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  • ldrapeau
    SBR Hustler
    • 09-02-08
    • 68

    #106
    How many entrants as of 4-Sep-2008 10:30 EST

    Hi,

    Just curious to know how many registered participants are actually in this contest as of 4-Sep-2008 10:30 EST. Also, to make sure I understand, is it correct to say that for this week "the Prick" has picked only 3 games (Atl Fal +3, Ten Tit +3, Sou Flo -14) and has decided to pass on the "best bet" option allowing to score double for a game? Thanks, good luck to all!
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    • hhsilver
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-07-07
      • 7375

      #107
      Sean,

      I know the verification can take time with everyone trying to get registered during these days leading up to the first week. I am still listed as "pending" ( noon 9/4) after a 9/1 account open and deposit. If I am still listed as pending on Sat, will I be able to make my picks for week 1 even though the verification may happen later?

      ( sorry if this was covered in this long thread - I haven't reread the whole thread and I might have missed this)

      I mistakenly entered my account info a 2nd time and I have the same account listed twice with a contest credit of 8. I assume this won't be a problem and your software will catch this.
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      • konck
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-17-06
        • 12554

        #108
        Are we going to be able to see every ones picks thats a great tool
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        • SBR Lou
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-02-07
          • 37863

          #109
          Originally posted by konck
          Are we going to be able to see every ones picks thats a great tool
          Right now that's not in the cards, as there's been some decided feedback against this for those whom abuse the feature. Maybe if anything we'll roll in some consensus picks.
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          • picantel
            SBR MVP
            • 09-17-05
            • 4338

            #110
            I am also curious to know how many players we have this year. Can we get a count on the amount of competition. Also, is there any way to see the current scoreboard(I do not mean see specific picks just see who is +1,0,-1,ect)
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            • Marigold HD
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-03-07
              • 5053

              #111
              I hope this contest turns out well.....I see alot of mixed feelings
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              • rm18
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-05
                • 22291

                #112
                Yeh this year sucks without the scoreboard, also the format seems a little strange with everyone who beats the prick sharing, so if the Prick is 0-3-1 then over 90% of people win?
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                • onthewhat
                  Restricted User
                  • 05-14-08
                  • 15411

                  #113
                  Yeah its unlucky if you go 4-0 and the prick goes 1-3...thats the breaks I guess
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                  • gerry
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 08-10-06
                    • 27

                    #114
                    I have some quick questions, sorry if it's already answered in previous posts.
                    1. I have a las palmas account that opened several months ago, but never deposited. I have checked with their management that this account is considered new and if SBR approves they will have no question asked to confirm it. I want to make sure this is also fine with SBR.
                    2. For the extra cash bonus and winning, I'm wondering if it's provided by SBR or the sponsoring book. And they are all 'cash', not 'freeplay', right?
                    Thanks
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                    • bigboydan
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 55420

                      #115
                      WOW
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                      • picantel
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-17-05
                        • 4338

                        #116
                        Gonna be some happy and rich 4-0 people this week.
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                        • ldrapeau
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 09-02-08
                          • 68

                          #117
                          Essai - The math behind BTP

                          Hi,

                          I am going to try to explain the calculations involved, but please keep in mind that I'm not a math expert and may be wrong. I would appreciate feedback/explanations/clarifications if I've missed something.

                          Number of participants week 1: 136
                          Prick's score: 3
                          Participants that beat the Prick: 12 (10 with score of 5 and 2 with score of 4)

                          Since the Prick has 3 points, we must subtract 3 from all the participants points and pay the ones > 0

                          The guy who has 2 points should win a prize 2 times greater than the one who has one point (prize prorated to the number of points)

                          So (10 * X) + (2 * X / 2 ) = $5000.00

                          In other words if X is the prize for the guys in first position X/2 should be the prize for the guys in second position and if you add all prizes up you should get 5000.00.

                          (2 * X / 2) can be simplified to X (2 * 100 / 2 = 100)

                          So (10 * X) + X = 5000 or
                          11 * X = 5000 so
                          X = 5000 / 11
                          X = 454.545454


                          X = 454.55 (amount for guys with 5 points)

                          X / 2 = 227.27 (amount for guys with 4 points)

                          I think I've got it but maybe their is as simpler way to arrive to the same results.

                          Also a very big thanks to SBR for this superb contest, do you realize that they are giving out $85000.00 (I'm assuming that someone will always beat the prick - I feel pretty confident of that (17 / 200 = only about an 8% (I think - I may be wrong here again) chance that no one beats him for one week) between say 200 contestants, that is still an average of 425.00 per person just for putting in picks, and playing wisely your winnings... Many Thanks SBR!


                          What if only 2 contestants scored 5 and 10 scored 4, what would be the prize for each contestant? (according to this formula it should be 714.29 and 357.14)
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                          • Doc JS
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-15-06
                            • 6885

                            #118
                            Originally posted by picantel
                            Gonna be some happy and rich 4-0 people this week.
                            As one of the 4-0 people...Yes, I'm pretty happy this week.

                            Hated to pull FOR the Prick last night, but it's a simple matter of economics...the fewer people sharing the pie, the more pie for me!!!

                            GL to the winners!!! Now, it's one to next week!!!!

