continue to come in. Consequences! They'll think twice about coming in the future if you do that.

Attack the Cartels running the border also and get Mexico on board or else.

[jt315]

Gen Election Poll
Harris 46% (+2)
Trump 44%
RFK Jr 3%

Economist/YouGov


@YouGov’s last poll was a D+6 and produced a Harris +2.


A week later, they had to overrepresent to D+10 to maintain a Harris +2.


She’s winning !

Who need press conferences and sit down interviews when you have the media providing cover and polls over sampling Dems to produce desired results ?


And she still only pulls only a +2 . Lol !


Gets those Queen K bets in now before she becomes Hillary like overwhelming favorite .

Sample used by @YouGovAmerica to get a Harris +2Democrats:

528 Democrat
487 Independent
389 Republican

[d2bets]

Gen Election Poll
Harris 46% (+2)
Trump 44%
RFK Jr 3%

Economist/YouGov


@YouGov’s last poll was a D+6 and produced a Harris +2.


A week later, they had to overrepresent to D+10 to maintain a Harris +2.


She’s winning !

Who need press conferences and sit down interviews when you have the media providing cover and polls over sampling Dems to produce desired results ?


And she still only pulls only a +2 . Lol !


Gets those Queen K bets in now before she becomes Hillary like overwhelming favorite .

Sample used by @YouGovAmerica to get a Harris +2Democrats:

528 Democrat
487 Independent
389 Republican

The average of 12 different national polls over the last week has Harris +2.3%.

[JIBBBY]

[jt315]

The average of 12 different national polls over the last week has Harris +2.3%.

RCP is + 1.1

With the latest Morning Consult poll (8/9-8/11) checking in at Harris +3 and Dems over represented by +5 .

See a pattern here ?

[Hareeba!]

The next you see or hear that Trump is unafraid to take questions from anybody …

[BriGuy]

Of course illegal immigrants are a drain to our economy. BUT what are the solutions?

There is no one single perfect solution but anyone being honest on the topic would agree that one party makes it much, much easier for illegals to come to the country and stay in the country than the other.