Man tries to pick up son from his exes house and gets shot twice by son’s Step-Dad

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  • chico2663
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    • 09-02-10
    • 36915

    #36
    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    He actually shot on the ground by his feet first. Not sure why the dead guy didn’t back up after that shot. Is it just me or did the gun sound like an air rifle? Maybe he thought it was a BB gun. It really sounded muffled.

    Weird how both girls kept recording while he was laying on the ground. Neither seemed shocked or cared that he was dead. Neither did the shooter. He just stood there like nothing happened. That video was weird, yet disturbing. Almost didn’t feel real.
    Stupid people aren’t afraid. 90% sure he was a trumpeter being from Lubbock.
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    • chico2663
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      • 09-02-10
      • 36915

      #37
      Originally posted by Foxx
      Lubbock is a shithole. May as well be in Detroit.
      I concur. Lubbock is to hillbillies what Detroit is to brothas.
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      • DiggityDaggityDo
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        • 11-30-08
        • 81450

        #38
        Sam Bassett, a criminal defense attorney in Austin, says this case is fairly complicated.

        "Texas does have a self-defense statute that's fairly pro-self-defense. There's no duty to retreat in a situation where you're defending your habitation," said Bassett. "So there's a lot of layers to this because you have habitation issues, you have the tempers, you have the size of the people involved."


        However, Bassett does point out that Christina Bassett was not being threatened physically.

        "There was no verbal provocation of deadly force. And then he did leave for some period of time and then came back into the situation with the firearm.

        And the close contact between the two of them certainly made it much more complicated and much more difficult to analyze," said Bassett.


        Bassett, who is not connected with this case, says the families’ history with each other will likely come into play, adding it’s a "coin flip" whether Carruth will even be prosecuted. If it does go to trial, he points out prosecutors will have the burden of proving this was not self-defense.


        Meanwhile, Chad Read’s widow, Jennifer, has filed a petition seeking custody of Read’s children from their mother, Christina.


        No arrests have been made, but the shooting remains under investigation by Lubbock Police.
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
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          • 04-04-11
          • 37327

          #39
          That's not Self-defense.

          Once beard-guy got separation, there's no need to pull the trigger. Once he was antagonized, he wanted to do it. Bit of Napolean complex, imho, that guy shouldn't be in Society.
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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          • Mac4Lyfe
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            • 01-04-09
            • 48377

            #40
            The definition of self defense is changing by the minute. It's really not about fearing for your life anymore. It's basically, we get in a fight/dispute, so I shot you. Crazy.
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            • Tuesday
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              • 05-03-11
              • 3695

              #41
              The issue is about the right of the property owner to control who is allowed or not allowed on his property.

              If the father of kid would have just stepped off the property like was told many times - he could have continued to yell for his son all he wanted to from the sidewalk.
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              • DiggityDaggityDo
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                • 11-30-08
                • 81450

                #42
                Originally posted by Tuesday
                The issue is about the right of the property owner to control who is allowed or not allowed on his property.

                If the father of kid would have just stepped off the property like was told many times - he could have continued to yell for his son all he wanted to from the sidewalk.
                I think his kid was already in the car. I could be wrong but pretty sure he was.

                Also, it wasn’t the shooter’s property. It was his girlfriend or fiance’s property. He was just visiting.

                This could get ugly if it goes to court

                Well, it’s already ugly. That poor kid will suffer from the mistakes/stupidness of all 4 adults that are raising him
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                • Tuesday
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                  • 05-03-11
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                  I think his kid was already in the car. I could be wrong but pretty sure he was.

                  Also, it wasn’t the shooter’s property. It was his girlfriend or fiance’s property. He was just visiting.

                  This could get ugly if it goes to court

                  Well, it’s already ugly. That poor kid will suffer from the mistakes/stupidness of all 4 adults that are raising him
                  Ok. Still, it is a case of telling people who are uninvited to leave - if the actual property owner told him to help her, or if she did not object to his protecting her and her property, he would be acting as her agent the same as if she hired a bouncer or security service for her and her property.

