SBRcontests.com – Beat The Prick Info

[Sean]

will the $5000 season ending prize still be awarded to those who fund a new account even if the free play posters finish in any or all of the top 3 slots?

Yessir

[AgainstAllOdds]

nvm

[Scratch]

thanks sean

[cobra_king]

Capitalist Pig,

This rule was made for those people that already had accounts at all the books sbr offered. If you could open a new account then you should have, and these amendments wouldnt apply to you.

That's not how i read it. I read it as being if you have been around here for over a year and participated in one of the previous two BTP contests, than you are automatically qualified into this years BTP contest regardless of whether you fund a new sponsered book or not. I read it as being even if you do have a book that you can fund, but don't, but are covered by the rules of the "grandfather" clause, than you need not fund a different book in order to play. The only criteria being that you have a Bookmaker/BetCris account during previous versions of BTP.

Can there be confirmation of this?

[Sean]

That's not how i read it. I read it as being if you have been around here for over a year and participated in one of the previous two BTP contests, than you are automatically qualified into this years BTP contest regardless of whether you fund a new sponsered book or not. I read it as being even if you do have a book that you can fund, but don't, but are covered by the rules of the "grandfather" clause, than you need not fund a different book in order to play. The only criteria being that you have a Bookmaker/BetCris account during previous versions of BTP.

Can there be confirmation of this?

Hi cobra ...

Yessir ... that's pretty much the deal. As it was and has never been our intention to exclude anyone, especially our longtime loyal posters, we've implemented these amendments to help ease the transition from previous years' rules to the new system this year.

The Grandfather Clause will indeed address past BTP-ers who may have already established accounts at all current sponsor books. But, it is also designed to help show our appreciation and loyalty to guys who have been loyal to SBR Forum over the past years.

Should you have any additional questions or concerns, feel free to PM me or shoot an email to sean "@" sbrmarketing.com (remove extra spaces and quotes) ...

Best,
Sean

[tblues2005]

Sean,

Are you going to add more books before long and I was being told by someone else that is the plan here?

[Sean]

tblues ...

We're still working on that ... will update as soon as we hear back from any of the additional books that have been invited to participate.

Thanks!

[Doug]

Question on the prize structure ?

5k weekly to Prick beaters, right ?

is this split equally by all that beat him ?

I seem to recall top 50(max) getting $100 ( by post count) or something like that, two years ago ?

[astro61200]

Question on the prize structure ?

5k weekly to Prick beaters, right ?

is this split equally by all that beat him ?

I seem to recall top 50(max) getting $100 ( by post count) or something like that, two years ago ?

I believe it is split based on how well you did.. so if the prick goes 2-2 for +1 and, lets say, keeping totals low to make it easier math wise, there are 30 +2, 20 +3, 5 +4 and 5 +5, that'd make each point worth $47.62 so it would pay out like this:

+2 - $47.62
+3 - $95.24
+4 - $142.86
+5 - $190.48

I think thats how it goes.. so really if you have a 4-0 week you want the prick to go 3-0-1 so that only about 10 or 15 people beat him, thus giving you around $500 or so

I didn't do it 2 years ago, but I know last year the top 10 received $100, assuming they beat the prick

[sportsfun]

so from grandfather clause(having played prior btp contest), you don't have to open account and if win any weekly prices it goes into bookmaker account, is that how that clause works? Sorry if still unclear.

[Augustus]

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[Sean]

Question on the prize structure ?

5k weekly to Prick beaters, right ?

is this split equally by all that beat him ?

I seem to recall top 50(max) getting $100 ( by post count) or something like that, two years ago ?

New prize structure this year Doug. Not sure if the math in astro's response just below your post is exactly right (it might be, but I'm still working my first pot of coffee this morning), but he's basically on the right track. Weekly prize pool will be split amongst all who beat the Prick and will be weighted fairly so the the higher scoring winners receive more than the lower scoring winners.

[Sean]

so from grandfather clause(having played prior btp contest), you don't have to open account and if win any weekly prices it goes into bookmaker account, is that how that clause works? Sorry if still unclear.

Hi sportsfun ...

When you register via the appropriate join/signup links on http://www.SBRcontests.com, either during the registration process or via the “My Accounts” link on SBR Contests, participants must enter the Bookmaker.com or BetCRIS.com account number associated with their previous years’ participation in Beat The Prick. All other contests terms and conditions apply, including the funding requirements indicated in the contest rules and information pages on SBR Contests.

Hope that helps clarify ... good luck!

