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  • Jayvegas420
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    #1961
    .....and by the way freezer


    I did watch your video


    Would you watch mine now?
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    • brainfreeze
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      #1962
      Originally posted by Jayvegas420
      The only thing worse or more scary than a prophecy, is a self fulfilling one.
      I'm not a prophet .. So I don't know what u mean there..
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      • brainfreeze
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        #1963
        Originally posted by Jayvegas420
        .....and by the way freezer


        I did watch your video


        Would you watch mine now?
        Thats good, what is your take on it ? ...

        what video ?
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        • Jayvegas420
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          #1964
          I posted a link earlier in the thread.
          Religulous.

          Watch it & then I'll tell you what I thought of your video.
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          • muldoon
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            #1965
            If the bible said 2+2 = 5, I'd believe it
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            • brainfreeze
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              #1966
              Originally posted by Jayvegas420
              I posted a link earlier in the thread.
              Religulous.

              Watch it & then I'll tell you what I thought of your video.
              It would help if I knew where... A lot of material there..
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              • Jayvegas420
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                #1967
                https://Bill Maher - RELIGULOUS Full...[/url]
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                • brainfreeze
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                  #1968
                  I just get a blank page bud, but bill maher ?
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                  • raydog
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                    • 11-07-07
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                    #1969
                    religulous is a good watch and, obviously, i agree with bill on religious aspects and some human rights issues, but he is entirely too far left for my taste... since he donated to obama, you will find him arguing some completely fukking retarded stance that obama has taken and he makes himself look like a fool... he also misquotes the dumbest demo stats... he will actually argue about how great he thinks the unemployment rate is, while dodging and completely ignoring the real reason why the rate is low... fwiw, unless you live under a rock, its not because of new jobs or more people working
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                    • Jayvegas420
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                      #1970
                      While i agree with some of your points Ray, i kinda believe that because Maher donated to Obama, he feels a sense of entitlement when it comes to criticizing Obama. Which he does quite often.

                      I think your unemployment rate is lower because a larger portion of your population is working....?
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                      • raydog
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                        • 11-07-07
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                        #1971
                        oh i agree there too... he isnt afraid to bash obama at times... but will bash the pubs much more and do it when they have point.. he is frustrating to watch... the unemployment rate is low because less people are looking for jobs because they dont have to...welfare and the other shit ton of govt. assistance programs are enough for the lazy
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                        • The Kraken
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                          • 12-25-11
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                          #1972
                          Jay it's the way the unemployment #'s are calculated that show a falsely low unemployment rate

                          Kinda like there are two sides on a scale and you can manipulate the scale from either side, that's what is being done here with our reported unemployment rates

                          As Ray said, less people are looking for jobs, this means they're not calculated in the unemployment #'s


                          Who is counted as unemployed?

                          People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Actively looking for work may consist of any of the following activities:
                          • Contacting:
                            • An employer directly or having a job interview
                            • A public or private employment agency
                            • Friends or relatives
                            • A school or university employment center

                          • Submitting resumes or filling out applications
                          • Placing or answering job advertisements
                          • Checking union or professional registers
                          • Some other means of active job search



                          As long as you aren't looking, you're not unemployed, in Uncle Sams eyes. Just another form of manipulation.
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                          • muldoon
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                            #1973
                            Originally posted by The Kraken

                            As long as you aren't looking, you're not unemployed, in Uncle Sams eyes. Just another form of manipulation.
                            Unless the current admin changed the way the unemployment rate is calculated, it's apples to apples.

                            I recall Cheney downplaying the rising unemployment by claiming people were making a living selling stuff on Ebay.

                            The true unemployment rate is always 10-12% higher than what they claim (by some estimates)
                            Last edited by muldoon; 05-10-15, 10:52 PM.
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                            • The Kraken
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                              • 12-25-11
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                              #1974
                              Correct Mul. This has been used as the way to calculate unemployment since at least Clinton
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                              • Ra77er
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                                • 06-20-11
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                                #1975
                                I like to picture God as Yoda. I know he would love the same things I do. Yoda would party with you, play ball with you, knows your path even if its bumpy etc.