                  The main issue is of the dead guy will be considered a trespasser legally, if the killer isn't the property owner it will matter if the killer was acting as agent for they property owner - which it seems like he was since he not being charged for so long.
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                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                    • 04-04-11
                    • 37327

                    #44
                    If this scumbag gets off scot-free, I give up. He had time to think about it, and his decision was "Boom."
                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                    • Tuesday
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                      • 05-03-11
                      • 3695

                      #45
                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                      If this scumbag gets off scot-free, I give up. He had time to think about it, and his decision was "Boom."
                      I agree the killer had time to think about, anyone going to get their gun is definitely already thinking how to use it and not go to jail.

                      Killing is never good and killing people is even worse, but can't bring people back to life by getting revenge or justice or whatever the government tells people they doing for them to keep them safe - the government in every country is literally in the business of selling their citizens a false sense of security in exchange for their taxes(protection fees).

                      If individuals did not have the absolute right to defend themselves and their property from intruders, they would be forced to accept the role of victims each incident and hide hoping the police arrive in time - 2nd amendment allows for the chance of people protecting themselves, without it the government will always have the monopoly on use of force.

                      Having killers live in the community is not a happy thought, but realistically people kill people in our countries regularly, whether legally or illegally - lots of killers already living amongst us, not much else can be done about it except be vigilant and aware and always try to choose the safest way to live including being ready to act in self defence as well.

                      I doubt the killer will get convicted or even get charged, but I could be wrong.
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                      • Ebumdude
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                        • 11-15-12
                        • 2189

                        #46
                        Premeditated murder. Green shirt fella posed no threat to life or property.
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                        • DiggityDaggityDo
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                          • 11-30-08
                          • 81450

                          #47
                          Dead guy’s widow is now suing the shooter for $50 Million dollars.

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                          • ChuckyTheGoat
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                            • 04-04-11
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                            Dead guy’s widow is now suing the shooter for $50 Million dollars.


                            $50Mill? Why not $60M? I'm sure he has $50M in his piggy-bank.
                            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                            • The Kraken
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                              • 12-25-11
                              • 28918

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Tuesday
                              I agree the killer had time to think about, anyone going to get their gun is definitely already thinking how to use it and not go to jail.

                              Killing is never good and killing people is even worse, but can't bring people back to life by getting revenge or justice or whatever the government tells people they doing for them to keep them safe - the government in every country is literally in the business of selling their citizens a false sense of security in exchange for their taxes(protection fees).

                              If individuals did not have the absolute right to defend themselves and their property from intruders, they would be forced to accept the role of victims each incident and hide hoping the police arrive in time - 2nd amendment allows for the chance of people protecting themselves, without it the government will always have the monopoly on use of force.

                              Having killers live in the community is not a happy thought, but realistically people kill people in our countries regularly, whether legally or illegally - lots of killers already living amongst us, not much else can be done about it except be vigilant and aware and always try to choose the safest way to live including being ready to act in self defence as well.

                              I doubt the killer will get convicted or even get charged, but I could be wrong.
                              You're 100% wrong. He will be charged and convicted.

                              He wasn't defending himself nor his property from anything. He was the aggressor. Being shoved doesn't equate to an imminent life threat. After the guy tossed him asideC he was not moving towards the shooter. There was no threat. Ofc he'll be charged.
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                              • vitterd
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                                • 09-14-17
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                You're 100% wrong. He will be charged and convicted.

                                He wasn't defending himself nor his property from anything. He was the aggressor. Being shoved doesn't equate to an imminent life threat. After the guy tossed him asideC he was not moving towards the shooter. There was no threat. Ofc he'll be charged.
                                Careful, Tuesgay pretends to be a lawyer….even though he clearly doesn’t have a clue. Him and Morino both playing lawyer here is hilarious. Two losers that don’t have jobs and live with their mom.
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                                • DiggityDaggityDo
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                                  • 11-30-08
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                                  #51
                                  As of December 6, no criminal charges had been filed against Carruth or anyone else concerning the shooting.


                                  Crazy
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                                  • thomorino
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                                    • 06-01-17
                                    • 45842

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by vitterd
                                    Careful, Tuesgay pretends to be a lawyer….even though he clearly doesn’t have a clue. Him and Morino both playing lawyer here is hilarious. Two losers that don’t have jobs and live with their mom.
                                    Wrong, you are a dumb shit
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