[Santo]

Good news as I'd just checked and I did have accounts at all the current sponsors

[BrentCrude]

Grandfather clause= free play mode=winning gift bag only?

I have accounts at all the sponsors but fall into the grandfather clause group because I played the last 2 years and had a Bet Cris account that got transfered over.I still think it means that people in my situation will be able to play in the free mode only???The gift bags are great and aren't a shabby prize at all because I love the one I got at the bash but it's not like playing for the big moola of 5 k a week.

[Sean]

I have accounts at all the sponsors but fall into the grandfather clause group because I played the last 2 years and had a Bet Cris account that got transfered over.I still think it means that people in my situation will be able to play in the free mode only???The gift bags are great and aren't a shabby prize at all because I love the one I got at the bash but it's not like playing for the big moola of 5 k a week.

BrentCrude ...

Quite the contrary. It sounds to me like you are exactly one of the longtime posters that the Grandfather Clause is aimed at. Signup at SBRcontests.com with your CRIS/Bookmaker account that you used in the past for BTP ... slip 'em a minimum $100 deposit ... and play for the big money.

FYI ... the Grandfather Clause and Free Play are two different, mutually exclusive amendments to the contest ... both are designed to make this year's contest as inclusive as possible. Grandfather is for longtimers like yourself ... Free Play is for guys that don't want to fund, kick the tires a bit, play for bragging rights and smaller prizes, etc.

I'm happy to answer any questions or concerns ... either here or by PM.

Good luck!

[sportsfun]

Hi sportsfun ...

When you register via the appropriate join/signup links on http://www.SBRcontests.com, either during the registration process or via the “My Accounts” link on SBR Contests, participants must enter the Bookmaker.com or BetCRIS.com account number associated with their previous years’ participation in Beat The Prick. All other contests terms and conditions apply, including the funding requirements indicated in the contest rules and information pages on SBR Contests.

Hope that helps clarify ... good luck!

so let's say i don't have account at laspalmas yet. From grandfather clause can I deposit at bookmaker then and elect them for the contest? Not sure if only possible if have accounts at all shops.

[Doug]

I believe SBR is saying you are good to go for the full prize, with no deposit needed, if you played BTP before, provided you have a CRIS/BM account already.

[Sean]

I believe SBR is saying you are good to go for the full prize, with no deposit needed, if you played BTP before, provided you have a CRIS/BM account already.

No sir.

Grandfather Clause:
Longtime SBR Forum posters who have participated in SBR’s “Beat The Prick” football handicapping contest in each of the past 2 years (2006 & 2007) will be granted a one-time exemption from the new sportsbook account requirements related to this year’s (2008) “Beat The Prick” contest on SBRcontests.com.

Details:

• Participants must register via the appropriate join/signup links on http://www.SBRcontests.com

• During the registration process (or via the “My Accounts” link), participants must enter the Bookmaker.com or BetCRIS.com account number associated with their previous years’ participation in Beat The Prick.

• Participants must have participated in the Bookmaker/BetCRIS sponsored Beat The Prick contests in each of the two (2) previous years … 2006 & 2007 under the same username they are using for the 2008 edition of BTP.

• No additional bonuses related to SBR Contest signups will be applied to grandfathered accounts.

• All other contests terms and conditions apply.

CLARIFICATION: If you do not have a Bookmaker/BetCRIS account used for previous BTP contests, then the grandfather clause does not apply. Existing Bookmaker/BetCRIS accounts tied to previous BTP contests must be funded according to the contest rules.

A minimum deposit of $100 USD is required, subject to 5x rollover as per the contest rules.

Good luck!

[thezbar]

I've gone through the registation process via the grandfather clause.If I'm understanding this correctly all is needed is to fund the account and I"m good to go. Its an old Cris account that went to Bookmaker.

[GamblingMike]

I have four SBR Contest credits,does that mean I am eligible?

I have an old BookMaker account that I funded for $300 yesterday but only participated in last year's Beat The Prick Contest.

[Doug]

OK then, we must deposit $100 to BM then, correct ?

What is the deadline to be eligible for the 1st week ?

[ertl09]

so if I deposit $100 min on a new account, I'll be able to sign up for BTP and the september baseball contest also.

[TLD]

Certainly the changes constitute an improvement, but I have to say I still think they miss the point to a certain degree.