                                EDIT - It's a stark contrast to the GOD in churches.
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                                • Jayvegas420
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                                  #1976
                                  If people are happy to not work shitty jobs but they still want to enjoy luxuries like freshly picked fruit & 100% cotton shirts......

                                  Why does everyone complain when immigrants come to the U.S. to perform those jobs that make those luxuries available?

                                  Jobs that Americans wouldn't do, even if they weren't on Welfare?
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                                  • muldoon
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                                    #1977
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                                    • TheAntFather
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                                      • 03-14-11
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                                      #1978
                                      Religion is for the weak minded.
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                                      • raydog
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                                        #1979
                                        republicans killing any possible chance of putting someone at the helm... pushing the religious bullshit so hard now... its 2015... wake the fukk .. stop being gullibe sheep up and use some logic ... pushing voters away must be the new thing ... keep religion out of politics assholes
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                                        • brainfreeze
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                                          #1980
                                          “If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.”

                                          C.S. Lewis
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                                          • BOA12
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                                            #1981
                                            Evil people fear God-if there is one. Religious right are GOD FEARING. FEAR-False Evidence Appearing Real. wE LIVE IN hELL . YOUR JOB IS TO GET OUT AND NOT HAVE TO REPEAT IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. If you dont believe in A GOD-substitute MORALS-Shouldnt steal kill or most common use your unfair advantage to take advantage. So evil is fearing morals or spreading fear. Anything which is everything with a hierarchy is inherently evil by design-thank GOD for the cops women teachers mothers who serve and protect everyday to try and end this f_kkin hell.
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                                            • blackHIPPY
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                                              #1982
                                              If there is a "god" we defintely dont understand it
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                                              • blackHIPPY
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                                                #1983
                                                it is very cocky of us to pretend we could understand such a thing
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                                                • BOA12
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                                                  #1984
                                                  Almost sounds like God could be a woman-I dont understand them either
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                                                  • raydog
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                                                    #1985
                                                    on a daily, the bible is proven to be nothing but awful fiction...and for fukksakes, people need to stop forcing debunked bullshit on their kids and forcing them to fear imaginary holy powers and hell... its mental abuse... religion, itself, develops mental issues.... nobody ignores and attempts to refute hardcore facts, like the religious...

                                                    every miracle explained or completely debunked... none since the fictional book of bullshit was published.. shocker... still, excuses fly from the mouths of brainwashed illiterates who use 0 common sense to get through life...

                                                    over 26k dying of starvation daily... 2.6 stillbirths yearly... 9mil, under the age of 5, die every year... 100k, under the age of 15 , die of cancer every year...over 250k reported rapes in the us, alone, yearly... over 800 million starving right now ... i have more and more and more... still think this is the will of a higher power believing that something is controlling all of this is so ignorantly illogical...

                                                    you want to continue to look like a gullible fool, even when so many facts prove the bible is worthless bad fiction, thats great, but let the kids decide for themselves...it only takes reading scripture, that you would never ever hear in church, and it changes the whole idea.... let them learn about how immoral god and others were...the rapes, murders, beatings, slavery etc etc that the imaginary god both performed itself and gave orders for others to do and praised them for it... stop forcing them to believe and fear the same utter bullshit you and generations before you were forced to believe... let them use common sense and see the reality of the world and stop mind fukking them to death...
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                                                    • TheAntFather
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                                                      • 03-14-11
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                                                      #1986
                                                      Originally posted by raydog
                                                      on a daily, the bible is proven to be nothing but awful fiction...and for fukksakes, people need to stop forcing debunked bullshit on their kids and forcing them to fear imaginary holy powers and hell... its mental abuse... religion, itself, develops mental issues.... nobody ignores and attempts to refute hardcore facts, like the religious...