                            Doc
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                            • Cabo
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-07-06
                              • 5273

                              #119
                              Congrats to all the week 1 winners. I noticed my winnings were already in my account. Guess I don't have to wait to the end of week 7?
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                              • Dark Horse
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-14-05
                                • 13764

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Doc JS
                                As one of the 4-0 people...Yes, I'm pretty happy this week.

                                Hated to pull FOR the Prick last night, but it's a simple matter of economics...the fewer people sharing the pie, the more pie for me!!!

                                GL to the winners!!! Now, it's one to next week!!!!

                                Doc
                                Something told me you were in the winner's circle...

                                Go Prick go!
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                                • Doc JS
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-15-06
                                  • 6885

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Cabo
                                  Congrats to all the week 1 winners. I noticed my winnings were already in my account. Guess I don't have to wait to the end of week 7?
                                  Mine aren't?!?! Do I need to be worried???

                                  Doc
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                                  • SBR Contests
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-04-08
                                    • 725

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Doc JS
                                    Mine aren't?!?! Do I need to be worried???

                                    Doc
                                    No need to worry. All prizes should be credited within 24 hours.

                                    It appears that The Prick was in a surprisingly generous mood this morning and/or failed to read the posted policies regarding BTP prizes:
                                    All prize amounts will be credited to the contestants new sportsbook account and are subject to a 5x rollover as well as the Terms and Conditions of their chosen sportsbook. Weekly prize amounts will be credited twice throughout the season ... at the conclusion of NFL Week 7 and the conclusion of NFL Week 14.
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                                    • Scratch
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 08-19-07
                                      • 366

                                      #123
                                      Thanks to SBR for the contest and all the posters for the congrats.

                                      My account was already credited as well. At least it keeps Prick from blowing the money on Bushmills and whores.

                                      Plent of money to go around and share. Good luck to everyone.
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                                      • Netprofit
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-25-08
                                        • 3538

                                        #124
                                        The requirement to open a NEW account - I have an existing and actively used account with Bookmaker. Can I open a new account at Bookmaker for participation in these contest or do I have to use another sportsbook?

                                        Thanks for clarification!
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                                        • SBR Contests
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-04-08
                                          • 725

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Netprofit
                                          The requirement to open a NEW account - I have an existing and actively used account with Bookmaker. Can I open a new account at Bookmaker for participation in these contest or do I have to use another sportsbook?

                                          Thanks for clarification!
                                          No sir ... I don't think Bookmaker will allow you to create multiple accounts. You'll need to create a new account at one of the other sponsors. Good luck sir!
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                                          • Doug
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 6324

                                            #126
                                            Bump for Trytrytry
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                                            • Netprofit
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-25-08
                                              • 3538

                                              #127
                                              i have opened account at betjm, 5 dimes recently for 128 contest but have not funded the accounts. 1 of them could be used?
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                                              • SBR Contests
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-04-08
                                                • 725

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by Netprofit
                                                i have opened account at betjm, 5 dimes recently for 128 contest but have not funded the accounts. 1 of them could be used?
                                                PM SBR Contests with those account numbers. In the meantime, go ahead and signup at SBRcontests.com with those 128-man accounts and we'll get them in the next round of verifications. Good luck!
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                                                • 8550937
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 09-11-06
                                                  • 671

                                                  #129
                                                  im new at this beat the prick say if i would win 454.00. how does that work what does the credits mean i have 12? two sportsbooks are pending. and one is funded and verfied.what does that mean also. sorry about the questions first year playing.
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                                                  • Netprofit
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-25-08
                                                    • 3538

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by SBR Contests
                                                    PM SBR Contests with those account numbers. In the meantime, go ahead and signup at SBRcontests.com with those 128-man accounts and we'll get them in the next round of verifications. Good luck!
                                                    just 1 of those accounts are required or more than 1?
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                                                    • Netprofit
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-25-08
                                                      • 3538

                                                      #131
                                                      In trying to send PM to SBR Contests I get this message:
                                                      SBR Contests has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.
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                                                      • alta
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-08-06
                                                        • 1457

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by TLD
                                                        Certainly the changes constitute an improvement, but I have to say I still think they miss the point to a certain degree.

                                                        You’ve set up a situation where it’s impossible for many SBR posters to participate in Beat The Prick. (And that “impossible” part is key. Even though one of the new provisions specifies “SBR Forum posters choosing NOT to create and fund a new sportsbook account…,” that’s importantly misleading. It’s not a “choice,” at least not for some posters. That’s precisely what’s objectionable about it.) Ironically, what these posters are being told is “If you’ve followed our advice and played at the books we recommend most highly, if you’re already patronizing the books sponsoring this contest, then you’re not eligible.”

                                                        What has been done to correct this anomaly? Two things. One, “Well OK, we’ll let you participate in a lesser way in the contest for lesser prizes.” And two, “Just this once as a favor, we’ll let you in the contest—if you happen to fulfill a further retroactive condition that some of you do and some don’t—but after this one time exception you’re locked out of future contests.”

                                                        Like I say, that’s better than not having changed it at all, but I believe it falls well short of what’s called for.

                                                        People are being excluded who shouldn’t be excluded. Surely you can do better than “We’ll let some of them back in one time only, plus we’ll set up a junior version of the contest everyone can participate in.”

                                                        Amend the rules in a common sense way that lets these excluded people back in fully and permanently.
                                                        Excellent read!!!
                                                        Rule change enabling contestant to re-up with a pre-existing book they are happy with would be favorable to being coerced into signing up and funding a book they have no interest in!
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