You’ve set up a situation where it’s impossible for many SBR posters to participate in Beat The Prick. (And that “impossible” part is key. Even though one of the new provisions specifies “SBR Forum posters choosing NOT to create and fund a new sportsbook account…,” that’s importantly misleading. It’s not a “choice,” at least not for some posters. That’s precisely what’s objectionable about it.) Ironically, what these posters are being told is “If you’ve followed our advice and played at the books we recommend most highly, if you’re already patronizing the books sponsoring this contest, then you’re not eligible.”

What has been done to correct this anomaly? Two things. One, “Well OK, we’ll let you participate in a lesser way in the contest for lesser prizes.” And two, “Just this once as a favor, we’ll let you in the contest—if you happen to fulfill a further retroactive condition that some of you do and some don’t—but after this one time exception you’re locked out of future contests.”

Like I say, that’s better than not having changed it at all, but I believe it falls well short of what’s called for.

People are being excluded who shouldn’t be excluded. Surely you can do better than “We’ll let some of them back in one time only, plus we’ll set up a junior version of the contest everyone can participate in.”

Amend the rules in a common sense way that lets these excluded people back in fully and permanently.

[pavyracer]

Sean,

I have deposited $200 to an existing account I have at DSI over the weekend. Am I eligible to play at BTP now? I have close to 6400 posts and doesn't show up once a year to milk the BTP contest.

Thanks.

[Doug]

So to be perfectly clear:

If you played before, have a BM account already, deposit $100 to BM, then you are in for the full BTP contest this year.

Correct ?

[Sean]

I've gone through the registation process via the grandfather clause.If I'm understanding this correctly all is needed is to fund the account and I"m good to go. Its an old Cris account that went to Bookmaker.

Hey Z ...

Yessir ... assuming all meets the Grandfather Clause as outlined, you should be set. We're not making anyone wait for confirmation in advance of playing ... we'll notify only those guys whose info doesn't check out or otherwise may have an error somewhere.

Good luck!

[Sean]

I have four SBR Contest credits,does that mean I am eligible?

I have an old BookMaker account that I funded for $300 yesterday but only participated in last year's Beat The Prick Contest.

Grandfather clause requirements state participation in each of the past two seasons ... not just last year.

The contest credits appear upon successful registration because we are not making guys wait to play ... giving the benefit of the doubt up front that info provided is correct. However, we will notify contestants when data are eligibility is NOT confirmed and participation (and credits) will be suspended until corrected.

Hope that helps.

Best of luck!

[Sean]

OK then, we must deposit $100 to BM then, correct ?

What is the deadline to be eligible for the 1st week ?

Regardless of how a contestant enters ... via standard registration or grandfather ... a minimum $100 deposit subject to 5x roll is required.

Contestants are not made to wait ... until verifications are complete, we will assume accurate data and eligibility requirements have been met. IF something doesn't check out, THEN we'll contact the contestant to straighten it out.

Best!

[Sean]

so if I deposit $100 min on a new account, I'll be able to sign up for BTP and the september baseball contest also.

Signup FIRST at SBRcontests.com and follow the procedures laid out on that site with regards to sponsor links, deposit requirements, etc.

All eligible contestants receive 4 contest credits making them eligible for a full year's worth of play on SBR Contests ... BTP, MLB, NBA, NCAA Brackets, etc.

Good luck!

[Sean]

Sean,

I have deposited $200 to an existing account I have at DSI over the weekend. Am I eligible to play at BTP now? I have close to 6400 posts and doesn't show up once a year to milk the BTP contest.

Thanks.

As per the rules set forth on SBR Contests, preexisting accounts do not qualify unless the contestant falls under this year's grandfather clause exemption.

[Sean]

So to be perfectly clear:

If you played before, have a BM account already, deposit $100 to BM, then you are in for the full BTP contest this year.

Correct ?

If you have played in each of the past two BTPs

[losturmarbles]

hi sean,

i signed up yesterday and received my 4 contest credits,
today after making picks in the mlb contest, it now says i have 3 credits.

i'm assuming this is a mistake?

thanks

[Doug]

If you have played in each of the past two BTPs

Yes, I played both years, so I should be all set once I make my deposit in the next few days.

[Sean]

hi sean,

i signed up yesterday and received my 4 contest credits,
today after making picks in the mlb contest, it now says i have 3 credits.

i'm assuming this is a mistake?

thanks

Not really a mistake ...each contest credit is good for participation in one contest. A credit is deducted as soon as a contestant initiates participation in a given contest.

HOWEVER, because of the late start in MLB this year, we will be restore any credits deducted for play in that contest. No sweat ... it will be back in your account soon.