                                                      every miracle explained or completely debunked... none since the fictional book of bullshit was published.. shocker... still, excuses fly from the mouths of brainwashed illiterates who use 0 common sense to get through life...

                                                      over 26k dying of starvation daily... 2.6 stillbirths yearly... 9mil, under the age of 5, die every year... 100k, under the age of 15 , die of cancer every year...over 250k reported rapes in the us, alone, yearly... over 800 million starving right now ... i have more and more and more... still think this is the will of a higher power believing that something is controlling all of this is so ignorantly illogical...

                                                      you want to continue to look like a gullible fool, even when so many facts prove the bible is worthless bad fiction, thats great, but let the kids decide for themselves...it only takes reading scripture, that you would never ever hear in church, and it changes the whole idea.... let them learn about how immoral god and others were...the rapes, murders, beatings, slavery etc etc that the imaginary god both performed itself and gave orders for others to do and praised them for it... stop forcing them to believe and fear the same utter bullshit you and generations before you were forced to believe... let them use common sense and see the reality of the world and stop mind fukking them to death...
                                                      Exactly, I can't stand fkin christians and their bullshit. Always trying to get around my kids and take them to church and talk to them about god. My kids tell me who is jesus and I tell them "I don't know". They tell me who I believe in, I tell them I believe in myself. I always tell them to believe in themselves and not to believe in shit that you can't see. They're starting to come around, but the ex wife still trys to take them to church. It pisses me off beyond belief that she tries to brainwash them and make them weak minded to even try and believe in these fkin fairy tale stories that are ridiculous as shit.

                                                      I'm a Buddhist myself. I have friends that are buddhists, atheists, muslims, etc. They are all normal. None of them even come close to be as retarded and cucu like a christian person is.
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                                                      • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                        • 12-12-11
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                                                        #1987
                                                        Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                        “If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.”

                                                        C.S. Lewis
                                                        Welcome back freezer! But probably best not to get in a quote-off; in addition to being pretty meaningless sound bites, George Carlin alone has too much to say on the matter that's infinitely more entertaining and to the point

                                                        Originally posted by blackHIPPY
                                                        it is very cocky of us to pretend we could understand such a thing
                                                        The human imagination really isn't difficult to understand; examples are all around us, and we've all used it extensively throughout our lives...the only tough pat can be sorting out what's real and not, and even that's not difficult if you want to figure it out (not many do).

                                                        Originally posted by TheAntFather
                                                        Exactly, I can't stand fkin christians and their bullshit. Always trying to get around my kids and take them to church and talk to them about god. My kids tell me who is jesus and I tell them "I don't know". They tell me who I believe in, I tell them I believe in myself. I always tell them to believe in themselves and not to believe in shit that you can't see. They're starting to come around, but the ex wife still trys to take them to church. It pisses me off beyond belief that she tries to brainwash them and make them weak minded to even try and believe in these fkin fairy tale stories that are ridiculous as shit.

                                                        I'm a Buddhist myself. I have friends that are buddhists, atheists, muslims, etc. They are all normal. None of them even come close to be as retarded and cucu like a christian person is.
                                                        You might be surprised; seemingly rational people often keep their delusions pretty private for various reasons. I don't know what particular flavor of Buddhism you believe in, but by definition Buddhists believe in some supernatural stuff with as little basis in reality as Christianity or other major religions.
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                                                        • brainfreeze
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                                                          #1988
                                                          Originally posted by raydog
                                                          on a daily, the bible is proven to be nothing but awful fiction...and for fukksakes, people need to stop forcing debunked bullshit on their kids and forcing them to fear imaginary holy powers and hell... its mental abuse... religion, itself, develops mental issues.... nobody ignores and attempts to refute hardcore facts, like the religious...

                                                          every miracle explained or completely debunked... none since the fictional book of bullshit was published.. shocker... still, excuses fly from the mouths of brainwashed illiterates who use 0 common sense to get through life...

                                                          over 26k dying of starvation daily... 2.6 stillbirths yearly... 9mil, under the age of 5, die every year... 100k, under the age of 15 , die of cancer every year...over 250k reported rapes in the us, alone, yearly... over 800 million starving right now ... i have more and more and more... still think this is the will of a higher power believing that something is controlling all of this is so ignorantly illogical...

                                                          you want to continue to look like a gullible fool, even when so many facts prove the bible is worthless bad fiction, thats great, but let the kids decide for themselves...it only takes reading scripture, that you would never ever hear in church, and it changes the whole idea.... let them learn about how immoral god and others were...the rapes, murders, beatings, slavery etc etc that the imaginary god both performed itself and gave orders for others to do and praised them for it... stop forcing them to believe and fear the same utter bullshit you and generations before you were forced to believe... let them use common sense and see the reality of the world and stop mind fukking them to death...
                                                          Sounds like you want heaven on earth... Not happening until the 2nd coming of Christ. By the way Hi raydog...
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                                                          • brainfreeze
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                                                            #1989
                                                            Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                            Welcome back freezer! But probably best not to get in a quote-off; in addition to being pretty meaningless sound bites, George Carlin alone has too much to say on the matter that's infinitely more entertaining and to the point
                                                            Hey trip!! Been a while.. not looking to get into a quote off or anything of the like. Just putting things out there to think about.


                                                            The human imagination really isn't difficult to understand; examples are all around us, and we've all used it extensively throughout our lives...the only tough pat can be sorting out what's real and not, and even that's not difficult if you want to figure it out (not many do).

                                                            Trip, a over night life change, apparitions in the sky, and visions seen of people that are a 100% accurate is not imaginative, that's just a part of reality you aren't willing to accept at the moment, the scriptures are also 33 % prophecy .. Something you guys never study or break down, if it's bogus then it should be easy as pie to show it's all ... ...Imaginative

                                                            You might be surprised; seemingly rational people often keep their delusions pretty private for various reasons. I don't know what particular flavor of Buddhism you believe in, but by definition Buddhists believe in some supernatural stuff with as little basis in reality as Christianity or other major religions.
                                                            Trippity tripper...
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                                                            • TheAntFather
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                                                              #1990
                                                              Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                              Welcome back freezer! But probably best not to get in a quote-off; in addition to being pretty meaningless sound bites, George Carlin alone has too much to say on the matter that's infinitely more entertaining and to the point



                                                              The human imagination really isn't difficult to understand; examples are all around us, and we've all used it extensively throughout our lives...the only tough pat can be sorting out what's real and not, and even that's not difficult if you want to figure it out (not many do).



                                                              You might be surprised; seemingly rational people often keep their delusions pretty private for various reasons. I don't know what particular flavor of Buddhism you believe in, but by definition Buddhists believe in some supernatural stuff with as little basis in reality as Christianity or other major religions.
                                                              Buddhists don't believe in a God or in the supernatural. Not sure if your serious or not?

                                                              Last edited by TheAntFather; 08-11-15, 12:46 PM.
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                                                              • TheAntFather
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                                                                #1991
                                                                Buddhists believe in mankind and humanity. We believe in science and facts. To put it shortly, we believe in ourselves. We are very strong minded people. It was kind of an insult that you insinuated God and supernatural bs with Buddhism. I know you're a good guy though and you weren't trying to insult me like you do to bobby.
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                                                                • brainfreeze
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                                                                  #1992
                                                                  Originally posted by TheAntFather
                                                                  Buddhists believe in mankind and humanity. We believe in science and facts. To put it shortly, we believe in ourselves. We are very strong minded people. It was kind of an insult that you insinuated God and supernatural bs with Buddhism. I know you're a good guy though and you weren't trying to insult me like you do to bobby.


                                                                  Well you want to be with buddha up to u, but he's not the way, Christ was here before buddha and told you He is the way..just leave the matches alone please...

                                                                  Self-immolation appear to be an unusual though accepted Buddhist traditio in China and parts of South East Asia. There are numerous cases in Chinese history, especially during the Qing period, of such acts being performed as political protest (see Burning for the Buddha: Self-immolation in Chinese Buddhism by James A. Benn). In 1948 in the city of Harbin a monk seated himself in the lotus position on a pile of sawdust and soybean oil and set fire to himself in protest against the treatment of Buddhism by Mao Zedong’s Communists.
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                                                                  • brainfreeze
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                                                                    #1993
                                                                    Originally posted by TheAntFather
                                                                    Buddhists don't believe in a God or in the supernatural. Not sure if your serious or not?

                                                                    http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/qanda03.htm
                                                                    After reading some of that... It seems convenient they say no, we don't believe in God, but at the same time say they suspend judgment on such a thing. Haha

                                                                    The second reason the Buddha did not believe in a god is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god's words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god's nature, that their god exists and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found. Buddhists suspend judgement until such evidence is forthcoming.
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                                                                    • TheAntFather
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                                                                      #1994
                                                                      Why did these Tibetan martyrs choose such a horrible death rather than endure Chinese occupation?
                                                                      What alternative avenues of redress did these Tibetans have? China invaded and occupied Tibet with the promise that the future would be better than the past.

                                                                      All these Tibetans were born under Chinese occupation--they are new generation of Tibetans who should owe no allegiance to the Tibetan Government in exile because the life they lived were under full control of Chinese Government and occupation. Human beings, organizations and governments posit set of norms and laws that justify continuation.

                                                                      China and Chinese government have responded to these Tibetan protests with blinders, brutality and chauvinism. What justification is there for denying Tibetans basic human rights and autonomy?

                                                                      This has nothing to do with religion or Buddhism. This has to do with China invading and fking with the Tibetans. Not sure what you were trying to do here?
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                                                                      • TheAntFather
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                                                                        #1995
                                                                        Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                                        After reading some of that... It seems convenient they say no, we don't believe in God, but at the same time say they suspend judgment on such a thing. Haha

                                                                        The second reason the Buddha did not believe in a god is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god's words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god's nature, that their god exists and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found.
                                                                        Christianity has been around for two thousand years and, for the most part, it has preached a good message by which to live. But unfortunately, as with


                                                                        JIM JONES

                                                                        But that’s nothing compared to the 909 people, 276 of them children, who became enamored with the handsome charismatic founder of the Peoples Temple. James Warren Jones started out Methodist, and seemed to have fine intentions, endeavoring to bring about civil right for blacks and integrate American society. Somewhere along the line, he went patently insane. He was an aggressive narcissist, just as entries 1, 4, 7, 8, 9, and 10. He never claimed to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, and the only reason he founded the Peoples Temple was for the money he could make via his congregation.

                                                                        The strangest part is that his followers were not hopeless runaways or uneducated and uninformed. They were predominantly members of other Christian denominations, Methodism, Presbyterianism, Disciples of Christ, etc. They were taken in by his good looks and charm, and his ability to lead and convince.

                                                                        In 1974, the Temple went to Guyana, with only 50 members. But Jones promised others back in the States a tropical paradise, and they flocked by the hundreds to “Jonestown.” Because he had always been an outspoken communist sympathizer, and intended Jonestown to be a socialist save haven, he drew the attention of the U. S. Government.

                                                                        On November 17, 1978, investigating claims of abuse within the Temple, California congressman Leo Ryan went to Jonestown, and about 15 members wanted to leave with him. They attempted to depart via a nearby airstrip, and were fired upon by Temple security guards. Ryan was killed, along with four others, one a Temple member.


                                                                        When the shooters returned to Jonestown, Jones and accomplices were preparing a mass suicide by poisoning: Flavor Aid loaded with cyanide, phenergan, Valium and chloral hydrate.
                                                                        There are graphic pictures of the dead lying en masse outside the pavilion, 909 of them. The children were probably not told that the drink was poisoned. Jones shot himself in the head.
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